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South Korean Movie Wins Big at the 92nd Academy Awards; 66 New Cases of Coronavirus Aboard Quarantined Cruise Ship; Chinese Citizen Journalist Missing in Wuhan; Sanders and Buttigieg Clash Going Into New Hampshire Primary. Aired 2-3a ET

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ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN HOST: Hello and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the United States and all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church. From CNN world headquarters in Atlanta, this is "CNN Newsroom."

Ahead this hour -- a night for the history books, South Korean film "Parasite" breaks barriers at the Oscars. We will hear from the director who took home a handful of honors.

People in China are cautiously returning to work as the death toll from coronavirus tops 900. The virus is also sending a chill through the country's economy.

Voters in New Hampshire are set to vote Tuesday in the first primary election in the U.S. and party unity is a problem for the Democrats as candidates lash out at each other.

Good to have you with us. So we begin with the Oscars, very unusual for us, and the movie that dominated the night, "Parasite." Now, the South Korean dark comedy won best picture, becoming the first ever non-English language film to take home the top prize.

The film and its director, Bong Joon-ho, were also honored for best director, best international feature film and best screenplay. The winds are sure to create a lot of excitement in the picture's home country of South Korea.

So let's get more on all of this. We turn to CNN's Paula Hancocks who joins us from Pyeongchang in South Korea. Paula, good to see you. So, what an extraordinary win for Bong Joon-ho and his celebrated film "Parasite." How is this historic being received in South Korea?

PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Extremely well, Rosemary. As you might imagine, social media is going crazy. Koreans are delighted that the man, the director that they have known for a long time that has been famous in this country and well-respected in this country for many years, is now being appreciated internationally. So, it was an extremely big night for "Parasite." It is a scathing

look at class war. It is an apologetic black comedy where a poor family manages to assimilate itself into the household and the lives of a rich family with devastating effect.

I won't tell you more about the film the film than that in case you haven't seen it. But let's hear from the director himself. We did have our Stephanie Elam catch up with him on the red carpet.

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STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Your hurdle has been hot and the glass ceiling has been broken. You said that you're feeling pretty good. How are you feeling right now?

BONG JOON-HO, FILM DIRECTOR: (Speaking in foreign language).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think we destroyed the barrier too much. We should have taken our time actually.

ELAM: Wait, wait, wait. Why should you have taken your time?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Speaking in foreign language).

JOON-HO: (Speaking in foreign language).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, he just needs some time to adjust, but I think it's great in life to have things happen so fast and that's what's happening tonight.

ELAM: So, when you won, I think it was after a screenplay, you stopped and you looked at your Oscar off to the side like you didn't believe what has happened. Like you looked like you left us for a minute.

JOON-HO: Yes, yes. When he was doing speech, I go like this. (Speaking in foreign language).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It felt like the Oscar trophy was staring at me so we locked eyes for a second.

ELAM: And that was before the drinking.

JOON-HO: Yes. I was sober, totally sober.

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HANCOCKS: And he said he stopped to that, that he intends to drink all night. Now, certainly he has a lot to celebrate and we've had great reaction from many South Koreans. Many Korean-Americans in Hollywood as well have been giving their congratulations.

We just seen a tweet from the South Korean President Moon Jae-in, who has said, "I'm proud of Bong Joon-ho, the actors and the crew," talking about how this is giving pride and courage to the Korean people as a whole. CHURCH: What could this mean for Bong Joon-ho's future, and of

course, for the movies he has already made because he is very well known as you point out? Could there be resurgence in his previous work?

HANCOCKS: I think there will be many people googling to see what exactly his other films are because they are very well-known in this country, but not necessarily on the international scene.

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Now, we did speak to one of his friends who's also a director, and he was assaying that this not only means a lot for Korean cinema, the fact that they have won, because it means that those in the western world, those English-speaking film buffs will now be looking beyond the English language films.

But it also shows that subtitles are not an impediment anymore, as he believes that they have been in the past -- the likes of Netflix, the likes of YouTube, means that people are now used to reading subtitles.

So, the world has really opened up not just for Korean cinema he believes, but from many non-English language films around the world. So this really will open it up.

