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More Than 1,000 Dead, 43,000 Infected Globally; First Ballots Cast In New Hampshire Primary At Midnight; Ireland And Germany Shake Up Political Landscape; Coronavirus Outbreak; Health Precautions Take a Toll on Beijing Business; U.K. Seeks to Modify Terror Laws After Knife Attacks. Aired 1-2a ET

Aired February 11, 2020 - 01:00   ET

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JOHN VAUSE, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hello, everyone. I'm John Vause. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM live from Studio 7 at CNN's World Headquarters in Atlanta. Ahead this hour, the coronavirus' most deadly day so far, pushing the global death toll past 1,000, made fears the total number of confirmed cases has been dramatically underreported.

The next test for Democrats vying to face Donald Trump and the opinion polls predict a bad night for the one-time front runner, and a surge for another who has yet to start campaigning. And political upheaval from Ireland and Germany, the party of the IRA Sinn Fein surges in the general election and Angela Merkel's handpicked heir calls it quits.

The Wuhan coronavirus outbreak has just reached a bleak milestone. More than 1,000 people around the world have died from the disease, most cases in mainland China. The country recorded more than 100 deaths just on Monday. Two senior health officials in the outbreak of the epicenter Hubei Province have reportedly been fired.

The government says at least 2,000 patients from that region though have been treated and discharged. President Xi Jinping who's been largely absent during the outbreak made a rare public appearance at the Beijing hospital on Monday trying to reassure the country that they will get through this.

Meantime, in Japan, the number of infections on the Diamond Princess cruise ship has jumped 135. Authorities say they will not test all 3,700 people on board, but they will test people with fevers and those who have had close contact with other infected passengers. CNN's Matt Rivers joins us from Yokohama, Japan where the ship has been docked, and Steven Jiang live in the Chinese capital of Beijing.

Steven, we'll start with you, a President Xi always noticeable by his absence, especially in recent weeks. So has there been any attempt to explain where he's been, what he's been doing, and why he suddenly emerged now?

STEVEN JIANG, CNN SENIOR PRODUCER: You know, John, in Chinese culture dating back to the days of the Emperor, there's always this mentality when something goes horribly wrong in the provinces, people tend to blame local authorities whereas the central leadership tends to be the wise guys. They may just have been unaware of what's been going on.

So I think there's some of that going on. As you have heard, two officials in Hubei province, they have been sacked just when President Xi Jinping re-emerged in state media. And this, of course, has been noted around the country and indeed around the world because of what you mentioned, he had largely been absent in state media for the past two weeks.

But now, of course, he has reappeared, toured in these facilities in Beijing talking to local residents, in a sign of times wearing a surgical mask saying maybe we shouldn't shake hands. He also, of course, talk to a medical workers on the front line via video conferencing. All these images, of course, are meant to address the questions of his role in the government's response to this outbreak, as well as some power dynamics within the ruling Communist Party.

You know, these are images that meant to really reinforce the notion that the most powerful leader in China in decades is indeed in command, in control of the government's containment effort, and also what the people's leader as he has been described cares about the people. But John, I think the issue remains to be unless he shows up in Wuhan, which is some 1000 kilometers away from Beijing, there's still going to be a lot of skeptics in terms of what is really going on and how under control the situation is at the epicenter of this outbreak. John.

VAUSE: Steven, thank you. To Matt Rivers now. So Matt, the only place in the world with more confirmed cases of the coronavirus right now, more than that ship, is China. Is anyone looking at this and saying hey, we have to say differently here for the passengers and crew on board before someone actually dies.

MATT RIVERS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: As of now, no. The plan is to remain in this quarantine period. It's been two weeks -- it's going to be two weeks. February 19th is when this quarantine period will end. And the reason why Japanese health officials say they are sticking to this plan is because they believe even though there was a sharp increase in cases on board that ship behind me yesterday, an increase of 65 cases from the day before, they believe that all of those people contracted the virus before the quarantine went into effect. That is what they are sticking to here.

And that's what I talked a little bit about yesterday with one of the vice-ministers of health here in Japan. We also spoke about their ability to test people on board. They're going to try and test everyone but it is an issue of capacity. Here's a little bit of our interview with one of Japan's vice-ministers of health.

