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Aired November 12, 2016 - 19:00   ET


MICHAEL SMERCONISH, CNN HOST: Zero chance. I'm out of time unfortunately. Thank you so much. Tweet me @smerconish. I'll see you next weekend.

[19:00:15] POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: Top of the hour. 7:00 p.m. eastern. You are live in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Poppy Harlow in New York.

We are following major anti-Trump protests now under way in cities across the United States. Thousands are on the streets in New York, Los Angeles, and Indianapolis protesting the future president. This marks the fourth straight night of demonstrations since Trump's victory. We have reporters on the ground with the protestors. You will hear from them in a moment.

But first, the president elect himself answering questions about his social media use in a brand new interview. And while he doesn't plan to give it up, he does promised to be quote "restrained." His campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, is talking tonight as well teasing a huge announcement about Trump's future chief of staff.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you have any sense of the timetable of when a chief of stuff will be announced?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We saw Reince earlier, would he be the one do you expect?

CONWAY: What I think chairman Priebus has expressed interest in the position. There are several people being considered and it is Mr. Trump's decision ultimately.


HARLOW: Imminent is the key word there. What exactly does that mean, let's find out from our Sunlen Serfaty who joins me now in Washington. So, any minute?

SUNLEN SERFATY, NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I don't know if I'm waiting with baited breath tonight or tomorrow, Poppy. Sources telling us still that the time line is potentially as early as Monday. Definitely soon, definitely at some point next week we believe. Certainly we heard from KellyAnne Conway who believe there in that (INAUDIBLE) reporters outside of Trump tower today. She also said it's likely the next time we see Donald Trump publicly is some time in the next couple of days. So that kind of give us a sense of what his time line is. Of course, we know Reince Priebus seems to be the top contender now according to sources. And he is also considering his campaign chair Steve Bannon. And of course, we know about Donald Trump's decision making ability to likes to poll a lot of people, hear from a lot of people, and Trump family, and Paul Ryan, and Mitch McConnell, all seems to be behind Reince Priebus. And Kellyanne Conway is adding in that goggle today. It is his decision ultimately. And Donald Trump is the decision maker on this one.

HARLOW: It is interesting. Sort of like the VP pick, right? I mean, he has sort of his family and insiders pushing him one way towards Mike Pence. He was sort of going another way, and then he came to Mike Pence. Let's see what he does at this one.

Also a new interview, right, that Trump has done with "60 Minutes." And he talks about his use of twitter and social media. What does he say he will do as president?

SERFATY: Yes, that is really fascinating because that's a big question. We all remember his provocative tweets that many points during the campaign. Usually he sent out at all hours of the night from his personal cellphone. And that is something that we wondered if it would carry over to the presidency. Would he be tweeting as the president? And Trump talked about it a little bit in a new clip that just was released from "60 Minutes."


DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'm going to do very restrained if I use it at all, I'm going to do it very restrained. I thought it tremendous. It's a modern form of communication. There should be nothing I should be ashamed of. I do believe this. I really believe that the fact that I have such power in terms of numbers with Facebook, twitter, Instagram, et cetera, I think it helped me win all of these races where they are spending much more money than I spent and I won. I think that social media has more power than the money they spent and I think they did to a certain extent I proved that.


SERFATY: So, that is interesting, right there. Trump really crediting a large part of his win to his use of social media, that it was a very powerful force. But two things really jumped out to me there, Poppy, when he said very restrained on the possibility of using twitter and social media as president. And he said if I use it at all. So that is a big question mark if he is going to hop on tweeter like we saw during the campaign.

HARLOW: Because Sunlen, he would then be tweeting from the potus accountant, right?

SERFATY: That's right. He would be tweeting from the potus account. And certainly, as we have seen in President Obama's account, a lot of these tweets are something that are generated from staff. When they are specifically written by the President Obama, he signs them with a B.O. But certainly, you can understand that there is certain amount of oversight that done with every word on twitter because it is an important form of communications as coming from the president. It is a big question now whether or not Trump would be relegated to the same sort of oversight.

HARLOW: All right, Sunlen Serfaty in Washington. Thank you very much.

And as I said we are monitoring ng the anti-Trump protests developing tonight across major U.S. cities. Our Kyung Lah is live tonight in Los Angeles.

