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Trump Takes Motorcade to Wave to Supporters; White House Lack of Transparency on Trump's Health and Whereabouts; Joe Biden to Frequently Test for COVID-19; Trump Takes Joyride To Wave At Supporters Despite COVID-19; U.S. Sees Most Cases In Five-Day Period Since August; U.K. Admits It Failed To Report More Than 15,000 Cases; Paris Bars To Close As Virus Threat Rises; English Premier League: Sunday Matches Send Shockwaves Through League; NBA Finals: Jimmy Butler Leads Miami Heat To Game 3 Victory; German Bundesliga: Lewandowski Nets 4 To Give Bayern Late Win; French Open: Zverev Says He Was "Completely Sick" In Loss; French Open: Seeds Continue To Fall In Women's Draw; French Open: Nadal, Djokovic On Collision Course. Aired 2-3a ET

Aired October 05, 2020 - 02:00   ET

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MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN HOST: And hello and welcome to our viewers here in the United States and all around the world. I am Michael Holmes. Appreciate your company. We begin with breaking news on the U.S. Donald - the president, Donald Trump's health spending a third night now at the Walter Reed Medical Center.

But unlike other COVID-19 patients who were kept in isolation, this president went on the joyride Sunday evening. These images there of Mr. Trump riding in an SUV while infectious raising doubts about how seriously he is taking this virus even now, especially as he may be endangering the health of the Secret Service agents in that car with him. Mr. Trump tweeting this message before his ride.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: So, it's been a very interesting journey. I learned a lot about COVID. I learned it by really going to school. This is the real school. This isn't the let's read the book school. And I get it and I understand it. And it's a very interesting thing. And I'm going to be letting you know about it.

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HOLMES: Many medical professionals say he didn't learn enough. Here's what two doctors had to say to CNN about the president's outing.

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JAMES PHILLIPS, NONMILITARY ATTENDING PHYSICIAN, WALTER REED HOSPITAL: Why leave? What is the purpose of this? And certainly, looking at the risks of the transmission of COVID-19, what we know was at being in enclosed spaces is dangerous.

Masks are no masks, being inside a vehicle that is hermetically sealed circulates virus inside and potentially puts people at risk.

JONATHAN REINER, CNN MEDICAL ANALYST: So what the president did by insisting on that joyride was expose the Secret Service agents sitting just literally inches away from him to recirculated air and they have to hope that those masks they are wearing are effective.

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HOLMES: Meanwhile, the lack of transparency about the president's condition causing more confusion. The White House physician trying to explain why he's failed to answer basic questions about Mr. Trump's health.

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SEAN CONLEY, WHITE HOUSE PHYSICIAN: I was trying to reflect the upbeat attitude that the team.

I didn't want to give you any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction and in doing so, you know, it came off that we're trying to hide something which wasn't initially true.

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HOLMES: One striking detail doctors say the president is doing well despite the fact that he is taking all the medications you see there on your list in front of you, including the drug dexamethasone. Now, that's a drug typically given to patients seriously ill who are on supplemental oxygen or ventilation.

CNN's Sarah Westwood joins me live from Walter Reed Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland. Let's stop with the drive-by, waving to supporters. One word, why?

SARAH WESTWOOD, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Why is really the important word there, Michael, because the president has faced criticism for potentially risking the exposure of everyone involved in making that outing possible?

But most importantly, the Secret Service agents who rode inside that SUV with the president during that outing. He was wearing a mask and they were wearing medical gear, but as you just heard from the doctors there, that doesn't necessarily mean they're protected.

They were potentially exposed to the virus there and may have to quarantine for two weeks because of their proximity, Two inactively infectious patients in President Donald Trump. But despite all that, the White House is saying that appropriate precautions were taken when the president decided to get in the motorcade and ride by his supporters who have been gathered here for days now at Walter Reed.

They're also saying that the medical team made the decision that that outing was okay, but clearly this is part of the president's efforts to project the sense of health that he has been trying to achieve through twitter video through the White House releasing pictures of him working at Walter Reed.

And in other ways, it does raise questions so, Michael, about just how seriously the president is taking the virus even as he battles it here at the hospital.

HOLMES: Yes, indeed. What we know about the state of both treatment and his condition after another day of confusing and conflicting statements from the medical professionals?

