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U.S., U.K. Officials Say Bomb Downed Metrojet Flight 9268; Marco Rubio Releases Credit Card Statements; Controversy Surrounds NFL's Greg Hardy After Newly Released Photos; Sharm el-Sheikh Airport Ramps Up Security; Protesters Outside NBC Studios as Trump Hosts "SNL"; Glen Campbell's I'll Be Me; Kathy Engelbert as CEO of Deloitte. Aired 7-9p ET

Aired November 07, 2015 - 19:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

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[19:00:19] POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: Top of the hour. I'm Poppy Harlow live with you this Saturday evening from New York.

We now know that a sudden noise was heard on the black box recording just before that Russian plane broke apart in the sky.

Egypt says bad weather is slowing down their investigation, and it is too soon to know exactly what brought the plane down.

U.S. and British officials have suggested a bomb may have downed it, killing all 224 people on board.

American officials keeping a very close eye on the investigation as ramping screen up -- as screenings ramps at some international airports.

This evening our Barbara Starr sat down for an exclusive one-on-one interview with Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson.

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Poppy, here at the Reagan Presidential Library, an all-day meeting of military intelligence and national security officials.

I caught up with the secretary of homeland security, Jeh Johnson, to ask him why the U.S. government has taken these additional aviation security measures.

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JEH JOHNSON, HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY: Barbara, the investigation of the crash of Metrojet 9268 is still under way. Not all the facts have come in.

As the president said, we cannot at this point rule out the possibility of something nefarious at the same time we've a group out there, ISIL that is claiming responsibility for this.

So in light of the current circumstances, what Admiral Neffenger and I determined we should do is take certain precautionary interim enhancements and measures to aviation security at certain foreign airports that are what we call last point of departure airports with direct flights into the United States.

We announced that, we're going to be enhancing screening of things brought on to aircraft. We're going to be doing examinations and assessments of certain last point of departure airports overseas. And we're continuing to offer our assistance into the investigation.

STARR: What are your concerns about what you see out there about the ability of ISIS to potentially get a bomb on a plane? Whether it's headed for the U.S. or not but to get a bomb on a plane?

JOHNSON: Well, this is why we determined to take precautionary interim steps while this investigation is still ongoing.

ISIL is out there now, active in a lot of different areas. And so while this investigation is pending and because we have this group claiming responsibility, we believe it is significant to do these things on an interim basis. And to tell the public that we have done this.

We want the public to know that our aviation security officials are very much focused on this. We're continually evaluating whether more or less is necessary. And as part of that continuous evaluation, we announced, what we announced yesterday.

STARR: What do you want the American flying public to know right now? How concerned should they be if they're flying overseas or flying back into the United States? What do you want people to know about all of this?

JOHNSON: I want people to know that their aviation security officials working on their behalf are continually evaluating threats, potential threats and that we make adjustments all the time based on what we see, based on the potential for something based on ongoing investigations.

And so what I directed and what I announced is very much part of that.

STARR: Are you satisfied right now, last question, that it's right now you have a handle on this current situation?

JOHNSON: Well, I'm very satisfied that we are keeping close tabs on this, that the steps we announced yesterday are the appropriate steps given that the investigation is still ongoing. They are of an interim precautionary nature. I want to continue to stress that.

And we're evaluating whether more is necessary. This process is not stopped, it does not go to sleep, it does not take a break on weekends. It is something we do continuously.

And given the ongoing investigation, we are particularly focused on what happened, understanding what happened, and what more we can do in that region.

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[19:05:01] STARR: Here at the Reagan Library, I've talked to a number of the top officials here today. And they tell me there is growing certainty in government circles that may well have been a bomb that brought down the Russian airliner.

They are looking at the chatter before the incident and perhaps even more interesting, chatter after the incident. They believe that that chatter from ISIS in Sinai to ISIS back in Syria may have had some very specific references about the airliner, including the possibility there was some sort of timing device attached to a bomb on the plane.

Still, the investigation continues. Poppy?

HARLOW: Barbara, thank you very much for your reporting, that exclusive interview with Jeh Johnson.

Meantime, Republican presidential hopeful Marco Rubio today, releasing more of his credit card statements showing 22 months of charges he made on a GOP party charge card while serving in the Florida state legislature.

He said whenever he made any personal charges on that card, he paid for them himself. But his critics said he shouldn't have made personal charges on the card at all.