And Kyung, this has been going up for hours there on end. I know at one point when you were with me earlier, it was getting tense in one area, how is it now?

[19:05:02] KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we should explain that yes, it has been going on for about six hours. Six hours since the beginning of the largest part of the market. We are seeing now is a slightly different protest. This is still a protest. This is still an anti-Trump protest. And you could see from the signs here, there is a number of issues that brought them out here. Abortion rights, undocumented immigrants, anti-Muslim bigotry, gay rights. So there is a number of issues that they want to address here. That's what's brought them out here.

But this is a smaller group. We are seeing about 250 maybe 300 people here. But earlier in the day what we saw was something that is pretty rare to see in Los Angeles. There were 8,000 people according to the LAPD that took to the streets. They blocked the streets. They weaved through downtown Los Angeles starting at one park and going all the way to the federal building. It was something quite extraordinary. The people who were there were families, people across incomes, across the city of Los Angeles. They came to march to show their displeasure with what has happened in the election.

So what we are seeing now is a lightly different crowd. What I want to point out to way up there, Poppy, if you can. You can see the LAPD. What they have been trying to do is coral the protestors. Right now we are in front of city hall here in Los Angeles. And there have not been any arrests. There have not been any major confrontations. They had some slight confrontations and yelling with some of the police officers. But nothing major, something that Los Angeles has seen almost every single night here since the election are arrest last night. There were 187 people that were arrested by the LAPD. They are hoping to avoid that this evening, Poppy.

HARLOW: All right, Kyung Lah live for use in Los Angeles. Thank you so much, Kyung. And let me bring in my panelists to talk about all of this. Robert

Jones is with us. He is CEO and founder of the Public Religion Research Institute, wrote a fascinating opinion piece this week. Alice Stewart is with us, CNN political commentator, a Republican strategist and Ted Cruz's former communications director, and Marc Lamont Hill is with us, a CNN political commentator, host of the "ET News" and a professor Morehouse.

Nice to have you all with us. Marc, I have not seen you in a while on the show. I'm glad you are

back. And let me just dive in with this question because in August you said, look, the left can afford to lose this election but cannot afford to lose its values. As you watch people on the left take to the streets tonight and protest the new president, how do you think the energy can eventually be turned into effective change?

MARC LAMONT HILL, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, I think it reminds people that our vitress, solutions to our problems won't just come through voting. It won't just come through partisanship. It also happens on the streets. So the most found changes on lives of the citizen whether its voting rights, when there is public accommodation. All of it, it all comes from people who are going to the streets and voicing their concern and their criticism. So I'm glad to see people doing that right now.

We lost the battle in a sense to see Donald Trump as president. But they are the bigger was going on. And that is the war for justice. It was for a productive freedom. A war for gay and lesbian right. We can win that war if we take to the streets to organize and to also plan for 2018 and 2020 as well.

HARLOW: Alice, is it a war for those things? Because, you know, I think we don't know how Donald Trump will govern, right. If you think back to one of my colleagues sort of fascinating piece today quoting (INAUDIBLE) and they wrote what he said about Russia. And he said a riddle wrap in a mystery inside of enigma. And some would say that is like how many people feel right now they have Donald Trump may govern because he said so many converse things. He was on both sides of it during the campaign on some of these issues. And he has already, for example, talked publicly about how he may leave some parts of Obamacare as they are. Something very different than we heard on the campaign trail.

ALICE STEWART, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, I think we can start off by looking at some of the issues that the protestors are saying. One of them is he is not my president. Well, we heard Donald Trump say the other night, he wants to be a president for all of America including those people who are out there on the streets. And he wants to unify the country. Even Hillary Clinton said we need to have an open mind and give him the benefit of the doubt as he leaves.

And while many of us disagree with some of the things he said or the things that we believe he is going to do, he is all of our president. And we have to give him a chance to succeed or in some cases fail on some of these issues. And what we have already seen with regard to his campaigning vehemently on repealing and replacing Obamacare, we are already seeing signs of him making deals and working too by partisan cooperation, I think he surprise a lot of people who have been critical. He may be a little more lenient than we may have thought going into this.

HARLOW: Right. Just suddenly many people has campaigned differently than they eventually govern.