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GAKU HASHIMOTO, VICE MINISTER OF HEALTH, LABOR AND WELFARE, JAPAN (through translator): We understand everyone is anxious. Spending 14 days in small spaces is very difficult. So we need to take care of people, especially those with pre-existing conditions and the elderly. We're doing our best to be ready and test those who are higher risk first, and then bring them to special facilities should they test positive.

RIVERS: How challenging has been has this been for your government to try and deal with a problem that is not of your making?

HASHIMOTO: This ship has many nationalities on board. So it's a problem involving many countries. They're all asking for our help, so we have to take responsibility for this. Our primary goal is to prevent a pandemic in our own country, but at the same time, we want everyone on board to get home safely, so Japan can do this alone. We need lots of cooperation from other countries to make this work.

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RIVERS: To that end, the United States Centers for Disease Control has brought somebody in here to the U.S. embassy to try and assist. But John, they are expecting the number of cases here to keep going up. They say the gestation period of this virus is two weeks and so it is not going to be a surprise if later on today, we hear that there are more cases coming on this ship.

And it's unnerving, especially for the people that we have spoken to onboard, but health officials continue to stick to the line that the people who have gotten diagnosed over the last couple days contracted the virus before the quarantine period started.

VAUSE: OK. Matt, thank you. Matt Rivers there live for us in Yokohama where the cruise ship is docked, and also Steven Jiang, as always, live on T.V. for us in Beijing. I appreciate you both. Thank you. Just a short time ago, residents of three tiny towns in New Hampshire cast their first votes in the state's primary in a midnight tradition.

And the famous of the three (INAUDIBLE) former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg received the most votes even though he's not officially on the ballot. But overall, among all three early voting towns, Senator Amy Klobuchar came out on top with a total of eight votes. Senator Bernie Sanders came in second place with four. A reminder here that these towns combined have a population of about 70 people by the latest estimates.

As for the rest of New Hampshire, they'll vote in the nation's first primary as polls open in the coming hours. And the latest opinion polls show that Senator Bernie Sanders in the lead 29 percent of the vote according to a CNN-University of New Hampshire tracking poll, and 25 percent according to a Quinnipiac University poll.

Jessica Levinson is with the Center for Government Reform at Loyola University Law School joins us now from Los Angeles. OK, Jessica, this is, of course, a big night for Democrats. Clearly, irresistible for the U.S. president who has to be the center of attention. And so Donald Trump held a campaign rally in New Hampshire just a few hours ago. This is what he said. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We have more in this arena and outside of this arena then all of the other candidates, meaning the Democrats put together and multiplied times five. And the fake news, these guys will never report that. They'll never report.

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VAUSE: I don't know what to believe on that last video. Yes, Donald Trump is finding out the crowd size thing worked out. There is a big crowd there for him. But does it matter? Anywhere at that Trump rally, are they likely to vote for a Democrat and vice versa? Anyone going to a Democrat rally, are they likely to vote for Donald Trump? You know, this will energize you know Democrats, I guess, in a way and Democrats energize Republicans. So seems like a wash.

JESSICA LEVINSON, PROFESSOR, LOYOLA UNIVERSITY: I think both sides frankly, are very energized already. So I mean, your question goes to the heart of this fundamental issue when it comes to American politics, which is polarization. It's an overused word, but it's so true. So if you look at where the American electorate used to be, it was more like a bell curve. Now it looks more like a U where people are basically on either side.

And so, no. Nobody who came to that Trump rally was thinking, I don't know, I'm kind of on the fence for Pete Buttigieg. And vice versa, nobody went to a Warren rally and thought, I don't know I might keep the current president of the United States. It is very good at -- I mean, President Trump's rally is very good at sucking up the oxygen in the room. And so to the extent that was the goal, I think it is largely successful.

VAUSE: If there is enthusiasm to be found on the Democrat's side, it's not anywhere around and Joe Biden. The former vice president's bid for the White House seems to be bleeding out. For the first time, he's no longer the national front runner. I mentioned the polls earlier. The Quinnipiac University poll has Bernie Sanders in the lead nationally, then Biden, then surprisingly, Mike Bloomberg.

And then if you had a general election, head to head, Trump loses to all the Democrat candidates but he loses by the biggest margin to New York Mayor -- former New York mayor Mike Bloomberg. And Bloomberg has done all this without actually stepping a foot inside Iowa or New Hampshire.

So with Biden fading and Bernie in the lead, are Democrat now looking to Bloomberg as this candidate who can win over, you know, not just the Democrats, but Independents and Republicans who may be wavering on the fence about Trump?

