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Trump Attends G7 Summit As Global Disputes Threaten Unity; U.K. Prime Minister Says Climate Change Is Top Priority At G7; Putin Orders "Symmetrical Response" To U.S. Missile Test; Bernie Sanders Not Backing Down From Attacks On Media; Inferno Rages in the Amazon as World Leaders Blast Brazil; Mississippi Church Devastated After Mass Immigration Sweep; Stand-Your-Ground Case: Florida Man Found Guilty of Manslaughter in Parking Lot Shooting; First Titanic Dive in 14 Years Reveals Ship is Disappearing; Internet Puts its Own Spin on Trump "Masterpiece." Aired 3-4p ET

Aired August 24, 2019 - 15:00   ET

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ANA CABRERA, CNN ANCHOR: He has just arrived for tonight's working dinner. You can see in there, meeting French President Emmanuel Macron. Now, this summit is a chance for seven of the world's strongest countries to put on a united front to build stronger ties, to fight to tackle global issues. But as we know, Trump is no ordinary President and this is not shaping up to be an ordinary summit.

For one, sources tell CNN that the President really doesn't want to be at the G7 this weekend. He has even questioned why he has to go. They say he has complained that past gatherings have been unproductive. They focus too much on the environment and oceans instead of President Trump's own achievements.

So now, instead of pulling U.S. allies closer, which could be helpful right now during the ongoing trade war with China, the President kicked off his trip by threatening to slap the host country, France with tariffs as well.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I don't want them doing anything having to do with taxing unfairly our companies. Those are great American companies. And frankly, I don't want France going out and taxing our companies. Very unfair. And if they do that, we'll be taxing their wine or doing something else. We'll tax their wine like they've never seen before.

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CABRERA: CNN Chief White House Correspondent, Jim Acosta is traveling with the President.

Jim, President Trump and French President Emmanuel Macron have met face-to-face. What has that been like considering the threat the President made on his way over? JIM ACOSTA, CNN WHITE HOUSE CHIEF CORRESPONDENT: Well, as you might

expect, I mean, publicly they were all smiles. It seemed friendly in terms of what they were doing in front of the cameras earlier today when the two leaders sat down for lunch. But obviously, they have big disagreements on trade, on the environment, on a whole host of issues.

And as you just played in that sound just a few moments ago, there is this back-and-forth going on between the French President and President Trump over the possibility of tariffs being slapped on products going back and forth between the U.S. and France. And so it's not surprising that behind the scenes they talked about trade, they talked about taxes. The White House statement, which was put out a short while ago, readout of their conversation, and it focused on a lot of those disagreements.

But earlier in the day, you can take a look at some of this video and listen to what the President had to say. It sounded as though they were off to a pretty chummy start. Here's what he said.

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TRUMP: So far so good. The weather is perfect. The guest is fantastic. Everybody is getting along. And I think we'll accomplish a lot this weekend.

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ACOSTA: The President there saying that everybody is getting along, but no, that's not the case. That is not true. Not everybody is getting along. And just consider what Donald Tusk, the European Council President, was saying earlier today to reporters, saying that these disagreements over trade could lead to a global recession is how he put to reporters earlier today.

So, on a - what we've seen in past administrations, the United States is working with these G7 countries on issues like Russia and Iran and North Korea. At this G7, and it's happened in summits past, much of the conversation is about how to deal with President Trump, and that appears to be what's going to happen this time around as well. Ana.

CABRERA: Jim, as we mentioned earlier, sources telling us the President has felt past summits were unproductive because there was just too much focus on the environment. We're told one of the only things Trump was really looking forward to was meeting the new British Prime Minister, Boris Johnson. But I want to hear what Boris Johnson just said he is looking forward to.

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BORIS JOHNSON, PRIME MINISTER, UNITED KINGDOM: Biodiversity, habitat lost, the excruciating scenes that we've seen from the Amazon. This is being repeated around the world in the loss of species, in the loss of habitats. It's - in some places, in some ways, it's irreversible. We need to talk about that. We need to escalate here at the G7 the tragedy of what humanity is inflicting on the natural world.

