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Aired December 16, 2015 - 15:00   ET

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You know, it's amazing to me. The candidates go out and spend hundreds of thousands for pollsters, right? I don't. I have got a lot of money, and it doesn't matter. I have, like, unlimited campaign, and yet -- now, think of this. Think of this. Think of this.

So, Jeb Bush, to this point, has spent over $40 million for ads. He's at 2, 2.

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TRUMP: Donald Trump, until this point, has spent $211,000. I don't even know why I spent it. I think I wanted to give some.

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TRUMP: No, it's true. And I'm at number one by a lot, by 27, 30 points. I'm a lot. So think of it. Wouldn't it be nice if we could do that for our country? Think of it.

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TRUMP: So I spent the least, and I have the best result, unlike -- right? Unlike our students, where we're number one in the world by far in terms of cost per pupil and we're number 28 in the world, OK?

You're right. I think I like that guy. Right? No, no, think of it, because it's like the reverse. So I spent the least. Now, I'm going to spend a lot of money. But I was going to have to spent up to this point $35 million. I thought I needed to spend. What do I know?

And these guys, as much as I can't stand them, they give me all this free publicity. No, it's true, right? If I put an ad on, people would get sick. They say, oh, my God, we had the whole program, and now we have ads. We actually -- please, don't put the ads out. We actually call networks. Please don't put that ad. They cover you for a full hour. And then every 12 minutes, they have an ad for Trump.

No, it doesn't work. So I was going to have $35 million spent up -- literally right up to this point, and I have spent nothing. I haven't spent anything. But we're ready to spend. I mean, we're ready to spend. And we're going to spend a lot, and I think we're going to win Iowa. We just came out where we're leading in Iowa now, which is a great place.

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TRUMP: But this, I love, because this just came out. Drudge. Now, this is with 15 people. Drudge is great. How good is Drudge, right? Great guy. He's a great guy.

So, they do these online polls where they have hundreds of thousands of people. So, they vote. Somebody would say, oh, well, they're not reliable because Trump voters, there's hundreds of -- do you think I'm going to have my people sit there and make hundreds of thousands of phone calls?

And then they don't report it anyway if I win, because if I win they don't report it. They have these guys George Will. You fall asleep listening to this guy, George Will. If he didn't wear the little spectacles, he wouldn't even be bright. Nobody would think of him as -- this is George Will.

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TRUMP: I mean, I have got to tell you, Krauthammer is terrible. He is so unfair to me. He's the worst. He's the worst. And I'm not allowed to criticize him. Krauthammer, he's terrible, he's terrible.

You have a guy named Stephen Hayes. I have never even heard of this guy. When my name is mentioned, it's like he's a bull. He goes crazy. Now, part of the reason is they all said I was never going to run, right? And then I ran.

Then they say, well, he will never file form A. That's basically a single page where you sign your life away. And I went like this, oh, let's go. Boom, I sign. Then they said, well, maybe he's not as rich as everyone thinks. And he will never file his financials. And if he does, he will file them in two years from now, because you're allowed a lot of extensions.

I filed them ahead of schedule in less than 30 days, OK? Almost 100 pages, and the press was down there. They said they'd never seen anything like it. They were scouring those things. Believe me, I wouldn't be running unless I was really rich because they would have killed me. And, by the way, you haven't read one report bad, that -- I built a great company. I built a tremendous company, very little debt, tremendous cash flow, the best assets.

And the only reason I say it -- I'm not saying it, because it sounds terrible in a certain way. I don't want to brag. But that's the thinking we need in this country. We have $19 trillion in debt. We have $19 trillion in debt. We built a $43 million gas station in Afghanistan, and it doesn't even sell the right gas. OK? Forty-three million.

Do you think you could have built that gas station for slightly less? No, you look at the things, the money, we spend $1 billion to build a hospital. You spent -- you could build seven hospitals for that. We could take care of our vets for money. We have such stupid people leading us.

I used to say they're incompetent. I didn't want to use the word stupid. It's too crude and too tough. They don't know I went to an Ivy League school. I'm really like a smart guy. My uncle was at MIT. He was a professor for years. They didn't believe it. They went and checked, Dr. John Trump.