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LEVINSON: Yes and no. So I think a lot of people who are looking at Michael Bloomberg and saying he's our hope, he's the person who can -- and this is what Democrats care about the most -- take on Donald Trump. Can I imagine him in a debate against Donald Trump? Can I imagine him getting the better of Donald Trump in the debate?

One thing that's important to remember for Michael Bloomberg, as you mentioned, he hasn't actually campaign. He's just essentially blitzkrieg us with ads. And so what we see a lot of times with candidates is they tend to be very popular before you see them, for instance, in the debate, before they lose momentum in an early state.

And so this is in a weird way before he really have to interact with the other candidates, I think the moment for Michael Bloomberg. I'm not sure that this is going to lead him to the nomination. He has a risky path by essentially saying I'm forgetting the early states, and I'm putting my money into places like California. Now, if he wins a ton of delegates in California, that could be a real game-changer.

VAUSE: Super Tuesday is I think is the first time he will actually stand in a primary race against everyone else. But so far, he has a ton of money and he has spent a ton of money. The last few months of 2019, he spent more than every other candidate combined, and that includes President Trump. And more than double the rest on advertising. The result of that, complaints it seems from those who do not have billions and billions of dollars. Listen to this.

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SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D-MA), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I don't think anyone ought to be able to buy their way into a nomination or to be President of the United States.

SEN. AMY KLOBUCHAR (D-MN), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I didn't come from money. And I just simply think people don't look at the guy in the White House and say, can we get someone richer? I don't think they think that.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There are millions of people who can desire to run for office, but I guess if you're worth $60 billion, and you could spend several $100 million on commercials, you have a slight advantage. That is nonsense.

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VAUSE: Is Bloomberg really buying the election here? I mean, he's buying a platform for a message which gets a very wide reception. But it fairly sound like the message that it's a waste of money.

LEVINSON: Well, it is. But let's be honest. In American politics, money is considered speech. That's why anytime you try and limit money in politics, you have to do a First Amendment analysis. I apologize for that, but I'm a law professor. I had to say it. And so, is Michael Bloomberg actually trying to buy votes? He's trying to buy good P.R.

All of the candidates that we just heard would love to have that war chest. One moment of caution though. What we see is a lot of time when a candidate has that big of a war chest, it really matters how they got it. So, Michael Bloomberg being a self-funded candidate does historically have a basically a threshold he has to pass because he never built up that infrastructure. He never built up that moment of grassroots support. He never had a selfie line, essentially.

And so is he able to, you know, flood the airwaves? Absolutely. Will people look and say maybe there's something there. It does give you a huge lead. But is it enough to take you over the finish line? Historically, not always --

VAUSE: Well, it did work in Dixville Notch because we're just hearing that he actually won, what it was, half a dozen votes in Dixville Notch. So that $300 million in advertising paid off for those couple of votes. But here's an example of what you actually get in terms of advertising from Mike Bloomberg. This is what he's been putting out there.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall.

TRUMP: Build that wall. Build that wall.

GEORGE W. BUSH, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Americans are generous and strong and decent not because we believe in ourselves.

TRUMP: I like to punch him in the face.

BUSH: But because we hold beliefs beyond ourselves.

TRUMP: Grab them by the (BLEEP).

RONALD REAGAN, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The future doesn't belong to the faint-hearted.

TRUMP: This is that crap we have to put up with.

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VAUSE: I can't believe he's taking this long for someone to that ad. Axios is reporting the scale of Bloomberg's stuff build up a national advertising spend unprecedented in modern American politics. His operation is going to resemble his own personal political party. You know, we already have the Republicans who sort of sold their souls to Donald Trump in this cult of personality thing. Democrats potentially, are they about to do something similar?

LEVINSON: I don't know that Michael Bloomberg has the same type of cult of personality. I think it would be a cult of electability. Essentially, who is the safest bet. You know, Michael Bloomberg doesn't tend to engender the same level of passion that Donald Trump does. And so will they sell their soul?

I mean, I think that people will start taking a closer look now that he is increasingly showing viability in the polls. They'll look at his record when he was mayor. They'll look at past statements he's made. He definitely has some things that people can has some things that people can oppose. And I think that he'll get more of a full vetting. At this point, he hasn't really gotten beat up in the press so much. He's just bought essentially a bunch of really expensive brochures to tell us how amazing he is.

