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Small Businesses Still Struggle in U.S.; Interview with Trump 2020 National Press Secretary Hogan Gidley. Aired 10:30-11a ET

Aired September 02, 2020 - 10:30   ET

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JIM SCIUTTO, CNN ANCHOR: Manu Raju, thanks very much.

The CDC has now moved to protect some struggling Americans from eviction through the end of this year. This comes as new data shows that the economy has recovered less than half of the 22 million jobs lost during March and April. goodness, millions of Americans still out of work.

CNN's Vanessa Yurkevich joins me now from New York. So, Vanessa, small business owners, you know, they've been hit particularly hard, a lot of them not surviving. What are they doing? How are those that are surviving managing to stay afloat?

VANESSA YURKEVICH, CNN BUSINESS AND POLITICS CORRESPONDENT: Jim, it's a struggle every single day, and we're seeing an economy really struggling to bounce back. Some of the things we were seeing six months ago, we're still seeing today: thousands of layoffs, small businesses struggling to stay afloat. And really, what Americans need right now is access to their only lifeline, and that is assistance from the federal government.

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YURKEVICH (voice-over): On the streets of Harlem, signs of business on life support.

TAMI TREADWELL, OWNER, HARLEM SEAFOOD SOUL: It's been like a ghost town out here.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): Tami Treadwell is back with her food cart, Harlem Seafood Soul after five months off the street.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Harlem Seafood Soul!

YURKEVICH: What got you back out here on the street again?

TREADWELL: Needing to be able to feed my family.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): Months into the pandemic, millions are still out of work and more than 100,000 small businesses have closed. Treadwell says she applied for grants from the city and a PPP loan, but hasn't received either. TREADWELL: Responses that I've gotten is, is that there isn't enough

money, or try back again, maybe some additional funding will become available, or you just don't hear anything back at all.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): But even with a PPP loan, for some, it didn't go far.

LUISA SANTOS, OWNER, LULU'S ICE CREAM: As it was designed, we ran out of that money a little bit longer than eight weeks it lasted, but still, we are way past that eight-week point.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): Luisa Santos opened Lulu's Ice Cream six years ago in Miami. She immigrated to the U.S. from Colombia for the American dream. Now, she's cutting her salary to keep her employees on part-time, and she's hoping Congress will pass a third stimulus bill for her small business.

SANTOS: We are not in a good place in our economy. And what we need is support to get through the rough patch.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): But the U.S. jobs recovery is stalling. Less than 50 percent of the 22 million jobs lost in March and April are back online; more than a million people have filed for unemployment each week except one since mid-March, and the extra $600 a week in unemployment benefits have expired.

TREADWELL: I'm behind in my rent like everybody else. We're food insecure like everybody else.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): Still, some parts of the U.S. economy are thriving. U.S. tech companies have recovered and then some. The top five in the U.S. are now worth a collective $7 trillion.

But there's a disconnect between Wall Street and Main Street. While stocks are hitting records, up to 40 million Americans could face eviction by the end of the year without a new stimulus bill.

TREADWELL: If you leave us out, we're going to have barren streets, the economy's not going to get back up and running because we are the lifeblood of Main Street America.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): The pandemic is also exposing a harsh reality for women of color: The highest rate of unemployment is among Latina workers.

TREADWELL: Thank you so much.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): And black women in jobs deemed essential to COVID-19 recovery, make up to 27 percent less than white men.

SANTOS: We are being affected more significantly than other business owners, and we need that support.

TREADWELL: I know for a fact, as a black woman, that there has been a social distant -- economic disadvantage for us for as long as I can remember. Please, think about the street vendors who are out there, who are really just trying to make a good honest living.

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YURKEVICH: This is why the stimulus bill is so critical, because it can cover multiple parts of the economy: unemployment, loans to small businesses, and relieving folks of student debt. And what we've seen in the past, Jim, is that when you put money into the hands of Americans like the extra $600 a week or stimulus checks, consumer spending rises and that helps stimulate the economy and ultimately helps spur more job growth -- Jim.

SCIUTTO: Yes, there's a lot of data there that shows those checks immediately translated into business. Vanessa Yurkevich, thanks very much.