CHURCH: It is a very good point. Paula Hancocks joining us there, getting a little read on how South Korea is feeling in the aftermath of this historic win -- just incredible. Many thanks. And we will have more from Stephanie Elam on the red carpet a little later in the program.

Coverage of Hollywood's historic night is among the top stories on our website right now and you can see all the highlights at anytime you like. Just head over to cnn.com, take a look.

Now, this could be the news, passengers under lock down on a quarantine ship have dreaded. CNN has confirmed at least 66 new cases now of the Wuhan coronavirus have been found on that cruise ship in Japan. And that of course brings the total number of infections to 134 on the Diamond Princess.

Some people have been taken to hospitals already but thousands remain on board that ship, under lock down. Meanwhile, it is the end of the Lunar New Year break and millions of people across China are returning to work right now, even as the number of deaths from the virus climbs at an alarming rate.

The disease was first discovered in the city that bears its name, just as the holiday began. And since then, it has killed at least 910 people globally, with another 40,000 still infected. Of course, the vast majority of those cases are in mainland China.

The World Health Organization says a team of experts has been sent there to investigate the outbreak. And our Matt Rivers is in Yokohama, Japan where the ship we just mentioned is docked and Steven Jiang joins us live from the Chinese capital Beijing. Good to see you both. Matt, I do want to start with you because as we mentioned, you are there in Yokohama. You are just near that cruise ship. It's docked, under quarantine. Now, we're getting this news of 66 new cases of coronavirus being reported.

This is what worried a lot of the people on board because their main concern is now they'll have to go back to square one and start those 14 days of quarantine all over again. Well, that was certainly their understanding. Has there been any confirmation or clarification on that?

MATT RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. So let's give our viewers the latest here, Rosemary. We got here to the ship about a half an hour ago when it was within the last 15 minutes that we heard the captain of the ship start to give an announcement over the loudspeakers on board the ship.

And with two different passengers on board, we've confirmed and we've listened to a recording of the announcement ourselves where the captain gets on the loudspeaker and says, there have been 66 new cases reported of the coronavirus on board that ship.

That is nearly a 100 percent increase since yesterday. Yesterday we were at 70 cases. Now, 66 additional cases brings us up to 136 total. And it's not over yet. This quarantine started on Monday, so -- excuse me, last -- it started on Monday. We're on the eight day of it now.

However, it's not going to end until February 19th. These cases according to what we heard from the captain were expected as he put it. That's the word he used. They were slightly expected in the sense that these cases could very well have been contracted prior to the quarantine being in place.

So what the captain said is that the quarantine is working and that there doesn't seem to be plans to change that, that these people that have shown these new symptoms that have tested positive for the virus could very well have contracted it before the quarantine took place.

The quarantine is a two-week period because the incubation period for this virus is up to two weeks. So that's what the captain is saying. He is very calm and measured in his announcement.

We are expecting a press conference within the next hour or so from the Japanese ministry of health where they are expected to confirm this information themselves. And will also likely give the same information that the captain just gave because he said that his information came from the ministry of health.

So that's where we're at, Rosemary. To your point though about the quarantine period starting over, that was the understanding of some of the passengers from everything that we've heard, from government officials, that is incorrect. The quarantine period will end on February 19th.

[12:10:02] Now, officials say they could always choose to extend that based on what happens because this is a fluid situation, but we are expecting that quarantine period to stop on February 19th, despite the fact this relatively dramatic news here, nearly 100 percent increase in the amount of confirmed coronavirus cases on board the Diamond Princess behind me, since yesterday.

CHURCH: All right. So Matt, that means that people on board, I mean, they're still looking at another nine days at least on board. They're being confined to their cabins. Some of them were lucky enough to have balconies, at least have access to fresh air.

A lot of people were complaining. A lot of the passengers saying, you know, they weren't getting a lot of water. There were real restrictions in terms of food and water. Do we have an update on the situation there?

RIVERS: Yes. It seems we're in touch with probably a half a dozen or so people at least on board the ship, and they say that they are doing okay, all things considered. They're getting enough to eat. They're getting water. We know that medical supplies, medical prescriptions have been actually requested from passengers on board.

