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Obama Returns from Last Foreign Trip of Presidency; Nearly 300 Killed in Eastern Aleppo Bombardment; At Least 133 Killed in India Train Derailment; Many Living in East Aleppo Want to Leave But Can't; Starvation Threatens Northeastern Nigeria. Aired 1-2a ET

Aired November 21, 2016 - 01:00   ET

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[01:00:00] NATALIE ALLEN, CNN ANCHOR: An international farewell, U.S. President Barack Obama holds his final news conference abroad and weighs in on his successor.

CYRIL VANIER, CNN ANCHOR: Knocked out of the running, Nicolas Sarkozy bid that due to his chances for another term as France's president.

ALLEN: Plus, the grim normalcy in Aleppo, why some Syrians choose to face the violence, instead of trying to get out. It's all ahead here on this hour on CNN NEWSROOM. Thanks for joining us. I'm Natalie Allen.

VANIER: And I'm Cyril Vanier. CNN NEWSROOM starts right now.

Barack Obama is returning to Washington after completing the final foreign trip of his presidency.

ALLEN: During his visit to Greece, Germany and Peru, much of the attention was on his successor, President-elect Donald Trump. As Athena Jones reports, one area of major concern is international trade.

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ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: President Obama in his last press conference on the last leg of his last international trip as president, once again, made the case for trade deals. Deals like the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal one. His successor, President- elect Donald Trump, opposes. President Obama said that deals like TPP high standard deals are important and benefit the U.S. They allow America to help write the rules of the road when it comes to trade. And he said that absent U.S. engagement in such deals, it allows other countries. Countries like China to step in and fill the void, the right rules of the road that do not benefit American companies.

The president also spoke more broadly about the need for continued U.S. engagement on the world stage, calling the U.S. an indispensable nation when it comes to dealing with global issues. Of course, the president was also asked about domestic politics. He was asked specifically about potential conflicts of interest that President- elect Trump could face because of his business dealings. And while President Obama declined to respond directly with that question, he did talk about how he approached the issue when he was elected president.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We made a decision to liquidate assets that might raise questions about how it would influence policy. I basically had our account put all our money in treasury bills. Bills, by the way, have not been massive, over the course of the last eight years. Just because it's simplified, my life, I did not have to worry about the complexities of whether the decision that I made might even inadvertently benefit me.

JONES: The president also said it was important to him to follow not just the letter of the law, but the spirit of the law in order to avoid any potential ethics issue. It was one area out of many, where the president provided a bit of indirect advice to his successor, as he wrapped up this his last press conference, a wide ranging press conference as his last major international trip as president. Back to you.

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ALLEN: Athena Jones there. While in Peru, Mr. Obama also said he's not optimistic about Syria in the short term.

VANIER: Mr. Obama met briefly with his Russian counterpart, Vladimir Putin, that was on the sidelines of the summit. He said, Ukraine and Syria's conflict did come up in their discussion but that allegations of Russian influence in the U.S. election did not.

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OBAMA: The issue of the elections did not come up because that's behind us and I was focused in this brief discussion on moving forward. I'd already made very clear to him, our concerns around cyber-attacks, generally, as well as specific concerns we had surrounding the DNC hack.

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ALLEN: Meantime in the U.S., the President-elect, Mr. Trump has another likely cabinet pick to announce soon. The source close to the transition says, billionaire investor Wilbur Ross, is being considered for Commerce Secretary.

VANIER: CNN's Phil Mattingly has more on two other high profile meetings that Trump held on Sunday.

PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was a weekend of marathon meetings, meeting after meeting, cabinet potential official, after cabinet potential and some advisers in there as well. But it really was all about reading the tea leaves, trying to get a sense of who will fill out the top positions in the Trump administration. The president-elect (INAUDIBLE) the door, greeting every single one of his visitors. But on Sunday, there's a key focus on two individuals, Chris Christie and Rudy Giuliani.

[01:04:55] Obviously, the former, one of the most important early endorsements of Donald Trump's campaign, who was fall on a favor in recent weeks and has actually been removed as the head of his transition team and all of his top allies have gone as well, leaving a lot of question as to whether or not Chris Christie will actually have a job in the Trump administration, all signs right now reporting to, no.

Not so much for Rudy Giuliani, though, the former New York Mayor, also a very close confidant, adviser, aide to the president-elect throughout the campaign. He's been angling for a Secretary of State job. We asked the president-elect if that's what he's looking at the mayor for. Take a listen.

