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Aired January 14, 2016 - 03:00   ET

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ERROL BARNETT, CNN INTERNATIONAL NEWSROOM HOST: -- here in the states and those of you watching from all around the world. We continue to follow breaking news this hour out of Indonesia. I am Errol Barnett.

ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN INTERNATIONAL NEWSROOM HOST: And I am Rosemary Church. We do want to thank you for joining us. This is CNN Newsroom.

BARNETT: Now we want to begin with new information on the terror attack as the country's President calls it in Jakarta. CNN Indonesia now reports that six people were killed in Thursday's terror attack there, that information coming from the national police. Also, CNN Indonesia says police shot and killed four attackers separate to the six people we now know who were killed. Those four attackers they believe carried out the series of gun and bomb attacks.

CHURCH: So this is a very fluid situation of course, as we report this. The number of casualties has changed, and this could very well change as we continue bringing you this breaking news. Now police say they are now working to secure the area. These attacks happened in the last few hours. There has been no claim of responsibility so far. But Indonesia has been on high alert in recent weeks as we've been reporting to you.

And police and the military have been going after the east Indonesian Mujahideen, which has pledged support for ISIS. Now it appears one of the targets in these attacks was a Starbucks coffee shop. We are told the windows of the cafe were blown out in one of the blasts.

BARNETT: You can see one of the blasts in that footage. Here is a statement Starbucks just released. In part it reads, "One customer sustained injuries and was treated on the scene. Our employees are all confirmed to be safe. This store and all other Starbucks stores in Jakarta will remain closed out of an abundance of caution until further notice."

CHURCH: CNN's Kathy Quiano joins us again from central Jakarta with more on this developing story. And Kathy, as we've just been reporting, we now understand six people, including one foreigner have been killed in addition to the four suspects who were killed. And then of course, there are ten people who have been injured, and one of them is a foreigner as well. At this point, we do not know the nationalities. But talk to us about those clarifications and what more you're hearing from authorities there in Jakarta.

KATHY QUIANO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Rosemary, we know at least six -- maybe even seven people were killed. One of them has not been identified, and maybe that's why the number six is being reported so far. But we do know that civilians have been killed in the gun battle and explosions that happened earlier today in Jakarta. We assume these victims were near or in the Starbucks coffee shop that was first targeted. Eyewitnesses said that the first explosion did happen in Starbucks and then the attack on the police outpost happened afterwards.

The gunfight ended. One armed suspect fleeing the scene. From what police have been saying so far, four suspects were killed, and their bodies were brought to the police hospital. For now, the situation here has calmed down a bit, but we know that police forces are still in the area trying to secure it. People are not allowed to go inside the building or any of the Starbucks cafe but they're able to move around that building.

People are milling about, trying to see what's happened here. But Rosemary, this is a city on edge now, after this attack. People didn't expect this to happen.

CHURCH: Totally understand that. But police did move very quickly. But do clarify for us as well. You say they're trying to secure the area. Does that mean there is still a threat?

QUIANO: Well, for now there's no clear indication that the police have cleared out the area. They are still searching, from our colleague who's down there right now. He said there were some police forces there. At one point, they had to run away thinking that they were going to detonate an explosive. So perhaps there's a fear that there may be explosives that have been left around after the attacks. But certainly, they're trying to secure the area where a few hundred meters away from the skyline building, the Starbucks cafe, and we're not allowed to go anywhere near from that where we are, Rosemary?

CHURCH: And at what point can we expect to hear more about the victims?

QUIANO: All right. I think they've identified at least two of the civilians who were killed. And as you said, one of them is a foreign national. And from what we've seen so far, they're still to identify a third civilian as well. And those numbers may rise, as you said, because this information came hours before the attack.

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We didn't know, for example, that the Starbucks was the first target, the first explosion happened there. So the numbers may rise, but hopefully not as high as people would think. But you know this attack as I said -- Indonesia is not a stranger to these attacks. We've seen the Marriott Hotels bombed here twice and the Australian embassy as well, and of course, we had the Bali bombing in 2002. You know people -- those attacks are so very top of people's minds here. And the fear and threat of terror is something that people take very seriously in Indonesia, Rosemary?