WESTWOOD: Yes, Michael, another day of continuing mixed signals from this White House. Dr. Sean Conley, the president's physician and the team of healthcare providers working with the president did brief reporters here at Walter Reed earlier today.

They said that there have been two, what they describe as transient drops in the president's blood oxygen level, so some concerning signs there.

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And Dr. Conley acknowledged for the first time that the president has received supplemental oxygen since testing positive for COVID-19 and that he was given today a drug called dexamethasone. It's a steroid that is given to patients who are typically on a ventilator or requiring oxygen, so a serious set of developments coming from that press briefing today.

But despite all of that, Dr. Conley said that the president is doing well enough to be discharged soon potentially as soon as later today on Monday. And that was confusing for a lot of people because it just doesn't fit with the image of a patient who is requiring oxygen and requiring the corticosteroids that the president is taking.

Dr. Conley also acknowledged the criticism he'd face from the press briefing he held yesterday, I mean, on Saturday when he said that he would dodge a lot of questions about whether the president had required oxygen since his positive diagnosis.

He declined to answer those questions throughout Saturday, but he said he wasn't trying to be evasive. He was just trying to project the upbeat attitude of his patient and of the team. Of course, his credibility has taken a hit from the Saturday briefing and from the questions that his briefing on Sunday raised as well, Michael.

HOLMES: Yes, absolutely. Good to have you there, Sarah. Thanks. Sarah Westwood at the Walter Reed Medical Center.

All right, let's turn now to Dr. Eric Topol. He is a cardiologist and professor of molecular medicine at Scripps Research. He joins me now from La Jolla in California. Doctor thanks for doing so. I wanted to ask you about this drive-by outing.

The president earlier said he now understands COVID after contracting it and then gets into a car with two other people just to wave at supporters. What was your take on that?

ERIC TOPOL, CARDIOLOGIST: Well, good to be with you Michael. It really seemed preposterous to put some people at risk, for his doctor to let him go out like that of the hospital. It just didn't make any sense at all.

HOLMES: We're still in many ways and we were talking about this earlier, still in many ways having to read between the lines given the opaqueness of official information. What do you make of the known regimen?

There is this experimental cocktail, which hasn't even been given an emergency use authorization, then remdesivir and now this dexamethasone. What does that tell you about his likely condition and with those medications, the risk versus reward factor?

TOPOL: Sure. Well, it's very difficult to interpret because we're not getting the truth, you know, we're not getting the real facts so we have to kind of piece it together. It seems as though he really took ill Friday morning when his oxygen dropped and that may be the reason why a lot of medications were used.

The monoclonal antibody cocktail is something that's really a potent energizing antibody that has not been really, as you say, been approved. There have been nine other people have had it for compassionate use. It makes sense in some respects, but of course, what triggered it isn't clear.

The other two medicines, remdesivir and dexamethasone as you mentioned, they both are used in severe cases. And, you know, what we're told is he only had transient drop in his oxygen blood saturation so, it isn't making sense, unless he had a more severe case and they were just trying to use everything.

The problem with the dexamethasone is that it suppresses the immune response. So, if it isn't a serious condition of the COVID illness, it could actually make things considerably worse.

HOLMES: Yes. Just so many questions unanswered. Another thing that came out was this a lung scan with so-called expected findings, and that could mean anything, of course. I mean, pneumonia perhaps in the past. Lung issues have included that with that so-called (inaudible) ground-glass opacity.

What are the odds of that being it because we are left to guess and, you know, as was also known from others who've recovered from initial infection, there can be lasting impacts from lung scarring and neurological issues and so on?

TOPOL: Absolutely, Michael. I think it's fair to say that he had abnormalities on the CAT scan of his lungs. As you said, the classic for COVID is ground-glass opacification of the pneumonia. And even in people who don't have symptoms of COVID, if you do lung scans, you'll find those.

So, this is pretty clear that it was abnormal and for the hedging to occur, which is when asked the question directly and he said the expected finding. Well, the only thing we had expected is that there was indeed pneumonia.

HOLMES: Yes. Yes. And to that point, you tweeted on Sunday and I'm going to quote you on it, you said, it's very sad to see a doctor now trained to lie. Of course, the truth of all on these medical matters inevitably comes out.

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That, which was so well put, how do you think the doctors are handling, not the medical side, but they inform the public side and what are the risks of omission or playing down realities?