A little bit of a hedging there. Maybe some other positions that he may be looking at. And this is all coming in the wake of Saturday's meeting with former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, 2012 presidential nominee, who we were told very definitively, is under consideration for that state job. But I am told from Trump advisers is, Donald Trump is very intrigued by the idea, the perception of what it would mean to have Mitt Romney in his administration, particularly in the wake of their 14, 15, 16-month battle back and forth. So it will be very interesting to see how that all plays out.

One key thing to keep an eye on as this week goes on, starting today, there will be a focus on economic jobs, the economic transition landing teams, landing at all the agencies throughout the day, then domestic policy as well. Obviously, we're all keeping a very close eye on who the next big cabinet appointments will be. Trump advisers, some are coy about that. But definitely making clear announcements will be made soon.

ALLEN: Phil Mattingly reports there. Not all of Trump's picks will require senate confirmation. That includes Trump's National Security Adviser. He has picked -- he has picked Retired Army Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, as you know for that post, by avoiding confirmation hearings. Flynn will not be publicly grilled over some questionable things he has said in the past.

VANIER: In particular about this Tweet from February, which has received a lot of attention, Flynn wrote "Fear of Muslims is rational, please forward this to others." CNN asked incoming White House Chief of Staff, Reince Priebus whether Flynn's view will become policy in the Trump administration.

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REINCE PRIEBUS, INCOMING WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF: I think in some cases, there are radical members of that religion that need to be dealt with but certainly, we make it clear that that's not a blanket statement for everyone, and that's how we're going to lead. I mean, these are -- you know, when you think about immigration policy in that regard with President-elect Trump has said is that, where systematic terrorism is taking place, where countries are harboring or in places where countries are harboring and training terrorists, we're going to temporary suspend that immigration from that country or region, until a better vetting system is put in place.

This is similar to many bills that are right now sitting in the house and the senate that either can't pass or the president won't sign. So, our policies are going to be very similar to the policies that are in place that are ready to get passed, and what president-elect Trump has already articulated.

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VANIER: Flynn's views on Syria are also noteworthy because of the U.S. involvement in that crisis, of course. As Trump's National Security Adviser, he may hold sway over how the new administration chooses to deal with Syria. A poison gas attack in 2013 is one example of Flynn's contrarian views on that region.

ALLEN: While the Obama administration, NATO and others have put the blame squarely on the Syrian regime, Flynn has been more circumspect. He admits he doesn't know who carried out that attack. But he has suggested, it might have been a ploy by the rebels or others, so- called false flag to draw the U.S. into the conflict.

VANIER: Meanwhile, let's look at what's happening in Syria right now, and more specifically in Aleppo. Activists say a barrel bomb laced with chlorine gas, killed a family of six, in the eastern parts of the city on Sunday. About 300 people have been killed since Syrian government forces resumed heavy bombardment on rebel-held areas, and that happened -- that started again on Tuesday of this week.

ALLEN: Rescuers say it is the worst bombing since the civil war began, more than five years ago. CNN's Jomana Karadsheh has more on the devastating toll. This is taking on civilians. And we warn you, some of the video in this report is disturbing.

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JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: This father, in disbelief, in denial that his teenaged son is gone. They tried to wake him up, refusing to hand Acmed over to be placed in a body bag. He finally agrees but clings onto his boy's breathless body. I swear he's breathing he says. The anguish of one father, one family, out of hundreds who buried their loved ones, in what seems to be a never ending cycle of grief, death and destruction in Eastern Aleppo. The Syrian regime unleashing a devastating new wave of aerial bombardment this past week.

[01:09:57] Syrian state media says, this is a preliminary operation that includes a ground push onto Eastern Aleppo. They described this as being part of a zero hour operation, going after so-called terrorist groups across the country.

Backed by the military muscle of Russia, the Syrian regime seems to be on the offensive in other parts of the country as well. In this conflict with no red lines, schools on both sides of the front line had been hit. Hospitals targeted, leaving a desperately needed health sector in Eastern Aleppo tethering on the edge of complete collapse. The month-long siege taking its toll on the quarter of a million residents. Aid groups are warning of mass starvation as everything they have is running out. ABD ULNASIER IBRAHIM, CIVILIAN ACTIVIST: There is no more water, no more food and we are maybe -- we are going to a lack of food and everything, and electricity and foods and water. We are maybe going to very, very big starvation in Aleppo.

KARADSHEH: Civilians trapped in this living nightmare, terrified and desperate. Jomana Karadsheh, CNN, Oman.

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ALLEN: Unbelievable. Well, the U.N. special envoy to Syria wants to send a team to Aleppo to assess the damage to hospitals and parts of the city.

VANIER: And Staffan de Mistura met with Syrian foreign minister Walid al-Moallem in Damascus, on Sunday. He indicated that the U.N. and the Syrian regime have very different positions on what is currently happening in Aleppo.