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Well, the president of the United States wants you to believe -- without evidence -- that this election will be rigged. Is there any proof? I'm going to ask his campaign about that and many other claims, next.

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SCIUTTO: Welcome back. We are 61 days from the presidential election. In fact, many people with early voting start voting earlier. President Trump continues to claim that the election could be rigged. This, as he pushes a crime-focused re-election strategy into high gear with a trip to Kenosha, Wisconsin.

Joining us now is the Trump campaign's national press secretary, Hogan Gidley. Hogan, thanks for taking the time this morning.

HOGAN GIDLEY, NATIONAL PRESS SECRETARY, TRUMP 2020 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN: Of course, thanks so much for having me on. I do appreciate it.

SCIUTTO: So let's start with the visit to Kenosha. During his trip, the president defended a man, a 17-year-old, now accused of homicide. He did not mention Jacob Blake's name once there. Why is that?

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GIDLEY: Well, a couple of things. First of all, he didn't defend the man you're talking about. What he said was that there's an investigation ongoing. And from the videotapes we've all seen, it appears as though that man was attacked. It appears as though that man did act in self-defense.

But that's the difference between this president -- of course -- and the Democrats and the mainstream media, which is the president wants all the facts to come out before he makes a definitive comment about the case, and about the person in question.

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SCIUTTO: Hogan, is the president endorsing --

GIDLEY: As it relates to Jacob Blake --

SCIUTTO: -- I said -- but just on that -- just because I want to get -- because you made a claim there. So he wants --

GIDLEY: Sure.

SCIUTTO: -- the facts to come out. Is the president endorsing, then, an armed 17-year-old coming from another state and acting as law enforcement? Is this -- the president wants to see that not just in Kenosha, but elsewhere?

GIDLEY: No, he doesn't. In fact, he repudiated that claim and said he was absolutely opposed to that. In fact, a couple nights ago on another network, pointed out the fact that what he wants is for the brave men and women of law enforcement to be able to do their job.

The problem is, so many Democrat governors, so many Democrat mayors have now said, don't do your job, stand down, let these riots, let these looters continue to criminalize our communities. And the president doesn't want that, he wants them to be able to stand up.

But it does make sense just logically. If you don't allow police to do their job, then the American people have to defend themselves some way. And so they have to be cognizant of the fact that so oftentimes, in these Democrat-controlled cities --

SCIUTTO: So you just there --

GIDLEY: -- that the cops can't do their jobs.

SCIUTTO: -- justified vigilantism. You just justified -- you said that if the police doesn't --

GIDLEY: I did not. No, I --

SCIUTTO: -- well, why --

GIDLEY: -- I did no such thing.

SCIUTTO: -- will you or the president say definitively --

GIDLEY: Jim --

SCIUTTO: -- we oppose vigilantism --

GIDLEY: -- we have -- we have a Second Amendment in this country.

SCIUTTO: Can you say those words?

GIDLEY: We have a Second Amendment in this country and when -- the Democrats are doing something quite dangerous. They're saying, first of all the cops can't defend you. Oh and by the way, we also want to strip away your Second Amendment rights. It'd be one thing if they said, we don't want the cops to do their

jobs, but here are a lot of guns to protect yourselves. They're not doing that, they're saying they're going to get rid of both. That leaves American families in grave danger, and the president is against that. He is for safety and security in these communities, and for --

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SCIUTTO: So you won't -- you won't condemn vigilantism?

GIDLEY: -- our families.

SCIUTTO: Just -- I'll give you an opportunity to say, let the cops do their job, we don't want people from out of state coming in and taking on a law enforcement role untrained. Can you say, just definitively, that's a bad idea?

I had the commissioner of New York Police Department yesterday said it's a bad idea.

GIDLEY: No, it is a bad idea.

SCIUTTO: That's a bad idea?

GIDLEY: It is a bad idea, yes.

SCIUTTO: OK.

GIDLEY: And we've said many times --

SCIUTTO: Fair enough.

GIDLEY: -- we want the men and women of law enforcement to be able to do their job, not be hamstrung by local officials.

SCIUTTO: OK, so that's some progress there, that's why we have these conversations.