TOPOL: Well, determinate use, play it down. We've heard that before, right?

HOLMES: Yes.

TOPOL: And that's what we're seeing from the doctors, especially Dr. Conley. And it's really unfortunate. If he just told us the truth or if he said, you know, I'd like to tell you about that, but the president has specifically said I'm not to divulge that, but not to make things up or try to sidestep and be evasive.

There's been so much obfuscation here and, you know, this is a serious matter because if the president is losing oxygen significantly or if he's getting drugs that could affect his mental status that changes his capacity to function.

HOLMES: How do patients handle being struck down by the virus and in an emotional sense, I'm curious how it changes people in your experience, especially somebody like the President who's been so cavalier? I imagine it's quite humbling as well as frightening.

TOPOL: Well, I mean, the main thing is it sucks out your energy and profound fatigue and that's why, you know, when you look at the serial video, he looks like he may be making clinical improvement. The videos perhaps tell more than the doctors are telling us.

But, you know, combined with the other symptoms, the difficulty of breathing that he undoubtedly had when his oxygen dropped precipitously, the high fever that he spiked, and we're only seeing (inaudible) confirmed, you know, a couple of days later when they happened on Friday.

So, you know, I think it's fair to say at one point he was really down and out and that's probably why they wanted to get him to the hospital soon as possible. Likely, he resisted that for a while.

HOLMES: Is it worrying that despite the positive outlook being put out an as you say in the videos, they're not looking too bad, is it not true that the progression of many people who have the viruses, that there is often a precipitous drop in the patient's condition a week or even 10 days after initial symptoms? I mean, would you be (inaudible) right now or would you be very cautious? TOPOL: Excellent point. So, what happens is a person can actually get

much more stable for a stretch, as you say, and then they have this dysregulation of their immune system. Their immune system goes into overdrive and it's basically a cytokine storm and especially more common in people of advanced age, so that could happen. So he's not out of the woods by any means. That's why the idea of him going home tomorrow seems a real reach.

HOLMES: Yes, exactly. I just wanted to ask you one other quick question too, because there's been a lot of talk about the president is the most tested person in the world and there is all these tests had been going on, but testing isn't a prevention obviously, is it?

I mean, and finding out that you're positive or negative is secondary to stopping the infection in the first place. And that's been sort of a bad message in many ways.

TOPOL: Absolutely. You know, the tests that were being done routinely, we still don't know when the last negative test was with the president. But those tests were a high sensitivity issues -- that is a lot of false negatives.

And so to rely on that solely is a big mistake. That's why we need masks. That's why we need physical distancing. So, this idea that he could live in a bubble and have frequent test was a flawed one from the start.

HOLMES: Great advice. Dr. Eric Topol, pleasure to speak with you. Thank you so much.

TOPOL: Same here, Michael. Thank you.

HOLMES: Okay. A new poll shows most Americans believe it is President Trump's own fault that he contracted COVID-19. The ABC News/Ipsos poll finds 72 percent of Americans think the president has not taken the risk of getting the virus seriously enough. And the same amount believed he did not take appropriate precautions when it came to his own personal health.

The Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden's campaign announced that on Sunday he again tested negative for the coronavirus. A CNN source familiar with the campaign's testing strategies says Biden plans to take a test every time he travels. And he is hitting the campaign trail this week. CNN's MJ Lee is with the campaign.

MJ LEE, CNN U.S. POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: While President Trump receive treatment at Walter Reed Hospital for COVID-19, Joe Biden's campaign continuing their normal campaign activities. Later today, we're going to see the former vice president travel to Florida.

And what the Biden campaign has announced is that they are now going to make sure that Biden has tested more frequently for the virus than he had been previously. And you'll recall that last Friday shortly after news broke that President Trump had tested positive for the virus, Biden himself announced that he was tested twice for the virus and both of those test results came back negative. [02:14:58]

And we also learned last night, Sunday night that he had taken another test that also came back negative. I also just want to point out heading into this week that the big political event that is coming up is the first and only vice presidential debate. This is going to be between Vice President Mike Pence and Senator Kamala Harris.

And what CNN can report is that the Biden campaign had raised some concerns about the amount of space between Pence and Harris on the debate stage. And after talks and negotiations where they landed, is that instead of they are being seven feet between the two candidates, now we are going to see 12 feet, so more space than originally planned.