CHURCH: They do. And of course, you know I just mentioned how quickly the police moved on this. Talk to us about the links to counterterrorism and the work that is done in Jakarta and beyond across Indonesia to really move fast when situations like this occur.

QUIANO: Well, Indonesia has an elite counterterrorism force. They were formed shortly after the first major attacks here in Bali. They're very highly trained. Not just in terms of responding to attacks like this but also in trying to prevent any attacks. They've been in pursuit of hundreds of terror suspects in the last decade or so. And they have a very high rate of convictions. A lot of these terror suspects were put in jail. A lot of them are still in prison.

And that's also another concern here in Indonesia, is that many of these radical terrorists are in the prison system and they're able to communicate with other prisoners. Even through their supporters outside of the prison system. And that is one of the approaches that the government has taken, is to make sure that radicalization does not spread. It's still a minority of groups who espouse to launching terror attacks in Indonesia.

QUIANO: All right, CNN's Kathy Quiano joining us there from central Jakarta. And just to clarify, six civilians killed, perhaps seven, and these numbers may rise. But at that point -- at this point, we know one of them is a foreigner. We do not know the nationality of that particular victim. Thank you so much, Kathy, for joining us. We will of course, return to you very soon.

BARNETT: And at this moment, it's just past 3:00 p.m. there in Jakarta. It's the afternoon. This all unfolded in the past three or four hours, this attack taking place right in the middle of the day in a very busy part of the city. For people there it was extremely frightening. Earlier, I spoke with Jeremy Douglas. He's with the United Nations office on Drugs and Crime. That office close to where all of this happened. He witnessed the attack and earlier told me what he saw. Just listen.

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JEREMY DOUGLAS, UNITED NATIONS OFFICE ON DRUGS AND CRIME: I was actually pulling into the U.N. building so I was behind it, thankfully coming in from the back. And we got a phone call from our security saying something happened in front of the building, a suspected bomb had gone off. We weren't quite sure what was going on but we then pulled up to the front of the building and got out of the car to go in. And suddenly a bomb went off, a fairly sizable one, pretty close by. Just around the corner, I guess. At that point, we realized we're in a bit of a problem here.

So we rushed into the building. About a couple minutes later as we're trying to get in an elevator to go up to our office on the tenth floor, a third bomb went off. And we thought this is really bad. We got up to our office and we heard a fourth and a fifth and a sixth bomb. And we heard an exchange of small arms fire in front of the building. BARNETT: We are looking at footage from outside, Jeremy, of a few of

those blasts. You see an explosion. This is in an open area next to the street. You see what appears to be a puff of smoke almost as they were detonated. At that point after you heard the explosions, how quickly was it until you heard the exchange of gunfire?

DOUGLAS: It would have been a few minutes. I want to say about five minutes give or take. So there was the initial explosion as said. I guess there was a gap of a couple minutes. And then there was one minute another, a couple in rapid succession, and then the exchange of gunfire. And then we understand -- and then the police swept in. Actually, they were very quick on the scene, which good for them. But then the militants seemed to be holed up in some buildings nearby.

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BARNETT: And we are now looking at some of that footage from the street as police rushed out there to make sure everyone was safe, make sure they had identified all of the attackers. We're now told by police that four of the suspects were killed in that exchange of gunfire. Our producer outside says the scene is much calmer now. Have you received the all clear from police or are you still hunkered down?

DOUGLAS: We're still locked down. We're waiting for the clearance to leave the building. We're about to go into a security briefing ourselves to find out exactly what happened and the status of the U.N. staff, and then we're going to hopefully get a clearance to leave later this afternoon. But the area appears secure at this point.

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BARNETT: Jeremy Douglas speaking with me earlier, incredibly frightening. When he spoke with us, they were still on a lockdown. It's unclear if the security situation has ended. But as our producer there told us as far as they know, this is still a dangerous situation.

CHURCH: They're still trying to secure the area. So we can assume they haven't been released yet. But Indonesia of course, is no stranger to terror attacks. On July 17 back in 2009, at least two presumed suicide bombers killed seven people and wounded more than 50 others at the Marriott and Ritz Carlton Hotels.