Some 2,000 requests have gone out to Japanese authorities for, you know, everything from aspirin to blood pressure medication. You can imagine those are the kinds of things that run out during the quarantine period. And just ourselves behind us over the last hour or so, we have seen supplies being loaded on board the ship.

There is Japanese Self-Defense Forces here bringing supplies on the ship. So it does appear that while the Japanese authorities are going to completely enforce this quarantine through February 19th, they recognize that in order to do that safely and effectively and as comfortably as possible for the passengers on board.

They're going to need to bring in certain supplies, get laundry done, get linens changed out, get prescription medications on board -- they know that that's what needs to happen, and it does appear that they are meeting those demands.

CHURCH: So nine more days for those passengers and crew who are basically quarantined in lockdown there on that cruise line. We thank Matt Rivers for bringing us up-to-date there from Yokohama in Japan. Let's turn now to Steve, and as we mentioned, he is live there in Beijing.

And Steve, of course, we've brought to our viewers an update on the death of that doctor in Wuhan, who basically sounded the alarm about the coronavirus. He is since dead, as we say, but what more are you learning about the disappearance of a citizen journalist who had been reporting from Wuhan warning everyone about this spread of the coronavirus, just like the doctor had?

STEVEN JIANG, CNN SENIOR PRODUCER: That's right, Rosemary. The case of the citizen journalist reminded a lot of people of the doctor because obviously the doctor who passed away last Friday contracted the very virus he was trying to warn others about. Now, this citizen journalist, Chen Quishi, also 34 years old, had been roaming around in Wuhan for two some weeks before he disappeared last Thursday.

Now, we have confirmation from his friends and family that he has indeed been taken away by local police and placed under forced quarantine ostensibly for his own health. But these friends telling us they are actually worried about his safety because they feel the authorities definitely view him as a troublemaker because what he had been doing in Wuhan.

He was carrying his camera to the hospitals and just to the streets of Wuhan and really recording the misery there, the very grim scene there often in stark contrast to what was presented in state media. In his films, in his videos, we have seen desperation and helplessness from people on the ground, whether they were trying to seek medical attention or just feeling nobody was really helping them when their loved ones got sick or even died.

That, of course, despite the citizen journalist's social media account totally blocked here in China; he managed to upload these videos on YouTube and attracting millions of views as well as huge attention. Now, Rosemary, all of this is happening against this background of this government here ramping up its own propaganda and trying to control the narrative of this outbreak.

They have been shutting down independent reporting on the ground and censoring more posts on this topic. And then of course according to the government's critics, they are not only now trying to control the flow of the people to contain the virus, but also to control the flow of information, Rosemary.

CHURCH: Yes, some heroic work done by that citizen journalist and also by that doctor. Steven Jiang, many thanks to you for bringing us up to date on the situation from Beijing. Appreciate it.

We'll take a short break here. Still to come, Democratic hopefuls, Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg are taking swipes at each other with the New Hampshire primary less than a day away. We will look at the heated race there. That's next.

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CHURCH: Voters in New Hampshire will go to the polls on Tuesday for the first primary of this election year in the United States. In a new CNN poll, 0s is leading the pack in New Hampshire with Pete Buttigieg in second place, Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren, are in third and fourth place respectively. CNN's Jeff Zeleny has more now on those numbers.

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JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: A little more than one day remaining before the New Hampshire primary campaign voting begins. Bernie Sanders leading this race over Pete Buttigieg by about 7 percentage points in our latest poll, notable that Elizabeth Warren following behind.

Of course, she was one of the leading competitors here to Bernie Sanders throughout the last year in this New Hampshire primary -- Joe Biden also trailing even below that. That is essential question here in New Hampshire. Has he been able to change the dynamic to vault him back into the conversation?

He placed fourth in Iowa. That certainly was a stinging defeat. He now is going aggressively hard after Pete Buttigieg urging New Hampshire voters to consider his experience or in the view of the Biden campaign, his lack of experience to be president.

Now, the New Hampshire primary campaign can often deliver surprises. So the Sanders team is not taking anything for granted.