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STAFFAN DE MISTURA, U.N. SPECIAL ENVOY TO SYRIA: Since we do have a difference of opinion between the (INAUDIBLE) of having saying that there is a total denial of any aerial bombing of the hospitals in Eastern Aleppo. And now, a point of view that indicates that there'd been tragic bombing of hospitals in Eastern Aleppo and elsewhere, frankly. Then, that we should be allowed to send a verification team on the U.N. side and made by U.N. and other partners to verify the damage of the hospitals in both East and West Aleppo.

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ALLEN: The U.N. is also proposing that Damascus grant autonomy to rebel-held districts in East Aleppo, if jihadist fighters leave the city. The Syrian foreign minister rejected that idea.

VANIER: Scores of people are killed and devastating train wreck in Northern India. The latest on the investigation into what caused the crash. Coming up next.

ALLEN: Plus, France narrows the crowded field of conservative contenders down to just two. Which one could end up facing Marine Le Pen in the general election? That's next.

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VANIER: An investigation is underway into what caused the horrific train derailment in Northern India. At least 133 people were killed when 14 cars of a 23-carriage train jumped the tracks early on Sunday.

ALLEN: Dozens more were injured in what has become India's deadliest train wreck in six years. We're joined now by CNN's Mallika Kapur. She's live from Hong Kong.

Mallika, 24 hours ago, Indian officials was saying they had no idea how many people may be missing under some of the train cars and feared dead, are they still searching?

MALLIKA KAPUR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the rescue operation is over. That's what authorities have told us early this morning, but they did say that they had spotted one hand amidst all the rubble and the debris. And they were waiting for a crane to come to help them get to that location. Now, chances are slim that that person is still alive, one can never give up hope, and that's what they are hoping for, a miracle, and to -- hoping to find one more person alive.

But otherwise, they have said that, yes, rescue operations are over and as you just pointed out, you know, the numbers are really grim. This is India's worst and deadliest train accident in six years. The numbers are absolutely awful. 133 people dead. Out of those 133, they've managed to identify the bodies of 110 victims. Many more people are injured, 49 of them seriously injured, 49 people are in the hospital. Rescue efforts overall are -- have been stopped for now, but they are holding out hope for one more survivor.

Meantime, some other information we have is that a special train has carried the rest of the passengers back to (INAUDIBLE) some of them also being treated for injuries over there. The big question, of course, is what caused such a horrific accident to take place and the Jr. rail women after he said that on preliminary investigation, it looks like there was a fracture in the tracks, but they have ordered a formal investigation. And we'd have to wait until those results come in to determine exactly what caused it, but it does look like there was a fracture in the tracks.

ALLEN: We'll wait and see what the conclusion is about that. Monica, why does India have such issue with train accidents and derailments there?

KAPUR: It seems so because it's linked to just the sheer size of India's railway network and the fact that it's really old and that it hasn't been modernized in years, in decades. But you must understand the sheer size of it, if you look at all the tracks, if you took together all the tracks of the Indian Railway system and you line them up, it would go around the earth's circumference one and a half times. That's how massive the railway network is. If you look at the burden on that network, the entire railway network in India carries 23 million people every single day. And that's equivalent to the population of Australia. So, that's a massive number of people that's moving around every single day.

[01:20:04] Now, this railway network definitely needs proper maintenance. The problem is, of course, maintaining it is very expensive. And there's another problem here, which is that India has for decades, for many, many years highly subsidized passenger train tickets. So, what happens is there's -- once the revenue comes in, there's left over to modernize India's railway system. Whatever money comes in is used just to -- for the operational costs just to run such a massive railway system. But this has been a problem for years. There have been other train accidents in which several people have lost their lives. The Prime Minister Narendra Modi has said, this is a priority for India. And he is -- he has made the modernization of the railway system a priority.

ALLEN: Mallika Kapur for us there from Hong Kong. Thank you, Mallika.

VANIER: Now, the political field in France is being reshaped. Francois Fillon, Alain Juppe will go head to head for the French conservative party's presidential nomination next weekend. (INAUDIBLE) with Fillon emerging as the late favourite. This, after being an underdog for months. A distant third or fourth candidate even behind Juppe, and of course, his old boss, former president Nicolas Sarkozy. Sarkozy finished third in this weekends' first round of primary voting, knocking him out of contention. In his concession speech, he expressed support for Fillon who once served as his prime minister.

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NICOLAS SARKOZY, FORMER FRENCH PRESIDENT (through translator): Francois Fillon seems to have understood better the challenges France faces. I will therefore vote for him in the second round of the primary. Whatever the verdict of the second round is, the one who will be chosen will be able to count on my support.