BARNETT: Police say a third bomb was found. Another hotel was safely diffused on October 1st, 2005. Explosions on the island of Bali killed at least 26 people and wounded more than 100 others there.

CHURCH: Now the bombs went off at resort spots packed with tourists in seaside bars and shopping hubs, 202 people were also killed on October 12th, 2002 at two Bali nightclubs catering to tourists.

BARNETT: Two hundred forty people were wounded in those explosions. An Indonesian police chief called these attacks the worst acts of terrorism in the country's history. And now this incident with at least six people, six civilians killed, those numbers could change. Four suspects also killed.

CHURCH: And do stay with CNN for much more of our live breaking coverage of the terror attacks in Jakarta. We'll be back in just a moment.

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BARNETT: We continue to follow breaking news for you out of Jakarta, Indonesia. CNN Indonesia reports that six people, including a foreigner were killed in Thursday's terror attack in the capital, that information coming to us from the national police. Also, CNN Indonesia says police shot and killed four attackers who carried out the gun and bomb attacks.

CHURCH: Now, police say they are now working to try to secure that area. These attacks happened in the last few hours, of course. And there has been no claim of responsibility so far. But Indonesia has been on high alert in recent weeks. Police and the military have been going after the east Indonesian Mujahideen, which has pledged support for ISIS.

BARNETT: Now earlier, we spoke with Christian Heubel, who heard explosions from his building. Listen.

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CHRISTIAN HEUBEL, WITNESS: We were working here at the Plaza Indonesia. That's like the very central office in central Jakarta. And just 500 meters away from our office, we are on level 20, so we can see really a lot of the city, and 500 meters away we just saw like a really huge smoke and sound like an explosion. And we were wondering what it is because at first we thought it's like from the construction site which is next to our building. But then it turns out it was on the street like near a Starbucks coffee or something like that or a police station.

Then there was another explosion and another explosion. It was really like five or six explosions or gunshots, which was really weird. And we realized ok, there's something going on. Yeah, it's really strange because our building is locked out. We cannot enter. We cannot leave the building. But so far everything is safe here. It probably will take a few hours I guess. Nobody knows what's going on.

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BARNETT: A very scary situation there still for so many people. We are aggressively monitoring the scene there. We're in contact with police. We are gathering new information for you. As soon as we have that into CNN and as soon as we have that confirmed, we will bring it to you, but for the moment we want to bring you some other big stories we're following right now.

CHURCH: Yes. And a U.N. source tells CNN that a second aid convoy is on its way to three besieged areas of Syria, 50 trucks loaded with flour, medicine, and winter clothes are heading to Madaya and two towns in the north.

BARNETT: Now, the first aid shipment in months arrived in Madaya Monday, if you remember. Aid workers were reduced to tears when they saw the desperate conditions there. The U.N. requested the immediate medical evacuation of 400 residents. The source says they will be treated on site by doctors and nutritionists within that convoy.

Now, there is no end in sight to the volatility in the global financial markets. Falling oil prices have been fueling concerns for stocks around the globe.

CHURCH: Investors have also been worried about China's struggling economy, and questions remain about the stability of China's currency, the Yuan, and the government's moves to control its value.

BARNETT: U.S. markets are officially in correction territory. All three major New York indices are down 10 percent or more from their recent highs. On Wednesday, the DOW fell 364 points to close at 16,151, as you see there on the screens. The NASDAQ was down 3 1/2 percent. The S&P 500 lost 2 1/2 percent.

CHURCH: Well, the trading day has ended in the Asia pacific region with pretty surprising results, in fact. Japan's Nikkei was the biggest loser, down more than 2 1/2 percent. The Shanghai Composite finished up about two percent. Hong Kong ended the day down more than half a percent there, and Australia's index closed down 1 1/2 percent.

BARNETT: Now, we have team coverage for you with the anchor of CNN's the Business View, Nina Dos Santos standing by in London. But first let's begin with CNN's Asia Pacific Editor Andrew Stevens live for us in Hong Kong.

