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Presidential Campaign; Interview with the Man Who Parachuted Into 1986 Mets World Series Game. Aired 3:30-4p ET

Aired October 30, 2015 - 15:30   ET

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[15:30:00] DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: So there was just to sort of get the context, a lot of talk about Paul Ryan at the beginning of this presidential cycle whether he should jump in as he made the decision not to. But the idea and the thought was that he was kind of thinking ahead that he would stay in Congress, he would stay as the ways and means chairman which is the tax writing committee, try to come up with some broad tax reform. He's a young guy. He's almost 46 or 45. And then maybe leave and then ultimately run for president. But he's pretty much conceding that that's not in the cards for him anymore. So which is, you know, kind of proof that you never know what's going to happen in politics, you know, life, but especially politics.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN HOST: That whole life curveball, catholic guilt thing, you know.

Dana Bash, thank you so much. We can't wait to watch more of the interview. You are in for Jake Tapper this weekend. So do not miss Dana Bash hosting "STATE OF THE UNION" Sunday morning 9:00 a.m. eastern right here on CNN.

Coming up next, guess who I get to talk to in person. The inside man himself goes INSIDE POLITICS. Documentarian, filmmaker, Morgan Spurlock turning his focus to the republican debate this week, fact checking what the candidates have to say, what he found, coming up.

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[15:35:36] BALDWIN: Morgan Spurlock called it while watching Wednesday night's Republican debate. He called a lot of bull.

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MORGAN SPURLOCK, CNN HOST, INSIDE MAN: Are you sick and tired of the same old lies, misinformation and general malarkey in the presidential debates? Ever wish you could call the candidates out on their bull? Well, now you can. Welcome to call bull, the best way to take your anger and literally call bull on the presidential candidates in all the hot air they spew during the debates.

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BALDWIN: So what you saw there, this is the start of this interactive breakdown of the half-truths lobbied on stage the other night. So with me now is the man himself, Morgan Spurlock, the documentary filmmaker and host of CNN's "INSIDE MAN."

So awesome to see you. We never talk politics. I love that you took this on.

SPURLOCK: Thanks.

BALDWIN: By the way, we are going to get this. The Republicans is getting to the Democrats next. You fact checked every single candidate. Can you tell me this took a lot of effort and a team? Why did you want to do this?

SPURLOCK: Well, after the last debate, we said there's got to be a great way to get people continue talking about the debate and kind of bring some accountability to what people were actually talking about. And so, we teamed up with these brilliant guys from technology and media company called (INAUDIBLE) and with my company Warrior Poets, we said let's just break down the debate. Let's tell people what the truths are and what isn't true and give people a chance to actually call BS.

BALDWIN: OK. So, you did this with every candidate from Carson and his connections to the businessman attack, to Chris Christie on crime rates. But let me play this clip. This is Trump on his so-called self-funded campaign. Roll it.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am the only person in either campaign that is self-funding. I'm putting up 100 percent of my own money. And right now, I will be putting up a tremendous -- so far put up less than anybody and have the best results. Wouldn't that be nice?

SPURLOCK: Nope, that's (bleep). By no stretch of the imagination is his campaign 10 percent self-funded. Unless the 73,942 unsolicited donors have been somehow absorbed into Trump's body. In fact, in this quarter alone, almost $3.9 million have been raised by these un- Donalds. But hey, if you put your name on everything, maybe you actually think they are a part of your person too.

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BALDWIN: She wants some Trump. We had her on the show just recently. He's 100 percent correct at all times.

SPURLOCK: That's right.

BALDWIN: So it is interesting with Trump because a lot of people have had a really tough time fact checking him because he makes a lot of claims (INAUDIBLE) speak in specific. Did you have a tough time?

SPURLOCK: I think that luckily we had a whole team of people that we were chasing down all these facts. And so, we didn't have as hard a time as you think. And luckily, there was a lot of BS to choose from. So, I think that - yes, we got to pick on the letter.