Let me then ask you, just back to the original question because I wanted to sort of put a pin in that issue first. Why not mention Jacob Blake's name yesterday? I mean, he was shot in the back seven times in front of his kids. You know the outpouring of heartbreak and outrage from many Americans who have seen that, Republican and Democrat. Why not mention his name?

GIDLEY: Look, we all saw that video. It was absolutely horrific, it's terrifying. Obviously, waiting for the facts to come out in totality in there as well. But I'll do you one better, instead of just talking about it, the president made sure the DOJ came in to investigate this as a civil rights violation. That's putting the full weight of the federal government behind this matter, to make sure justice is done.

That's what you want from a president, that's what you want from a leader and the president's done this many times in the past, he's going to continue to do that in the future especially when you saw what happened on that videotape. SCIUTTO: OK. Moving on if we can, the president has been sharing a

whole host of unfounded conspiracy theories, many of them sourced from QAnon, which I know you're well aware of. I just wonder, does the president actually believe some of these theories or is he just trying to keep the support of QAnon people -- many of whom support the president, have visited his rallies, et cetera -- I mean, does he believe some of these things actually?

GIDLEY: I'm confused. What things, what theories?

SCIUTTO: OK, let's go through a couple of them. That there was a plane loaded with thugs wearing all black with gear headed to Washington to do big damage, that's the president there --

GIDLEY: Right.

SCIUTTO: -- and this is something that's been circulated --

GIDLEY: Yes.

SCIUTTO: -- as you know, on those sites. Does the president believe that that's true?

GIDLEY: All right. Well, I haven't spoken with him directly about this. And you know Jim, because you worked in the Obama administration, the information you receive inside the White House is obviously much different and not (ph) as complete --

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SCIUTTO: I was chief of staff to the U.S. ambassador to China, just --

GIDLEY: -- as you (INAUDIBLE) on the outside.

SCIUTTO: -- just as you're going there. But go ahead with your point.

GIDLEY: No, I'm just saying we receive different information on the inside of the building than we do outside the building.

When I worked in the White House, I was privy, obviously, to a lot more complete and total information. I haven't seen the information he's talking about, but it does raise a pretty good question, in that how do all these people get into these communities? Who pays for their flights? Who pays for their travel? Who pays for their hotel rooms? It's a very coordinated effort, I think the question --

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SCIUTTO: OK, so --

GIDLEY: -- should be raised, and of course --

SCIUTTO: -- where is this plane -- the president has a lot of resources, including a Justice Department at his disposal.

GIDLEY: Sure.

SCIUTTO: Where is this plane now? Did the Justice Department or FBI or police make any arrests? Is there an investigation under way, or is the president just sharing something that he heard online?

GIDLEY: Right, again, that's a question you'd have to ask to the White House. I don't work there any more, I'm on the campaign, so --

SCIUTTO: You work for the campaign.

GIDLEY: I know, but I don't know the information from the FBI and the CIA and the Department of Homeland Security because I don't work there anymore. You know that.

SCIUTTO: I know you don't work there, but I'm asking why the president of the United States is sharing something, and if there's no information that you could share in defending him about any police, Justice Department or FBI investigation.

GIDLEY: Well no, I'm just -- no, I'm just saying it's -- yes, I'm just saying it's pretty obvious, when you see these violent mobs of Joe Biden supporters coming out and attacking all types of people, all manners of businesses and you know, kicking people unconscious in the streets, it's coordinated somewhere.

Because the vast majority of the people, like in Minneapolis for example, 80 percent came in from out of town. Kenosha's the same way --

SCIUTTO: I don't know where you get the Biden supporter thing, but let's move on if we can because I want to go through a few -- the many --

GIDLEY: Well hold on, hold -- no, no, no, no, no. No, no. Not one of those people --

SCIUTTO: -- I want to go through many QAnon --

GIDLEY: -- are voting for this president, and you know it. All those people out there are rioting --

SCIUTTO: I don't know how I would (ph) answer that.

GIDLEY: -- against Donald Trump. Absolutely you do, you know that. That's fine.