Andrew, the Chinese government threw out the so-called circuit breakers this week, after they proved to make things worse during the multiple closures due to stock dives last week. How can we explain the fluctuations we've seen this week and today, and how do we explain the Shanghai Composite ending up?

ANDREW STEVENS, CNN'S ASIA PACIFIC EDITOR: I think the first thing to notice is with these fluctuations, Errol they're much less severe, much less radical than they were when the circuit breakers were in. So investors to a degree are being allowed to find the market's more natural level. There are very little natural operations going on in Shanghai at the moment given the restrictions in place on so many parts of that market.

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You can't give one clear reason as to why Shanghai finished up today. It was down 2 1/2 percent at the open. In fact, it was down below the lows of the summer when it crashed more than 30 percent during the summer. It actually was down below those low levels a little earlier today, and then it came back. There could be government buying in there. We don't know. The only thing you can say with any certainty is that it remains a very, very volatile market. It could easily lose those gains in the next 24 hours and then some. But generally here in Asia, it was a much less down day than -- at the

close than it appeared at the open because the Nikkei was down more than four percent at one stage. There has been a little bit of stability returning. Take a look at the context in this year so far. Look at the numbers of the markets around Asia so far this year, and you'll see the sort of damage that has happened here, the Nikkei down nearly 10 percent. Shanghai down 15 percent, Hong Kong down 10 percent. The Australian market down 7.5 percent, this is in just two weeks. So it really is still this very tumultuous time, not only in Asia but across the border, across the globe.

But a lot of it is being led by Asia. If you strip out the worries about oil, it's the China story that continues to worry investors deeply given it's the second biggest economy. People at this stage just don't know the extent of the slowdown there. And while these sorts of concerns continue and while they continue to get numbers out which don't look good from China, it's likely we're going to see this sort of volatility at least here in Asia continue.

BARNETT: Yeah, this very well could be the new normal. Andrew Stevens live for us in Hong Kong, 22 minutes past 4:00 in the afternoon there, Andrew, thanks.

CHURCH: And trading is just getting under way this hour in Europe's financial markets. Taking a look now at the early numbers, and you can see there all the arrows in negative territory. London's FTSE 100 down 1.4 percent, or around about that, Germany's market lost more than 1 1/2 percent, and similar losses there in Paris and in Zurich. So let's head to London now, where our Nina Dos Santos is watching the markets. Ok, so we've seen this before. Whatever happens there in Asia is problematic. A bit of a mixed bag there, though, today but certainly those arrows all down across the European markets. What's going on here?

NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, you can see, Rosemary, the map behind me really illustrates it. All of these regions in major stock markets across this region in the red today. On the one hand, yes, you're right, it is Asia and concerns over growth in China because that's a key export market for these particular countries, but also it's the correction that we saw in the United States overnight as well. Remember that the markets here are far more closely linked to the markets in the United States than they are to the stock markets in places like China, and that is one of the added concerns that people have over here.

Let's talk about the oil price because that's what Andrew mentioned. He's absolutely right. Remember that there's a number of very, very big stock listed stock companies on things like the FTSE 100. Also the French exchange, the (Inaudible) oil companies. And already we know this week firms like B.P. of the U.K. have had to cut about 4,000 jobs precisely because of the falling price of oil. And let's take a look at Brent Crude today, as you can see, falling another .8 percent. A lot of nervousness overnight when it hovered just below $30 on the barrel, now we've got analysts, Rosemary, calling the bottom of the barrel at near $20, even $10. Major investment banks coming out with these kinds of predictions

really had a lot of people worried. And I just want to put this into context financially for the markets so far this year. You were mentioning before in your introduction to Andrew that the United States markets have gotten off to their worst start ever, especially the DOW JONES industrial average. What we've seen collectively is $1.2 trillion wiped off the boards so far. If we look at the year-to- date performance of some of these markets, like for instance the CAC, that one as you can see down in excess of 5 percent year to date, London FTSE 100 faring better than many others. But the real biggie is Xetra Dax, later a full reading of Germany.