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But there is no question that Bernie Sanders is certainly enjoying the moment where he believes he's rattling the Democratic establishment. Of course, we'll see what happens when the voting comes on Tuesday. And then this race goes on to Nevada and South Carolina.

It's just beginning, but the question, will all these candidates remain in. Certainly that is unlikely, that is why they're voting on Tuesday, so, so important. Jeff Zeleny, CNN, New Hampshire.

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CHURCH: Meanwhile, the results of last week's contest asked who coming into focus, the Iowa Democratic Party says, "U.S. democratic presidential candidate, Pete Buttigieg, has won the most (inaudible) in the Iowa caucuses.

The updated numbers show the former South Bend, Indiana mayor with a very slim lead over Senator Bernie Sanders, but the Sanders campaign says it will ask for a partial re-canvas of the results on Monday.

Well, Sanders and Buttigieg also clashed on separate appearances on CNN, taking mild swings at each other and treating the upcoming New Hampshire Primary as a two-person race.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am running against a candidate, Pete Buttigieg, among others, who has raised contributions from more than 40 billionaires, including the CEOs of some of the largest drug companies in America.

So, we are independent of our revolution. All these other groups, they are legally able to do what they want. So my message to all of the candidates, let's end all of that stuff.

PETE BUTTIGIEG (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Bernie's pretty rich and I would happily accept the contribution from him, look. This is about making sure we bring everybody into the fight at a moment when we're going to be going up against Donald Trump who with his allies, are raising, I think the other day, they raised $25 million in one day. This is the fight of our lives.

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CHURCH: And joining me now from Munich, James Davis, director of the Institute of Political Science at the University of St. Gallen. Thank you so much for being with us.

JAMES DAVIS, DIRECTOR, INSTITUE OF POLITICAL SCIENCE, UNIVERSITY OF ST. GALLEN: Good morning.

CHURCH: So ahead of Tuesdays New Hampshire primary, CNN's latest polls shows Bernie Sanders leading the pack, but late Sunday we learned Pete Buttigieg won the Iowa caucuses, just ahead of Sanders.

So, they're in this tight race. We saw there, they're sort of fighting each other trying to make it look like it's a two-man race here. What could this mean for Tuesday do you think?

DAVIS: Well, I mean, I think the question on Tuesday is going to be who has the best with ground game. We clearly have two frontrunners here. The two of them, Buttigieg and Sanders have been running ahead in New Hampshire for quite a while, most of the polls.

And most of them show Sanders ahead, but Buttigieg has been surging. He had a bit of a boost coming out if Iowa. He's been solid in his performances in the debates.

And so I think he's going to be trying to mobilize his people on the ground, the army of young people that are behind Sanders are going to be doing the same thing and we'll see who gets their people to the ballot box.

CHURCH: Yes, I mean, that's the name of the game, isn't it. Former Vice President Joe Biden had previously been seen as the one presidential candidate who could beat Donald Trump, right? But that doesn't appear to be the case anymore. What's happened to Biden? What is going on with him and his campaign?

DAVIS: Well, I mean, the voters are speaking. People are just -- they're not as excited about the vice president. Just many people thought they might have been that he has been limping (ph) out of Iowa. If he comes limping out of New Hampshire, basically, all his eggs are going to be in the two basket that are coming up at the end of the month, and that's Nevada and South Carolina.

And if he doesn't win those, I think he's going to have to pull out. I don't think -- I don't see a way for him forward if he doesn't win at least one or two of these remaining campaigns this month. So, I think he is wounded. I think the energy is clearly behind some of these new faces.

People seem to want a new face. Bernie is not so new, but his message is new and then the people behind him, they find him genuine, that's what you hear over and over again when you talk to the people at his rallies. He's a genuine proponent for change and for a certain part of the party that seems to resonate.

CHURCH: But the Democrats might find that new energy exciting. Which Democratic candidate, though, has any hope of beating Donald Trump, would appeal to the masses across the United States? And of course, they're going up against the president, emboldened by his impeachment acquittal in the midst of the Iowa debacle as well. I mean, Donald Trump had a very good week last week.