I actually think he was there for five decades, MIT. He was one of the great engineer scientists. And, you know, it's like really good stuff. But when they talk about us, they talk about us like, do we know?

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Let me tell you, these are the smartest people. These are the people that made our country great originally. These are the great people. These are the great people.

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TRUMP: And we're going to take you're country back and we're going to turn it around and we're going to run it smart. We're going to run it smart.

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TRUMP: We give $150 billion to Iran. Listen to this. This, I just heard this morning. We give $150 billion to Iran. They self-inspect their big site, in other words, where they're making the nukes.

Can you imagine you call them? We hear you're making nukes. OK, well, let us check. They call. No, we're not making nukes there, you dumb -- and then -- no, but think of this, think of this.

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TRUMP: And then they have the 24-day, where they have 24 days, but before the clock starts ticking, you have to go through a whole process. It could be forever before you get there.

And you know the other thing? Look, nuclear is so important. It's more important than anything. And having a deal is good, but we have got to make good deals, not bad deals. But another thing, they get four prisoners, they wouldn't even get out. I have been complaining about this for months, long before they did the deal, get the prisoners out -- 150.

So now the deal is done. And what do I hear this morning?

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Well, this is the front-runner in the Republican primary race for president, Donald Trump there. This is the first time we have heard from him since we saw him center stage last night at the Venetian Hotel in Las Vegas.

We were just talking to the Jeb Bush campaign a moment ago. A lot of these candidates are already out and about, Marco Rubio in New Hampshire. You get the picture. They are on the stump.

Let me bring in our chief political analyst, Gloria Borger, and political commentator Cathy Lynn Taylor. He's also the founder of The Policy People.

And, Gloria, let me just begin with you, because really right out of the gate, Donald Trump was taking on Jeb Bush. What did he say? He said, Jeb, you know, low energy again. And we were talking about the sparring back and forth. And I'm curious, of everyone on that stage last night, that Jeb Bush, Gloria, was really the only one -- Rand Paul -- who really directly took jabs at Mr. Trump.

GLORIA BORGER, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Right.

I think, look, it doesn't really pay off for people or it hasn't so far. And I think Jeb Bush is -- it's a calculated risk for him to do this. I think it's something he feels very strongly about. I think he clearly feels that Trump is not a serious candidate for the presidency, as he said last night, and called his ideas crazy.

But I do think it's a calculated risk, because all of those candidates who have taken on Trump frontally have declined in the polls. And so it's not -- so, it's really not easy. However, Bush is going for a very different segment of the Republican primary electorate.

And I think in taking on Bush, he believes politically that perhaps he could boost his chances in New Hampshire with those more moderate or independent voters who can also vote in a Republican primary.

BALDWIN: OK.

Cathy, let me turn to you, because a lot of people were watching. We were talking a lot the last 48 hours about this relationship between Trump and Cruz, right? And so I immediately -- just to refresh everybody's minds, there was an event Capitol Hill -- it was a couple of months ago -- where we have really seen sort of Cruz and Trump be buddy-buddy. And Dana Bash was talking to Trump during this event, talking about their romance. Remember this?

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JEB BUSH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Donald, you know, is great at -- at the one-liners, but he's a chaos candidate. And he'd be a chaos president. He would not be the commander in chief we need to keep our country safe.

TRUMP: Jeb doesn't really believe I'm unhinged. He said that very simply because he has failed in this campaign. It's been a total disaster. Nobody cares. And, frankly, I'm the most solid person up here. I built a tremendous company and all I want to do is make America great again.

TRUMP: Well, it is a little bit of a romance. I like him. He likes me. He's backed me 100 percent.

When I came about illegal immigration, he was the one person that really -- and there were a couple of others of the candidates. But Ted Cruz was out there and he really backed me very strongly, as you know as well as anybody else, and I always respected that.

I thought that was very nice. And he actually asked me to get along here, come along. And I guess he figured that we would get a big crowd. And we certainly have gotten a big crowd.

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BALDWIN: That was the sound bite I was looking for, Cathy.