And finally, the one thing that is entirely unclear right now because of the president's status, is what is going to happen to the second presidential debate that was slated for later this month. Back to you.

HOLMES: Thanks to MJ Lee. And the next debate will be between Democratic vice presidential nominee Senator Kamala Harris and Vice President Mike Pence. CNN's coverage begins 7:00 p.m. Wednesday on the U.S. East Coast, that's midnight in London and 7:00 a.m. if you're in Hong Kong.

A wave to supporters backfires for president. The new concerns raised by his drive-by after the break.

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HOLMES: Welcome back. The lack of clarity from President Trump's medical team about his health is raising concerns about just how sick he really is with the coronavirus, and it certainly didn't help things when he bolted from the hospital for a short time on Sunday to wave at supporters. Brian Stelter has a look at the fall out.

BRIAN STELTER, CNN CHIEF MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: Hey there, yes. If this photo-op was meant to be reassuring, it actually has the opposite effect. There was an avalanche of concern about the Secret Service officers who were in the car with the president who may have been in danger as a result of this bizarre publicity stunt.

The White House Correspondents' Association who represents members of the media that cover the White House immediately spoke out and denounced the circumstances of this trip because the way how press pool, which is a small group of reporters that are supposed to travel with the president at all times was not notified about this trip and was not with the president during this drive along the road near Walter Reed. Her is a statement from the White House Correspondents' Association pointing out this is a break of protocol that is very concerning

"It is outrageous for the president to have left the hospital, even briefly, amid a health crisis without a protective pool present to ensure that the American people know where their president is and how he is doing. Now more than ever the American public deserves independent coverage of the president so they can be reliably informed about his health."

Those are very true words in the White House Correspondents' Association. We're in the situation in the United States right now where there is a lot of propaganda coming from the White House. These photos that may or may not be staged to make the president look like he is doing very well. What we need is independent news coverage to try to verify those assertions.

We do know according to White House sources telling CNN that the president is watching some of these news coverage. He is paying attention to what's being said about him. CNN's Jim Acosta reports that the president is angry with White House chief of staff Mark Meadows because Meadows went out and told reporters trying to be anonymous that the president was not doing as well as his doctors claimed.

These medical briefings by the doctors of Walter Reed seem to be performances put on for the president, and that is very concerning. And no matter what you think of American politics, this is not a partisan issue. Everybody should have accurate information about the president's health. Back to you.

HOLMES: Julian Zelizer is a CNN political analyst. He joins me now from New York. Great to see you again, Julian. I mean, first of all, what did you make of that drive-by outing, the president, you know, he said he understands COVID under contract -- after contracting it and then gets into a car with two other people to wave to supporters. What do you think about it? It certainly wasn't a coronavirus teaching moment. Was it just ego?

JULIAN ZELIZER, CNN POLITICAL NALYST: Not at all. It showed the opposite of what he was saying. There he is, both endangering people in the car and also just taking this lightly even when he's in the middle of it. I think it sends the exact one message and I don't think it's a show of strength, but it just raises more questions even when he has COVID, does he understand what the nation has been through.

HOLMES: Yes. One of the issues of course, is this is a White House that already has a huge credibility problem and more gabs (ph) and obfuscation on Sunday from the doctors. How big is the, what do we believe factor and how important is it that Americans know the full picture when it comes to the health of their president?

ZELIZER: Well, this is a moment the credibility gap really hurts a president. I don't think many people are fully confident with what the doctors are saying, you know, or what his staff is saying and (inaudible) they don't know what's going on. And transparency is important. I think Americans deserve to know what is the status of the president.

They deserve to know that in the middle of a pandemic when we need all our leaders really working on this issue full-time. And Americans are already voting and I think they deserve to know exactly what the status of the president is. So, this lack of credibility and transparency is a big problem.

HOLMES: Yes, that is true. They are already voting. I did mine the other day. Biden has, meanwhile, removed negative ads while Donald Trump is hospitalized. Now, in purely political terms, should he not be full steam ahead at the moment? Trump not only didn't slow down when Hillary Clinton had pneumonia, but he ridiculed her multiple times, use the illness against her, and the Trump campaign continues on with negative ads.

ZELIZER: Yes. I don't think Biden really has to change his strategy. Obviously, you don't mock the president or you don't say anything that's out of bounds about the president, but Biden and the Democrats can continue to criticize the administration to make an argument about what's at stake in the election.