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CABRERA: Jim, considering President Trump has expressed admiration for Johnson, could Johnson have some influence over the President when it comes to the climate crisis?

ACOSTA: Well, we'll have to see. As you know, Ana, the President has referred to climate change as a Chinese hoax. And so the President is certainly not on the same page as these other leaders when it comes to the environment. But heading into this G7 summit, Emmanuel Macron, the President of France, tweeted out a clip of himself talking about the situation in the Amazon rainforest where much of those forests are burning because - in part because of climate change.

To think that these world leaders at the summit, which is only going to last for a few days, is going to become a situation where they convert the President on the subject of climate change, I think that's a stretch. I think what you're going to see over the next couple of days and perhaps we'll hear some of this from the President at a press conference he is expected to hold on Monday is, they're going to be talking a great deal about these trade issues. I mean, there is no question about it.

Over here in Europe, they are rattled by the President's rhetoric when it comes to trade. And when the President is tweeting about threats to China on his way over here, that is going to unsettle things. And the E.U. - the head of the E.U., Donald Tusk, was talking about this earlier today. I suspect they'll also perhaps get into this conversation about Russia and the President's desire to have Russia readmitted and turn the G7 into a G8 again. But that idea is also being rejected.

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And so we've seen this before, Ana. The G7 last year in Canada, was at that summit. As the President was leaving, he decided that the U.S. would not sign on to the communique. They came out of that G7 summit, and he went on to insult the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who's going to be - or he's here at the summit now.

And so they're having this working dinner now I suppose. You can call it a working dinner in this situation. That was diplo-speak in the past, it used to be a way of saying. They're having dinner, and yes, they may talk about some things. But they have some very serious ideological and political disagreements between the countries over here in Europe, Japan and President Trump. There's just though no question about that. And I suspect we may not see a lot of this publicly, play out publicly in front of the cameras, but we're going to hear a lot from officials privately in terms of what's going on here and some of these disagreements that are going to take place behind the scenes, Ana.

CABRERA: We look forward to your reporting on that. Jim Acosta, thank you for that.

Before he departed, the President insisted he was looking forward to meeting with friends though he did acknowledge he wasn't exactly on chummy terms with everyone.

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TRUMP: Yes, I think it'll be very productive seeing a lot of the leaders who are friends of mine for the most part - wouldn't say in 100 percent of the cases, but for the most part.

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CABRERA: Is it a wonder this summit is already feeling more like an awkward family dinner where the United States is playing the role of the weird uncle? I mean, consider the memories of last year's G7, and Jim alluded to some of this.

The President threatening to stop all trade, he skipped a meeting on climate change, left the summit early, refused to endorse a joint statement and then went on Twitter to bash the summit host, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. These two will meet again amid an ongoing dispute over trade.

Another relationship to watch is President Trump and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, who was famously part of this photograph in that stare- down with President Trump at last year's summit. The President has repeatedly singled her out for what he sees as Germany's insufficient contributions to NATO. And you can bet, North Korea will be on the agenda when President Trump meets with the Japanese Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe, considering comments like this one.

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TRUMP: Kim Jong-un has been, you know, pretty straight with me. I think he likes testing missiles, but we never restricted short-range missiles. We'll see what happens. Many nations test those missiles.

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CABRERA: And that brings us to the host of this year's summit, French President Macron, who famously exchanged that white-knuckle handshake with President Trump over tariffs. Macron has decided the best way to head off controversy perhaps this year, just scrap the traditional end of summit statement because whatever it is, Trump won't likely sign it.

And finally, keep an eye on Trump's relationship with the new pro- Brexit Prime Minister of the U.K., Boris Johnson, who is already making waves himself for putting his feet on the furniture in Macron's office. According to "The Washington Post," President Trump sees his meeting with Johnson as the only bright spot in his schedule. But that creates a challenge for Johnson since most Britons don't exactly love the American President.

Joining us now, Democratic Congressman, Ro Khanna. He's a member of the House Armed Services Committee. Congressman, good to have you with us. Thanks for being here.

REP. RO KHANNA (D-CA): Ana, great to be back on. CABRERA: After all the insults and the jabs the President has thrown

at a number of these leaders, I just wonder where that leaves us. What is America's standing with its allies?