Earlier this week, CNN Dana Bash asked about those statements.

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DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: When are you going to release the credit card information?

SEN. MARCO RUBIO, (R-FL) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It will be soon. I don't know the exact date. But we're -- so these are old documents so they take time to assemble. And I have no problem with that.

The bottom line, people need to understand that this is an American express card. If there were personal expenses on there, I paid them directly to American express at the time. If they were political -- the Republican Party paid them.

BASH: Just one last question. You obviously knew this was going to potentially be an issue, especially as you rise in the polls because this is an issue your senate race.

So why wait -- what0 five, six years to release it? Why not get it out of the way?

RUBIO: Because -- there is no wrongdoing here. Ultimately these are private document to the party that are leaks. That's why the first ones are ever made public.

But here is the bottom line, I wrote extensively about this n book, and there's no secret of the expenses, whatever expenses...

BASH: I know no secret which is why I didn't get out for you.

RUBIO: No, that the whatever expenses the party pay for are listed in the Department of Election disclosures. So the expenses were not secret.

I have no problem releasing it because so we have nothing to occult here. But ultimately it's very simple and very straightforward.

I had an American express card secured with my personal credit. If they were personal expenses, I pay them directly to American Express. If they were political or Republican party paid for them. And that's what you'll see on the records in the next few weeks here.

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HARLOW: And now as records have been released from 2005 to 2008.

CNN Investigative Correspondent Chris Frates on the story for us this evening. Chris?

CHRIS FRATES, CNN INVESTIGATOR: Hey, good evening Poppy.

Marco Rubio has come under intense fire for charging personal offenses to a Florida Republican Party, American express card when he was in the state legislative leadership in Tallahassee.

And just a few hours ago, Rubio's presidential campaign issued 22 months previously unreleased American express statements detailing his spending.

The campaign said that Rubio had the card about four years. He charged about $180,000 during that time, of which 22,000 were personal charges.

Now, Rubio has always insisted for years that he paid for all of those personal charges himself. The newly released statements covered the time between January 2005 and October2006 where Rubio charged about $65,000 total of which about $7,000 was personal.

Those personal charges included about $1,800 for a hotel and a car rental when Rubio extended a political trip to Las Vegas for personal reasons. He has family and relatives that live in the area.

He also spent $3,800 on pavers when, an expense he referenced in his 2012 autobiography when he said he pulled out the wrong card to pay for that.

Rubio also spent about 600 bucks at an auto dealership own by one of his top political donors, a gentleman by the name of Norman Braman.

In all three cases, Poppy, Rubio said he paid American express for the charges. But even with the release of the AmEx statements, CNN could not independently verify which charges were personal and which were business related.

And Poppy, it's not just the AmEx spending that has raised eyebrows on the campaign trial. Rubio faced foreclosure on a home he co-owned in Tallahassee. He cashed out $70,000 in retirement savings that likely cost him a bundle in taxes and penalties. And he also splurged on $80,000 boat.

So critics say those are not the savviest financial decisions. Poppy?

HARLOW: Chris Frates in Washington for us tonight. Chris, thank you.

Also coming up next, the NFL and domestic abuse, tonight the pictures show a horrifying story of a woman battered and bruised by her boyfriend, the NFL player Greg Hardy, bringing the abuse case from last year back into the spotlight and the national discussion.

[19:10:58] Up next, one of the team's biggest fans weighs in.

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HARLOW: Dallas Cowboys defensive end Greg Hardy back at the center of an abuse scandal.

Last night Deadspin published pictures showing his ex-girlfriend Nicole Holder bruised and battered from an attack in May of 2014.

CNN has been unable to independently verify the photos of the abuse.

Hardy, was tried and he was found guilty in this abuse case that was after his then girlfriend testified that he dragged her by her hair into the bathroom, slammed her head against the wall and then chocked her.

Hardy, who was with the Carolina Panthers of the time applead for a jury trial. His ex-girlfriend did not testify the second time so the case was dismissed.

Hardy's punishment a 10 game suspension it was appealed by the union. The suspension was reduced to just four games. He is now back on the field.

With me now from Dallas, CNN Political Commentator Ben Ferguson, who is also a huge Cowboy fan.

Ben sometimes pictures bring reality even more, they may get more real for a lot of people. And when they see it, they can't believe it even when we read about it months and months ago.