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There's no reason to just stop the campaign because of this. And in fact, it brings to the table the issue of the pandemic and the policies we need in the next few months or years to deal with it. So, I think Biden would actually make this mistake by going silent. I am sure Republicans will not. And so, let's see what he does.

HOLMES: Yes, exactly. I want to go back to the president's ego if you like, and when it comes to transparency. I mean, CNN is reporting now the president's aversion to appearing weak and sick is what's driving this effort to project resolve as it was called even if what is being projected is not true.

How concerning is that, that there is almost automatic down about what's being said publicly and that the president seems to see this as political rather than a health issue as we sorted that.

ZELIZER: Well, it's obviously not safe for him so that he is not be very careful with his own body. But I do think it reveals how the president has thought about COVID. It is a sign of weakness. It's almost the wrong thing to be worried about it and take steps to make sure it goes away.

And I think through his own actions in the last few hours, he reveals a lot of why his policies look the way they do. He doesn't want to wear masks, he mocks social distancing, and I think it reflects the same thing that's driving him to go out and show he's okay. He is not okay right now.

He needs to recover like a lot of the nation needs to recover. And I think it's pretty problematic.

HOLMES: I wanted to ask you too, I mean, it's not just Donald Trump, of course. It seems like half of Capitol Hill after that the event is starting to test positive. And those diagnoses have sort of enveloped the White House and Congress as well in many ways. How might the reality hitting home potentially change the political narrative we're seeing particularly from the Republican side? (Inaudible) to the virus, I mean. ZELIZER: Yes, it's a big question. Republicans have not changed their narrative very much even when people around them or constituents are living with the nightmare that this pandemic has been. So the question is when it affects them personally, when their own bodies are on the line, does this change how they think about it?

I'm not so sure. I mean, the president's early response suggest even when ill he's not totally changing his narrative. And so I'm not convinced Republicans are going to all of a sudden be public health advocates and joining Dr. Fauci in supporting more aggressive steps to contain this virus right now.

HOLMES: Extraordinary times to be a political analyst. Julian Zelizer, good to see you as always.

ZELIZER: Thanks for having me.

HOLMES: We're going to take a quick break. When we come back here on "CNN Newsroom," more on what we know and what we do not know about when President Trump got the coronavirus and how he is doing now as he spends his third night in the hospital. That's next.

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MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: And welcome back to CNN NEWSROOM, everyone. I'm Michael Holmes. Let's have more now on our breaking news coverage of U.S. President Donald Trump's health.

The president continues, of course, to be treated at Walter Reed Medical Center for the coronavirus. But his doctors say it is possible he could be released later today. Now, despite his contagious condition, the President went on a joy ride in a sealed SUV on Sunday evening, all to just wave out a few supporters, accompanied of course, by Secret Service agents who did wear masks and medical gowns. But as we all know, well, that is not always enough to protect people, when they're in close proximity to someone infected with the virus and in closed quarters like they were

CNN's Kaitlan Collins has been tracking this story from the start. She has the latest details for us now.

KAITLAN COLLINS, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, on a day where the president's physicians revealed that his levels of oxygen had been fluctuating over the last 48 hours, and he actually started to be administered a steroid, in addition to that other antibody cocktail that he had received a day before. This is the day the president decided to leave Walter Reed only for a few moments to participate in a drive by of his supporters who are standing outside the hospital.

Of course, the trip started immediately raising questions about whether or not the President was putting the Secret Service agents who were in the car with him at risk, because as you could see, he was driving by and waving to his supporters, the Secret Service agents were wearing face shields, medical grade mask and gowns over their clothing. Though, the White House did later say that the President's medical team had cleared the trip. Though they did not say which physicians specifically had done so.

Dr. Sean Conley is his primary doctor and the comments that he's been making at two of the briefings they've held in recent days have only raised more questions than they've answered, because he has typically tried to avoid certain questions, specific questions about the president's vitals, even though they are crucially important.

And even in a press conference on Sunday, he revealed that a lot of this has to do with the patient that he's treating. Saying, that he wanted to reflect the upbeat mood of the president, though, of course, he's a doctor and that is certainly not his requirement. It's more to provide an accurate assessment of the status of the President of the United States.