KHANNA: Well, Ana, it's very sad. For 70 years, Presidents in our country on a bipartisan basis, Republicans and Democrats, provided leadership for the world. And we built a world order that was stable, that respected American values. And in a single term, this President is trying to destroy all of that, destroy that credibility.

I mean, he is blowing up the economic system with these irrational tariffs on China that are frankly hurting Germany's economy. That's one of the reasons Germany may be going into recession. He has no regard for what we need to do on climate change. It's just - frankly, it's embarrassing.

CABRERA: This week, the President also floated the idea of letting Russia back into the G7, although Russia hasn't necessarily done anything to get back in. they were originally kicked out when they annexed Crimea back in 2014. That situation hasn't changed. Do you think Russia should be let back into the G7?

KHANNA: They should only be let back in after two conditions are met. First, they need to commit to stop interfering in elections around the world, not just in the United States but in many European countries. And second, they need to stop the annexation of Ukraine. Those two conditions need to be very clear when they meet them. Then we can consider having them reenter the G7 and make it a G8.

CABRERA: I'm sure it's not lost on you that it's all coming as the U.S. and Russia are trading barbs following a U.S. missile test just last week and Russia responding saying it will respond with its own test. I mean, is this a modern day arms race? Is that what we're looking at?

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KHANNA: Well, the Trump administration has created that situation. There was no need for them to withdraw from the INF Treaty. That was a treaty that President Reagan negotiated in 1987 with Mikhail Gorbachev. Trump tore that treaty up.

Now we're testing missiles, which aren't even necessary for a strategic interest, and escalating in arms race. What we ought to be doing is getting back to the negotiating table with Russia and China and re-entering an INF Treaty that includes China.

CABRERA: But critics said it was outdated. A lot of people on both sides of the aisle, politically, said Russia wasn't abiding by that treaty, China wasn't a part of that treaty. So what was the point?

KHANNA: So you have effective diplomacy and you have people like William Perry or George Shultz or even Jim Baker on your team who can help negotiate for American interests to have an INF Treaty that would have enforcement against Russia and to include China. It's easy to blow up the system, which is all that this administration wants to do. It's much harder, Ana, to build something, and we painstakingly built

things in this country for the world. And I would hope that the next president will have a team of competent experts who understand diplomacy, statesmanship and foreign policy and will be able to negotiate the types of treaties that President Reagan, President Carter and so many other American Presidents have.

CABRERA: You're assuming that President Trump is not voted back into office in 2020. So let's talk a little bit more about the Presidential election. You are the national co-chair of Bernie Sanders' Presidential campaign. Democrats have been critical of President Trump since he took office really and his attacks on the media accusing him of hurting our democracy. Here's just some of what the President has said.

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TRUMP: I'm here this evening to cut through the fake news filter and to speak straight to the American people. Fake news. Fake, fake, fake news.

It's time to expose the crooked media deceptions and to challenge the media for their role in fomenting divisions.

Really just a paper for the benefit of Amazon, "The Washington Post" is fake news.

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CABRERA: Congressman, recently we've been hearing some similar lines from Senator Bernie Sanders and members of his campaign, beginning with this attack of the "Washington Post," which is owned by "Amazon" CEO Jeff Bezos, who he suggested was directing coverage.

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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: So our job as a people is to think outside of the box, not accept what the media tells you is reality. You know what reality is. You know what we can do as a country.

We have pointed out over and over again that Amazon made $10 billion in profit last year. Do you know how much they paid in taxes? You got it. Zero. Wonder why "The Washington Post" is not one of my great supporters.

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CABRERA: Senator Sanders has since walked back those specific comments about "The Washington Post," but he continues to suggest the media is against him. Why?

KHANNA: Well, there is no difference - no comparison in President Trump and Senator Sanders. I mean, President Trump has attacked the media, has attacked them personally. Senator Sanders believes that the media plays a very constructive role in democracy. He welcomes criticism. He welcomes dissent. He believes that the role of the media is to be critical and hold politicians accountable. I think what Senator Sanders has made--

CABRERA: Why is he attacking the media saying don't believe what they're reporting, you know the reality? I mean, that doesn't sound like he's supportive of the free press.