BALDWIN: OK. It wasn't all BS.

SPURLOCK: It was not, no.

BALDWIN: You called no bull on Marco Rubio and his claim that John Kerry and Barack Obama missed 60 percent of votes while running for president. Overall, who would you say was the least BS?

SPURLOCK: I would say during this debate that Rubio was probably the least BS. I think he came out with the most to prove and he was the one where I think really kind of stood up and came out like a champ. I think our friend, Mr. Carson, he was probably the greatest BS slinger of that debate.

BALDWIN: OK.

SPURLOCK: Yes.

BALDWIN: OK. And it isn't. And in these candidates on both sides, they come out and they are confident and, you know, but you found them malarkey, to quote you. So, you will be doing this next for the Democrats.

SPURLOCK: That's right. Well, I think the next debate -- the next one is another Republican debate and four days later is the Democratic. So we are going to be doing both of those.

BALDWIN: What do you anticipate with your BS meter?

SPURLOCK: It's politics. There's bound to be a lot. So, it's going to be great.

BALDWIN: Morgan Spurlock, thank you so much for coming in. It is so nice to see you. As always, make sure you watch the next season, "INSIDE MAN." Just finish shooting the season.

SPURLOCK: We just finished.

BALDWIN: Congratulations, January here on CNN.

Coming up, are you a baseball guy?

SPURLOCK: I am.

BALDWIN: Here we go. World Series tonight in New York City. The last time the Mets won was the 1986 people. We will dip into the archives. We are going to talk to a guy who pulled off the most notorious stunt in the history of New York City in baseball. You hear the chanting? Royals not liking you guys at all. We're going to talk to this guy, coming up.

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[15:44:22] BALDWIN: Really quickly, I want to show you some live pictures here. This is Atlanta. This is Clark Lane (ph) University there. And Hillary Clinton, she is speaking to a crowd. This is something she mentioned after the Las Vegas debate about really working with the African-American community. That is precisely what she's talking about.

A little bit of the context here, there are some Black Lives Matter protesters there in this space and they are chanting. They are trying to interrupt her. And at the same time, the other room is chanting Hillary. We're watching and waiting for her to answer some of the questions in the crowd. Speaking at this, and so we'll obviously closely monitor that. But that's what's happening in Atlanta.

Meantime, what's happening here in New York, baseball fans you can just feel it walking around the city in the air, World Series resumes tonight. It's game three, but it's game one inside New York City field. The Mets are coming home. They are down 2-0. No doubt they will need their diehard fans to cheer them on to a victory. And that is precisely what one daredevil fan did back in 1986. Look at this picture. The World Series, you had New York versus Boston. Game 6, a packed stadium. Here comes party crasher, you like that? 37-year-old Mike Sergio on a parachute sky diving into the field during the first inning. The banner on the parachute read let's go Mets. His stunt caught on national television. Stunt also landed him in jail for 21 days. But let me add the Mets won the series. The last time they ever took home a championship title.

Mike Sergio said he did it to show fan support. He is shaking his head. I don't know if he doesn't believes that he did it back in the day. But I mean, you know, they won the title. They won the series. Obviously, you were a hero.

MIKE SERGIO, PARACHUTED INTO 1986 METS WORLD SERIES GAME: I just made a jump. And actually I did it to support the guys. It was so much fun doing it. It was the Wednesday before I made the jump in Boston, I released a bunch of balloons like out of the bleachers and pushed it out and had a little sign like Go --.

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SERGIO: When I saw that, said watch this it.

BALDWIN: It was because of Boston and the balloons.

SERGIO: I said, watch this. And one of my great joys with this whole thing is after I made the jump a New York sports writer wrote that in Boston they send balloons. In New York we send human sacrifices.

BALDWIN: I heard that about you.

So you do this, this is a no-no, by the way. So they won. Had they not, you would have been kicked out of the city forever.