DAVIS: Donald Trump had one of the best weeks of his presidency and he is coming out of that with momentum of his own. His base is also mobilized, people are fired about his campaign on the right.

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But you're right. The question that Democrats are asking themselves is who can -- who is best positioned to beat Donald Trump in November? And I think what we see with the rise of Sanders is nervousness on the part of many of the traditional big names in the Democratic Party, the traditional party bases.

They don't quite know what to make of this revolutionary style of this populist message and are nervous and I think that's why you will see people looking for the best alternative. I think that's one of the reasons people are moving away from Vice President Biden because they think he just doesn't have it, that they're taking a hard look at Mayor Pete.

We some of them going to Amy Klobuchar. She seemed to have a little bit of momentum coming out of the last debate. But then there is the wildcard out there, Mayor Bloomberg. And after Sanders performed so well in Iowa, you did see renewed interest on the part of many in the candidacy of the former mayor of New York.

And that's such a wild card because he's playing was very unconventionally. He is avoiding his early states, his early primaries, and focusing on the big basket of votes that is out there on Super Tuesday and early March.

CHURCH: He came in so late though, didn't he? And when you look at his numbers, they're not looking impressive at this juncture, but is it just too early to tell? Have you seen instances in the past where someone's turned it around at this point?

DAVIS: That's the interesting thing about Bloomberg, is it's a very unorthodox candidacy. It is self-financed. The man has $60 billion at his disposal. He's focusing on the big stage. He's out there in a big way in California.

He had this major advertisement starting Super Bowl, and a like that are running nationally. It's just hard to know what to make of this because we don't have experience with this type of candidate. So, it's a big question mark out there.

But I think the question mark is really about who is best positioned to take on this president, and I think once the Democratic Party has decided who that is, they're going to do their damn best to get that person voted for.

CHURCH: Yes, absolutely. James Davis, thank you so much. I always appreciate your perspective and analysis.

DAVIS: Thank you Rosemary.

CHURCH: Vote counting in Ireland is producing some unexpected results. Sinn Fein has won the most seats so far in the country's general election. Twenty-nine seats so far, almost twice that of the second place, Fianna Fail, with the ruling Fine Gael in third.

The count is still underway, but an exit poll suggested an unprecedented three-way tie for the main parties. It may take weeks for coalition to be formed. The current prime minister says he is unwilling to govern with Sinn Fein, the party once associated with the Irish Republican Army.

Well, stores closed, factories shutdown and sporting events suspended. Coming up, a look at the impact the coronavirus is having on the global economy. Back with that in just a moment.

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ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Welcome back to our viewers here in the United States and all around the world. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM, I'm Rosemary Church. Let's check the headlines for this hour.

The best in film were honored at the Academy Awards Sunday night. Joaquin Phoenix won the Oscar for Best Actor for his performance in Joker, Renee Zellweger took home the Best Actress award for her role in the film Judy, Brad Pitt won for Best Supporting Actor for his part in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and Laura Dern won Best Supporting Actress for her role in Marriage Story. But of course, the night belongs to Parasite and it's four wins including Best Picture and Director.

Voters in New Hampshire will go to the polls Tuesday for the first primary of the 2020 U.S. election cycle. In a new CNN poll, Democratic hopeful Senator Bernie Sanders leads in the state with 28 percent support. Former South Bend Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg is in second followed by former Vice President Joe Biden and Senator Elizabeth Warren.

A number of people who have died from the Wuhan coronavirus has jumped past 900 worldwide with more than 40,000 infected. Most of those cases in mainland China. Meanwhile, the number of cases on a cruise ship quarantined in Japan has nearly doubled now with 136 people infected on board.

The Japanese government is treating patients in dozens of hospitals. CNN's Will Ripley spoke with one passenger from the Diamond Princess who has the virus and is now recovering in a quarantine ward.

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WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I'm standing outside one of the hospitals here in Japan that is treating coronavirus patients. And I have to say when we arrived, I was surprised that there's no signs no additional security to let you know that coronavirus patients are inside this hospital, which sits in the middle of a quiet residential neighborhood here in Tokyo.