Robert, let me read part of your opinion piece in the Times from this week. Hillary Clinton's final campaign as featured Katy Perry's song "Roar," but the loudest voice of this election turned out to be not the new American demographic groups of Latinos, African-Americans and millennials, but Mr. Trump's ageing and raging white Christian supporters.

Ageing and raging, why do you put it that way?

[19:10:01] ROBERT JONES, CEO/FOUNDER, PUBLIC RELIGION RESEARCH INSTITUTE: You know, one of the remarkable things has happened during Barack Obama's presidency, you know, he was the symbol of kind of new America. He was the first African-American president. But we have gone through enormous demographic changes just over the last two elections cycles. One of the biggest ones has really gone under the radar and this is really the theme of my book which I called the end of white Christian America, is that we really have shifted from being a majority white Christian nation of 54 percent in 2008 when Barack Obama first ran as president to being a minority white Christian nation in the country. Only 43 percent of Americans today identify as white and Christian. That is an enormous change. We are now seeing the first cohort of public school students of being majority non- white. Those, you know, sense of (INAUDIBLE) that Barack Obama was elected, predicted the 2050 would be the first year that America would be a majority non-white country.

And there is one clue before the election. We had our last at PRI, our last pre-election survey in mid-October, we asked this question that I think it really goes to the heart of the election. I think of this election really it is a white-nostalgia election where it really was a vision of it is 2050 or 1950 was the vision of the country. And we asked this question, you know, has America change for the better or change for the worse since the 1950s. And the two parties are mirror images of each other. Two thirds of Democrats say it changed for the better. Two-thirds of Republicans say it changed for the worse. And if you look at some of the base groups that has even starter, three quarters of white evangelical Protestants who gave Trump 81 percent of their votes, say it has changed for the worst. And about three quarters of the African-Americans say it has changed for the better. So we are deeply, deeply divided country. And I think that is what is fuelling with these two very different visions of who the country should be, that's what is really fuelling I think these protest.

HARLOW: Alice, I have one minute. Your response to that. Do you think this was a white nostalgia vote?

STEWART: I think this was a vote as we have seen from exit polls. Seven in ten people want a change. And more than anything, Hillary Clinton represented more of the same and Donald Trump represented change. And I think that is what we are seeing at the bottom line. And I am, with regard to the evangelical vote, I am pleasantly surprise with galvanizing and rallying behind Donald Trump. For more than anything, they really want a president who will appoint conservative Supreme Court justices which he has committed to doing. And I think that was a big rallying cry for evangelicals. So I think it was more of a vote for change than anything else.

HARLOW: All right, guys, stay with me, Marc, Alice and Robert.

We are going to take a quick break in. We will discuss more after this. Stay with us.


[19:15:50] HARLOW: All right, we are back with my panel as we continue to follow two developing stories tonight. One, thousands of protest, anti-Trump protest in several cities across America - Los Angeles, Indianapolis as you saw right there, and New York. This is the fourth night a row of protests.

Also news tonight that president elect Trump could very soon announce his choice for chief of staff.

My panel is back with me. Alice Stewart is with us. Also with us is Marc Lamont Hill and Robert Jones.

Marc, let me begin with you. When you look at sort of what is next for the Democrats, do Democrats have a role in addressing what is happening on the streets of America, right? A number of people, pundits have come out and say well, Donald Trump should directly address them, may meet with them. What about Democrats like you, should they have a voice in this?

HILL: Yes, the Democratic Party. But I think -

HARLOW: I'm sorry.

HILL: No worries. But everybody, I would take the same position for myself as a dream party member of Democrats and anybody who didn't vote for Donald Trump, I think we all have a responsibility to help shape and challenge this democracy. Donald Trump has an obligation to meet with the folks on the ground and talk to them particularly if he is talking about healing this nation. But we have a responsibility, Democrats, dream party, reform party, libertarian or who you are, we have a responsibility as well. One responsibility is to talk and listen to Donald Trump, is to challenge him on policy.

But we also have responsibility on the ground. We can't forget that. You know, it is sort of bizarre to hear, you know, liberals talk about, my God, Donald Trump is a monster. He is a factious. He is the worst thing that you have seen since World War II. And the day after they're like, I'm open to working with the worst thing that has ever happened since the World War II.