SERGIO: I would have been living in Canada on a farm and looked at me on a farm, to wouldn't make it. It just wouldn't work out.

BALDWIN: All right, OK. So you land, what happened to you? You're dragging your parachute. You get into trouble. You go to court. I understand the D.A. was like really tough on you. What did the judge say?

SERGIO: Well, the judge, the local judge, he said that he was at the game last night. He was at the game last night.

BALDWIN: When you parachuted in.

SERGIO: Yes. So this is - I go. They take me from the stadium to the precinct there where my brother was actually a police officer there. And so all of the police (INAUDIBLE). We had like a signing fest going on. They put me in the sergeant's office. I watched the game end and the next morning they took me to the courthouse and the judge said, you know, to the D.A. I was more concerned with the planes flying over, not Mr. Sergio. Let him go. They gave me 500 hours of community service in the central park zoo. And I'm from New York. I had had never seen a sheep in my life and they are actually very cute little folks.

BALDWIN: No kidding.

SERGIO: Yes.

BALDWIN: Twenty one days.

SERGIO: That's the federal.

BALDWIN: That's the federal.

SERGIO: Yes. Federal was not having fun.

BALDWIN: You did your time. So are you going tonight? Are you going one on the next couple of nights?

SERGIO: Actually, I have this just this personal thing that I want to go desperately to the games, but I want the Mets to just say it's OK for me to come there. I don't want to just walk in and be a little side show or something like that and maybe distract from the guys. This really is about the Mets winning another World Series, which is phenomenal. My heart longs for it. But I also, I want to be cautious about what I do at this point. I don't want it to look like I'm just going in there for whatever reason, you know. But if they invite me, I would love to go. But I can watch them on TV. They will be just fine. They are phenomenal. They are so the spirit of the 1986 team. They are just --

BALDWIN: You can feel it walking around the city. And I'm sure Kansas City did pretty well recently.

SERGIO: But they are two down on the road. They are coming back.

BALDWIN: Can you imagine how that stadium is going to feel tonight? I just love (INAUDIBLE), grown up in Atlanta. I was, you know, Braves. You were going to your grave without giving up the name of the pilot from the plane from which you jump.

SERGIO: At this point, 29 years later, unless the pilot if there was a pilot says to me it's OK, I'll take it with me.

BALDWIN: All right, Mike Sergio.

SERGIO: Thank you.

BALDWIN: Pleasure. Great pictures. What a memory for a lifetime.

Coming up here on CNN, we have much more on our breaking news. The U.S. troops about to send ground Special Forces here on the ground to Syria. What does that mean? Where are they going here in terms of the fight against ISIS? But first, Anthony Bourdain joins me live on the set next. And we'll ask him about one of his biggest regrets from his world travels coming up in this next season, "PARTS UNKNOWN." Do not miss this.

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[15:54:20] BALDWIN: All right. One of favorite people I like to talk to I get to talk to here, Anthony Bourdain, host of "PARTS UNKNOWN" here on CNN. And it is part of a series - we are going to get him to talk about something pretty painful. He laughs and he shutters, but it is true. It is a tattoo. He allowed as he will about - he will tell us the story. He allowed two, to quote him, "drunk guys." Fair assessment, drunk guys. (INAUDIBLE) his chest with clubs and sharp needles, more like nails, yes?

ANTHONY BOURDAIN, CNN HOST, PARTS UNKNOWN: Yes. It felt like it.

BALDWIN: OK. Drinking was involved. Watch.

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BOURDAIN: (INAUDIBLE). I came here ten years ago, heartbroken, depressed, sort of a weird crossroads of my life. I went up river. Hang out with some very nice people at a long house. And I had myself quite an experience. And I promise those people I would be back for the harvest festival. It took me ten years to do it but I came back. Here I am (INAUDIBLE).

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[15:55:49] BALDWIN: Anthony Bourdain, I'm watching some of our crew people, and they were doing this, as I'm sure people are watching, eating their lunch, doing this as well. That was the least of it, by the way. Because I was sitting in on Stephen Colbert, the "Late Show" the other night when they played, detailed.