Should Hardy still be in the NFL?

BEN FERGUSON, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: No, he shouldn't and the NFL should know better.

We've had this, we've had Ray Rice. But let's clear. I don't blame Roger Goodell because Roger Goodell is nothing but a puppet for the owners of the teams. And it seems that the owners have a back room decision deal that we will not criticize other players on the other teams when they get busted for beating their wives or beating their fiancees or beating their girlfriends as long as when my guys on my team get caught, you don't say a word at all.

[19:15:07] Goodell has no power. The owners are the ones that employ him. Why does he still have a job? It is very clear. Because of guys like Jerry Jones. These owners who say I'll put winning above the domestic abuse and violence of women.

HARLOW: Let's listen. It's important you bring up Jerry Jones, the famed owner of the Cowboys. He sat down for an interview on HBO's "Real sports." And it aired in September and here's part of what he said.

FERGUSON: Yeah.

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JERRY JONES, DALLAS COWBOYS OWNER: We really did our homework and our investigations. And the facts are that he was not convicted.

BRYANT GUMBEL, HBO "REAL SPORT": He wasn't convicted because the girlfriend didn't show up after he was convicted the first time.

JONES: You could say that. But he might not have been convicted because he didn't do it.

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FERGUSON: Let me say this...

HARLOW: Do you buy that?

FERGUSON: No. I don't buy it. Jerry Jones doesn't buy it either. This is nothing but a sick man, who cares more about winning than he does if a woman gets killed by one of his players. All he cares about is -- well, we got out of it. How did Greg Hardy get out this? Let's be clear, he got out of it because we know there some sort of settlement. It's called a payoff to someone that you're hurt and abuse. But the NFL, when they said after Ray Rice -- Roger Goodell said he learn his lesson and then he got it wrong but he was going to get right. No, he didn't.

And you want to know what? It's because the owner said, we don't care if out players beat the living crap out of women as long as that you can cover up or we don't find out in the picture or we don't get the view. We want them playing on Sunday if they're good. And I'm promise you this, at some point people and fans and women hurt specially have got to standup to these owners because again Goodell is nothing but a puppet for this owners. And he needs demand that this isn't going to continue to happen.

HARLOW: Are you Ben. I mean, you're a huge Cowboy fan. Are you going to...

FERGUSON: Huge. I'm not going to games.

HARLOW: Stop going to the games, are you going to stop watching on T.V.? FERGUSON: No, I'm not going...

HARLOW: Are you going to stop getting helping them get these record ratings?

FERGUSON: I'll say this. I have not gone to one of the Cowboy games since the first one of this season. I'm not going to any other of the games. I said that on my show this year. And the reason why and I'm not going to buy any paraphernalia. And haven't been watching the Cowboy's games because I cannot seat back and watch Jerry Jones and these other owners because it's not just Jerry Jones it's all the other owners that cover this stuff up and all the other owners that have no accountability for players beating girlfriends and wives in this brutal way.

How do standby and let them suit up and pay their millions on Sunday's. And I've said it before I'll say it again. We have to hold them accountable.

HARLOW: Let me ask you this finally Ben. I am a huge football fan.

FERGUSON: Yeah.

HARLOW: I like watching a game. I have always been a fan. And this is not about the majority of players, right. Because the majority of players don't do this, but when are we going to hear from the other players and the other owners talking about those they committed violence against women?

FERGUSON: Well, you got a lot of player, former players that have talked out. But if you're in a team and you're employers Jerry Jones. You're going to step out and say that Greg Hardy, he got to share locker room with, that would be very easily could come after you on the slide line or in the locker room. Are you're going to speak out against him while you're under a contract kind of make the money that you can make in a short period of time in the NFL.

Look, the average play only has a couple of seasons, that's the average. So, are you going to risk all of that? Most players are going to say, look, they deal with person with issues. I show up, I work out, I'm a good person. I'm not going to beat my wife or girlfriend. I do think however, that the player shouldn't look at Greg Hardy as the leader on their team as some of them has stated. And also you look at Jerry Jones. He said Greg Hardy is a leader.