KHANNA: Well, as you pointed out, he walked that comment back. And I think what he is saying is something broader. It's a philosophical critique of democracy. He's saying that the serious issues of Medicare for all, of a $15 minimum wage, of climate change aren't being covered enough, that so much of the coverage is based on the horse race, and that there needs to be more forums for substantive dialogue on the issues.

But I know Senator Sanders. I know he has tremendous respect for the media, for journalists, for dissent. And I believe that the media should criticize elected officials, whether it's me, whether it's someone running for President. There is extraordinary responsibility being elected in the United States, and the job of the media is to be critical.

CABRERA: All right. Congressman Ro Khanna, I appreciate your thoughts. Thank you for being part of our coverage today.

KHANNA: Thank you so much, Ana, for having me on.

CABRERA: Be sure to join me tomorrow night for our CNN presidential town halls. We have back-to-back presidential town halls. My colleague, Alisyn Camerota, hosts Montana Governor Steve Bullock at 6:00 Eastern and then I'll be joined by New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio at 7 o'clock.

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This hour, fires are raging out of control in Brazil's Amazon, burning up areas nearly twice the size of a soccer field every minute. We'll take you there, next. Plus, a massive immigration raid, testing a community's faith, after 150 parishioners are swept up by ICE.

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CABRERA: In the Amazon, the destruction is incomprehensible. Raging fires are consuming rare species of animals, potentially life-saving plants and the trees that provide 20 percent of the world's entire supply of oxygen. Think of it this way. The Amazon provides one of every five breaths you take. And all of it burning at the rate of one- and-a-half soccer fields per minute.

Although the Amazon rainforest spans eight countries, about two-thirds of it lies in Brazil. And Brazil is taking most of the criticism for this inferno. Its farmers use fire to clear land for cattle grazing or logging or crops. Brazil's President is sending in the military now to fight the fires, but it may be too little, too late. At home, angry protestors call him public enemy number one. And international condemnation is growing as well. The EU is now threatening to tear up its trade deal with South

America, and world leaders meeting at the G7 summit are also speaking out. Again, here is Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson saying the world must act.

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B. JOHNSON: Biodiversity, habitat lost, the excruciating scenes that we've seen from the Amazon. This is being repeated around the world in the loss of species, in the loss of habitats. It's - in some places, in some ways, it's irreversible. We need to talk about that. We need to escalate here at the G7 the tragedy of what humanity is inflicting on the natural world.

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CABRERA: CNN Senior International Correspondent, Nick Paton Walsh is there in Brazil. Nick, Brazil's Bolsonaro initially blamed NGOs for setting these fires. No evidence of that whatsoever. He also tried to downplay them as just seasonable events. Is the global backlash getting through to him?

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes. It seems like he is beginning perhaps to understand that the world isn't necessarily on the same page as him. He even accepted that his claim NGOs were behind this that he had no evidence himself for.

The speech we heard yesterday was very much him saying, yes, this happens seasonally, yes, this is worse than we've seen before, but at the same time, took him out of the same tenets of his policy here, which is the Amazon should be there for those who live in it to enrich themselves and no one else can tell Brazil how to look after its own environmental riches.

But we've seen here ourselves - and you can probably see behind me on this river, it's been like this all day. You should be able to see right down this tributary of the Amazon, the Madeira, and see a clear sky. The fork has come in.

We've been down the roads that are heading towards the Amazon, and alongside of it, you see one of the reasons why people are so deeply concerned about this. And that's how - where the canopy has been stripped away, frankly, by deforestation. So many cattle farms just lining the road, pieces of the road next to the highway set fire to.

We saw one flash fire that picked up was put out quite quickly. And we saw another area too where there had been substantial damage. The police saying to us that it's at night when many of these fires have started. You heard that right. Deliberately started by people who live here. They want to clear the land for deforestation. They think that President Bolsonaro, frankly, is their advocate in doing that. And he thinks people should be able to get on with making use of the land.

How fast can they put these fires out? Well, it is an absolute crisis. 85 percent (inaudible) which has the most number of fires in Brazil (inaudible) showing--

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CABRERA: OK. Nick, we're obviously having some trouble with our technology there.