You know, it is like, either we are lying before or we are lying now. If he is a bit of a monster as we suggested, then we have to use tactics that are not just in the political system. We have to take to the ground, we have to organize, we have to activists, we have to do that work. So yes, we have to listen, we have to talk. And one more thing, Democrats, I think, particularly given their position to Congress, have to make it very clear and articulate position about where they stand. Harry Reid has already done that. Harry Reid said I'm not ready to be conciliatory yet.

HARLOW: Let me read for our viewers because I have here what Harry Reid said. Senate minority leader who by the way is on his way out but he said in the statement, the election of Donald Trump has embolden the forces of hate and bigotry in America.

And to you, Robert, let me ask you about this, because you just wrote this opinion piece about being the divide win America right now, right? And there is an upcoming KKK parade scheduled to celebrate Trump's victory in North Carolina. And the North Carolina Republican Party has condemned it. Should Donald Trump come out publicly and specifically talk about this planned event and condemn it?

JONES: Well, I think there is no doubt. I mean, there is a responsibility, you know, for any president to denounce hate and bigotry in our country. And I think that is a no brainer from Republican, Democrat, Dream party, whoever, you know. And I think this one of the real challenges that, you know we do have more voices like this popping up, coming out. And I think one of the things that Donald Trump could do as president here is, you know, remember that this is a closely divided election with Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote. Donald Trump winning the Electoral College. You know, it means that he has got, you know, half the country in a really different place. It is for policies.

And it is also important to remember that, you know, some things like building a wall, this has never had majority support of Americans. And so when he sort of enters into a governing state and this isn't really about getting up the support from the most base, the base of his party, I really think this is kind of reaching across the aisle and remembering, a, a responsibility that he has as president, that he may not - quite had as candidate and certainly has as president looms really large.

And so, I think these are realities of the responsibilities of the president of the United States. You know, one of the biggest believe pulpits in the world, is just enormous here.

HARLOW: Alice, should Donald Trump invite some of the protesters? They are literally standing outside of Trump tower, should he open the doors, invite them up, meet with them, open a dialogue?

[19:20:01] STEWART: I think it would be a great gesture if there was an organized meeting with the people who are planning these protests. And whether or not it was Donald Trump or his staff, the top people in his campaign or certainly in this new administration. I think that would be key.

Clearly, what we are seeing is these protests across the country, they are very well organized, and they are very well attended and they are working with the police in order to keep them moving and do things properly, and fairly and without violence. So I think that is good. I think if they stick together with some of the leaders from the Trump team, I think that would go a long way.

But also, with regard to what to do moving forward, I think it is imperative for the DNC to go ahead and get a new head of the DNC as quickly as possible. To get some structure and organization over on that side. And also tell these protestors, I think they are voices are much stronger heard if they reach out to their members of Congress in their areas and push their ideas on their Democratic or whatever members of their congressional delegation to affect change in Washington. That's the best way they are going to go about making change in Washington when we have a Republican president and Republican controlled house and Senate may appeal to their individual members. I think that will go a long way, too.

HARLOW: Marc, you have one minute left, but I read someone who wrote, who is a Republican and a Trump supporter who wrote essentially, remember when we were on the streets protesting in 2008 and 2012 when Barack Obama won the presidency, no, neither do I, we waited eight years and we protested at the voting booth. Your response.

HILL: They have fuzzy memories. The tea party didn't get started last week. The tea party was started right after Barack Obama was president and they said it was a fiscal responsibility. They say it was to change the direction of America. People hit the streets immediately. The outrage wasn't as big as it is right now, I agree. But that's because the election was not as contested as this was. It was contentious, too divisive as this one was.

But people on the right took to the streets immediately and they had every right to do so. I didn't like to see the president burning of the effigy. I didn't like to see the racism that I saw in many of the signs and rallies. But most people who are protesting Barack Obama --

HARLOW: You are seeing that now frankly in model of, you know, Donald Trump being burned.

HILL: I was going to say most people were protesting the president's policy, not Barack Obama as a person. Similarly most people are protesting Donald Trump the figure, Donald Trump the politician now, Donald Trump the president in waiting, not him as a person.

HARLOW: I'm getting the wrap. Important conversation. Thank you all for being part of it marc, Alice and Robert. Appreciate it.