And let me also -- let me say this to. Greg Hardy is from my home town. He grew up Millington, I was in Memphis. He when to my alma mater old myth (ph), I when to old myth -- this is a guy that I should be routing for and trilled about and excited about playing in Dallas. And I cannot stand him being on the rooster. And the NFL should have done more, but they don't care about abuse against women. It's obvious from the pictures. It's obvious from Ray Rice. It's obvious from only a four game suspension and more importantly it's obvious because they pay these guys millions of dollars after they beat someone, a woman to come and be a part of their team and they give him a press conference and hug and high five and say, "Go win some football games because I'm going to get paid. That's all Jerry Jones cares about.

HARLOW: Ben Ferguson, important discussion. Thank you.

FERGUSON: Thanks.

HARLOW: Ahead the latest on the down Russian plane. Was it a terror attack that killed 224 people?

[19:19:43] The airport is that plane took off from now setting up security. But is it enough? We will take you inside the Sharm el- Sheikh Airport next.

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HARLOW: (INAUDIBLE) erupted moments before that Russian Jet broke a part last week in the sky killing all 224 people onboard that is according to crash. Investigators today, they also state they see no sign of mechanical failure. Egypt flee (ph) investigators says all scenarios also on the table as they investigate, but official at the airport where that -- plane took off from are stepping up security.

CNN Erin McLaughlin is there, she take this behind the scene the Sharm el-Sheikh Airport.

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ERIN MCLAUGLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: CNN was given a tour of the interval of the Sharm el-Sheikh International Airport. At here that we see part of the luggage screening process. One by one the bags come down ready to be scanned.

All bags are firsts x-rays. If they see something they think is suspicious, that's when they send to this machine for more scan.

In a nearby room a team of Egyptian police analyze the results. Its part of the process that British authority say may have been manipulated, leading to the possible bombing of MetroJet Flight 9268. The BBC reports British intelligence believe the bomb was place in the lower half of the planes fuselage, the place where luggage is stored during the flight.

Now suspicion is following on workers at the airport. The passenger boarding flight to the U.K. are no longer allow to check luggage in. Their bags are being flown on separate planes.

[19:25:00] British authorities say it's a decision taken after they survey the airport. They say they're more measures to come.

YASSER JAHINE, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, SHARM EL-SHEIKH AIRPORT: We are human to. We have to do our best to save life.

MCLAUGLIN: We meet the Deputy Director of airport Yasser Jahine. He point today after the plane crash. He said he want to speak to the specific to the investigation but insist the airport is safe. He's worried about the impact on Egypt tourism industry. He believes go to (ph) official are at the airport more to swage people's fear and to change security procedures.

JAHINE: They feel that they're responsible with the family then people. They didn't feel comfortable because the media or public opinion brought through this.

MCLAUGLIN: And you think that they're here responding to media pressure?

JAHINE: This is my point of view.

MCLAUGLIN: But British authority say there will be new measures. They refuse to get our details for security, after all was good is additional security. It's everyone knows about it.

Erin McLaughlin, CNN Sharm el-Sheikh International Airport.

HARLOW: Erin, thank you very much. And Egyptian official say, it's too soon to know exactly who brought down that Russian plane. They do reiterate all scenarios are on the table. We will bring you more as soon as we know on that front. But I do want to talk about what we know and what appoints to with former CIA Operative Bob Baer.

I mean, Bob first thing first. You got a lot of countries involve in this investigation. You've got Egypt taken the lead and you told me, you don't trust Egypt investigation. So where that leaves us?

BOB BAER, FRM. CIA OPERATIVE: Well, Poppy what we have at the Russians, they've gone to the extent of stranding 80,000 Russian citizens in Egypt. So the Russians must be convinced to this point. They're afraid that another plane going to be hit. And when do they take him out they're probably not going to go with their luggage. I would imagine, you know, the vote is against Egypt. You know, at the end of the day it maybe mechanical but it sure doesn't look like it now.

I mean, they're improving security at the airport. You've got people on the ground. You got French investigators speaking to the press that it was clearly an explosion. They hear on the block box. Yeah, you can do a spectacular analyst on this but, you know. I think the vote in at this point that plane was brought down by a bomb.

HARLOW: So if it was ISIS which is claiming responsibility or the ISIS offshoot in Sinai which was previously known as Ansar Bait Al-Maqdis, right? The pledge a legion ISIS last year, if it was them bomb.

They haven't been able to pull off an airplane attack like this before. Do we know anything intelligent wise them getting better at this bomb making and smuggling?

