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Aired November 27, 2020 - 03:00   ET

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PAULA NEWTON, CNN ANCHOR (on camera): Hello, and welcome. I'm Paula Newton, live from CNN's world headquarters in Atlanta.

Ahead this hour. Nothing short of a public health failure. The U.S. may soon run out of hospital beds as coronavirus cases set new records. And healthcare workers say they are now pushed way beyond their limits.

Also.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: It's going to be a very hard thing to concede.

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NEWTON (on camera): Donald Trump takes questions from reporters for the first time in three weeks. We'll take a look at the baseless claims he makes.

And Europe scrambles to try and control the pandemic, hoping to avoid stringent lockdown during Christmas.

So, Thursday's Thanksgiving celebrations in the United States were perhaps the most difficult many Americans have experienced in their lifetimes. The families of well over a quarter million people in the United States who have died of COVID-19 have marked the holiday, of course, without their loved ones.

More than 90,000 Americans could not be with their families because they were fighting for their lives in hospital. That's the highest number since the pandemic began and the 17th straight day of record hospitalizations. And the countless medical staff who care for them also had to sacrifice being at home.

Current trends point to even more suffering as a nation and the world look ahead to a much different Christmas and Hanukkah season.

U.S. President-elect Joe Biden and his wife spent part of the day making those holiday video calls with frontline medical and emergency workers. On Thursday, they posted this message to let Americans know they are not struggling alone.

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JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I know this isn't the way many of us hoped we spend our holiday. We know that a small act of staying home is a gift to our fellow Americans. Yes, it's a personal sacrifice that each of our families can make and should make to save somebody else's life.

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NEWTON: Now the Bidens were among many American families who chose to stay home this Thanksgiving.

We get more from CNN's M.J. Lee in Delaware.

M.J. LEE, CNN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (on camera): This Thanksgiving was a challenging one for so many American families across the country who couldn't travel, who couldn't get together with their relatives and family members and do, sort of their usual tradition that they would typically be doing.

And the same was the case for the president-elect and his family. Joe Biden has said that in past years his family has traveled out of state so that they can have a big extended family gathering around this holiday. But instead, this week, they opted to stay back behind here in Delaware and only get together with a couple of members of their family.

And we heard Biden talk earlier this week in this national address that he understands the sacrifices that a lot of people are making across the country and he also wrote an op-ed for cnn.com, just a little part of which I want to read.

He wrote, like millions of Americans we are temporarily taking letting go of their traditions we can't do safely. It is not a small sacrifice. These moments with our loved ones. Time has last, can't be returned, yet we know it's the price of protecting each other and one we don't pay alone. Isolated in our own dining rooms and kitchens, scattered from coast to coast, we are healing together.

We've heard a pretty and pathetic message coming from the president- elect saying he really understands the experience of looking around the dinner table and seeing that there is an empty chair, obviously, a reference to how so many families across America have lost loved ones because of this pandemic.

And then just a very urgent message from the president-elect as well, urging everybody to please act responsibly around the holiday season, because he knows that we can get back to normal soon, particularly with vaccine distribution potentially being around the corner. So, this has been a pretty consistent message that we have heard from Joe Biden over the last couple of months.

M. J. Lee, CNN, Rehoboth Beach, Delaware. NEWTON: Now President Trump, meantime, observed a Thanksgiving

tradition by calling U.S. troops deployed overseas. But in the news conference to reporters he remains preoccupied with a fictional view that he won the U.S. election and can't yet accept, will not accept the will of leaving for a second term.

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CNN's Kaitlan Collins explains.

KAITLAN COLLINS, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: The president has not taken a question in over three weeks since the day of the election and he broke that streak on Thanksgiving, finally taking questions from reporters after he held a call with members of the military, and as he spoke to us, he repeated his accusations of widespread fraud in the elections.

Something his attorneys have been saying without evidence for weeks now. And the president really hammered it home, repeating it, talking about the secretaries of state in Georgia, criticizing those officials there and in other states.

And also saying that if the Electoral College certifies Joe Biden's win in a matter of weeks, as they are scheduled to do, he says that would be making a mistake. He also criticized that Biden is moving ahead with transitioning to the presidency by picking people who are going to be in his cabinet and he wouldn't say whether or not he's going to attend Biden's inauguration as of course is the president for past presidents, in January.