But then a lot of people last night were watching for any potential attacks with regard those two. Again, maybe to Gloria's point, that you know what happens when you try to jab back at Trump. Are you surprised at that, though? Why not?

CATHY LYNN TAYLOR, THE POLICY PEOPLE: Well, look, it is interesting.

Everybody was looking for a little bit of interaction or sparring, to say the least, between Cruz and Trump. And it didn't really happen. They were more than frenemies. They were like long lost brothers.

BALDWIN: What is that about?

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TAYLOR: And what it's about is that Ted Cruz cannot afford to alienate Trump's base right now. And he's straddling a river. And he needs to be careful, Ted Cruz, that he doesn't fall in.

Here was America's tough talking Tea Party darling, and now over the last week, he's making a transition to a Reagan conservative. It's not clear if his policy history is going to jibe with the direction he wants to go.

I think Marco Rubio knows this and that's why he very subtly started to take him on about immigration last night. But there was a subtle seed planted. And so Ted Cruz is straddling this kind of I need Trump supporters, but I don't want to alienate everybody. I want to be the nice guy now. The question remains to be see as to whether that can work.

BALDWIN: We knew what the headline the day after today being the Rubio/Cruz dynamic for sure, not so subtle at points at all.

Gloria, to you. Let me stay on Ted Cruz, because just in to us here at CNN, the chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee is apparently looking into some of Cruz's comments from last night, looking into potential classified information? What do you know about that?

BORGER: Well, if you remember, at the debate, Cruz got into a huge debate with Marco Rubio over surveillance, and Rubio basically made the point that you voted against this measure that makes us less safe.

And Cruz came back and said, look, in the old bill, only 20 percent to 30 percent of your phone calls were actually listened to. Now this new measure includes 100 percent that we now have and that I like.

And so the chairman of the Intelligence Committee is like, wait a minute, where did you get those numbers? Now, it's not clear that he said anything that he shouldn't have said, that was classified. But when you talk about numbers in that specificity, questions are raised.

He's not on the Intelligence Committee, so, personally, I probably believe that he didn't disclose classified information. But we're going to have to wait to hear from the chairman on that.

BALDWIN: Gloria Borger, Cathy Lynn Taylor, thank you so much.

TAYLOR: Thank you.

BALDWIN: We will get more on the debate and who other folks say it's time to drop out in just a moment.

But let's right get to our breaking news from the business world that virtually impacts each and every one much of us. The worst-kept secret on Wall Street, it is now officially out. As anticipated, the Federal Reserve has just hiked a key interest rate. It's called the federal funds rate. This is by a quarter-point. This hasn't been done in 10 years, essentially since 2006. Just think about that.

That is before any of us knew what an iPhone was. Minutes ago, the chairwoman of the fed, Janet Yellen, explained how solid jobs numbers influenced their decision.

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JANET YELLEN, FEDERAL RESERVE CHAIR: The labor market has clearly shown significant further improvement toward our objective of maximum employment. So far this year, a total of 2.3 million jobs have been added to the economy.

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BALDWIN: Let's go straight to Alison Kosik. She's live there on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange.

What has the reaction been thus far?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A lot of relief here on the floor, Brooke.

You know, the way investors and traders have been feeling about this, the Fed has been talking about raising rates for the better part of a year. And when it happened, you heard one trader yell, "Ladies and gentlemen, we have got liftoff finally," and finally is really the collective feeling here on Wall Street, because what this winds up doing is giving confidence to investors that the Fed actually feels that the economy seems to be strong enough to support higher borrowing rates.

It also winds up giving the Fed a little extra wiggle room just in case there's a downturn in the economy, that the Fed would have a few more tools in its tool shed to go ahead and actually cut rates to accommodate, let's say, a slowing economy.

As far as the market goes, you can see the market is pleasantly -- it's very happy about it, the Dow up 174 points. As for how this affects you, how this affects me, well, across the board, borrowing rates are going to go up. Let's say you take out a new loan for a car or you have a variable rate for a credit card. Expect those loans to go up -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: Alison Kosik, thank you very much.