STEWART: Thank you.

JONES: Thank you.

HARLOW: Coming up, there is one man Donald Trump has talked about more than anyone when it comes to making great dealing, his name Carl Icahn. He is a billionaire activist, investor. You will hear from him next candidly on where he agrees and disagrees with Donald Trump.

Stay with us. You are live in the CNN NEWSROOM. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

[19:26:35] HARLOW: Welcome back. While Donald Trump and his supporters were celebrating on Tuesday night, the DOW futures were plummeting. And Carl Icahn was doing what he has done for decades, making backs on the market. The billionaire investor was at the Trump election night party, but left early when he saw future Dow nearly 900 points and started buying stock. Of course, market bounced back the next morning. And as mentioned nice game for Carl Icahn. He has been described as one of Trump's biggest supporters on Wall Street. He joins me now on the phone.


HARLOW: Thank you for being with me, sir. I appreciate it. And let's just jump right in. You have said that Trump's election has put a very important thing for our economy in general. What is the single most important thing that President Trump can do for this economy?

CARL ICAHN, ACTIVIST BILLIONAIRE (on the phone): Yes. I think you need to stimulate this economy and it certainly can't exist on the Federal Reserve as, you know, keep (INAUDIBLE) zero. I think to begin with, and while you need regulation, there is no question about that. We are way overregulated. You know, a lot of these regulatory agencies such the EPA have just gone off the reservation.

And if you have too much regulation in a free enterprise society, you don't get investments. And CEO's are afraid to invest. So when we talk about the question of why we don't have productivity, the answer is you don't have investment in machinery at the factories. And as a result, you do not have productivity. We are afraid to invest but a lot of the money that you take advantage of or CEO will take advantage of at zero interest right now put back into buy back stock. Therefore, we have that problem.

HARLOW: Let me ask you this, because you said and you have said though that Wall Street needs regulation, and that you don't want to dismantle Dodd-Frank. Congressman Jeb Hensarling's name has been floated right now as a potential treasury secretary, picky chairman of the house of financial services committee, and he outlined priorities for Congress under President Trump. Listen to this.


REP. JEB HENSARLING (R), TEXAS: Fundamental tax reform, repeal and replace Dodd-Frank. That will get the economy working for working people. It will mean small businesses will thrive, consumers will once again have choices. Will get rid of the bank bailouts. Nothing can say economic growth quite like fundamental tax reform and repealing and replacing Dodd-Frank.


HARLOW: So he says repeal and replace Dodd-Frank? Would that be a mistake?

ICAHN: Who was that, congressman who?

HARLOW: That was Hensarling. That was Congressman Jeb Hensarling, a name being floated for treasury secretary. I mean, would repealing Dodd-Frank a mistake?

ICAHN: We have to look at - we would all respect I just don't agree with that last part. I agree with everything he said pretty much. That you have to get rid of a lot of these regulatory craziness, but I do not think repealing Dodd-Frank is an answer because I will tell | that in 2008 it happened because, I'm not talking against a lot of my friend. I think they are going to be angry of my saying this. But a lot of the problem that we had in 2008 was a result of not having some of our investment banks as regulated. And they were selling products that shouldn't be sold.

So I'm not going to get into the nitty-gritty of it. I'm not going to disagree with the congressman on most of everything he said because we agree that you have to get rid of a lot of regulation. And you have to stimulate investment. One way is to lower taxes. But a better way which Trump is doing but I think it is a little known fact, this increasing the ability to depreciate. In other words, having a one year depreciation rate, and having you be able to sell a (INAUDIBLE) goods and manufacturing capital spending and they will invest say in a factory or say in automobile or say in a realtor. You can sell to the third party and that the party can depreciate it.

[19:30:33] HARLOW: Do you think that, Carl, when I mean, Trump has said all these things he wants to lower taxes across the board, you know, lowering certainly corporate taxes down to 15 percent and he is betting on four percent economic growth year on year to do that. (INAUDIBLE) Warren Buffet told me this week is not realistic and Trump says this plan is going to be deficit, mutual, tax policies that are comes out and says no way. It is going to add 20 trillion to the debt over 20 years. I mean, what do you say?