BOURDAIN: Yes.

BALDWIN: Drilling of your chest. We'll spare you if you're eating your turkey sandwich right now. Let me start with, why?

BOURDAIN: Look, I have a lot of tattoos, one more is not going to making me prettier, or younger, or more relevant or anything else. I see it like a possession of a very old car. It has got a lot of dents in it. One more dent isn't really going to matter. But I promised these people. I visited this group of Ivan, the former head-hunters living in (INAUDIBLE). Ten years ago invited me to come back for their rice harvest festival and tattooing is very important part of the culture. And I said, I'll come back and I want a hand-tapped tattoo.

BALDWIN: Hand-tapped.

BOURDAIN: It is old school - that's how they get all of theirs. How bad can it be? The chest, there is meat or muscle there? It is just skin. How many nerves can be there? I had a lot of tattoos, they never really hurt. Answer, it hurt a lot. Two hours of hammering away. They were not in the best shape, because it's three solid days of karaoke and drinking rice whiskey. So they were a little unsteady. And I just kept looking up at the camera crew, you know, hanging on. I figure, I could take another ten seconds before I start weeping and crying. And at one point, I asked if they started to fill in the dark part. And the camera guys like, dude, they're still working on the outline. You got another hour to go. I'm --

BALDWIN: But it's done.

BOURDAIN: It's done.

BALDWIN: It's done.

BOURDAIN: Yes.

BALDWIN: Tattoos aside.

BOURDAIN: Yes.

BALDWIN: What was Borneo like?

BOURDAIN: Borneo is really an amazing place. This particular ethnic group are fascinating. They believe in something called, I hope I get this, Jalabai think it is. Basically, it is a ritual of leaving your tribe to go out and gather experience. So all the young people are encouraged to leave, go elsewhere, learn things, get tattoos around the world, and return, and share that information. Which I think is a, a laudable ambition I can relate to.

Malaysia, of which Borneo a part, some of the best food in the world. I have a particular love and affection for their -- their sort of soups and noodles and spicy China-straight-style dishes. So it is very happy place for me. A country I spent a lot of time, have some friends. Have some emotional connections. So this was a return to a place I really care about.

BALDWIN: OK. That's awesome. And now too, from wild and crazy places like Borneo to Charleston, South Carolina. Awesome shrimp and grits, made so many different ways. Growing up on the south. I mean, I love Charleston so much. But one of your biggest takeaways was the waffle house?

BOURDAIN: You know, I've been to Borneo twice, and yet I've never in all of my life been to this magical, exotic wonderland, the waffle house!

BALDWIN: 2:00 in the afternoon. 2:00 in the morning. Fun all the same. BOURDAIN: Apparently no matter how badly behaved you are, they're

still nice to you.

BALDWIN: Smothered and covered, baby.

BOURDAIN: I ate everything on the menu. I did it right. I went late at night, and I went with a great chef friend. But Charleston is, amazing as the waffle house is, Charleston is not just an awesome place with a lot of great restaurants and a lot of great food, but it's a really important place in America astronomy right now. A lot is going on. There are in many places the spear point of new direction in American cuisine.

BALDWIN: Cuisine, great live music, the history, palmetto trees, it is beautiful.

Anthony Bourdain, thank you so much. I appreciate it. New respect with the tattoo thing, man. New respect.

Make sure you watch his show, his return to Borneo, this Sunday, 9:00 here on CNN. "PARTS UNKNOWN." Do not miss it.

And that does it for me on this Friday afternoon. I'm Brooke Baldwin here in New York. Thank you so much for being with me. Have a wonderful weekend. But don't move. "The LEAD" is next. Jim Sciutto sitting in today for Jake Tapper.

JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Thank you, Brooke Baldwin. Boots on the ground. "The LEAD" starts right now.