That's something that has raised several criticisms out of the White House as well as the White House staff, including the chief of staff and the press secretary who would not say if President Trump was tested before he went to that debate with Joe Biden in Cleveland on Tuesday or if he was tested before he went to that fundraiser in New Jersey on Thursday, which of course, we now know he had already learned that his top aide Hope Hicks had tested positive. Kaitlan Collins, CNN at the White House.

HOLMES: Quick break here on the program. When we come back bars and cafes in Paris will soon close for a couple of weeks, coronavirus getting bad there once again. We'll be live for you in the French capital when we come back.

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HOLMES: The U.S. has seen its worst five day period for new cases of COVID-19 since mid-August. According to Johns Hopkins University, more than 232,000 new infections were reported from last Tuesday through Saturday. That's an average of more than 46,000 cases a day. Los Angeles tops the list for the most COVID-19 infections and deaths in the U.S. More than 6,600 people have died from the virus in LA County alone.

Turning our attention to the U.K., and British health officials say they failed to report more than 15,000 coronavirus cases because of a, "technical issue." That brings the country's total to more than 502,000 cases.

And Paris is to get another taste of lockdown measures as coronavirus cases rise. French authorities will put the capital and surrounding region on what they call "maximum alert" this week. That means additional restrictions in public areas to slow the spread of the virus. Melissa Bell joins me now live from Paris to tell us what that entails. Melissa?

MELISSA BELL, CNN PARIS CORRESPONDENT: Michael, it was another grim milestone that was reached over the course of the weekend on Saturday, another record rise in the number of new cases. The figures have just been going up and up. And in cities like Paris, we've watched them get steadily worse.

Now, the French authorities have outlined, Michael, like a specific set of criteria on which needed to be decided whether a city - because now this is decided on a regional level, moved up to an extra alert with further restrictions.

The three criteria for deciding whether the Greater Paris region should be in the maximum alert category were in fact reached several days ago. But it took authorities a little while to announce what was going to happen as a result. So later this morning, in just a few hours' time, we're going to hear about the latest tightening of restrictions for the Greater Paris area.

What we will hear - we've been hearing from the prime minister's office, this has been confirmed to CNN, is that bars and cafes will be closed from Tuesday. And from Tuesday, officially, Paris goes into that maximum alert category joining the city of Marseille that had been inside it for the last two weeks.

Interestingly, though, for the last week or so Marseille has had restaurants entirely closed. We had expected that to be announced for Paris, but there's been such pushback from restaurateurs determined not to go through a second lockdown, not to have to close their restaurants once again.

That we understand that, in fact, restaurants will now be open in both Marseille and Paris. But still a further tightening of restrictions and numbers that just keep going up. For instance, the incidence rate that needs to be met for the city to go to maximum alert, 250 for every 100,000 people that is now 270 here in the Greater Paris region.

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And when you look at that age group between 20 and 29, it is more than 540 per 100,000. And that tells you a lot, Michael, about the fact that it is the young who've really been driving the second wave.

HOLMES: Wow. All right, Melissa, thank you. Melissa Bell there in Paris for us.

And we will take a quick break. When we come back, for our international viewers, it is going to be WORLD SPORT. For those of you in the U.S. Wall Street looks to rally despite uncertainty over President Trump's health. We'll tell you how U.S. Futures are looking so far.

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PATRICK SNELL, CNN ANCHOR: Hi, there. Welcome to CNN WORLD SPORT. This Monday transfer deadline, but we're all still catching our breath from a frantic historic Sunday in the Premier League.

Within a matter of hours of each other, by far the two most successful clubs in the history of the English game, Manchester United and Liverpool had suffered humiliating defeats, conceding a staggering 13 goals between them.

Liverpool now the first reigning topflight champs to leak seven goals in a league match in almost 70 years. Jurgen Klopp's team thrashed by Aston Villa - and I mean thrashed. Liverpool are strongly tipped to retain their crown, of course, but they surely still a good bet to do just that.

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But against Villa they just went to pieces. And Villa helped themselves a goal after goal after goal carving through the Red's defense at will. Ollie Watkins grabbing a first hat-trick for Villa, while Jack Grealish scoring twice in the second half. A deflection may or may have helped here or there, but they all count. Villa winning the game 7-2, Liverpool concede seven for the first time since the early 1960s, an extraordinary day in the English Midlands.