But when we actually spoke with one of the patients, an American named Rebecca Frazier from the U.S. state of Oregon, she tested positive for the virus. She was taken off of the Diamond Princess cruise ship and she was brought here. I was able to speak to her. She actually was able to wave to us from her hospital room. And I have to say, she's doing very well. She's not showing any symptoms at all. They're not even giving her fluids or any sort of medication to treat coronavirus, because it's simply not an issue.

And she was telling us about some of her friends on the ship who have also tested positive, and they are in a similar condition. And so I think this is one of the underreported angles of this story. This is absolutely a global health emergency that needs to be taken very seriously. People need to be washing their hands on a regular basis, mindful of protecting their health. And some of the stories coming out, particularly out of China and Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak, they are just heartbreaking.

But what we often don't hear about are the vast majority of other patients who have this virus, who you know, maybe have some symptoms or many of them are not showing any symptoms at all, and they're going to recover. They're going to be OK. And hopefully hearing from Rebecca will help dial back some of the hysteria, some of the fear that people are feeling right now. You can see that interview on CNN's "NEW DAY" On Monday morning in the U.S. Will Ripley, CNN, Tokyo.

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CHURCH: And it's worth noting the economic impact of the virus is also being filled in the world's second-largest economy. Economist fear it may even be worse than SARS. China's auto industry could be the first to take a hit as most of its assembly plants have closed. And economists say the lack of parts coming out of China could hurt global supply chains as well. The luxury goods industry is also seeing a drop in demand because people are spending less and not traveling.

Meanwhile, the golf industry is hurting as well. The LPGA is canceling tournament's in Thailand and Singapore due to concerns over the outbreak across Asia. I want to get some perspective on this. And Simon Baptist, chief economist at the Economist Intelligence Unit joins me now from Singapore. Good to talk with you.

SIMON BAPTIST, CHIEF ECONOMIST, ECONOMIST INTELLIGENCE UNIT: Hi there.

CHURCH: So, of course, the impact of the coronavirus already having an impact on some industries, particularly the auto industry. What other economic consequences are you seeing and how bad do you think this could get?

BAPTIST: The economic impacts, of course, does depend on the trajectory of infections and how quickly the virus has come -- is going to be brought under control. At the Economist Intelligence Unit, we have downgraded our expectation for China's growth this year, down by 0.5 percent, 5.4 percent. That's on the assumption that the outbreak is brought under control by the end of March. So if it takes longer than that, obviously, forecast come down further. Earlier than that, it won't be as bad as we currently expect.

But that's going to have a big ricochet effect all around the rest of the world. Our global growth forecast is going to be cut from something like 2.3 percent down to probably 2.1 percent. And some of the economies that are going to be hardest hit in the immediate term, it's those that are really reliant on flows of Chinese tourists and Chinese students. So in places like Thailand and Vietnam. The immediate terms is beyond that. There is going to be some supply chain disruption. That's both reduction in demand for intermediate components of electronics from places like Malaysia or the Philippines. It's also going to mean a disruption from companies who are reliant on exports from China.

We'll probably see this accelerating somewhat the shift of supply chains out of China into the rest of Asia, particularly Southeast Asia. It's already happening because of the U.S.-China trade war. This will probably just cause firms to accelerate their plans.

CHURCH: So how long term would you expect this impact to be do you think? I mean, I know it's difficult to sort of look ahead, but just using the impact of SARS as a guide here perhaps, just give us an idea on what sort of impact you're looking at there.

BAPTIST: Yes, we've done some modeling to have a look at what we think will happened to the world, 60 or so largest economies over the next couple of years. An area, you model show that a lot of places, almost everywhere is going to have a reduction in growth in 2020 as a result. But a big chunk of that should be recovered in 2021 as this bounce back. And after that --

CHURCH: Right. That's still a bit of a weight though, isn't it?

BAPTIST: It is a weight. And there are going to be some bits of activity that will never be recovered. So, for example, places like Thailand and Vietnam that are reliant on the tourism impact, people who are not taking trips in the first quarter or first half of 2020, they may never -- they may never take those trips. There will be some expenditures that are simply never replaced or students decided not to go abroad to study at university. So not everything will come back.