He talked about whether or not he would concede once his win is certified. He would not say that. Despite being asked multiple times, would he concede once the win has been certified? The president would not say yes that he would.

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TRUMP: It's going to be a very hard thing to concede. Because we know there is massive fraud. So as to whether or not I can get this apparatus moving this quickly because time is on our side. Everything else is on our side. Facts are on our side. This was a massive fraud. This should never take place in this country. And we are like a third world country.

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COLLINS (on camera): One thing he did say is that he would leave the White House. He said, of course I would. Of course, should January come and push comes to shove as there have been these theories about whether or not he actually would leave the White House.

One thing he did say is he's going to be leaving the White House on Saturday, he says, to go campaign in Georgia ahead of that runoff that of course is going to determine which party controls the Senate.

And it's just really notable, I can't stress enough, the president has had such a quiet period in his presidency, where he has not taken questions. And of course, now after three weeks he broke that streak and we'll see if that continues with these baseless allegations about fraud.

Kaitlan Collins, CNN, the White House.

NEWTON: With us now is Julie Norman. She lectures on politics at University College, London. And good to see you. Specially to try and distill what the president said a few hours ago. There is not one shred of truth in what the president said. And that's not because his opponents, and the Democrats are saying that. It's because Republicans are saying it as well.

What's at issue here and? And perhaps more important though, is that the vast majority of those who voted for Donald Trump believe him. How dangerous is that?

JULIE NORMAN, LECTURER IN POLITICS, UNIVERSITY COLLEGE LONDON: Well, Paula, I think that is the issue right now. And it was really encapsulated in what we heard yesterday from the president. So far, his refusal to concede has had two elements really. A procedural in terms of actually trying to overturn election results, through recounts or through lawsuits, and more political, which is just continuing to state that there was widespread voter fraud and really keep sending that message to his supporters and to his base.

I think it's clear now that that the procedural route has pretty much failed. All the lawsuits not going forward. There hasn't been any indication or anything would have changed. But the political has still maintained a lot of momentum. We know that the majority of Trump supporters still very much do believe that there was voter fraud. And many believe that President Trump is in fact the president elect.

So that more political side is something that is working well for Trump. It's helping to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the Biden transition and administration and also giving Trump further momentum going forward for his future political trajectory.

NEWTON: Yes, even though it's not fact. There's no question he has ceded, that doubt. Now he spoke a lot about Georgia. He's going there apparently this weekend. Coming here actually to the state where I am, to back the two Republican candidates in the all-important Senate runoff here. It will really decide the future of the senate for the couple of years.

But he's also calling the secretary of state there a Republican I might add -- an enemy of the state. And he says he claims to say I don't know who this guy is. But let's look at what he tweeted just two years ago. He basically tweeted that, he would make a fantastic secretary of state for Georgia, and in fact that he would make a good accompaniment to the Republican governor there, Brian Kemp.

But at this point in time, what has happened here in Georgia is that you have that same secretary of state in Georgia writing in an editorial two days ago just saying, look, Donald Trump threw me under the bus. He claims that the Georgia elections -- remember this is the Republican secretary of state -- saying that the Republican election here was wildly successful and smooth.

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In terms of what is going on here, the fact that he has actually taken on his own party, but more than that, questioning the legitimacy of the Republicans that were elected around the country, to what end? What do you think is his method there?

NORMAN: Well, Paula, I think we've seen in the past with Trump that he won't hesitate to go after even members of his own party if he perceives that there is a gap in loyalty there. And I think that's what we are seeing in terms of that personal attack.

But you're right in that the larger issue is casting doubt on legitimacy of the election process in the state of Georgia moving forward to this very crucial runoff that's important for both parties. And even some Republicans, even some of Trump's aides have indicated that there may be some backfire to this messaging if voters, especially those who would be those to vote for Republican candidates, our left to worry about the legitimacy of the Georgia voting process.

So, I think there's a kind of a balance there that even the president might be toeing the line a little bit. But again, for Trump right now, a lot of this is just the sense of delaying legitimacy of the election and maybe just trying to build up support, build up momentum. And it is seeming to work. He is still getting a lot of buy into this message. And that's something that both Republicans and Democrats are going to have to grapple with.