Defending champion's humiliation one of the most sensational score lines in Premier League history. Villa second now. Look at this on goal difference. The Reds in fifth and they certainly won't enjoy seeing their neighbors Everton leading the way.

Earlier, Don Riddell with the expert views of the football Maestro himself Kevin Egan.

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KEVIN EGAN, CNN WORLD SPORT CONTRIBUTOR: Forget Super Sunday. This was spooky Sunday in the month of October. 25 goals scored today in the Premier League. Over half conceded, Don, by Liverpool and Manchester United. There really is no explaining this.

I mean Liverpool, the champions, as you mentioned of the Premier League. In real context here 18 points winners of the Premier League last year over Manchester City, the earliest champion ever, competing against an Aston Villa side that only survived in the Premier League on the very last day of the season. This, a bonkers result, nobody expected it.

But I think when you look at both of those highlights, which you've done, you scratch your head a little bit more so, I think, when it comes to Manchester United, because I think there's deeper problems. Liverpool will try and dismiss this and move on for next week.

DON RIDDELL, CNN ANCHOR: Let's try and break these games down individually. I know that you had an inkling that Aston Villa might do something today, but surely you couldn't have forecast a 7-2 to win against the Champions Liverpool and a team by the way that really doesn't concede goals very often. So what exactly went wrong for Jurgen Klopp and the Reds?

EGAN: First of all, no Alisson in goal. He may be their most important player, all things considered. In comes Adrian, makes a huge mistake for the opening goal of the game, which certainly set the tempo for Aston Villa. And then no Sadio Mane, ruled out after testing positive for the coronavirus. A major blow considering the start to the season that he's had.

But, overall, Don, Liverpool's second - every second ball, every breaking ball, Aston Villa's tenacity in this game was exceptional. And there's summer (ph) business bringing in Ollie Watkins from the championship and there were an awful lot of talk about Watkins and the L28 million fee that they paid Brentford for him. But he's been exceptional. Scored a hat-trick in the first half of this game against the Premier League champions, one he'll never forget.

You could see him leaving with the match ball at the end of this. But Jurgen Klopp will be furious, because they was a little bit of looking about this game. Three deflected goals for Aston Villa, but usually teams don't get in these positions to shoot against this Liverpool defense. Whereas, today they were porous, they look lackluster. And for the first time as a football fan, Don, I have seen a Liverpool team not show up for a game under Jurgen Klopp. That I've never said before.

SNELL: That was extraordinary. Well, Manchester United could well be very busy indeed in the final hours of his transfer window today, especially after their 6-1 home humbling to Tottenham on Sunday, albeit with 10 men. This is the third time they've been hit for six in the Premier League, and second time in nine years at home.

Things going south for the Red Devils when Anthony Martial seeing red for clashing with Erik Lamela. The Frenchman does make contact with the Argentine, but only after the South American's initial brush off. Why Lamela went down, though will be debatable for some.

Spurs vastly superior, though, I have to say despite United taking the lead. And this one Harry Kane will help himself to a couple on this occasion and South Korean star Son Heung-min also getting a couple. The Londoners scoring for fun these days. 13 goals in just the last four days. Serge Aurier making it 5-1 early in the second half like a knife through butter, Pogba slow to get back there.

Jose Mourinho triumphing (ph) at one of his former club, 6-1 Spurs, United in 16th place right now. Massive pressure on the club's Executive Vice Chairman Ed Woodward. Not to mention the club's Norwegian head coach, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.

COMMENTATOR: Solskjaer is the other end of the spectrum.

OLE GUNNAR SOLSKJAER, MANCHESTER UNITED MANAGER: When it's - when we get the start with it, you think - yes, the - we got the game where we want it, and then you make a few bad decisions and you suddenly 2, 3-1 down. And then it's - of course it's alarming. It's nowhere near good enough. Hold my hand up. It's my decision to pick the team I did and we - also the squad that's not good enough for Man United.

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SNELL: Ole Gunnar Solskjaer there. More fascinating storylines everywhere you look, especially on the women's side of the draw at the French Open. We'll break it all down for you as the seeds keep on tumbling and attention switches to one German star. Stay with us. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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SNELL: The Miami Heat has given themselves a huge boost in the NBA Finals which are taking place in the Orlando Bubble during this unprecedented COVID-19 impacted season. Their opponents, the LA Lakers had won the first two games.