CHURCH: Definitely some unnerving numbers. We know you'll keep an eye on those European markets throughout the day. Many thanks. Nina Dos Santos joining us live from London.

BARNETT: Now to another big story we've been following for you. Ten U.S. Sailors are freed from Iranian detention. The Obama administration characterized their release as a diplomatic victory.

CHURCH: But video aired on Iranian television is calling the circumstances of the sailors' freedom into question, Jim Sciutto has the details.

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JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: U.S. sailors on their knees, their hands up and behind their heads. This is the moment ten Americans were detained by Iranian revolutionary guards after mistakenly entering Iranian waters.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Iranian patrol boat came out when we were having engine issues and had weapons drawn. So we tried to talk to them until more boats came out and took us in.

SCIUTTO: The sailors spent the night in Iranian custody, fed and given blankets, say Iranian officials, before they were freed early this morning. U.S. officials made clear that Secretary Kerry did not apologize for the incident. But Iranian state TV aired video of what appeared to be an apology by one of the navy crew.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was a mistake that was our fault, and we apologize for our mistake.

SCIUTTO: Tonight, it remains unclear if it was made under duress. At 12:13 p.m. local time, Iranian forces released the American sailors from Farsi Island. The sailors departed on the same two reverie command boats they've been captured on and headed to the USS Anzio, a naval missile cruiser positioned in the Persian Gulf. From the Anzio, the sailors were transferred to the USS Truman aircraft carrier and then flown to shore. Secretary Kerry, who called his Iranian counterpart five times on Tuesday, credited the new diplomatic ties between the two countries for the resolution of a potentially tense standoff. SECRETARY KERRY, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: I think we can all imagine

how a similar situation might have played out three or four years ago. In fact, this kind of issue was able to be peacefully resolved and officially resolved, and that is a testament to the critical role that diplomacy plays in keeping our country safe.

SCIUTTO: But tonight, some are questioning just why U.S. sailors found themselves in this situation in the first place.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My concern is the U.S. navy professional incompetence put these sail in harm's way without giving them a clear exit plan from Iranian territorial waters.

SCIUTTO: I have spoken to U.S. officials, they say they have no confirmation the sailors were taken at gunpoint as one of them said on Iranian state television. The sailors are going to be fully debriefed on Thursday in the region. That is one of the many questions they need to get answered. Jim Sciutto, CNN, Washington.

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CHURCH: And we have been also following breaking news from Jakarta, Indonesia where the city center came under a series of coordinated bombing attacks. And we will take you there live after this very short break. Do stay with us.

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CHURCH: And a warm welcome back to our viewers here in the United States and of course, all around the world. I am Rosemary Church.

BARNETT: And I am Errol Barnett. Let's update you on our top stories right now.

Police say six people, including one foreigner were killed in a series of gun and bomb attacks in Jakarta, Indonesia. CNN Indonesia also says police shot and killed four attackers who carried out the attacks over the past few hours. At this point, there's been no claim of responsibility. We'll have a live report for you coming up.

CHURCH: Trading has been under way for about 30 minutes now in Europe's financial markets. Look at those numbers, the arrows in negative territory. There, London's FTSE down nearly 1 1/2 percent. Similar loss there in Germany and in Zurich and you can see Paris too, lost 1.6 percent. Falling oil prices sent U.S. markets plunging. The DOW fell 364 points Wednesday to close at 16,151. The NASDAQ and S&P were also sharply lower.

BARNETT: There are at least three new multimillionaires in the U.S. The winning combination of the roughly $1.46 billion Powerball lottery was picked just a few hours ago, and it matches tickets sold in the states of California, Tennessee, and in Florida. Those winning numbers are 4, 8, 19, 27, and 34, with the winning Powerball number 10. All right, back to our breaking news. The terror attacks in Jakarta,

Indonesia. CNN Producer Kathy Quiano joins us now live from close to where all of this unfolded. And Kathy, do we have any confirmation that the cause for concern is over yet? And if not, what is the current situation there?