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VAUSE: And he's willing to spend $2 billion to tell how amazing he is. Jessica, thank you. Good to see you. I appreciate it.

LEVINSON: Thank you.

VAUSE: Well, a political shakeup in two European countries. In Ireland, the party of the IRA now a major player in national politics day after weekend's elections. Plus, it was a future made in her image. But now, Angela Merkel's plans to Germany are in disarray after her hand-picked successor decided (INAUDIBLE).

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PEDRAM JAVAHERI, CNN INTERNATIONAL METEOROLOGIST: CNN weather watch time. Meteorologist Pedram Javaheri watching the conditions across the southern United States, in northern Mexico, where wet weather has been prevalent, in fact, severe storms, and another risk for significant flooding possible into the Gulf Coast states has been getting multiple rounds of wet weather that hammer this particular region.

And cold enough air once you work your way back towards portions of Western Texas, into parts of the plains there to support snow showers coming down. But again, concern here is the amount of water already saturating the soils, the river levels on the rise, and additional rounds of rainfall. But some larger cities, Atlanta included, could see some flooding across the region.

Notice for February where statistically we are in the coldest time of the year. This is an incredible run of warmth well above the average in New York City up to 12 degrees. We do drop off rather sharply Friday into Saturday. But beyond this, this time next week, we're right back where we started, temperatures above average yet again into some of the colder regions of the United States at least what you expect for this time of year.

New York rain showers are on nine degrees, while in Denver up to about one, Chicago dry weather expected also sitting at one into the afternoon. Kingston blustery weather into the 30s there, while in Mexico City an enjoyable afternoon, plenty of sunshine in store, 27 degrees is what we're looking at. And work your way a little farther towards the south, La Paz of course, into the higher elevations we go, highs there around 12 degrees.

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VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. A sudden upset in Ireland on the political side of things and a shock announcement from Germany. First to Ireland with a left-wing Sinn Fein party and its leader Mary Lou McDonald have won the popular vote in the weekend election. But the center-right Fianna Fail finished with the most number of seeds. Sinn Fein ran a small field candidates but it has now shifted the political landscape. In Germany, Angela Merkel's succession plan has derailed. Her handpicked heir says she will not be the next chancellor. And that can certainly impact Mrs. Merkel's legacy. Dominic Thomas, CNN's European Affairs Commentator joins us now live from Los Angeles. Good to see you, Dom. It's been a while.

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DOMINIC THOMAS, CNN EUROPEAN AFFAIRS COMMENTATOR: Hi. Hi, John.

VAUSE: When a plane crashes, it's rarely just one factor to blame. There's often multiple failures which lead to this crash. So looking at the result for the established parties in Ireland, you know, what were the factors here? Was it the cost of living, house prices, overcrowded hospitals? How much of this is actually being driven by the reality of a post-Brexit world?

THOMAS: Well, I think it's absolutely clear, John, that the Brexit vote and that the withdrawal agreement was the catalyst for calling an early election here in the Republic of Ireland, tremendous uncertainty around the border, the future of the Good Friday Agreement. And I think the fact remains that people both in Northern Ireland and in the Republic of Ireland, of course, where the election took place, have felt that throughout the Brexit process, their concerns were not taken seriously.

And it is clear that Sinn Fein that performed as you mentioned so well in this election is clearly and unambiguously a pro-EU and pro-Irish unification party. But having said that, it was not the central concern in this election. There is on the one hand, this kind of fatigue with the center-right coalition that's been in power essentially for the past 100 years.

And at the same time, what you had was Sinn Fein running an incredibly ambitious political campaign, a manifesto for changed with a new 50- year-old leader that specifically address the concerns not just of the Irish people, but I think also the younger generation, people aged between 18 and 35, that were basically kids or teenagers, at the times of the Good Friday Agreement going back to the troubles that ended in 1998.

And so what we see people concerned about so much about that particular past, but have this capacity to move on now, and to perhaps move on what Sinn Fein formerly stood for, and to be more concerned with the present and the future than hindered by this very complicated past.

VAUSE: If Sinn Fein used is to have a role in government, forming a coalition will be the hardest thing I think they'll be facing here. Now, listen to the Prime Minister Leo Varadkar. Here he is.

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LEO VARADKAR, PRIME MINISTER OF IRELAND: In order to form a government together, you have to have the same -- roughly the same views around the courts and the criminal justice system, around how the economy and society should be run, and also how democracy should function.