SCIUTTO: Let's stick to -- let's stick to the facts, Hogan. Another QAnon conspiracy that the president --

GIDLEY: Let's.

SCIUTTO: -- has shared, that all these protests are bankrolled by some very stupid rich people. Now, another one that comes from QAnon, and by the way targets George Soros, which you know the basis of those attacks is anti-Semitism. Does the president believe this? And if so, as you know, the FBI has great tools for tracking funding,

they do it with terrorists around the world. Is there any substance to back up that claim?

GIDLEY: Again, I'm not privy to any information that goes on within the FBI, I don't work at the White House any more, I'm in with the campaign.

But if you're going to argue the factual statement that there are stupid people who are rich? I would tell you that the president's --

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SCIUTTO: That's not what I'm saying.

GIDLEY: -- absolutely right.

SCIUTTO: I'm saying the president said that they're funding this.

Let me go do another one. QAnon, as you know, started with a conspiracy theory that Democrats and Hollywood stars are running a child sex ring out of a pizzeria --

GIDLEY: Yes --

SCIUTTO: -- here in Washington. Does the president believe that QAnon conspiracy theory?

GIDLEY: Again, not to my knowledge. I've had no conversation with him about that, we're not focused on that here.

I do -- I do think it's very important though, there have been a lot of conspiracy theories you're throwing at me, and that's fine. You're aware of the fact that the Obama DOJ found that the hands up, don't shoot conspiracy theory was a complete and total lie on multiple fronts, the investigation proved it, so did forensics.

The fact that CNN and others published countless stories about Russia coordinating with this president to win an election was proved to be debunked. I'm waiting for everyone to return all the awards --

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SCIUTTO: Actually --

GIDLEY: -- they received for that. Up to and including most recently --

SCIUTTO: -- I would read this -- I've been reading (ph) the Senate Intel Committee report --

GIDLEY: -- up to --

SCIUTTO: -- I would read it just on that point, that's not a conspiracy theory.

By the way, the FBI has declared QAnon --

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-- a domestic terrorism threat. Why does the president share stories sourced from a group the FBI has determined a domestic terrorism threat?

GIDLEY: What do you mean, share stories?

SCIUTTO: People in black on a plane, rich people -- again, like I told you, that story is sourced from allegations against George Soros. That's where these --

GIDLEY: Well, you -- again, you --

SCIUTTO: I asked you if he believes the theories, and you say you don't know.

GIDLEY: -- I swear, you guys -- no. No, I'm saying, look, I'm saying, you guys better wake up and smell what you're shoveling. You tell me how those people get here. You tell me where they come from. You tell me why they're coming in from other parts of the country into Kenosha, Wisconsin of all places.

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SCIUTTO: I'm citing the FBI, Hogan Gidley, I'm not making it up --

GIDLEY: Who's funding them? How can they -- how can they shout down --

SCIUTTO: -- the FBI calls QAnon a domestic terror threat.

GIDLEY: OK.

SCIUTTO: Does the president --

GIDLEY: I don't even -- again, we're not focused on QAnon --

SCIUTTO: -- condemn QAnon, based on that assessment?

GIDLEY: -- over here. I've not spoken with him about QAnon. I was there for three years, we never even brought it up.

SCIUTTO: OK, fine.

GIDLEY: It's pointless.

SCIUTTO: Is there anything you spoke with the president about since you're helping to run his campaign? can I ask you for instance why the president has not yet warned Russia --

GIDLEY: Yes, sure. Of course.

SCIUTTO: -- OK, let me ask you this then. The president claims there's going to be a rigged election. The U.S. intelligence community has assessed that Russia is again interfering in the election with the intention of damaging his --

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-- Democratic opponent as they did in 2016. Why hasn't the president --

GIDLEY: Sure.

SCIUTTO: -- taken the simple step of warning Russia from interfering in the election? Why not do that?

GIDLEY: He's talked about that many times, and he's told --

SCIUTTO: He has never warned Russia, he's never warned Russia --

GIDLEY: -- them not to meddle in our elections. That is in -- I'm sorry, that is incorrect, I swear.

SCIUTTO: When has the president --

GIDLEY: You've got to stop --

SCIUTTO: -- when has the president -- when has the president uttered the words, "Russia, do not interfere in our election"? If he has, I will happily play that tape on this broadcast.