QUIANO: Well, Errol, the chief security minister just spoke to reporters at the site of the explosion, and he confirmed that police authorities have killed five suspects. Two civilians were also killed in the attacks. But he did say that there was still a manhunt on for other terror suspects. He didn't give any details, though on whom the suspects are, where they may be. But we see, though, on this main thoroughfare leading down to the building, they've just opened it to traffic, and we're seeing activities come back to normal here.

Soon, cars and the motorbikes will be allowed down this road. There's some indication that the situation has been secured, and that people are not allowed near the building. But again, as I said, there is a manhunt on for other suspects. There's no indication or no details about that manhunt. He also did say that there were five explosions during the attack and there was a gunfight. One of those explosions may have happened in the Starbucks cafe. But he wouldn't say what kind of explosives were used, although he did say that they were going to wait -- that it might have been a low explosive device were used in the attacks, Errol?

BARNETT: And we do know from Starbucks, who have closed all of their stores in an abundance of caution, that one person was injured as a result of that explosion. So Kathy, you're telling us there the chief security minister saying five suspects have been killed, two civilians died throughout all of this, and there is one suspect still at large. Did the officials mention who they believe could be behind this or who the prime suspects are?

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QUIANO: He wouldn't say. But of course, there were a lot of questions about any groups who might have -- there are some links to ISIS or may have pledged any support to ISIS. He couldn't say for sure who was behind the attacks. But of course, he did say they were looking into all these links and all these possibilities, that there was a manhunt on. And we know there was an ongoing operation. Joint police and military operations against a group that had pledged support to ISIS, operations were across Java and some parts of Jakarta as well, Errol?

BARNETT: And you're referencing there the effort to get the country's most wanted terror leader, Santoso, claiming to be the head of the east Indonesian Mujahideen, and he had claimed an allegiance with ISIS. These are the prime suspects, of course, because the President himself has called this a terror attack before officials have confirmed who they believe to be behind it.

With traffic opening up behind you now, Kathy, does it appear that as far as evidence on the streets you mentioned that the suspects' bodies were removed and taken to hospitals? Has everything returned to normal, I guess where you are? Or are they still collecting evidence?

QUIANO: The police forces are still inside the building for sure, and they're securing that area and they're not allowing anyone in that building so far. Although, the security minister did also say that at 3:00 p.m. local time that people who have been in their offices would be allowed out. That area will be open again to the public. Of course, I am sure people will be curious to see what happened here. But this is a city on the edge right now and I am sure many would also take precautions and stay put, and stay home if they can, Errol?

BARNETT: Yeah, that's understandable. CNN Producer Kathy Quiano who, while this was all unfolding rushed out to the scene and was able to get us close as she is now. With that new information that five suspects were killed, two civilians died in all of this, and one suspect still on the loose. It's just past 3:37 in the afternoon there. Kathy, we will continue to get updates from you in the hours ahead. Thanks very much.

CHURCH: All right. Let's go to Clark Jones now. He is a Former Australian National Security Operative and Counterterrorism Expert. He joins us live from Canberra in Australia. Thank you, sir, for talking with us. As we just learned from our CNN Producer there, Kathy Quiano, we understand police have killed five suspects now and this manhunt continues. What is extraordinary here in the aftermath of these six blasts and this gunfight that took place is just how quickly the security forces, the police moved on this, talk to us about the counterterrorism expertise there in Indonesia, and particularly there in Jakarta.

CLARK JONES, FORMER AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL SECURITY OPERATIVE AND COUNTERTERRORISM EXPERT: Well, I think you've got to look at the previous attacks in Indonesia, and of course the famous Bali bombings where 202 people were killed. There's been a range of attacks in Indonesia, and subsequently there's been lots of international assistance to up-skill the Indonesian national police, as well as their well-known 88, their counterterrorism force. Not only is police being trained by the Australians, by the Americans, by the U.K., but also there have been advancements in intelligence cooperation, intelligence sharing between countries.

There's been a lot of effort to work with Indonesia. And I was involved personally with a lot of the counterterrorism training. I have full confidence the Indonesian authorities will apprehend those who are still at large. What does surprise me about the incident that they were caught by surprise. When you've got more than one attacker and there's a level of organization, obviously information becomes available to the police and to the authorities that helps prevent such an attack.