Nick Paton Walsh in the Amazon, reporting on the fires consuming so much of the Amazon rainforest right now. We'll try to check back with Nick throughout the next few hours.

Up next, we'll take you to the Mississippi community that is reeling after the largest single state immigration raids in history. Hear from the families torn apart, next.

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CABRERA: It was dubbed the largest single state immigration raid in U.S. history. Hundreds rounded up in Mississippi this month. And in one city in particular, a priest says he lost half of his congregation when authorities swept in and took away suspected undocumented immigrants.

CNN's Nick Valencia shows what it's done to one church to - a church and its parishioners.

NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's the start of Thursday mass in Forest, Mississippi. And Father Roberto Mena is trying hard not show it, but he is worried. Today the pews are mostly empty.

Two weeks ago, ICE agents carried out one of the largest raids in American history and they took as many as 150 people from his congregation. Every one of those left have been impacted by what happened. Father Mena tries to reassure his parishioners that they're going to be OK, though even he admits, since the raids, most of his dreams have been nightmares.

As mass ends, parishioners are encouraged to pray to God out loud.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Foreign Language)

VALENCIA (voice-over): This woman pleads to God for parents to be reunited with their children. It's a desperate prayer, but for many, faith is all that's left.

GASPAR GOMEZ PABLO, PARISHIONER: (Foreign Language)

VALENCIA (voice-over): Gaspar Gomez Pablo says he needs help with an attorney. Along with his wife, the 33-year-old was detained in the recent raids at Koch Foods. While he was released with an ankle monitor, his wife is still being held. Though they've lived in the U.S. for more than 10 years, both of their futures, he says, are uncertain.

PABLO: (Foreign Language)

VALENCIA (voice-over): He tells me his children are sad that they don't eat much and ask about their mom. They want to know when she'll be back. For his 10-year-old, the pain of being without his mom is just too much.

VALENCIA (on-camera): Do you know where your mom is? What do you - what do you - you're sad? It's hard, huh? I'm sorry.

REV. ROBERTA MENA, SACRAMENTAL MINISTER, THE CATHOLIC DIOCESE OF JACKSON: I think now the Hispanics are living the same kind of discrimination and racism that others faced in the past.

VALENCIA (voice-over): Father Mena tells me no one in the community seemed to be prepared for the possibility of a raid or the chance that their family might be split up.

MENA: For me, separating families is the work of the evil one among us. This is something I don't understand, why they want to divide families. And they are families that they are contributing to this country. All of them, they pay taxes and they are connected to this culture.

VALENCIA (voice-over): It's a hard thing for many here to understand, but especially the children.

VALENCIA (on-camera): If you could tell your mom something, what would you tell her?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I miss her.

VALENCIA (on-camera): Of the 680 employees that were detained as a result of these raids, at least 70 have been charged with things that include illegal reentry into the United States as well as falsifying documents. An ICE official I spoke to earlier said, for those wondering whether or not the owners of these companies will be charged as well, the official said, that decision is ultimately up to the U.S. Attorney's Office.

Nick Valencia, CNN, Jackson, Mississippi.

CABRERA: Florida's stand-your-ground law tested once again during a trial in Florida. The jury deliberated for only six hours. The verdict after a quick break.

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CABRERA: News Weekend. A "guilty" verdict in the Florida's controversial stand-your-ground manslaughter trial involving a deadly dispute over a handicap parking space. The jury convicted 49-year-old Michael Drejka in the killing of an unarmed black man named Markeis McGlockton outside of Clearwater, Florida convenience store. Watch this.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: As the charge of manslaughter, we the jury find as follows as to the defendant in this case. The defendant is guilty of manslaughter as charged.

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CABRERA: McGlockton's family wept as that verdict was read. Drejka claimed he acted in self-defense when he shot and killed McGlockton last summer during an argument over a handicap parking spot. Drejka is set to be sentenced now on October 10th. He faces up to 30 years in prison.

Joining us now is CNN Legal Analyst, Joey Jackson, and defense attorney.

And Joey, I'm just curious. What's your reaction and what message do you think the jury was trying to send?