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VAUSE: So essentially, the two major parties -- now there's three, but the two -- the two traditional major parties have ruled out a coalition with Sinn Fein, so that kind of leads this hodgepodge of other smaller parties out there. Could they actually form a government without the two major parties? Do the numbers at this point add up so they could go on alone?

THOMAS: Yes. Well, it's interesting because certainly as far as Varadkar guys and the liberal conservatives, they've ruled out, you know, crossing that red line and working with Sinn Fein. But it's unclear really as to whether his former coalition part are now marching, is willing to entertain discussions with this new leader, and with what Sinn Fein represents. And while at the same time, I think acknowledging that the Irish people have voted in a quite a significant way to indicate change, supporting also the greens that voted it.

And so there is a pathway in that respect for this to happen. And it wouldn't be that unusual when you look at elections in Europe over the last four or five years, where so many traditional party configurations have changed and allowed and pave the way for new forms of government that in some way have allowed to kind of freshen up some of these political landscape. So there's a possibility here that they could make it into power.

VAUSE: Well, there's also a big shake-up of the political order in Germany. Merkel's hand-chosen heir apparent as party leader Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer, I think is the name, has seen an uprising within the party at a provincial level. That's why her own party officials defied a ban which had prevent any cooperation with a far-right -- any far-right anti-immigration, anti-Islamic groups. Here's AKK, as she's known, explaining what should we be doing?

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ANNEGRET KRAMP-KARRENBAUER, LEADER, GERMAN CDU (through translator): As far as I'm concerned, this has no impact on the stability of the grand coalition government. I was the party leader, and I am the party leader, and I will remain in this position for the foreseeable future. What I have said is that I will not run for Chancellor. But other than that, the situation has not changed.

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VAUSE: No big change. She's not running for chancellor. I mean, come on. She's just a lame-duck leader now, right?

THOMAS: Absolutely. I mean, it's a complete misreading of what's been happening in Germany for the last few years. In 2017, when Angela Merkel ran as the leader, which remember, this is peculiar arrangement right now, where you have a leader of the party that's different from the chancellor of the party that's in power, at the moment at which Angela Merkel essentially ran for her fourth bed for a chancellorship in 2017, when everybody knew this would be her last go at this. And essentially it opened up the floodgates for what was this proliferation of smaller political parties entering the German parliament, seven of them if you count the CDU CSU, and it made it incredibly difficult then to form any kind of coalition.

Angular Merkel here in picking AKK that was really known as the mini- Merkel was absolutely intent on making sure that not only would her legacy be secured through this particular leader, but also that the people waiting in the wings, who are also going to be waiting in the wings against now, and who've wanted to take the political party further to the right are going to be vying for this particular position.

The whole point of being the leader of the CDU is that you are going to lead the -- this particular party into the 2021 election. And so you have huge uncertainty here, a further weakening of this coalition, and uncertainty not just for the future, I would argue of the German political landscape, but of Europe in general.

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VAUSE: It's sounding very messy, to say the least. Dominic as always, it's good to see you. Thank you.

THOMAS: Thanks, John.

VAUSE: Time for a short break. When we come back, an American couple on a vacation cruise now separated by the coronavirus. One confined to the ship, the other in hospital.

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VAUSE: Welcome back, everybody. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM.

I'm John Vause with the headlines this hour.

Voters in three tiny towns cast the first ballots in the New Hampshire presidential primary at midnight on Tuesday. Only a handful of people live in those towns, overall Senator Amy Klobuchar was out in front, with a grand total of eight; followed by Senator Bernie Sanders with four votes; and the former vice president Joe Biden and South Bend Indiana mayor, Pete Buttigieg both received two votes.

A big upset in the Irish polls. The left wing Sinn Fein Party has taken the popular vote in Ireland's weekend elections. But the center right Fianna Fail emerged as the party with the most seats-- 38 to Sinn Fein's 37. 35 for the outgoing government party which means no one has a majority. Lawmakers say talks of forming a government could actually be long and drawn out and quite painful.

The worldwide death toll from the Wuhan coronavirus has now topped 1,000. China reported more than 100 deaths on Monday alone making it the deadliest day since the outbreak began.

Meantime officials say they have treated and discharged more than 2,000 patients in Hubei province -- the epicenter of the outbreak.

Well, a number of coronavirus cases on the Diamond Princess cruise ship has doubled to 135 in just the past day. But Japanese authorities say it would too difficult to test everyone on the quarantine ship.