We have got about 45 minutes left to the closing day, 173 points up on the board.

One columnist says only four candidates should remain in the race and everyone else should quit. Find out who and why.

Plus, from Trump's backslaps to Ben Carson's moment of silence and Carly Fiorina's one-liners, we will talk to a debate coach. He will join me live to critique their performances from last night.

And big story out of Baltimore we're watching very closely now. After being deadlocked, a jury in one of the trial of one of the Baltimore police officers accused in Freddie Gray's death has sent another message to the judge. A decision could come any moment.

Stay here.

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ANNOUNCER: This is CNN breaking news.

BALDWIN: All right, we're breaking out of commercial break with this huge piece of information. We have been watching really closely here this case involving the death of Freddie Gray. This is the first of six police officers charged in his death.

We have now learned the judge has declared a mistrial, a mistrial, after multiple days of deliberations here. We have learned that the jury had been deadlocked. They have been sending notes back to the judge, now officially declaring it's been declared a mistrial.

Do we have Miguel Marquez? Yes.

Miguel Marquez, go ahead.

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, an incredibly tense afternoon here in Baltimore, incredibly tense afternoon here in Baltimore.

The judge -- the jury rang about 30 minutes ago, and then it took them forever, basically, it felt like. Mr. Porter, officer Porter, his mother in the courtroom, the courtroom entirely packed with people, not only journalists, but people from around town, other lawyers coming in, clearly sensing -- Marilyn Mosby, the state's attorney, was in court as well. The jury finally came into court after a lengthy bench conference with

the judge and then the judge said, I understand, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you have been unable to reach a decision on any of the four charges against officer Porter.

He thanked them for their service and then dismissed them, holding everybody in court for a few minutes and then allowing them to go after he cleared the court and had a brief bench trial again with the lawyers.

The big question now is where all this goes from here and how will this mistrial be viewed in Baltimore itself. Everybody in this city wanted to know what that verdict was in the days leading up to it. Everybody that I would see, that would see me, that would see other reporters in town asking, what's the verdict? What's the verdict? That's the only thing on their minds.

This will be hard for people to understand. It will be back to square one, basically, not only for this trial, but for the process and for the people of Baltimore, I think great concern about what the reaction to this will be. I can tell you that many people I was talking to in the neighborhood where Freddie Gray was arrested see the idea of a mistrial as a win for the defense.

That means that officer Porter gets to go free, that there is another process, and that all of this starts all over again. They won't like this at all. I don't know if that will amount to a sort of angry outburst or unrest because of it -- Brooke.

BALDWIN: Let me ask you quickly here, Miguel, just a little bit of context before I bring in our lawyers to parse through all of this. We know the jury has been deliberating for multiple days. We know, what, just in the last couple hours, they sent two notes to the judge. Can you give me a little bit more of just sort of the ticktock especially in the last few hours as far as what happened with the jury for the judge to reach this decision?

MARQUEZ: Well, the jury yesterday -- so we have seen them several times now that they have gone in. It's about, what, 15 hours now of deliberation they have been through.

Three days ago, they started. They went for about three hours, and then they broke for the day. They came back. The next day, they looked to be more comfortable when they broke for lunch yesterday. They looked almost as though they were working hard and perhaps moving toward a decision.

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Two hours after lunch, they came back and said, Judge, we are deadlocked. We can't come to a decision.

It was unclear then whether they then whether they were deadlocked on one or all four charges. The judge sent them back, read them an Allen charge, as they call it, basically sent them back, said, look at the evidence again, keep your minds open and try again. They went back for about 24 more hours now. When they came out

yesterday, they looked -- they were looking straight ahead. There was none of that sort of camaraderie that we had seen with the jury previously. And when they came back today, clearly, it was much the same thing, looking straight ahead, not talking to each other.

Some of the jurors trying to make eye contact, it seemed, with officer Porter. But for the most part, this is a jury that I think was very, very torn by these charges, much like this city is torn by what has happened here over the last many months, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Watching the city reaction. I don't know if these are live pictures we're looking at. Guys, get in my ear and let me know.

But watching the city react here to the news. Miguel Marquez, thank you. Stand by.