VANIER: And that was surprising to French political commentators and observers, because Fillon's last minute surge was unpredictable and unpredicted. Jean Garrigues, professor of contemporary history at the University of Orleans in France, joins us via Skype from (INAUDIBLE). Mr. Garrigues, is Sarkozy done with politics, first of all, because he's come back. He's lost the foreign come back in the French political game.

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JEAN GARRIGUES, PROFESSOR OF CONTEMPORARY HISTORY AT UNIVERSITY OF ORLEANS: Yes, in 2012 after he was defeated in the presidential election, he said for the first time, I will retreat, I will not come back. But we saw last year, he came back. So, maybe he shall do the same next year, that in fact, it seems to mark the end of the political career of Nicolas Sarkozy.

VANIER: And how do you explain the surge of Francois Fillon in this primary race? He didn't figure for months as one of the main candidates. He's a prime minister who was not known for his charisma or even his excellent campaign skills.

GARRIGUES: Exactly. There's not interesting, because one month ago, no one could say that Francois Fillon could win the run for the Primary Election of the right party. That he add a good image of someone very serious, and he was maybe the best one because one of the most current program of the -- of the competitors and during the (INAUDIBLE) television debates, he was maybe the best because was very focused on its program and never attacked the other, and the impression of Francois Fillon was very good on the -- on the audience. And --

VANIER: But Mr. Garrigues, what change in the last minute? Because what you're describing has been true all alone. You're just describing that the basic qualities of Francois Fillon as a politician and as a person, that's been true all along. What changed over the last three weeks that caused this surge?

GARRIGUES: I think -- I think what changed was the mistakes of the other, I think Alain Juppe appeared to be too far from the people, and maybe too old for some others. And Nicolas Sarkozy appeared as someone too prerogative, too in excessive languages. And so, because of the mistakes of the other, Francois Fillon came at the right time of the best image of a presidential potential, and that's -- I think the reason of his success.

[01:24:53] And the second reason is that, you know, in politics, when the move is good for you, it's -- people come and come, and this move has been grow -- growing -- grow and growing and know he's far from the other.

VANIER: All right. John Garrigues, thank you very much. Jean Garrigues there, a professor of politics at the University of Orleans in France.

ALLEN: All right. We're looking at Germany now in the political season upon us there. Angela Merkel is thinking a fourth term as Germany's chancellor.

VANIER: She announced her bid on Sunday. Ms. Merkel has held the country's highest office for 11 years, and she says her decision was anything but trivial.

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ANGELA MERKEL, GERMAN CHANCELLOR (through translator): When it comes to politics, it is always about balancing interests, compromises, progress, steps taking forward step by step, and I always try to do that on the basis of our values, democracy, freedom, respect for the law, the dignity of every human being independent of background, skin color, religion, gender, sexual orientation or political position. That is what guides me. That is what I fight for again and again. But we can only be successful together.

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ALLEN: Ms. Merkel says she expect her upcoming campaign to be her toughest yet.

VANIER: Yeah. And she needs to win support from electorate divided over her open-door refugee policy. The chancellor would also face the aftermath of Brexit in a fourth term.

Next up on CNN NEWSROOM, residence in Eastern Aleppo don't know when the next airstrike will hits.

ALLEN: But some say even if they want to escape, they can't. We'll have the report in just a moment.

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[01:30:07] VANIER: And warm welcome back to our viewers all around the world. You are watching CNN NEWSROOM. I am Cyril Vanier.

ALLEN: I am Natalie Allen

Let's talk our top stories.

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VANIER: Activists say about 300 people have been killed in eastern Aleppo since Tuesday as Syrian government forces relentlessly bombard rebel-held areas there.

Rescuers say it's the worse bombing since the civil war began more than five years ago. Doctors say not a single hospital in Aleppo is operating at full capacity.

ALLEN: Many people who live in Aleppo say, whether they want to leave or not, they cannot.

CNN's Will Ripley spoke with one man in the eastern part of the city as bombs were falling around him.

VANIER: We want to warn you, some of the images in the report are disturbing.

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WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The explosions are like clockwork in rebel-held east Aleppo --

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RIPLEY: -- all day, every day.

ISHMIAL AL ABADULLAH (ph), EAST ALEPPO RESIDENT: They don't know how to wake up normally without the sound of bombing.

RIPLEY: Ishmial Al Abdullah (ph) takes cover in his basement. During our conversation, I count at least 17 blasts.

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(on camera): And there is another one.

(voice-over): Each getting louder and closer.

(on camera): I am listening to these explosions here and it does not faze you. You are used to it.