CNN's Will Ripley spoke with one couple, now separated by the virus.

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MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: The death toll from the coronavirus jumped again. The number of --

WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The headlines are grim. Each day seems to bring more bad news.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A grim milestone for the coronavirus.

RIPLEY: -- Often overlooked in the Wuhan coronavirus hysteria, patients like Rebecca Frasure from Oregon.

REBECCA FRASURE, CORONAVIRUS PATIENT: This is the door --

RIPLEY: Frasure is one of a growing number of Americans to test positive for coronavirus on this cruise ship, the Diamond Princess, under quarantine in Yokohama.

Japan has coronavirus patients under quarantine at hospitals nationwide, including this one in Tokyo.

We think we know where Rebecca's room is. In fact, there she is. She's standing in the window now. Rebecca -- here we are. Hi. How are you doing?

It turns out -- she's doing just fine. Barely has any symptoms, the majority of coronavirus patients don't end up dead or seriously ill, the majority recovered.

Do you know what they're giving you for coronavirus? What kind of treatment they're giving you.

FRASURE: They have not given me any actual medication or any fluids or anything for the virus.

RIPLEY: She says the hardest part is being away from her husband, Kent (ph). That's him, waving at us from their quarantine cabin. Kent takes his temperature every day. Every day he still does not have the virus.

KENT FRASURE: I don't know. 37.3 -- I really don't have that much concern over it right now.

RIPLEY: The number of sick passengers on the Diamond Princess grows by the day, including two of their close friends on the ship, a couple they saw up to five times a day -- both with barely any symptoms.

K. FRASURE: This fear, of you know, a mob mentality for the fear is just unwarranted. RIPLEY: Rebecca was talking about the people online and the things

they were saying.

K. FRASURE: Just today, I got a message from somebody to don't come people

R. FRASURE: I've actually got a couple of like very frightening messages. People can be really nasty.

RIPLEY: She says they can also be really nice -- flooding her phone with messages of love and support -- a welcome distraction when she's stuck in a place like this.

If you're going to be choose between being on the cruise ship or being in the hospital room, which would you say is the better place to kind of hang out for these next 14 days?

R. FRASURE: Well, I could say that really the cruise ship still.

RIPLEY: You'd rather be on the cruise ship.

R. FRASURE: Yes.

RIPLEY: She says people need to take the virus seriously. They also needs to keep things in perspective. This year, Wuhan coronavirus has killed hundreds. Every year, seasonal flu kills hundreds of thousands.

K. FRASURE: Just take care of yourself, but there is no reason to panic.

RIPLEY: And wash those hands.

K. FRASURE: Wash those hands -- absolutely.

RIPLEY: The Frasures say it's time to stop living in fear, even as they live on the front lines of a global health emergency.

Will Ripley, CNN -- Tokyo.

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VAUSE: One of the highlights for any visit to Beijing is a visit to the shopping district with the silk market and (INAUDIBLE) market, the most famous and normally the most popular but not now. The crowds everywhere seem to have just disappeared.

CNN's David Culver looks at the outbreak's impact on businesses and workers.

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DAVID CULVER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You're looking at the post lunar new year holiday rush on the streets of Beijing. Most years you'd see millions of migrant workers going back into China's capital.

But this year, a much slower pace, and thin crowds. The normally bustling shopping districts desolate, on the outside at least. You think you'd find more life indoors? Health checkpoints like this one screen people at every entrance of the shopping mall. Sanitized only to enter a sterile and near empty space.

On any other given Sunday, specially winter, malls like this one would be packed with people. Instead, we're pretty much the only ones there.

Popular Beijing restaurants like this one known for there (INAUDIBLE) cuisine, have had no need to change out the white tablecloth for weeks. Many are scared to even talk face to face to others, let alone share a meal with them.

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CULVER: But there's still a need to make money, and there's still a demand for fresh produce. Instead of wasting their supplies, the restaurant staff has set up stables outside their store front, creating a makeshift farmers market of sorts.

ZHANG RUI, BEIJING RESIDENT (through translator): They can't operate because of the epidemic, so they need to sell out the stocks.

CULVER: It's convenient for customers like Zhang Rui. He's been working remotely in IP for about a week, his company like many here in Beijing encouraging their employees to work from home, but he has noticed a slump in company productivity.