ICAHN: I'm not a tax expert. I am a market expert. And I think what Trump is saying will stimulate in the long run, markets, because it will stimulate the economy. I am not going to argue with pundits that say, you know, it might not have the GDP growth exactly to the extent that Trump is saying it. And I'm not going to argue with that.

But I am going to tell you that we kept going along with the eight years that we have. We have not stimulated our economy because we are not stimulated spending. Hillary Clinton said, you know, we must unleash the great power, economic power of our companies to spend money. They are not spending money. This is what job to do. I'm looking at the broad picture. I'm looking at --

HARLOW: So as you look at the broad picture, you are the man that Donald Trump has cited more than any other on the economy, on the market. During the campaign, you said you are not the right guy for treasury secretary. You said not interested. But now it is president elect Trump. So if he pick up the phone, he calls you, what do you say? You accept that position?

ICAHN: I have said all along that, you know, I'm not going to Washington. My personality is such - I never work for any one in my life and that is not going to start now. But I think there are better people that can go into Washington, work with the establishment there, and be the secretary of treasury and I'm certainly not that person.

HARLOW: Let me ask you this. As recently as September, Donald Trump said that Fed chair Janet Yellen should be quote "ashamed of herself." He accused the fed of keeping interest rates low and bound to political pressure in doing so. As you know, the fed is an institution hence being independent, do you agree with Trump on that? And who would you like to see follow Janet Yellen when her term ends in 2018?

ICAHN: OK, just a couple questions here. One, I of certainly not going to criticize Janet Yellen. However, I agree with Trump on what he is saying generally. You can't keep an economy going at zero interest rates because it builds bubbles. It builds huge asset bubbles such as real estate. Such in all odd if you will. And therefore, you must have fiscal stimulus which we really don't have. Most importantly stimulate business to invest. That's what we did after World War II. A lot of people after World War II thought that the economy was going to go into a depression. It did not because government stimulated business.

Today it is perceived, a wildly perceived in many respects, that the government is at war with business. And when you have that business says OK, the hell with it. I will just use my betting to buy back spot at the CEO bench-rich (ph). Therefore, this is what must happen. And I don't really blame Janet Yellen because what else could she do?

HARLOW: You don't think the fed being political like he has said.

ICAHN: You know, I don't know. I'm not a Washington guy. I told you I wouldn't go to Washington.

HARLOW: We heard you don't want to go to Washington.

ICAHN: I'm not criticizing Janet Yellen, but I do agree with Donald.


HARLOW: We are going to have more of my interview with Carl Icahn next hour. Stay with us for that.

Coming up ahead for us here, candidate Donald Trump said all along his path to victory was through the rust belt states. So what do the voters in these states who supported him now want to see from president Trump? We will hear directly from them. Out martin Savidge reports next.


[19:27:59] HARLOW: Voters in the rust belt paved Donald Trump's path to the White House. He took Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, three states that had not voted for a Republican since the 1980s. He also flipped Ohio who voted for President Obama in 2012, so what do the voters in the rust belt want Trump to focus on? Here is our Martin Savidge.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These illegal moochers are next who are come in, (INAUDIBLE) all the illegal --.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): If president elect Donald Trump looking to organize his to do list once he seat in the White House, he might want to give a listen to the callers at station 570WKBN in Youngstown.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We need to get people back to work.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Jobs, jobs, jobs.

SAVIDGE: This used to be prime Democrats area. But as the manufacturing jobs disappear and business has closed, many here, like their factories, turned rusty red, crossing over to Trump.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would like to see him address the health care problem.

SAVIDGE: Caller after caller added on to what they want their president to do.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Social security. We have not gotten a raise in seven years.

SAVIDGE: Most want the new administration to focus on immigration.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Send Mexico an estimated bill for the wall.

SAVIDGE: Get rid of Obamacare, bring back jobs, and if possible --


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go after and indict Hillary Clinton.

SAVIDGE: At the Royal Oats (ph), Youngstown's oldest watering hall, I talked across the bar with more celebrating Trump backers.

JIM NOVICKY, TRUMP SUPPORTER: I expected this. I was very confident in the election.

SAVIDGE: Jim Novicky has been a Democrat all his life until now.

What do you want to see Donald trump do first?