BAER: Well, Poppy what we know is a lot of these people who know how to do this. Abraham, Assyrian, Yemen. He maybe with al-Qaeda But we don't know that he hasn't gone over the Islamic State. A lot of al- Qaeda members are. In 2003 Iraqi facilities are overrun and a lot of those people that knew how to make these bombs and get them through security have made very well be with the Islamic state. They're Iraqi the same thing with Syria. The technology is really not that difficult getting through airports security. And then of course it comes down to if airport worker put it own, that's a fairly easy thing to do. You could just do that with a very simple timer or if there are metric switch.

And, you know, how do you secure an airport, how do you check every worker in an airport. It's a herculean task to run every worker through metal detector, check their bags and the rest of it. And I assure you that wasn't being done at Sharm el-Sheikh before this attack.

HARLOW: Bob Baer, thank you very much for the analysis. Very scary reality. Thank you Bob.

BAER: Thanks.

HARLOW: Coming up next, switching gears in a major way. Live from New York. Donald Trump does "SNL" with plenty of protesters waiting for him to arrive. Polo Sandoval in the middle of it all. Hi, Polo.

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Poppy that's right, plenty of protesters on the streets of Manhattan. You see them behind me. They're calling on NBC to dump Trump. That's after the break a bit (inaudible) time.

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[19:32:33] HARLOW: Not everyone happy that Donald Trump is hosting "Saturday Night Live" tonight. Protesters outside of 30 Rock say they will disrupt the show, furious over comments from Donald Trump about undocumented Mexican immigrants. One Latino activist group has offered $5,000 to encourage hecklers to interrupt the live program and called Trump a racist.

Live outside of NBC's "30 Rock," CNN's Polo Sandoval. Paolo, I mean, lots and lots, perhaps hundreds of protesters out there. In less than an hour you got the dress rehearsal with Donald Trump. What are the people saying?

SANDOVAL: I tell you what, Poppy, organizers here saying that there is at least 300 people here, according to their estimates. These are individuals that actually came here from Trump Tower. Many of them marching here so on Saturday night. You typically see large crowds. They go inside to either witness a dress rehearsal or the actual taping of this New York staple.

Tonight though a crowd of a different kind as people continue to gather, united in a single voice. Many of them down to the very hour protesting Donald Tryump's. They want NBC to dump Trump. In fact, that's displayed all over their signs. Again, you see behind me, this is a crowd that continues to grow. It is not just people, members of the Latino community but really from all over on the world, assembled in this area here, to try to have their voices heard.

What is interesting though if you ask them, Poppy, what they expect tonight, some of them told me that they do expect people to tune in. The reality is that Donald Trump comes with ratings. That is some of what NBC wants. They are walking a fine line tonight in really getting a piece of that Trump high but at the same time not alienating the Latino community.

HARLOW: I mean, (INAUDIBLE) of the protesters is successful, sort of standing up and say racist during the live show?

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SANDOVAL: Well, they do say even the show goes on and (INAUDIBLE) producers hope that it will, they say that they still consider this a success because people hear what they have to say. They are right outside the building where Donald Trump is now getting ready. In fact, he took to twitter just a few moments ago announcing that he is already at the "Saturday Night Live" studios here at Rockefeller Center. He even encouraged followers to tune in as he will actually have a tweeting skit. It will be very interesting to see what tone NBC will able to strike tonight.

HARLOW: Polo, thank you very much. We appreciate it. Donald Trump is not the first politician to take a chance at hosting "SNL." But he is doing - the first to do so in this position as a front-runner for a major party's nomination.

CNN's Brian Stelter has a lot to say about it. Brian.

BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Poppy. Just a few more hours before Trump premieres on SNL." Of course, he's a veteran of television, he knows exactly what he is doing. He even hosted the show once before but never before as a presidential candidate.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Great to be here at "Saturday Night Live." But I'll be completely honest, it is even better for "Saturday Night Live" that I'm here.

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STELTER: He is back. Donald Trump on "SNL" this week. This time, instead of promoting his reality TV show -

TRUMP: "The Apprentice."

STELTER: He is promoting his presidential campaign.

TRUMP: So let me just say this. Ben Carson is a complete and total loser.

STELTER: These days from White House hopefuls, late night TV stops are as natural as stump speeches in Iowa. Weekend trips to New York for "SNL" cameos are almost a requirement.

For Hillary Clinton's campaign, being on the first episode of this season was a big victory. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All anyone wants to talk about is Donald Trump.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Donald Trump? Isn't he the one that is like, "eh, they're all losers."