JOEY JACKSON, DEFENSE ATTORNEY & CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Ana, good to see you. The reaction is it's the right call. And I think the jury first messages that he is guilty and that there was no way around it in this case. And the second thing is that you certainly can't use stand-your- ground as a license to kill.

Certainly, stand-your-ground is significant because it says you don't have a duty to retreat. That is, if you are in a lawful place and you believe that you're in immediate fear of death or serious bodily injury, you could act in kind. But I think here it went too far.

So, quickly, Ana, there's really three steps I think they went through. The first is what I just mentioned. And that is, was he in - that is Drejka who was convicted of manslaughter - immediate fear of death or seriously bodily injury? That's the first question. You look at the videotape. You notice that the victim is retreating. They answer that question, no.

The second question is, was the force used, the shooting, in any way proportionate to the threat that was posed? Person, who was the victim, was unarmed in this case, not running towards him, as Drejka would have the police believe during the interrogation. He, in fact, was moving away.

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And so, therefore, look, not only was he not in immediate fear, but there was no sign of a weapon or anything else. So how could you say a shot is proportionate? And the third thing, real quickly, Ana, is reasonableness. The jury looks at the reasonableness of the conduct of the defendant. In this case, found it to be unreasonable and therefore convicted of manslaughter. Right call, without question.

CABRERA: And yes, Drejka was not initially arrested. The Sheriff believing that he was acting in self-defense, saying, "He felt after being slammed to the ground that the next thing was that he was going to be further attacked by McGlockton." Now, Drejka never took the stand in his own defense. Was that a

mistake by his defense team?

JACKSON: Well, two things, Ana. First thing, it's an excellent point you raise. It goes from the Sheriff not arresting in light of the fact that he says that he's justified. Remember, this a sheriff who's also a lawyer who makes that determination. The defense wanted him to testify, and the judge said, no, I'm not going to allow him to opine as to why he felt this way. And so that's going to be an issue that they'll raise on appeal.

In terms of ultimately him testifying, here's the point. He did testify. He testified in as much as the prosecution showed his interrogation tape. So, no, he didn't get on the stand, but the prosecution evaluated what he was saying when he was asked by the police. And interestingly, he convicted himself.

Why? Because the police asked him, hey, if he wasn't running towards you - right, and I'm paraphrasing it in essence - then, would you still have shot? No, I would not have. Well, what if we told you that in fact he was stepping away? What would you say about that? I would disagree.

Now, mind you, that's what he said. But you look at the videotape, the videotape told another story. The defense is also appealing on the grounds that they said the judge allowed it to be played in slow-mo, which I also think is the right call. Right? So--

CABRERA: I mean, when you talk about the importance of this case and the bigger pictures, the stand-your-ground law in Florida has been controversial for some time. We all remember the George Zimmerman case--

JACKSON: Only too well.

CABRERA: --with Trayvon Martin being the victim there.

JACKSON: Yes.

CABRERA: And George Zimmerman was put on trial. He was found not guilty. That was a second-degree murder case.

JACKSON: Yes.

CABRERA: This one was manslaughter. How do you see this impacting that law in a broader sense?

JACKSON: Well, first of all, in a broader sense, I think we should say that the majority of states do have stand-your-ground. And I think that only says one thing. There's a recognition that, look, you can use - the law allows you to use force if it's necessary, appropriate and reasonable. In this case, it wasn't. To the - so majority of states recognize that you know what, they want to do that. About 27 or so states have it.

To the broader picture and the context of what happened with Trayvon Martin, remember, there was no videotape there. That was really testimonial evidence. They had other types of evidence. But this, there was a videotape directly pointing to the actions.

And I think what it shows, if I could be optimistic in the broader sense, is it shows that the jurors are going to do the right thing if they have the evidence to demonstrate what that right thing is. And the defense in this case was asking the jurors, don't believe your lying eyes. Right? Because, of course, the person who is the defendant in this case was saying he was attacking me, he was approaching me.

CABRERA: What he described as--

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JACKSON: That's not what the tape showed at all. So--

CABRERA: Joey Jackson, thank you, my friend.

JACKSON: Always. Thanks, Ana.