But despite being without injured stars, including Goran Dragic, Miami cranking up the heat on LeBron James and company by winning game three here, to cut the deficit. A standout night, I have to tell you, for Heat star, Jimmy Butler. His superb 40 point triple-double was the third ever in finals history. Miami sealing the win, 115 points to 104, they're still very much alive in these finals game four on Tuesday.

Bayern Munich moved to within one point of the Bundesliga summit after winning a seven goal-thriller Sunday against Hertha Berlin. Polish forward, Robert Lewandowski, yes, the Pole with all four of his team's goals. A result that sees the Bavarian giants moved to within one point now of RB Leipzig, who lead the way on goal difference.

Bayern back to winning ways here in the league after suffering a rare loss to Hoffenheim, their first defeat of 2020. Lewandowski completing his hat-trick five minutes from time doing what he does best, and then high drama deep into stoppage time. Cool as you like from the penalty spot, he rolls home the winner for 4-3, Bayern.

At the French Open, the big name casualties keep on falling. Alexander Zverev, this year's U.S. Open finalist, losing on Sunday to the Italian teen Jannik Sinner before, then declaring he didn't feel well during the match. Now a statement from the French Tennis Federation, revealing Zverev's previous coronavirus tests earlier in the week was negative. Afterwards the German giving more insight to reporters into just how he was feeling during that fourth round encounter on Sunday.

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ALEXANDER ZVEREV, WORK #7: No, it was nothing wrong. But I'm completely sick after the match with Cecchinato in the night. Yes, what can I say? I'm completely sick. I can't really breathe, as you can hear by my voice. I had fever, you know, as well. So, yes, I'm not in the best physical state, I would say. And I think that had a little bit of an effect on the match today.

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SNELL: Meantime, Monday Day 9 at Roland Garros, where the top seeds, especially on the women's side of the draw, continue to tumble. While later on today it's all eyes on the top ranked men's player in the world Novak Djokovic who is in fourth round action. Here's Chrissy MacFarlane.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CHRISTINA MACFARLANE, CNN ANCHOR: It has been a wild morning of upsets

in the women's draw, at least. The World #1 Simona Halep and the World #5 Kiki Bertens, both dumped out of the competition within 20 minutes of each other by two unseeded players. Poland's Iga Swiatek and Italy's Martina Trevisan both playing the matches of her lives.

I want to focus on the young teenager, Swiatek, because at 19 years old, she put in a devastating performance against the former champion Halep. She is an extraordinary power player with a massive forehand that have had it scrambling all over the court, in the end Swiatek needing just 68 minutes to win the match 6-1, 6-2. And all of this after Halep had actually knocked her out of the competition at this very stage just last year. So it's an incredible comeback for her.

And with all these toppling seeds, we are now in uncharted territory. There are just four top seats left in the competition and we now know definitively that this year we will have a new women's French Open champion.

So now what of the men? Well leave it to Rafa Nadal to steady the ship. He swatted away any potential upset today against the young Sebastian Korda of the United States, winning in straight sets in just under two hours.

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And as we entered this second week, it really is beginning to feel now like we are on a collision course to the final between Rafa Nadal and Novak Djokovic. And remember, there is history on the line this week, particularly for Nadal when it comes to the all-time Grand Slam stakes.

Take a look at the top three. Nadal is on 19 Grand Slams. He needs just one more win to tie Roger Federer's all-time record of 20. While for Djokovic, well, another win would bring him ever closer, he's currently on 17 Grand Slams.

Now, Nadal and Djokovic have both proven they are in fine form this week. Nadal has only dropped 23 games all tournament, while Djokovic has given up just 15 games. Head to head on the red clay, Nadal has a 6-1 win rate over Djokovic. But the last time these two played each other at Roland Garros was actually in 2015. And it was Djokovic who came out on top.

So we, obviously, still have a long way to go. And this has proven to be anything but a normal tournament. And you never know, maybe it could be another young pretender in the days to come that could upset the order. Someone like Jannik Sinner could deny them. Earlier today, he became the first player to reach the quarterfinals today in his debut since Rafa Nadal did it out in 2005. And that, of course, is who he is due to face in the next round.

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SNELL: Thanks to Chrissy there. And thank you so much for joining us this Monday. Do stay with CNN. Thanks for watching. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)