GIDLEY: You -- good, I'm going to hold you to that. You guys have to stop peeing on my boot and telling me it's raining. The fact is, the president said that to Vladimir Putin, it's on tape. He literally said, don't meddle in our elections. And it's a far cry --

SCIUTTO: He also said he doesn't believe that Russia --

GIDLEY: -- from what Barack Obama did --

SCIUTTO: -- interfered in 2016.

GIDLEY: -- and didn't do. Joe Biden -- Joe Biden knew that Russia was going to interfere, and they did nothing.

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SCIUTTO: That's not true.

GIDLEY: -- this president put in measures across state --

SCIUTTO: Actually, Obama twice warned Russia away, in fact he used the red line -- he used the red line to issue a direct warning to Vladimir Putin.

GIDLEY: Was this -- sure.

SCIUTTO: Has President Trump in the seven or so conversations he had with Putin --

GIDLEY: Was this before or after he leaned over to Dmitry Medvedev in the Oval Office and said, hey, wait until after the election, got a lot more flexibility then?

SCIUTTO: I'm asking a simple question --

GIDLEY: I'm just -- sure.

SCIUTTO: -- if you're running his campaign --

GIDLEY: And I'm asking you one.

SCIUTTO: Has the president directly warned Vladimir Putin, in any of these private conversations, not to interfere in the election?

GIDLEY: Again, I'm not privy to all of them, but he did it publicly on camera.

SCIUTTO: OK.

GIDLEY: And I look forward to you running that clip, as you promised you would do.

SCIUTTO: And we'll run it right next to the ones where he denied that Russia interfered in 2016.

I want to ask a question, the president has repeatedly raised questions about Joe Biden's --

GIDLEY: He's the only one taking Russia seriously. He's the only one taking Russia seriously, let's not forget, it was the media who laughed at Mitt Romney, who called Russia a geopolitical threat. It was Barack Obama who said the --

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SCIUTTO: Actually I (INAUDIBLE) --

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GIDLEY: -- foreign policy (INAUDIBLE) --

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SCIUTTO: -- book I wrote about Russian interference, I cited Romney's --

GIDLEY: -- all of that -- all of that stuff happened.

SCIUTTO: -- I cited Romney's statement very definitively in a book that I wrote about that.

I'm just curious why the president not just on the election, but we just learned today that the Germans say that Russia poisoned Russian opposition leader Alexey Navalny with novichok. Will the president comment on that? He hasn't commented yet on Russian interference in Belarus and protests there.

I'm just curious where the president's going to make a public comment about any Russian aggression. I mean, the other one being Russian aircraft and ships threatening U.S. aircraft.

GIDLEY: He -- yes.

SCIUTTO: Why not? I mean, it's a fairly easy thing to do.

GIDLEY: He's -- he's done it -- this is the same song, different verse. He's done it before, he'll do it again.

I notice how you're not talking about --

SCIUTTO: When in the last month has the president --

GIDLEY: -- China and Iran --

SCIUTTO: -- called out Russian aggression, can you name (ph) one (ph) --

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GIDLEY: -- who said they want to help Biden, that comment doesn't come up at all.

SCIUTTO: -- can you name one moment in the last month? Can you name one moment in the last month where the president has called out Russian aggression?

GIDLEY: Well, you're talking about a brand-new intelligence report, I don't know if he's going to comment on that today. I'm sure you guys --

SCIUTTO: I cited on Navalny --

GIDLEY: -- will get a chance to ask him that.

SCIUTTO: -- I cited on Russian aircraft threatening U.S. aircraft dangerously, I cited Russian interference in Belarus. We can also bring up Russian bounties and arms sales to the Taliban.

GIDLEY: He's -- look, he's commented on it many times, his spokespeople have commented on it many times from the White House.

You're asking me questions about official action from this president, I'm on the campaign. If you want to have a conversation about 50 years' worth of failure of Joe Biden in elected office, let's do that.

Quit going back --

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SCIUTTO: I thought folks on the campaign could answer questions about the candidate.