CHURCH: Could you see the possibility of some businesses sitting back and going OK, certainly if they were involved in the SARS incident, could they possibly look and go OK, we need to find somewhere else that will supply some of our goods so that will assemble some of our cars, all of those sorts of things. Do you see it as a long-term impact like that? BAPTIST: I think not from coronavirus itself. Most businesses that I speak to in the Asia Pacific region are expecting this to be a short- term issue. So perhaps playing out over the next six months and then things largely going back to normal. So businesses are not going to make decisions just based on a temporary chain of events. However, what it will do is those firms that were already looking to diversify their supply chains because of the U.S.-China trade war, as well as rising wages in China. This is just another little portion. Perhaps if some companies were sitting on the fence, this might -- this might my tip them over into being a little bit more active.

CHURCH: But it's going to have a huge impact on so many businesses. Even the clothesline when people go to order clothes, all of those suppliers, those items are going to start drying up aren't they, because they're not coming in from China? So there's going to be incredible ramifications.

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BAPTIST: It will differ sector by sector. So garments and textiles is already a pretty diversified supply chain. There's a lot of capacity in Vietnam, in Bangladesh, in Sri Lanka. And actually, the trade war did already cause quite a lot of garments manufacturing to move already over the last 12 months. It's very agile supply chain, so orders can move around pretty quickly.

Some of the sector that I think is going to struggle the most is going to be electronics because electronic supply chains are very rigid. They rely into having a lot of specialist staff and specialist suppliers and his real economies from being co-located in the cluster with other similar firms. So it's not so easy to move -- to move electronics manufacturing around, and that's both in terms of China's applying to other markets, but then also the components that other countries are selling into China. So I think that's where we'll see most disruption.

CHURCH: Yes, of course. With all the infrastructure already established, that would be very difficult, wouldn't it? Simon Baptist, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it.

BAPTIST: Thank you.

CHURCH: We'll take a short break here. Still to come, Democratic presidential hopeful Joe Biden is going after his rivals as he trails in third place in a new CNN poll ahead of the New Hampshire primary. We'll have the details for you just ahead.

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CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. New Hampshire voters are getting ready to go to the polls Tuesday for the first primary in 2020. A new CNN poll shows Democratic hopeful Bernie Sanders leading in the stage with a winner from Iowa Pete Buttigieg in second place. Meantime, after finishing fourth in Iowa, Joe Biden is now on the offensive against his rivals. CNN's Jessica Dean has the details.

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JESSICA DEAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Former Vice President Joe Biden is spending Sunday talking to voters here in New Hampshire ahead of Tuesday's primary. This after we've seen him take a much more sharpened attack toward his two closest competitors, Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg.

In fact, on Saturday we saw his campaign release a video that directly compare the experience of Joe Biden as vice president to that and Pete Buttigieg as mayor of South Bend, really knocking the mayor's experience and saying that he doesn't have the experience to be president on day one, which is an argument that Joe Biden has made for months now. Now today, there was a little bit of a softer tone on the trail but he did say this take a listen.

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JOE BIDEN (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Not a single person has won without overwhelming support from the black community, overwhelming, overwhelming, OK.

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DEAN: Joe Biden there alluding that he is the candidate that gets overwhelming support from black voters. And that is what polling data has shown as we get closer to South Carolina. The campaign certainly ready to get to Nevada, get to South Carolina, where there are more voters of color who will participate in this nominating process.

They've long maintained that this top -- that the first four nominating states are to be taken as a package, that you really can't make an assessment of where the race is until we get there because you want to see all the Democratic electorate participating in the primary process. They argue that once that happens, that Joe Biden is going to be in a much stronger position.

What they didn't count on, is him coming in so far behind Pete Buttigieg in Iowa. The question is, will that happen again here in New Hampshire on Tuesday? We'll find out. In New Hampshire, Jessica Dean, CNN.

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CHURCH: And we'll take another short break. Still to come, a storm slams Northern Europe with high winds and heavy rain, and the danger may linger for another couple of days. That's next on CNN NEWSROOM.