NEWTON: Yes, that such a good point. This will affect both party -- both parties in the next weeks and months to come. Julie Norman from University College London, I appreciate it.

NORMAN: Thank you, Paula.

NEWTON: Now there is much more ahead on CNN including a look at unprecedented levels of COVID hospitalizations in the United States. We'll discuss that.

Plus, despite restrictions, Germany is still struggling to turn the tide on coronavirus. The latest from Europe, coming up.

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NEWTON: A staggering milestone worth repeating. On Thursday, the U.S. set a new coronavirus hospitalization record for the 17th consecutive day. And it's a sobering data point. An all-time high number of hospitalized COVID patients vividly illustrating the massive extent of the surge.

Now that number as of Thursday was well over 90,000 people and counting at this very hour. That is according to the COVID tracking project. Now hospitals warn they're running out of beds as cases surge to unprecedented levels. Dr. Peter Drobac is an infectious disease and global health expert at

the University of Oxford. He joins us now from Oxford, England.

Before we move on to what this virus is doing right now in both North America and Europe, I do want to deal with that sliver of hope that we have about the vaccine.

Unfortunately, there has been a lot of confusion around the dozing and data related to Oxford University and AstraZeneca's a vaccine. Is there reason to be concerned here because it was announced also in the last few hours that AstraZeneca would be doing a full third phase trial on the vaccine as well?

PETER DROBAC, GLOBAL HEALTH EXPERT, OXFORD SAID BUSINESS SCHOOL: Yes, it's been a confusing week with regards to that news. And that some of the perils of scientific communication by press release. A lot of questions have come up over the last few days about some aspect of the way the trial was conducted.

The best results, we saw was in the small subgroup that had received a lower unofficial dose. Which it turned out, actually started by accident, and then they kind of bake it into the trial. That was a relatively small group, it didn't have a lot of elderly patients.

So, a lot of these questions are just really making us wonder about those top line headlines that we saw. The good news is, that I'm hearing some reports that they do plan to publish the full results in the Lancet Medical Journal, perhaps, as early as this weekend so we can really get a better look at the data and have a greater understanding of things.

And I think it's a good measure this announcement to do another phase three trial using this newer lower dosing regimen that appeared to have a larger effect. It doesn't mean that that will take longer but it can give us real confidence that that's the result we could believe in.

NEWTON: Yes. And when you make that point, confidence, do you worry that even in hearing things like this, that it will dent people's confidence in order to actually take the vaccine?

DROBAC: We are going to have to overcome, I think, suspicion and fear, and lack of trust in a lot of communities in helping to persuade people to take the vaccine. That's why the rigor in transparency with all of these trials in this entire process is so important.

And so yes, these questions are coming out, but they are coming out because we have good trial infrastructure in place. We know that none of these vaccines are going to pass or get approval without --

NEWTON: Right.

DROBAC: -- independent regulators really scrutinizing these things and making those decisions based on the science and not the politics. So, yes, we can continue to expect to see some road bumps along the way, but I would say those are signs that the system is working, and hopefully increase our confidence.

NEWTON: All right. We have to leave it there. Dr. Peter Drobac of the University of Oxford, I want to thank you for taking us through that step-by-step, I think it cleared a lot of things up. I appreciate it.

DROBAC: Thank you.

NEWTON: Now Europe's most populous country struggling to turn back the tide of coronavirus. Germany has now topping one million confirmed cases of COVID-19. It also reported its largest single day death toll ever on Thursday.

Meantime, a new report from the U.N. agency says the pandemic has set back the cause of gender equality by years. The report says women are disproportionately bearing the brunt of extra work at home.

OK. There is a glimmer of hope here, though. In France, the health ministry says a national target of just 5,000 new cases per day could now be reached by mid-December. The nation reported more than 16,000 new cases on Wednesday.

With us now is Melissa Bell, she is live in Paris, and Salma Abdelaziz is in London. And Salma, we will start with you. There is a reprieve of sorts for London. It will now be avoiding the worst of the lockdown.

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Given everything the U.K. has gone through, is this really to spare the economy or does it follow the science?