AL ABADULLAH (ph): It is normal for us. We are not a human being anymore because of this.

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RIPLEY (voice-over): This is a normal day in east Aleppo. First responders racing from one site to the next -- digging desperately for survivors like this little girl. She's in shock but alive. This little boy did not make it.

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RIPLEY: In this strike, 15 were injured and three people died.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING FORIEGN LANGUAGE)

"You broke my heart, Ahmed," this father says. "Ahmed, you were my soul."

Syrian activists say more than 1,000 people have died in the last two months, including more than 230 children.

A week of relentless bombing has knocked out more than half of east Aleppo's hospitals. All trauma centers are out of service.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING FOREING LANGUAGE)

RIPLEY: "This is our country, our country," says this man, refusing to let destruction like this to force him move.

(on camera): Why did you stay?

AL ABADULLAH (ph): What do we stay? We stay because it's our city. We stay because they have no place to go.

RIPLEY: Al Abdullah says the more than a quarter million people who remain in east Aleppo don't trust the so called humanitarian corridors. He says snipers on both sides shoots and kill people who try to leave.

AL ABADULLAH (ph): We aren't going to leave. We are going to die.

RIPLEY: He lost three friends in three days. He says many feel tired, hopeless, abandoned by the world.

(on camera): That was close. That one.

AL ABADULLAH (ph): That one was close. I am going to go.

RIPLEY: OK. Be safe. Be safe.

(voice-over): Despite nearly five years of pleading for help, the relentless bombing of east Aleppo continues.

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(on camera): Wow.

(voice-over): Will Ripley, CNN, Istanbul.

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[01:34:56] ALLEN: Technology, they can skype with the news media but they cannot get out of the city. Unreal.

Iraqi forces say they have killed the ISIS commander of eastern Mosul. A spokesperson says the commander was in charge of military operations in that area. Several other ISIS militants were also reportedly killed. Iraqis forces have been fighting to recapture Mosul for more than one month.

VANIER: Also, in Mosul, food and water were distributed to residents of the city Sunday in the areas recaptured from ISIS. Men, women and children rushed to pick up supplies from the aid trucks. People said they suffered from lack of food and water while they were under control of the terror group. The U.N. estimates that nearly 59,000 people have been displayed by the fighting there.

ALLEN: North eastern Nigeria was once overrun by Boko Haram. But it is what the terror group left behind this is now an even bigger threat to area, and that's starvation.

VANIER: The United Nations estimates 75,000 children are at risk of dying in the next year alone.

Our David McKenzie reports.

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DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Descending over a gutted school, destroyed by ISIS-linked Boko Haram. This video, shot by UNICEF, a first glimpse of an area once firmly under the terrorists' control. Now, safe enough for a brief visit.

It's here in Banki (ph) that 21 of the kidnap Chibok school girls were recently released after months of tense negotiations. It was a success. More than two years ago, the kidnapping of the 276 girls sparked a global outcry.

On a far greater scale, here, the forgotten victims of this brutal war remain. Tens of thousands have poured into Banki (ph) to keep safe in what they call widow's houses where women and girls shelter.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): As we were fleeing, Boko Haram stopped us. They beat my husband and took him away.

MCKENZIE: Later, Yongana (ph), not her real name, found out they killed her husband. She's left with her 18-month-old daughter. So many of the men had been killed.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translation): I keep on dreaming about my husband. Life is difficult without him. I cannot get him out of my mind.

MCKENZIE: As the international military coalition squeezes Boko Haram out of territory, aid organizations are uncovering a crisis on an extraordinary scale.

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MCKENZIE: Seven million people need help, most of them children, throughout northeast Nigeria. Tens of thousands could die from malnutrition.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is not enough access to those areas. There's all likelihood of all being lost. That's where we see a high rate of malnutrition.

MCKENZIE: A manmade crisis that in the months ahead could develop into a full-blown famine.

David McKenzie, CNN, Johannesburg, South Africa.

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VANIER: You are watching CNN NEWSROOM. Stay with us. We're back after this.

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[01:40:24] ALLEN: When you think of a runway model, you likely think of someone young, not even out of their teens.

VANIER: But one Chinese man is defying all the stereotypes, refusing to let his age define him.

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ALLEN: I'm going to look for him - VANIER: That's pretty cool.

ALLEN: -- in a lot of fashion magazines. He's really cook. He started working out when he was 15.

VANIER: Yea, he starts lifting weight at 50. I'll start when I'm 50. I've got some time.

ALLEN: Yeah, you got some time.

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VANIER: Thank you for watching CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Cyril Vanier.

VANIER: I'm Natalie Allen.

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