SARAH PALIN: Live from New York, it's Saturday night!

STELTER: And everyone remembers Sarah Palin's appearance in 2008. Right before the election, with her impersonator, Tina Fey.

TINA FEY, COMEDIAN: And I can see Russia from my house.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who is that?

STELTER: One year before Palin's performance, then Senator Barack Obama appeared in a Halloween sketch.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: May I say you make a lovely bride.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: She's a witch!

STELTER: Back in 1994, former President George H.W. Bush had a chance to respond about those jokes about him.

GEORGE H.W. BUSH: I'll have my revenge when the time is right, not now. It wouldn't be prudent at this juncture.

STELTER: These politicians know they'll reach millions of viewers by showing a softer side.

But sometimes it can be quite serious. Recall Rudy Giuliani on "SNL's" first episode after 9/11.

RUDY GIULIANI: Can we be funny?

UNIDENTIFED MALE: Why start now?

STELTER: Another famous New Yorker, Al Sharpton, actually hosted the show in 2003 while running for president.

UNIDENTIFED MALE: I like to go clubbing. And I do love the ladies.

STELTER: But Trump is the first real front-runner to ever host the whole show.

TRUMP: I love what you do. It's great.

STELTER: Another mile post in the merging of politics and pop culture.

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STELTER: Now after he hosts the show tonight, he will be calling into the Sunday morning shows to talk about how he did. He will be in "State of the Union" with Jake Tapper at 9:00 a.m. tomorrow and I'm sure everybody else will be joining him in reviewing his performance. It's going to be an interesting television moment. That's for sure.

Poppy, back to you.

HARLOW: Thank you, Brian. I'm sure you will talk about it a lot on your show as well tomorrow morning.

Coming up next, how Donald Trump's "SNL" appearance will impact his brand. Good, bad. OK. We'll see tonight live on "SNL." That is next.

But first, the head of tonight's CNN's firm "I'll be me" about Glen Campbell's farewell tour. Dr. Sanjay Gupta brings us the story of how a man with early onset Alzheimer's is preserving memories for his family.

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DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: It is every grandfather's dream come true.

GLEN CAMPBELL, SINGER: And I was like, oh, melt my heart. I mean just do it again.

GUPTA: Sandy Halperin wishes these moments could last forever. But he knows they will soon disappear. Such is the tragic reality of Alzheimer's.

CAMPBELL: Our brains, our being. It is our brain that's controlling our body. And you lose your memory. The pain is a different pain. The pain is the emotional pain. That is maybe why I wrote the book. I wanted to get my thoughts on paper for my children and grandchildren on how I thought about things.

GUPTA: Sandy showed me his grandpa or as she calls them Gpaw. On a recent rainy afternoon.

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CAMPBELL: So I wrote here, during your lifetime there will be endless firsts.

GUPTA: What he emerges is a memorable portrait of a caring and quirky dad.

CAMPBELL: I used to make kids' lunches peanut butter and ham and cheese. Whatever was there at the refrigetor.

GUPTA: You put ham and cheese (INAUDIBLE).

CAMPBELL: (INAUDIBLE) they just made crazy sandwiches.

GUPTA: As his disease progresses, opening each book for Sandy is a new joy. A fresh feast of past experiences.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Seeing him remember is the best. You know, when he goes, ah. When he gets it, it's like yes. Little tiny victories of remembering.

CAMPBELL: One, two, three, four. I love you so much.

They talk about the formative years, all the love that I have for them that I can touch and feel and talk to them. Maybe that will make an impact on their lives from their grandpa. They may not have me physically in the future or have me as cognitive as I am now but I hope the influence that I have on them and the time I spend with them is welcome. They have certainly given it back to me multifold every day of their lives.

GUPTA: Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, reporting.

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HARLOW: Before the break, we showed you a preview of what we might see tonight when Donald Trump takes the stage as host of "Saturday Night Live." The last time he hosted was back in 2004.

Here with me now is brand expert and CEO of Demandworks.com, Martha Pease. Martha, we have seen presidential candidates make cameos on "SNL." We've seen, I guess, the last to host was Al Sharpton. But this is the first time that a front runner in a major party is hosting. How much does it matter if he does extraordinarily well, or flops, or alienates people?