CABRERA: Good to have you here.

JACKSON: Always.

CABRERA: Coming up, ravaged by time. New images from the ocean depths showing the Titanic's shocking decline.

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CABRERA: We have stunning video revealing the Titanic's shocking state of decay on the floor of the Atlantic Ocean. This dramatic video coming from the first man dive in 14 years to this wreckage. CNN's Natasha Chen has more on how nature is reclaiming the famous ship.

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NATASHA CHEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For first time in nearly 14 years, an international team of divers visited the Titanic, finding deterioration and erosion quickly taking over the ill-fated ship. The Triton Submarines' exploration team of experts and scientists completed a series of five dives about 12,500 feet below the surface, shooting 4K video with specially adapted cameras, making it possible to view the wreck in virtual reality.

VICTOR VESCOVO, CEO, CALADAN OCEANIC: First impressions, it's big. It is a big wreck. I wasn't fully ready for just how large it was. And when it came up on sonar, it really stood out.

CHEN (voice-over): The team quickly noticed the 107-year-old ship's decay.

Titanic historian Parks Stephenson describes what he saw. "The most shocking area of deterioration was the starboard side of the officer's quarters, where the captain's quarters were. Captain's bathtub is a favorite image among the Titanic enthusiasts, and that's now gone. That whole deck hole on that side is collapsing, taking with it the staterooms, and the deterioration is going to continue advancing."

Salt corrosion, metal-eating bacteria, and deep currents are speeding up the natural decay of the wreckage.

LORI JOHNSON, SCIENTIST: So it's a group of bacteria, a community that are working symbiotically to eat, if you will, the iron, the manganese, the sulfur that makes up the steel, the reason that the deterioration process ends up being quite a bit faster.

CHEN (voice-over): Originally discovered in September 1985, about 370 miles off the coast of Newfoundland, scientists took samples of icicle-like growths called rusticles. The samples showed the rusticles to be a type of bacteria that consumes metals. Scientists say it's only a matter of time before bacteria destroys the wreckage.

L. JOHNSON: The future of the wreck is going to continue to deteriorate over time. It's a natural process. These are natural types of bacterias.

CHEN (voice-over): After the exploration was completed, the dive team held a ceremony laying a wreath to honor the 1,517 people who died during the ship's sinking.

Natasha Chen, CNN.

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CABRERA: Want to bring in underwater diver and explorer, Tim Taylor, who knows the diving team that shot that new Titanic video. He also leads his own missions to ancient wreckage.

Tim, it's great to have you with us. The images that we're seeing, it's so interesting. First, let's just talk about the challenges of diving to that depth, 12,500 feet down.

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TIM TAYLOR, UNDERWATER EXPLORER & CEO, TIBURON SUBSEA: It seems deep nowadays, but it's becoming regular fair. But it is technical and it's challenging. Robotics are typically used, but when these guys go down in manned submersibles, it adds that whole another level of risk.

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CABRERA: And there's this (ph) pressure, right?

TAYLOR: A lot of pressure. A lot of pressure on a tiny space. And it's human beings. If we have typically a robot fail underwater, we can bring it back up and work on it. It's not life or death. But these guys are putting man and going down and seeing this in submersibles, and it's very logistically high risk and it's got to be done right.

CABRERA: What's your reaction to seeing the state of decay? TAYLOR: The state of decay on these wrecks is typical. Mother Nature

claims stuff back. If we humans all went away, the New York City would probably suffer the same rate of decay with different types of elements. So it's almost an argument for museums and preservation and bringing stuff back to show the public and preserving it for the future generations.

CABRERA: And is there a reason why that isn't happening? Again, I can imagine museums would gladly welcome in--

TAYLOR: Yes.

CABRERA: --any piece of the Titanic.

TAYLOR: And this is where it gets very controversial because this is a grave. There are people that are - last resting place of these sites. Similar to the World War II wrecks that we find, men are on board them still. So families are involved. And tombs, they're protected in a way. So they're sacred ground.

So, bringing back artifacts is desecrating a grave. And so there's a debate. There are other people on the other side of the debate that say the only way to remember them for 100 years from now or 200 years from now is by having a museum and pieces from their site. So it's a - it's a balancing act usually. A little bit of salvage and protection, and respecting the sites when you do it.