So what we're seeing around the world, that we're being caught off guard and surprised by low-level, small-scale attacks. Now this may appear more significant, but still, it's a fairly -- type attack with hand grenades and firearms.

CHURCH: But it was well coordinated, though, wasn't it, when you're talking about the coffee shop and the police station there and the shopping mall. And as you say, there was this element of surprise, but the security services had been on high alert because of their fears, this link with the Mujahideen that has links with ISIS. So you're saying that they could have moved faster than what they did then.

JONES: I don't want to be critical. Hindsight is always -- it's always easier in hindsight, I should say, but it does surprise me when there's a level of organization that things are not detected. But as you said, there was warning some weeks ago, and I even say months ago, that Indonesia was likely to experience some sort of attack. Why I am surprised is that some of these perpetrators weren't detected. But it is a very difficult situation when you have some -- I saw the numbers around 150 to 200 that have gone from Indonesia across to Syria and Iraq.

Because the borders in Indonesia and throughout parts of Southeast Asia are very porous, unlike the United States or Australia, it's easy for people to slip out and therefore slip back in again. So I'll be very interested to see where these perpetrators have come from, whether it's a locally developed plot or whether it's come from somewhere else in Southeast Asia, the Philippines, or whether its people have returned back from fighting overseas.

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CHURCH: And of course, at this point there's been no claim of responsibility. So we don't know who's involved exactly. But this seems to be the new norm, doesn't it, across the globe. And perhaps things can be learned from this, but many thanks to Clark Jones, joining us there from Canberra, Australia. Appreciate it.

BARNETT: Please do stay with CNN for much more of our live breaking coverage of the terror attacks in Jakarta, Indonesia. We'll be back with more after this.

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BARNETT: All right. Let's bring you the latest information on the breaking news out of Jakarta, Indonesia.

At least two people have been killed in a series of bomb and gun attacks in the city center. The chief security minister tells CNN that police have killed five of the attackers and a manhunt is underway for any suspects still on the loose. Again, all of this is very fluid. It all just unfolded in the past few hours, so we are updating these numbers for you as we get them.

CHURCH: Yeah, and those numbers could very well change in the coming hours. No one has claimed responsibility, but the country has been on high alert over threats to a terror group linked to ISIS. The country's President calls the attacks an act of terror.

A man has been arrested in connection with the death of an American woman in Italy. That is according to Italian media. But Italian officials have not announced the arrest, and CNN has not independently confirmed it. BARNETT: You're seeing pictures here of 35-year-old Ashley Olsen.

She was found dead inside her apartment on Saturday. Italian media report she was apparently strangled with a cord or a rope. Investigators are also reportedly looking into the idea that she may have been killed during a sex game. CNN Contributor Barbie Nadeau is joining us from Rome, has more on this developing story. And Barbie, what do we know about this new potential suspect and if the victim's boyfriend is completely in the clear yet?

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BARBIE NADEAU, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, in about 15 minutes here local time, we're going to have an announcement by the prosecutor's office in Florence that we assume is going to back up these reports by the Italian media that a man in his 20s was arrested overnight. This man as has been reported, was known to the authorities for various drug offenses and may well have been at the club where Ashley Olsen was last seen the night before she was killed or before she disappeared. We still don't know the time of death.

The last anyone saw her was 3:00 in the morning on Friday and her body was found on Saturday. As far as her boyfriend, no one has been cleared yet entirely according to the prosecutor's office, but if there's an arrest we can assume the boyfriend's alibi as we understood does in fact hold up. He has always been questioned. He has never been named as a suspect in this case. But we're going to have a lot more information the next 15 minutes out of Florence, Errol.

BARNETT: All right. Barbie Nadeau live for us in Rome. Thank you.

CHURCH: Now to a very different story, it is the largest lottery jackpot in history. And we know of at least three winners who will split it, more on the Powerball drawing. That is coming up in just a moment. Stay with us.