SALMA ABDELAZIZ, CNN PRODUCER: Well, Paula, it, sort of, depends on what scientists you ask. If you ask the medical community, if you ask scientific advisers, well, the British Medical Association has said this three-tier strategy is full of risks and it threatens to reverse the gains of the monthlong lockdown.

But here is the government's argument. It's not just about the medicine, it's about behavioral psychology. So, there is this idea that the government needs public trust and confidence to get through the next month. So, they need to find compromises, to find rules that people can and will follow rather than rules that are too strict and could be broken.

But really, the prime minister's biggest challenge in implementing this new regional system comes from his own party. Conservative M.P.s are already rebelling against this three-tier regional strategy. It's extremely controversial. Some is saying it's authoritarian, others are demanding to see a cost-benefit analysis.

Now there's supposed to be a vote in parliament next week, so the prime minister is going to have explain, is it science, is it economy, what exactly is the reasoning behind this for him to go forward, Paula.

NEWTON: And I want to point out, the citizens of the U.K. are kind of stuck in the middle here. Wondering who to believe and what is right.

Melissa Bell now to you in Paris, a bit of a similar situation. The news has been good in France and they want to try and spare the country so that they can get together at Christmas. Do they seem on track at this point to be able to get that done?

MELISSA BELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We heard from the French prime minister yesterday, Paula, and he said that France was on track. I mean, this partial lockdown that we've been under here in France since October 30th, has proved remarkably effective.

When you consider, as you mentioned a moment ago, that we should be on track according to authorities to reach that no more than 5,000 new cases a day target in order for this partial lockdown to be lifted on December 15th.

I mean, the amount of distance traveled just over the course of the last month when Emmanuel Macron announced this second partial lockdown. We were looking at daily rises, Paula, more than 30,000, 40,000, some days 50,000 new cases.

So that's how effective the partial lockdown has been. But of course, it is about, first of all, managing expectations, making sure that people can get together, as well as possible around the Christmas period but avoiding, as Emmanuel Macron said on Wednesday when he announced the plans for the next few weeks, a third wave.

The mistakes of the first wave which were that the end of the lockdown came too quickly, too suddenly, with too many restrictions lifted all at once and too much freedom given to people, was that the second wave hit Europe and countries like France in particular harder and faster even in the first wave had.

So that partial lockdown was effective. If we get to the target of no more than 5,000 a day, by the 15th of December the partial lockdown will be lifted. So, the restrictions on people's movements will be lifted. But there will still be a bunch of restrictions in place.

For instance, key resorts will be close this winter period over the Christmas holiday in order to avoid too much mixing around ski slopes. But also, a whole bunch of businesses, those that will not be opening this Saturday, so clothes shops, hairdressers, and I'm thinking here of restaurants, and bars. Anyone in the hospitality sector. All of those businesses, Paula, will remain closed until January. And that of course comes at a huge economic cost.

NEWTON: Yes, absolutely. And that's been the problem to try and find the balance in all of these European countries as to what to close and what to open.

Melissa Bell in Paris, thanks so much. And Salma Abdelaziz in London for us, thanks to both of you.

Now, it is a fact that Donald Trump lost the election to Joe Biden but the U.S. president appears stuck and a fictional universe where apparently facts don't matter. We'll have more on his latest truth pending claims just ahead after a break.

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NEWTON (on camera): And welcome back to our viewers in the United States and all around the world. I'm Paula Newton. And you are watching CNN Newsroom.

Now we told you earlier about Donald Trump's impromptu news conference at the White House. He made outlandish claims about election fraud already rejected by multiple courts around the country because they were not supported by any evidence.

His answers to reporter's questions or so far removed from reality. We thought it would be important for you to hear more.

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UNKNOWN: Mr. President, do you have any big plans for your last Thanksgiving in the White House?

TRUMP: Well, we don't know what is last, if you look at what's going on. You have to really take a look at what's going on. They are finding tremendous discrepancies in the votes. And nobody believes those numbers. Those numbers are incorrect numbers.

A lot of numbers have already been reported that's incorrect. You are going to see things happening over the next week or two that are going to be shocking to people. If you look at the numbers in Michigan, if you look at the numbers in Pennsylvania, if you look at fraudulent voting and fraudulent votes.