NOVICKY: I would personally I would like to see him do is pick a great cabinet. He has got a big job there.

SAVIDGE: Dave Vogle says the same thing. Trump needs to surround himself with the right people.

DAVE VOGEL, REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR HILLARY CLINTON: I want to see the cabinet. I think he will be a CEO on kind of sit there and let the cabinet do all the work. That's what I think. And then I want to see who is they are going to pick for the Supreme Court.

[19:40:00] SAVIDGE: Filling the Supreme Court is also near the top of any wish list. But it isn't long before we are back to "the wall."

NOVICKY: One of the first priorities I would say let's secure our borders. I want this to be a country wall.

SAVIDGE: Build a wall?

NOVICKY: Build the wall, yes. But that is to me that is rhetorical term. Building wall doesn't mean brick and mortar, OK?

SAVIDGE: You hear that a lot about, the wall, Trump has spoken so much about. To many Trump voters, is not really a wall at all. Where is that? Build it, don't build it? It is a real wall. It is not a real wall.

AL SALATA, TRUMP SUPPORTER: Yes. I don't know where there actual physical wall is the thing to do. I think there is probably other ways that he can curve some of it that is coming in.

SAVIDGE: Which brings us back to another favorite things, Obamacare.

NOVICKY: I would get rid of it and start over, you have to come up with something. You have to take care of people who can't take care of themselves. Everybody knows that.

SAVIDGE: But you can't talk to Trump voters without talking about something else, all those protestors.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You hasn't even given a guy a chance yet.

SAVIDGE: Most I talk to don't believe the demonstrations are spontaneous anger that are organize.

NOVICKY: This is the government. They want chaos. They want anarchy. And they are going to give it to us. This is just the beginning. This is just the beginning.

SAVIDGE: And about those protest, many Trump voters I spoke said they really find them disrespectful. Disrespectful of the office of president and also very disrespectful of the outcome of the election. After all they say, in 2008 when Barack Obama was elected president, did Republicans take to the streets?

Martin Savidge, CNN, Youngstown, Ohio.


HARLOW: Important to hear the voice of the voter.

Marty Savidge, thank you so much for that. Much more from Marty tomorrow night at the program.

Up next, though for us, twin boys once joined at the head are now sleeping in separate beds. Wait until you see these twin who endured a rare 27 hour surgery a month ago. New details on how well their recovery is going now. Sanjay Gupta with me now next.


[19:45:44] HARLOW: Well, last month, we brought you the story of what many would call, frankly, a miracle. Two twin boys, Jadon and Anias, joined at the head. And for their parents, a gut wrenching decision of whether or not to surgically separate them. Take a look.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You make the craziest faces.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You want to read them a book?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What matters in the end is that they love each other.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When we had the boys, of course, they were normal little boys. And just like a two, you know, any other two little babies you would see, they were - except for being conjoined.

NICOLE MCDONALD, MOTHER OF CONJOINED TWINS: I could almost just keep them like this right now, you know, because they are so perfect.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're normal little boys.

MCDONALD: They are beautiful. They are perfect. They are so funny and they are happy, you know? They are crazy. Crazy. Jadon tries to roll off of the bed and drag Anias with him. Anias talk. And he can, my favorite things is to say and hear them talking with each other down the hall the way they talk back and forth and they, you know, they are just - they are beautiful.


HARLOW: Our chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta was with the boys' parents every step of the way during their 27 hour surgery. It's now been one month since that happened. And Sanjay joins us now with a update.

I am just - can't wait to hear how they are doing because this was a 27 hour surgery. That alone was harrowing enough, the recovery though is a really, really long road, but there is some good news, right from their neurosurgeon? How are they doing?

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, there is good news. And I'm so happy to be able to tell you that. You know, this is a rare operation as you pointing out, a challenging operation for anybody. Twenty seven hours on 13 month old little babies. Very challenging.

But they are doing well, Poppy. They are off of the breathing machine. There was some concerns initially might they have weakness on one side of the body. That period of moving both sides of their bodies well. There was concerns about seizures which have been very well controlled. They are sleeping in separate beds. And I know that's not a medical diagnosis. But you know, it was what it was all about. And I don't know if we get Christian who you just saw briefly there, their father, when they wheeled Jadon up from the operating room first after being separated, and he said that's my boy. And he never said that's my boy before. He would always said that was my boys. And it was powerful. But they are doing well. The hope is they will be able to get out of the hospital and get into a rehab facility.