Of the fact that this judge has declared this mistrial in this first case involving this first police officer involved in the death of Freddie day, I have Paul Callan and Sunny Hostin, who just popped in the seats very quickly with me with this breaking news.

I appreciate you both of you for doing that.

Wow, mistrial. Surprised?

SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Wow. I am surprised. I'm actually surprised that the judge did not send them back again just one more time, because we know how important this case is to the nation, quite frankly, not only Baltimore, but to the nation.

BALDWIN: One more time.

HOSTIN: Everyone is watching. But the judge would know best. He has been in the courtroom from the very beginning.

And I suppose if you have a jury come back and say, even after the Allen charge, even after trying again, even after obviously asking for more information, they still could not reach a unanimous verdict, then this would be the right thing to do. But, nonetheless, I am sort of shocked at it.

BALDWIN: Super simple question, though. When we say a judge declares a mistrial, does that finito, done, or can you go back and retry?

PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR: Oh, no, you can retry. The word mistrial merely means there's been no verdict and the case can in fact be retried.

Now, there are situations sometimes where a mistrial is caused by prosecutorial misconduct, and then double jeopardy might apply.

BALDWIN: OK. But that's not this case. It's a deadlock.

CALLAN: No. If this is a situation where there's a legitimate deadlock, a hung jury, then this case can be retried. I think -- I agree with Sunny on virtually everything she said. But I

wanted to add one other thing. I'm shocked that the prosecutor picked this case to start. I mean, if you're going to send a message that we have a case that reflects justice and that is the correct case, I don't think you want to start out with the problem case.

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BALDWIN: That is such an important point.

CALLAN: And this case looks to be a very weak case, and obviously if there's a hung jury, it was presented in a weak way.

BALDWIN: Let me get to that in just a moment. As I'm listening to you, I also know that these are live pictures here in Baltimore. Let's just dip in and listen really quickly to what these folks have to say.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... which he was hired, hired by a corrupt mayor, voted in by a corrupt city council to protect.

On Election Day, we got to make sure we go out to the polls. Election Day is April 26, the eve of the Baltimore uprising. We got to make sure we vote out the corruption and vote in a new wave called convictions for jail for killer cops.

We have got to bring in a new tide of new leadership. We cannot continue to be led by the blind. We are fighting for our lives. I don't want to be out here again fighting for another person, because there will be another hashtag. Baltimore police just got the (INAUDIBLE) that they can get away with killing poor black people.

BALDWIN: All right, let's pull away from this, as we have an eye on the streets of Baltimore. We have folks obviously -- crews who have been there for quite a while, CNN crews inside that courtroom.

I have got lawyers here and also Andy Alperstein, lawyer there in Baltimore who really has had his ear to the gone on this case and the sentiment there in that community.

Andy Alperstein, a mistrial, does that surprise you?

ANDY ALPERSTEIN, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, it doesn't surprise me. I mean, it's a polarizing issue. The issues in this case were confusing and the evidence against this particular officer was unique and it was different than the other defendants.

BALDWIN: Are you with me, Andy?

ALPERSTEIN: Yes. Can you hear me?

BALDWIN: Yes, yes. I can hear you. OK. I didn't know if that was a complete thought.

The charges here, let's walk through and just remind everyone involving officer William Porter, charges, involuntary manslaughter, second-degree assault, misconduct in office and reckless endangerment.

So I think to Paul Callan's point, I would love to hear you on this, as well, are you -- the fact that they went with officer Porter as the first police officer in these six different trials since they severed the cases, six officers trialed separately, thoughts on the fact that he went first.

ALPERSTEIN: Well, so this officer went first because, at least in part, the state had said in pleadings that they wanted to have him as a witness available against the driver, Caesar Goodson, who is scheduled to go to trial in early January.

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Their thinking seemingly was, if he was convicted, maybe they could flip him and get him to become a witness for the state when faced with potential incarceration and a conviction.

On the other hand, if he was acquitted, he became what's called a compellable witness. He could be forced to testify. He's a police officer. He would be served. And that would be the way they would go. This hung jury is really I think a major setback for the state, because they have neither option available.