So, I can't say what's first and what's last in terms of is this the last one or is this the first one of a second term. We'll see what happens. Nobody wants to see the kind of fraud that this election has really come to represent.

We are looking at things that are so bad in Georgia. They do not want to show us signatures. The reason they don't want to shows us signatures is very simple. Because we will find thousands and thousands. It's a very close race. It's hair thin. But we'll find thousands and thousands of discrepancies, fraud.

Why they aren't wanting to show those signatures is amazing. They are doing recounts, and even in the recount they found thousands of votes that were off. But now we want to look at the signatures and you will find tens of thousands of false ballots. Forged ballots. You'll see it all over. You are going to see a lot of it.

And you go to Pennsylvania you saw the meeting we had yesterday with Pennsylvania. You saw people come up how they went to vote and they said no. You can't vote. Somebody else already sent in a ballot, and a woman. But this is happening tens of thousands of times.

I think it was 600 some thousands, 687,000 fraudulent votes cast in Pennsylvania. And I will tell you, the -- if you look at the states House, the Republican state House is starting to see what's going on there. But they've really known it for a long time.

Then you go to Michigan and you look at what happened in Wayne County and Detroit. I went through a list. I won almost every county. And you see it almost every -- like 78 percent, 72 percent, 68 percent, going through the list. Then you get to Wayne and something happened. Tremendous numbers.

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You saw the canvassers. They refused to sign their document because they said we can't sign a fraudulent document. Horrible things went on. That's in Wayne County, Detroit. But you look at the votes that were just tabulated, and they left today. Look at all the counties, I won almost all of them except Detroit was so egregious. It was phony.

Look at what is going on in Wisconsin. Wisconsin, they are finding tremendous discrepancies. You just take a look at that, tremendous discrepancy. And elsewhere. So we are going to see what happens, but you can't have somebody assume office, and already they want to get rid of America first.

I mean, they want to get rid of America first. They don't want America first. You know why, because China doesn't want it. China expressed their wish. Please get rid of America first. And the Biden administration said, that is OK, will get rid of America first.

Now, we don't want to get rid of America first, we want to put America first. And other countries should put themselves first, and I tell them that all the time. But we don't want to get rid of it. So, I don't know what is going to happen.

I know one thing, Joe Biden did not get 80 million votes. And I got 74 million, but there were many ballots thrown away. So I got much more than that, but I got 74 million. 74 million is 11 million more than I got last time. It is millions more than Ronald Reagan got when he won all -- he won 49 states, I guess, he won 49 states. Yes.

And it is millions more, millions more than Hillary Clinton got, Joe Biden did not get, and by the way, Joe Biden did not beat Barack Obama -- with the black vote. He didn't beat him. OK? But they have him is beating him. And if you look at the numbers, the numbers are false. The numbers are corrupt. It was a rigged election. 100 percent. And people know it. That is why you have people marching all over the United States right now, they know is a rigged election.

And look at what is happening in Georgia. A lot of things are being found in Georgia. And they are, absolutely, against showing. I mean, it's a sad thing. They don't want to show signatures. It can be solved if you show signatures. But you are going to find out the people who signed, aren't the people who are supposed to be signing. You are going to find that the people that signed those envelopes, they didn't do the ballots. Envelopes.

And then someone said, maybe the envelopes were thrown out. There's tremendous fraud here. If you look at right, just one second, if you look at 10 o'clock in the evening, you saw what happened, and then you have these massive dumps. Nobody has ever seen anything like it.

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PAULA NEWTON, CNN ANCHOR (on camera): Not true. Wrong. He is being deceitful. And he has a mission. He is basically countering what even Republicans have said in their states, saying that this election was incredibly smooth, especially that it took place during a pandemic.

Once again, the president, what he said about election fraud, or the fact he believes that he was cheated out of the presidency, is categorically not true. Joe Biden won the election, he will be the next president of the United States. He will be inaugurated on January 20th, 2021.

Now, Canada's four eastern provinces, work together on ways to fight off the pandemic. Just ahead, quite a successful Atlantic Bubble, as it is known, is under a bit of stress.