CABRERA: In terms of the logistics of bringing pieces up, is that possible?

TAYLOR: It's possible. It's been done. It was done in the Titanic in 1998. And they have a museum exhibit that went around the world. It - what we're doing is three dimensional scanning. We're doing like photomosaic work, light our work that does basically scans archeologically perfect images of these sites as they are in-situ at that particular time.

You can return to them later and it's obviously changed, but you've got a shot in time of how they are. And then if you do it again later, 14 years from then, you've got a compare and contrast and you can study what's happening to these.

CABRERA: We have about 20 seconds. But I just wonder what is your thought about here we are 107 years later after the sinking of the Titanic and there's still such a fascination. It still seems to resonate--

TAYLOR: Yes. It is - it is an iconic shipwreck, and it was in the news at the time, and I don't think it will ever go away. The Titanic is kind of the biggest Everest of shipwrecks there is, if you want to call it that, geographically.

CABRERA: Tim Taylor, I appreciate your expertise.

TAYLOR: Great.

CABRERA: Thank you for being here to share it with us.

TAYLOR: Thank you.

CABRERA: He was a fashion icon, a design genius, ahead of his time. Tomorrow night, tune in for the CNN film about the rise and fall of Halston. Here's a preview.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is success fun?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, sure, it's fun and it's not fun. And as my mother says, it's the price you have to pay.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The most successful individual in the history of American fashion.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Halston.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Halston.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Halston.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm Halston. I made it in New York.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: His clothes danced with you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Halston felt that he had to design everything.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Rugs, sheaths, perfume, shoes, bags, bugs (ph), he came like a king.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (inaudible) problem was he began to believe it all.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm the old time optimist.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I took Halston to Studio 54.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He fell in love with it right away.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They lived out a lot of their fantasies.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Drugs, sex, and rock-and-roll.

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CABRERA: Many studies show too much screen-time can be unhealthy for young people, but this CNN hero is teaming up with hospitals to make screen-time healing time. Meet Zach Wigal.

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An artist famous for his adoring Trump paintings is having his latest work re-touched by not-so-adoring critics. CNN's Jeanne Moos reports.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump has done a few skyline sketches for charity. "Looks like a bunch of middle finger salutes" was one critique. But even President Trump doesn't call himself an artist. So what's this?

JON MCNAUGHTON, ARTIST: The title is going to be "The Masterpiece."

MOOS (voice-over): Jon McNaughton has a new painting. He's made a name for himself with his Trump fan art. Remember, Trump crossing the swamp, mimicking Washington crossing the Delaware. Many of the works posted on his Instagram even move, but they also move his detractors to do a little retouching.

MOOS (on-camera): Critics on Twitter went bonkers, pulling back the curtain on the President's painting.

MOOS (voice-over): They took the impressionistic original painting and re-interpreted it, revealing everything from a Filet-O-Fish to the President's tax returns to a map of Greenland. The actual artist meant to look at the big picture.

MCNAUGHTON (voice-over): How will history remember the Presidency of Donald J. Trump? I believe it will be considered his masterpiece.

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MOOS (voice-over): These re-touchers think history will remember Trump's presidency for its caged immigrants and white supremacists with tiki torches or for his relationships with a bare-chested Vladimir Putin, Trump and Kim Jong-un in a hot tub, colorful characters like Stormy Daniels and Anthony Scaramucci. Note the itty- bitty hand holding the curtain. The real Scaramucci tweeted, "Not bad a doctoring." The undoctored masterpiece is available for up to $399 on the artist's website.

MCNAUGHTON: Whether it's my masterpiece, that I don't know yet.

MOOS (voice-over): He is the master of this piece of work. Trump fans love it and Trump critics love to deface it. It's a "Scream."

Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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CABRERA: Coming up, new CNN reporting, the President really didn't want to attend the G7 summit irked by how much they've had to talk about the oceans and the environment in the past, how aides convinced him it's not a waste of time.

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CABRERA: Thanks for staying with me. You are live in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Ana Cabrera in New York.