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CHURCH: Ok, we have a happy story to report at last. At least three people will split a $1.6 billion lottery jackpot in the United States. The winning numbers match at least three tickets sold in Florida, Tennessee, and California.

BARNETT: Now, in California what you're seeing here are people celebrating at the convenience store that sold a winning ticket. In addition to the big jackpot, at least 12 other tickets sold in California match 5 of the 6 numbers, making them $1 million winners. Here is the announcement being made, those numbers, by the way, for those of you wondering, 8, 27, 34, 4, 19, and the Powerball 10.

CHURCH: Just check your tickets again. And our Sara Sidner, she joins us now from Chino Hills, California where I am guessing you've checked your tickets and you didn't win. But you did get to talk with us, which is fabulous. Now, it looks really quiet behind you, but there was great celebration when they discovered that one of the winning tickets came from there. SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know we were wondering what was

going on. We'd never seen anything like this, all of a sudden this store, this 7-eleven, which did sell the winning ticket here in California for that 1.5 mill-- $1 billion-plus winning jackpot. All of a sudden, people just started showing up from all over the place here in Chino Hills, and they were cheering and they were coming into the store, and there are still people in the store now that cameras are in the store, but there were tons of people just coming in and out of this store.

They were cheering for the store owner, who was here. He will get $1 million just for selling the winning ticket. He also told us that he actually hasn't checked his own tickets yet. But we did have a little bit of a conversation with him because he's a winner too.

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SIDNER: What do you think about the crowd that just showed up here?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I just love them and they love me.

SIDNER: What does this selling the winning ticket mean for you and your store?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's feeling really, really good. And whoever the lucky person come here, thanks for that person.

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SIDNER: He moves to America more than two decades ago to have a better life. He now owns several of these 7-elevens. He's a franchisee. He is just so charming and so happy. And he was cheering with the crowd and they were cheering with him. But we are still not sure, Rosemary and Errol, who the winner is. Do you know they have six months before they have to come forward to be able to claim that ticket? So we might be waiting a little while.

CHURCH: Could be. And of course, the store owner, as he said, he's got a whole lot of new friends now. But that'll be interesting to see because of course, then they have to make the choice are they going to take the whole amount or are they going to get paid over -- well, the rest of their life really. That's a big decision. And a lot of it actually goes to the tax man, doesn't it?

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SIDNER: That's right. It depends on what state you're in. California does have a state tax as well. Florida doesn't, though. So they'll be paying a little bit less in taxes. But it is interesting. If you look at whether to take the lump sum or whether you should take it over the next 20 to 30 years, I don't think it's really going to matter, though, when you're talking about $1.5 billion. I think whatever you take you'll probably be happy with.

CHURCH: I think you're absolutely right there. And you know what's great about this, too is that it was shared around a little bit. I was worried one person was going to win it all, and that just isn't fair at all, is it? Sara Sidner joining us there from a very happy store owner's facilities and we will wait and see when the winners come forward. Thanks so much, Sara. Appreciate it. You can go to bed now.

SIDNER: Sure.

BARNETT: All right. Before we go, we do want to update you on our breaking news, those explosions in Indonesia's capital. Indonesia's President Joko Widodo said the blasts in Jakarta were acts of terror but he urged the country not to surrender to fear. Listen.

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JOKO WIDODO, INDONESIAN PRESIDENT: We condemn these attacks that have disturbed the peace of society, and we want to spread this message to the nation and society. I ordered the authorities to catch those responsible for the attacks and even those out there that are involved in this. We as a country, we should not be frightened by what has happened in this attack. We should stay calm because everything will be under control.

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BARNETT: It is important to stay calm. As far as we know, the latest information, though, five suspects were killed and maybe another suspect on the loose. So still a very fluid situation. And we will have more on all of that at the very top of the hour.

CHURCH: Indeed. That manhunt does continue. We'll keep following that. Thanks for watching us here on CNN. I am Rosemary Church.

BARNETT: And I am Errol Barnett. Remember to connect with us on twitter anytime. It's great to hear from you. Early Start is next for those of you in the states.

CHURCH: And for our viewers elsewhere, do stay tuned for CNN Newsroom. Have a great day.

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