MARTHA PEASE, CEO, DEMANDWORKS.COM: Well, I think it matters if he can help people see him as being likable, charming, adult, and mature and able to make fun of himself a bit and pull some of the edge off being bombastic and aggressive. I mean I think "SNL" is a perfect place for him to soften the edges of his brand, move himself into is a slightly different space in the debate stage.

You know, he was on Fallon, he did an amazing job with Fallon. I think it's no accident that Lauren Michaels has the Fallon/SNL connection and Trump has a connection. You know, I think it is a really great environment for him. I'm sure he will do well. If he's a little tone deaf, it won't hurt him. I mean I think it would have to be a really huge gaffe for something to be really disruptive.

HARLOW: Another way people are hearing from him is his radio ads that he is releasing for the first time. Let's play part of one.

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TRUMP: I'll secure our borders and, yes, we will have a wall. You can't have a country without borders. I'll make sure that the second amendment and religious liberties are protected. Obamacare is a total disaster. It will be repealed and replaced with something much better. If the people of Iowa vote for me, you'll never be disappointed. I don't disappoint people. I produce. Together we're going to make America great again. (END VIDEO CLIP)

HARLOW: He is spending about $300,000 on these ads in New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina, these early states. He's a billionaire he can afford them. But it's interesting the strategy, radio not TV. What do you think?

PEASE: Radio is a great medium. He is a great pitch man. It's medium where you can take more time. Radio is a highly intrusive medium. It's very immediate. In this message, I mean, he's not departing from anything he said on the debate stage or in any other venue. It is a trump speech condensed. But it is a brilliant kind of condensation of his vision of transformation. He is all about setting out an idea we can transform. We can be great. I will do these things for you. We will transform America together. And radio is a great, great medium for him to keep pounding away.

HARLOW: Let's talk about another candidate whose message is transformation, personal transformation. That is Dr. Ben Carson who this week is certainly in the spotlight because of scrutiny over his personal story of transformation, of divine intervention from his past that he has recounted as a violent past as a child and teenager into a world class neurosurgeon.

You have said his campaign is confused and amateur right now. Why?

PEASE: Well, I mean he was almost unhinged yesterday trying to kind of battle the incoming from - the questions about his accuracy and information. But what's really important is he is rolling himself out on the national level. It's the first time he is really rolling his brand out. No brand or company or person or politician is any more vulnerable than at this particular moment. You think that a neurosurgeon, who is probably very orderly and has everything organized before he walks into an operating room for 20 hours would have the discipline to have a strategy, have the tools in place and be strategic about the execution.

HARLOW: And you feel like this is all over the place?

PEASE: It's all over the map.

HARLOW: Before I let you go, I want to play this ad. This is a quick clip of Carson's new radio ad.

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HARLOW: What do you make of that?

PEASE: Well, I think it is a message directed at an audience and packaged in such a way that is not a me message to resonate with the audience, and I tell you why. It is a message about getting America back on track and returning to a storied past of values and the value system that frankly most African-Americans didn't benefit from in the early part of our country, and if you listen to ad, he is talking about early on, and we were flooded with people who understood the value of personal responsibility and hard work, and that wasn't the early experience eof African-Americans.

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HARLOW: Martha Pease analyzing the brand of it all.

PEASE: Thank you.

HARLOW: So nice to have you on.

Coming up next my conversation with the CEO of Deloitte. She is the first woman ever to held this job, hear the story of how she got to the top spot by saying no, next.

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HARLOW: Slowly we are seeing more firsts for women in corporate America. (INAUDIBLE) Kathy is the first woman to lead one of the big four consulting and accounting firms to be named the CEO of Deloitte earlier this year. I sat down with her, one of Fortune's most powerful women summit.

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HARLOW (on camera): You are as every knows is the first female CEO at Deloitte or any of your big competitors. It's about time, (INAUDIBLE) to that glass ceiling but you say women oftentimes have trouble saying no and you are a very interesting example of when you said no in your career, and it worked out to your benefit. Tell me about that.

CATHY ENGELBERT, CEO, DELOITTE: Yes, our poor St. Louis office think that I really don't support them, because I was asked when I was pregnant with my first, second child to move to St. Louis for a client. Meanwhile, I had my eyes on a client that was two miles from my house, and I could feed the baby and go back, and I raised my hand, and I said when they came to me with the St. Louis opportunity, and I said, "I don't quite think that is right with me, but with the no, I had the yes behind, but what about this big pharmaceutical client in New Jersey, two miles from my house, and the male partner turned to me and said, "we never would have thought of you for that -

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HARLOW: You're perfect.