Dr. Goodrich, as you saw briefly there, we have been speaking to him all along. This is how he put, it.


DR. JAMES GOODRICH, LEAD NEUROSURGEON: Certainly from the point of view of recovery, they have been both right on target if not ahead of schedule.


GUPTA: He is one of the world's leading experts, and it is such a rare thing. He has done more than half a dozen of operations, but he is very, very pleased with the progress.

HARLOW: You know, and this surgery is so rare, it is has only been done 59 times since 1952. The surgeons, I understand, actually, Sanjay, found a greater challenge, right? They modelled all of this but then when they actually started with the surgery they realized their brains were more fused than they thought. Overall, how did the surgeons think the operation went?

GUPTA: Well, it is really the point in how it went at the time versus now, we obviously know that things are progressing really well. This is the model, by the way. Let me just show you, Poppy, quickly because it gives you indications just the remarkable technology. This is the boys' heads fused together. You can even look inside and see what is in the blood vessels, which are the bog concerns in term of separations are like.

And during the operation, even from the time the model was created to the time of the operation, the boys are still growing. The skulls and the brains are still fusing. So they saw more fusing they expected. And there was a point Dr. Goodrich thought we may not be able to accomplish this. We may not be actually successfully separate the boys. Dr. Tepper, who is a cranial facial surgeon, who was also big part of the separation procedure. We talked to him specifically about that, take a listen.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel relieved at this point. I think there was a lot of concern, obviously going in. We knew this is going to be a big under taking. And I think things went as well as we could have hoped at this point.

(END VIDEO CLIP) [19:50:07] GUPTA: So, you know, again the part that he was most concern about, I think everyone was, and it was the longest part of the operation, was separating the blood vessels, trying to figure out. It is like a spaghetti. They are trying to figure out who are Jadon's, who are Anias' and how to successfully separate them while leaving their brains relatively untouched.

HARLOW: I was reading all these doctors' firsthand accounts on last night, Sanjay. And I just couldn't help but think these are miracle workers. And there are still a lot of -- there's a long road ahead, right, for these boys, because I remember you telling me right after the surgery, one of them is facing more complications than the other, right? So what's next?

GUPTA: Yes. There's always what is called a dominant twin and a non- dominant twin. And as you may guess, a non-dominant twin typically has the greater challenges. But - and that's Anias in this case. And that's what they are looking after more so. But what is next again because of the good news so far is to get him out of the intensive care unit and then go to a rehabilitation facility.

Look, Poppy. You know, because you are going through this now as a mom. But you know, these boys at 13 months old, they never crawled. They never walked. They never sat up. They never did the things that you watched your baby do. This is a rebirth for them. In fact, Dr. Goodrich says they have a second birthday. So rehab for them is going to be learning to do all the things that they should have been doing the first year and a half of life. So that is what is going to be next for them. And the signals are very favorable.

I also want to say, you know, all the whole team as you mentioned, I mean, you know, this was a gigantic team of people, the nurses, the technicians, people who create these models, the radiologists, there was 40 people, 50 people sometime in the room at one time who are all so invested in this, doing something that very few people have never done.

HARLOW: Yes. It is remarkable to see. And I am so, so glad that it is going so well for these boys and for the family right now.

Sanjay, thank you.

All right, we will be right back.


[19:55:41] HARLOW: Well the election may be over, but the jokes are not. Comedians found plenty to work with this week. Take a look.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For about 90 minutes, they were only supposed to meet for like 15 minutes but Trump had a lot of the questions for Obama, like how the hell do I get out of this?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trump wasn't alone. Future first lady Milania was there for a private meeting with Michelle Obama to ensure the peaceful transition of speeches.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course a lot of people are unhappy with the election. In fact, there were large anti-Trump protests in the streets of at least seven cities last night including right here in New York. Trump looked out his window from 60 stories up and said, a parade already? That's fantastic. That is unbelievable.


HARLOW: Ahead in our next hour a fourth straight day of anti-Trump protests as thousands form at the streets of American cities, a nation clearly divide. We will have a live report, straight ahead.

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