GIDLEY: -- Russiagate, it was a complete and total scam and a complete and total hoax.

SCIUTTO: Final question, are -- will the White House release (INAUDIBLE) --

GIDLEY: I can't, I can but you're asking about an official thing. You know that --

SCIUTTO: OK, one thing.

GIDLEY: -- you worked in the Obama administration.

SCIUTTO: Will the campaign --

GIDLEY: You get it.

SCIUTTO: -- will the campaign release record of his visit to the Walter Reed Medical Center?

GIDLEY: Look, does Jeff (ph) just tell you guys to do this? Does Jeff (ph) tell you guys to do this?

SCIUTTO: Hogan, I ask my own questions. No, no, Hogan. Please, don't get personal, it's a waste of time for our viewers. Will the campaign --

GIDLEY: I'm not getting personal, I'm just saying if this is the way this is going to go, then let's be honest about it up-front with the viewers.

SCIUTTO: Because you're not answering -- because, Hogan, you're not answering direct questions. You're saying you don't talk to the president about --

GIDLEY: Look, you tell me the rules, I'll play by them, it's fine.

SCIUTTO: -- these issues.

Final question, will the campaign -- I want to ask you about the White House, since you work for the campaign -- release any of the president's health records with relation to his November 29th visit to Walter Reed?

GIDLEY: We released all those health records when I was there at the White House. In fact, Doc Conley came out and talked about the potential ridiculous smokescreen-slash-conspiracy that the president had some type of stroke, and he said that was absolutely untrue.

it's definitely unfounded. It's dangerous and irresponsible for someone -- could you imagine if one of our people had said something similar about Barack Obama, and they worked for CNN? They'd be run off the air, I don't --

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SCIUTTO: They're saying it every day about Joe Biden.

GIDLEY: -- know if you guys have fired -- I don't know if you guys have fired -- yes, but you know --

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SCIUTTO: Your -- your campaign and the president every day are saying Joe Biden has health issues without basis.

GIDLEY: Yes, right. You don't need any other foreign government, you don't need anybody else to tell the American people what they see with their plain eyes when Joe Biden's trying to read off talking points on a teleprompter and reads off Venezuela top-line messages. He's not together like he was in the past. And that's fine, it happens, he's a nice guy.

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SCIUTTO: Hogan, I want to know what basis you have as --

GIDLEY: My granddad's a nice guy, I don't want him sitting in the Oval Office.

SCIUTTO: -- a doctor -- wait, but is -- does mispronouncing words qualify as -- because I know Yosemite is not Yosemight (ph). You could count instances where the president has mispronounced words. Is that your standard for assigning mental acuity? I'm curious.

GIDLEY: I would love to have a standard for having a conversation about mental acuity when you're talking about Joe Biden saying Arizona's a great city and children love to rub his leg hair, and all black people think alike, and a journalist who's black is a cocaine junkie.

Please, let's apply the same standard. I would love to see a shift in tactic on CNN on that front.

SCIUTTO: Well, there you go, though Hogan, you're making the same -- you're making attacks. Having just said to ask for records of the president's visit to a federal health facility --

GIDLEY: Right.

SCIUTTO: -- reasonable question for a sitting president, is it not?

GIDLEY: Right, absolutely. No one has more strength than Donald Trump, no one can keep up with him. I mean, yes, he's got the best message --

SCIUTTO: All right.

GIDLEY: -- yes he's got the best record, but he's got the best work ethic. My goodness, Joe Biden's been in a basement with his feet kicked up for the last several months. I mean, give me a break.

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SCIUTTO: How many times on the golf course, Hogan? Come on. Listen, it's good that -- let's keep up the conversation. When you're able to answer those questions I asked you about the president -- considering you work for his campaign -- please come back and we will give you every opportunity.

GIDLEY: I'd love to, and I look forward to you running the tape of him telling Vladimir Putin not to meddle in our elections. Thank you.

SCIUTTO: Send it to me today, and we will put that on the air along with his other comments and missed opportunities to make the same comment. Hogan Gidley, best of luck to you.

And thanks so much to all of you for joining us today. I'm Jim Sciutto. NEWSROOM with my colleague John King starts right after a quick break.

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