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CHURCH: Powerful winds are ripping across northern Europe thanks to the storm Ciara. These beachgoers could barely hold their own in the Netherlands. And in Denmark, some drivers were likely to escape unharmed when a strong wind gust knocked a caravan onto its side. Incredible images there. And ITN's Neil Connery has more now on how this storm has impacted the United Kingdom.

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NEIL CONNERY, CORRESPONDENT, ITN: Storm Ciara's arrival lived up to the forecaster's warnings. In Yorkshire, the rising waters let residents in a desperate race to protect their homes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So really what we're doing is trying to protect as best we can. As you can -- you can see. this is fairly horrendous.

CONNERY: Siren sounded to alert those living near the riverbanks of the impending floods.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE)

CONNERY: In between the bands of severe weather, the vast volume of water spilled out wherever it could. Fire and rescue crews did what they could in the face of the powerful storm.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can sum it up in one word, grim. And that's through the whole of the valley.

CONNERY: Ciara's impact on transport was felt far and wide, but Heathrow pilots contended with extreme winds, not every attempt to land first time proved successful. On the railway, some lines were blocked by debris like this trampoline with speed restrictions in place. It was a challenging day for travelers.

In Hastings, this lifeboat crew battled severe gales as they went to rescue a surfer. Thankfully despite the conditions, the crew and the surfer all returned safely. In Hawick in the Scottish Borders, this swollen river spell disaster for this cafe. In North Wales, flooding brought misery for motorists and residents. Business owners said they'd never seen anything like it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Within an hour, it was four and a half, literally couldn't get through to the back room because the kitchen come off the wall, the fridge freezer has fallen down over the door.

CONNERY: The forecasters had predicted that storm Ciara would pack a punch and for much of the country that's been borne out. Here in West Yorkshire, the cost and impact of the floods has been devastating.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I've saved my soul for that sort of ornaments, plants. Pets are all upstairs.

CONNERY: Tonight, Rachel Hayes is one of those here counting the cost after her home was flooded.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is terrible. This is going to take months to sew out. And this is going to affect a lot of people on this road.

CONNERY: In the deserted streets nearby, storm Ciara's worst may have moved on, but her impact is just sinking in.

(END VIDEOTAPE) CHURCH: And Karen Maginnis is in the CNN Weather Center. She joins us with more on this. Just incredible the impact of this. How much longer will people need to deal with it?

KAREN MAGINNIS, CNN INTERNATIONAL METEOROLOGIST: Well, we are far from finished with it. But yes, Rosemary it was wide expanse of real estate all across the British Isles now moving in and affecting areas right around the lowland's region, all across France, and into Germany.

We're seeing Denmark with some high wind gusts reported here. All of this associated with a very powerful jet stream. I mean, exceptionally powerful. So powerful that we knew days in advance that we were going to see these exceptional winds that they're saying just off the coast of the British channel or the Bristol Channel, they could see some offshore wave heights, six meters or so.

Now that would be at high tide as well, but as this jet stream, again the strong winds across the British Isles, we are looking at the wind of the rain also impact the mainland all the way from Paris, to Frankfurt, to Munich, heavy rainfall here. We talk about the winds but we also saw those images of the flooding. Some areas saw in excess of 100 millimeters, some wind gust as high as 200 kilometers per hour. Not everybody saw winds like that, but certainly in that 100 kilometer per hour range.

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When you see speckly images -- satellite imagery like this, it tells you that there's cold air in the atmosphere. And indeed, across Scotland into the Highlands, we're looking at quite a bit of snowfall, along with the gusty winds could produce some near-blizzard or blizzard conditions. Many wind reports, not just across the British Isles and Ireland, but also across the mainland, into France, into the Netherlands, also across Poland is starting to pick up some strong winds but certainly into Germany as well.

We are looking at very heavy rainfall to continue again. Look at these offshore waves that we've seen built here in the last day or so. As I mentioned, the computer models were spelling this out a couple of days in advance. Here's kind of the swath that was affected by that very strong jet stream and has impacted and left its mark just about everywhere we look. Rosemary back to you.

CHURCH: All right, many thanks to you, Karen. I appreciate it. And thank you for joining us this hour. I'm Rosemary Church. I'll be back with another hour of news in just a moment. You're watching CNN. Do stay with us.

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