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NEWTON (on camera): So, Canada as well has been battling a disturbing increase in coronavirus cases, but one area of the country has handled the pandemic quite well. It is the four easternmost provinces. And they coordinated their response to the crisis by forming what is called the Atlantic Bubble. But it now too is under stress. Take a listen.

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UNKNOWN (voice over): For six months, Canada's Atlantic Bubble has been a sanctuary. Nearly 2.5 million people living mostly, COVID free.

UNKNOWN: It doesn't matter, you know more than that to.

UNKNOWN: Just listen to Erica Baker, a child psychologist, and mother of three, getting her kids ready to go to school.

ERICA BAKER, MOTHER OF THREE, CHILD PSYCHOLOGIST: Right now, things have been very normal for them. It has been wonderful.

UNKNOWN: Normal? Wonderful even. The bubble has made it possible. And its outer edge, the Atlantic Bubble is just a six hour drive from Boston, but a world away from the current COVID reality.

It includes four provinces, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland Labrador. Going into the bubble, from anywhere, even the rest of Canada, you have to quarantine for 14 days. And then, mask mandates, distancing, aggressive testing and contact tracing, have kept cases near zero, or close to it for months.

BAKER: We have had exceptional leadership. They had provided us with the right information so far, and I don't think that there is any reason to not trust that they are going to do the right things moving forward as well.

UNKNOWN: That leadership is about to be tested. As cases rise into the dozens, even here, they are acting fast.

ROBERT STRANG, CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER OF HEALTH, NOVA SCOTIA: Yes, because if you look elsewhere, a small number of cases, left unchecked, explodes into a very large number of cases. Your health care system starts to get overwhelmed. You have lots of unavoidable severe illness and death. And we see that, in other places. And we are doing everything we can to avoid that.

UNKNOWN: Doctor Robert Strang is Nova Scotia's chief medical officer, and, so-called caretaker of the bubble. He is putting in place more restrictions to indoor dining, and shopping.

And now, quarantine free travel to other provinces inside of the bubble, will have to end for a little while. For this retired senior, amateur musician, and one of the vulnerable, the bubble hasn't burst, it is just adapting to what he calls, the tsunami of cases all around.

GORDON FLOWERDEW, RETIRED SENIOR, AMATEUR MUSICIAN: I actually feel that the Atlantic Bubble has been moderately successful at postponing the inevitable.

UNKNOWN: Health experts say, that has saved lives.

There is another side though to the success of the Atlantic Bubble. Especially because of the quarantine. Some argue the sacrifice has been too great, the hit to the economy too severe.

We caught up with Jennifer Hutton at Montreal's airport, going back into the bubble, staring down her 11th quarantine. As an I.T. Specialist, she has travels for work, and is thankful for the bubble. But --

JENNIFER HUTTON, HALIFAX NOVA SCOTIA RESIDENT, I.T. SPECIALIST: It affected my well-being, my sleeping, my marriage, because when you are isolating over and over again, and you can't go out into public, in your own home. Like, you know, you feel trapped. And being trapped is not a nice feeling.

UNKNOWN: For now though, those in the bubble are acting fast to adapt to more restrictions. Hoping it will strengthen people's resolve to fight on, even when cases rise.

SARAH GOSSE, OWNER, LUMINATE CO. WELLNESS MARKET: I think that people are just -- like let's get this done, let's get this over, let's have you know Thanksgiving, and Christmas, and let's, you know, solve this problem and have a safe space in our little bubble.

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UNKNOWN: That little bubble, no matter how vulnerable now, has given families, like the Bakers, a shot of normal life, and peace of mind. Even during the worst waves of this pandemic.

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NEWTON (on camera): You know, and that point is key here. This is an incredibly difficult second wave, and worst in Canada than the first. And yet there, in that Atlantic Bubble, there is that tranquility to know that kids can go to school and that the economy is lumbering along.

The issue here is to keep those cases low. And what they have learned and even the rest of Canada hasn't been able to put into action, is to be aggressive about that testing, that isolation, that contact tracing.

And even though some headlines say that the bubble has burst, in fact, it has not. In fact, people there will still be able to stay within their bubble and live somewhat normal life.

I want to thank you though for watching CNN Newsroom, I'm Paula Newton, World Sport is next for our international viewers. For everyone else, the Newsroom continues, right here on CNN. That's after a quick break.

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