Officer Porter remains a charged defendant, and he has a Fifth Amendment privilege. In other words, he can't be compelled to testify against officer Porter. The evidence against officer Porter was unique, because he's the only one of these officers that made a very meaningful statement, and that statement was used against him.

And in that statement, he talked about the role of some of the supervisors, the other officers, and especially the driver. So that evidence is not necessarily available to the state at this point, and it's really a big setback for the state.

BALDWIN: Danny Cevallos is joining us. Andy, stay with me. Danny Cevallos is joining us as well.

I think Andy hit on a really important point, that this officer, he testified himself. And I'm wondering when this case is tried again, who has the advantage going into that next trial? Would it be the defense?

DANNY CEVALLOS, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: In this case, probably. I mean, any -- you could argue that any hung jury is an advantage for the defense.

But at the same time, I feel the defense attorneys probably believed that this would be a not guilty. So this is probably to them a bit of a setback. However, the question arises, will he be prosecuted again? And I have to agree with Andrew that the set of dominoes that the prosecution set up in trying officer Porter first has not only not fallen.

Now there's going to be considerable delay. It pushes back their entire strategy considerably, because if this defendant is not convicted, they have no leverage to use against him. He's still a charged defendant. He will not be testifying against officer Goodson in the near future.

So I think their plan of severing these trials, for whatever strategy it was, left them proving a small portion of the case against one defendant, and now that has not ended in a guilty, as the prosecution had hoped.

BALDWIN: Go ahead, Paul.

CALLAN: I wanted to add that there was a third option that was available to this prosecutor that she did not utilize and a lot of other prosecutors would have, and that was if she needed officer Porter as a key witness against the other cops, she could have given him immunity.

BALDWIN: Full immunity.

CALLAN: And forced him to testify.

BALDWIN: Yes.

CALLAN: And you give him immunity, he can't assert the Fifth Amendment. He then has to tell the story on the witness stand.

Instead, what they chose to do is to try him in this case so that he was either convicted and he couldn't assert the Fifth Amendment or acquitted and he couldn't assert the Fifth Amendment. Now they're stuck in the middle. They have got a mistrial. Do they retry him or not?

BALDWIN: Is that even a question, though, of retrying?

HOSTIN: Absolutely.

BALDWIN: This is a huge case in Baltimore.

HOSTIN: I think there's no question that this prosecution is going to want to retry this case.

But I think that a prosecutor never wants to retry a hung jury case, because now the defense has seen your entire case. Your witnesses...

BALDWIN: And your cards are played.

HOSTIN: ... are wedded to the testimony that they have already provided.

And I agree with Paul. It's really interesting, because when you're prosecuting this type of case, and you have multiple potential defendants, you want to get at least -- you want to offer a plea deal, you want to get someone that was there that will testify against one of the other defendants.

And in this case, it's very clear that none of these officers wanted to do that. A lot of people are talking about the blue wall of silence. But that seems to have happened. And I don't understand why this prosecution, acting so very quickly to bring these cases, didn't offer anyone immunity.

That is very, very shocking to me. And, quite frankly, I have been critical from the very beginning about how quickly this prosecution brought these cases.

You know, in order to get I think a fair and impartial jury, this -- the rioting happened in Baltimore so -- it was such a short time ago, to get this jury and to bring it in front of this jury this kind of evidence, I remain critical of the decision to try all six of them in this order this quickly with these charges.

I think the gamble didn't pay off.

BALDWIN: How much pressure, though? We were in Baltimore off and on for much of the spring covering the unrest, the demonstrations, and in some cases violence in the wake of this death, and then eventually you have this, all right, six officers charged.

And now, though, I imagine the pressure is on, depending on how the city reacts, to this mistrial to re-trial this case. Can you do it pretty quickly, immediately?

CALLAN: Well, it could in theory be brought to trial very quickly.

BALDWIN: Right.

CALLAN: A couple of months. You know, you have to get the transcripts.

BALDWIN: A couple of months? OK.

CALLAN: Well, it's going to take a couple of months, because you have to get the transcripts of all of the testimony prepared