RUI: It's not as efficient as working in the office because it's not very convenient. The colleagues are not physically together.

CULVER: Zhang is still among the fortunate ones. The outbreak has left many without jobs to clock in to.

Huang Keyun video-chatted with us from Anhui in Central China. She like many migrant workers, had expected to travel back to Beijing to return to her job as a nanny.

HUANG KEYUN, MIGRANT WORKER (through translator): My boss told me that he would leave for America. I asked when he would come back but he said he might not return.

CULVER: Now jobless, she's leaving off for two months of extra pay her former employer provided but that is draining with each passing day.

KEYUN: I just stay at home and don't go out. And the government asked us not to go out as well. I just stay home with my family.

And even if she wanted to return to Beijing immediately, she would be expected to self quarantine for two weeks, that's two more weeks without pay.

Many migrant workers facing similar financial struggles. As the government's efforts to stop the spread of the virus intensify, for now at least, there is no containing the growing economic uncertainty.

David Culver, CNN -- Beijing. (END VIDEOTAPE)

VAUSE: After yet another stabbing attack in London, British lawmakers are now moving to end what appears to be a loophole in current law. They hope emergency legislations will keep terrorists behind bars longer. We'll have more on that in a moment.

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VAUSE: Four members of the Chinese military are facing charges in the United States for the largest cyberattacks on record. They're accused of hacking the Equifax credit agency in 2017, stealing trade secrets and the personal data of nearly 150 million Americans.

A U.S. cybersecurity expert says the theft is part of a larger Chinese effort to go after U.S. Companies. The four men accused are currently being sought by the FBI.

In the U.K., lawmakers are considering an emergency law which would prevent convicted terrorists from being released halfway through their sentences. Right now, they are set free without ever seeing a parole board.

We have details now from CNN's Nic Robertson.

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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: To avoid this, newly released convicts committing frenzied knife attacks then shot dead by police, the government is doing this -- new legislation keeping terror convicts in jail longer.

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ROBERT BUCKLAND, BRITISH SUSTICE SECRETARY: Introducing longer and tougher sentences for serious terrorist offenders ending release for them before the end of their custodial term.

ROBERTSON: Reaction has been swift, pointing out problems. The government's own former reviewer of terror legislations says the new law, keeping convicts longer than they or the judge expected may prove illegal.

ALEX CARLILE, REVIEWED TERROR LEGISLATION FOR U.K. GOVERNMENT: What's proposed will definitely be attacked in the courts, or declare that there will be litigation. And I couldn't possibly predict that the outcome will be favorable to the government.

ROBERTSON: And not just illegal, missing a fundamental issue, jails have become hot houses for radicalization, says former politician and counter radical organizer Fiyaz Moghul (ph).

FIYAZ MOGHUL, FAITH MATTERS: The fact is these prisoners are allowed to come together around some of the most charismatic Islamist the most extremists you have. That's got to stop.

ROBERTSON: Terror convict Mohammed Wahabi was one of those charismatic prisoners who got deradicalized in jail.

In this interview conducted ten days before the most recent terror attack, he warned of dangers to come because government deradicalization in jails is failing.

MOHAMMED WAHABI, DERADICALIZED TERROR CONVICT: Unfortunately, they have not produced the result that you want because it's just turning everything into a machine conveyor belt.

ROBERTSON: Usman Rajah (ph) who counseled and helped deradicalize Wahabi Mohammed, also interviewed ten days before the most recent attack, had the same somber prediction.

Is there radicalization taking place in jails?

USMAN RAJAH: There is definitely radicalization taking place in jail. It's a massive phenomenon.

ROBERTSON: So if we don't tackle this phenomenon then there's going to be more cases like the Usman Khan getting out of jail and killing people.

RAJAH: Yes, there's going to be more cases.

ROBERTSON: Over the past year, successive governments have failed to successfully tackle radicalization in jails. The government's most recent report in 2016 called for 69 changes, only a fraction of those have been fully implemented, and the problem is getting worse.

A recent U.N. report predicts as many as a thousand terror convicts could be released across Europe this year.

Not enough is being done to figure out what works, according to Lord Carlile.

CARLILE: We don't know whether it's fit the purpose because there has not been the quality analysis that is needed to tell us whether it fits the purpose.

It certainly needs to be examined.

ROBERTSON: But online, until new legislation is backed up by new deradicalization initiatives, experts say the public are still in danger.

Nic Robertson, CNN -- London.

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