ENGELBERT: Really, well, this is what I think why I'm qualified, blah, blah, blah. Three weeks later, I was on that client.

HALROW: You have had women reach out the you at the firm who are planning to leave and are now staying because of you and your story. That is a lot of pressure, but it is also a remarkable thing. You said that once you realized that women in the firm were looking at you like a role model, you changed your approach. How so?

ENGELBERT: Yes, one of the things is that I used to talk about leaving and not because I wanted to go to my daughter's lacrosse game or my son's little league game, but I would make up another excuse and then I said that women are watching us, they're watching all of us, are inspired by us, they're looking up to so and so whether it is because you want to do something with your kids or you want to work on your health and well-being, but for me, it was really about just driving again a work-life balance that fit for me that I knew wasn't linear.

I say all the time I have an 18-year-old daughter going on 30, and a 14-year-old son going three. They're growing in the opposite direction but for me, I needed more flexibility and predictability in my life when they were newborns and toddlers and now they are teenagers, and they don't even look at me when I walk in the house, so it is all about being patient, and it is hard, but it is not linear and it is not perfect, and it is - you can't, you know, everyone is talking about having it all. I say that having it all is defined by somebody else. Can I do it all is defined by me is what we focus on in helping our young career professionals and especially women and men.

By the way when I tell them about the story about going to my daughter's games and things, men come up to me and say, thank you for sharing that because I didn't think that I could go coach my son's little league team or go to my daughter's ballet recital.

HARLOW: Cathy likes to ask everyone if you're (INAUDIBLE) in Deloitte, listen up, she likes to ask this question to all of her potential hires. And that is what do you think the Fortune 500 will look like 10 years from now.

So I want to pose that to you and all the women in this room. What do you think is the Fortune 500 will look like 10 years from now?

ENGELBERT: Well, first of all, amazing. Sixty years ago, the Fortune 500 today, only 61 of the companies are left in the Fortune 500. From 20 years ago, 57 percent are left. So as we are think about the pace of change and the exponentials, I suspect in 10 years, it will look very different. So I don't know exactly which companies will be in it. But I do know there's basically five things, I think, will drive, whether a company stays in or whether a company joins.

The first is companies that is the customer centricity, customer experience and digital is what it all about. It's all about the consumer and the experience. So companies that have relentless focus on that. Evolving, innovation, very, very important. I mentioned, you know, the bank's saying the technology comes to the evolution. Companies have to reinvent themselves, and you hear about not being disrupted, but being the disruptor, those are the companies I think that will survive.

I think really playing in the ecosystem, no one company is going to be able can do it alone going forward and so playing in an ecosystem where you are actually in a - I call it competemies or competition so you're really playing in this ecosystem. We can't do it alone.

Being a great place to work, I think that's part of the purpose that millenials want, and certainly Gen Z want as being a great place to work and with increased mobility and the ability to do things differently, and work differently will be important. And lastly, I really, really hope that there will be a lot more women leaders about what I am sure of in 10 years is that we are all be printing our shoes out on 3d printers.

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HARLOW: We will see if that happens. Cathy Engelbert, thank you very much.

What you behind me the number is 8.7 million, and this is how many jobs have been added during President Obama's term in the White House. Friday's monthly jobs report from the Labor Department shows 271,000 jobs were added in the month of October. That brings unemployment down to five percent. We have not seen an unemployment rate that low since before the financial crisis in 2008. What that data also shows us is that more Americans have been able to move from part-time to full-time work, but it is very important to note that 2.1 million Americans remain long-term unemployed. That' means they have been out of work for more longer than six months making it harder for them to find work.

Wages and consumer spending are also up, both important for economic growth. This does come on the heels of last week's GDP report showing that the U.S. economy only grew at an anemic 1.5 percent last quarter. You can read more about this on cnnmoney.com.

Next, CNN Films present "GLEN CAMPBELL, I'LL BE ME." It is a beautiful inspiring, funny story about the music superstar's struggle with Alzheimer's before and throughout his sold out goodbye tour.

Thank you so much for being with me tonight. I'm Poppy Harlow. Have a great evening. I'll see you back here tomorrow.