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NYT Lists 15 Mass Shootings In Which Authorities Said Gunman Obtained Weapon Legally; Biden: U.S. Will Not Send Rockets That Could Strike Russia; Russian Foreign Minister Denies Putin Is Ill; Travelers Face Cancelled Flights, Record-High Gas Prices; "Julia" Premieres Tonight At 8:00 PM ET. Aired 1:30-2p ET

Aired May 30, 2022 - 13:30   ET

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PHIL MUDD, CNN COUNTERTERRORISM ANALYST: If you want another answer, bring in the Australians, who severely limited access to the kinds of weapons.

And ask them what their murder rate was and what their suicide rate was by the weapons after, and you're going to get a fact, which we will not see, I predict in this debate.

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN HOST: Yes. It's hard to stomach. It's hard to stomach that, the likelihood is at least given the fact pattern that we witnessed before, that nothing will change even after the tragedy in Uvalde.

We hope, at least I hope I'm wrong about that.

Phil Mudd, Chris Grollnek, gentlemen, thank you so much. I hope you get sine barbeque today.

CHRIS GROLLNEK, ACTIVE SHOOTER PREVENTION EXPERT: Thank you.

SANCHEZ: Of course.

MUDD: Thank you.

SANCHEZ: On the same day that President Biden says he's not sending heavy artillery to Ukraine, a top Ukrainian official says it's unlikely they can win the war without them.

We'll take you live to Kyiv for a live report after a quick break. Stay with us.

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SANCHEZ: Right now, leaders of European Union countries are working on an agreement to ban Russian oil as part of a sixth round of sanctions.

It comes as yet another Ukrainian city appears ready to fall under Russian control. Ukrainian military officials say the shelling along the frontlines, quote, "does not stop."

Notably, today, President Biden tapped down Ukraine's expectations of the kind of heavy weapons the United States would be sending them. Listen to this.

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JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We're not going to send to Ukraine rockets that can strike into Russia.

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SANCHEZ: Let's take you out to Kyiv now and CNN international security editor, Nick Paton Walsh.

Nic, how is the Ukrainian government responding to these comments from the president, given they said they need the weapons to win the war?

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL SECURITY EDITOR: Yes, only recently made. But essentially, what you hear President Joe Biden saying there, is all about the precise wording being used.

To recap, Ukraine wants high-mile (ph) systems, a very long range, hundreds-of-mile-range system, which could potentially equate with the kind of ferocious fire power that Russian Grand Rockets (ph).

Which are used frequently along the frontlines, have been throwing against Ukrainian civilians and cities over the past months. The high- mile (ph) system, more technologically advanced.

What Joe Biden is not saying, though, he won't supply it, just that he won't supply a system that could potentially hit into Russia.

You should choose to pass in the wording that perhaps the weapons are given with the condition that they are put so far into the west of Ukraine that they couldn't be used against Russia or under strict terms of use.

But still, they're certainly by the White House to be sure nothing allows Russia a chance to see escalation by the United States.

I think many U.S. officials are wary of giving Vladimir Putin a chance of dragging the United States into this narrative he's created suggesting he's defending Russia's interest in this unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

Certainly, Ukraine officials will be disappointed to hear President Biden saying they're not going to get everything they want. But remember, they're getting a lot in the $40 billion aid package -- Boris?

SANCHEZ: Speaking of Russian President Vladimir Putin, the Kremlin spoke out today about his health. There's a lot of speculation out there that he's not doing well.

PATON WALSH: Yes. I should be clear, there is, at this point, no evidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin is ill.

There have been suggestions that, because of occasionally he may look tired or maybe a puffiness that wasn't seen in his face in the past, that that may be associated with some form of illness.

But there's been no actual evidence to that at all. There's been a lot of speculation with anonymous sources across Western media over the past months suggesting he might have some kind of illness.

But still, Russian foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, -- and I paraphrase here -- essentially saying, look, he's appearing regularly on television.

He's a man who is clearly in full control of his functions and not somebody who is sick or suffering from a severe illness.

We simply don't know. So much that happens in the Kremlin, we will never know about.

But it does appear on this that the Russian government felt it had to say something publicly about this topic. We just don't know why. Is it speculation becoming rampant or because there's genuinely a problem -- Boris?

SANCHEZ: There's a lot of videos online, swirling, purporting to show Vladimir Putin shaking and apparently other signs of unhealthiness. The Kremlin obviously denying that.

Nick Paton Walsh, from Kyiv, thank you very much.

Americans might be sick of dealing with high gas prices, or literally sick from COVID, as five times more people are infected this year over last.

But millions are still hitting the road or skies this holiday weekend. We've got your travel update moments away.

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JULIA CHILD, FORMER CELEBRITY CHEF: Hello. I'm Julia Child.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Julia was more than a cook. She was a cultural force.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Julia was a pop icon.

CHILD: Julia Child presents the chicken sisters.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Today, you have rock star chefs. Julia was the first.

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JOHNNY CARSON, FORMER HOST, "THE TONIGHT SHOW" I think I love you.

(LAUGHTER) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She absolutely expanded the possibilities of what women could do.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Julia paved the way for this incredible moment of food and pop culture. Making this domestic profession something extremely popular.

CHILD: We were right for a change. There I was.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Whether you cooked or didn't cook, people just watched her for fun.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You were mesmerized, spellbound by what she was saying.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She just seemed too unpretentious that you thought, if she could do it, you could do it.

ANNOUNCER: The delicious life of America's first celebrity chef.

CHILD: Bon appetite.

ANNOUNCER: "JULIA," a CNN film, premieres tonight at 8:00 on CNN.

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SANCHEZ: Gas prices have hit another record high today, just in time for people to head home from their three-day weekend. Those that aren't driving may be now facing cancelled flights.

Our Pete Muntean is live from his second home at Reagan National Airport.

Pete, is there an easy or cheap way to get anywhere right now?

PETE MUNTEAN, CNN AVIATION CORRESPONDENT: Boris, you know, it is hard to find anything cheap, any good deal in 2022, it seems.

We're hearing from travelers who are flying instead of driving their normal Memorial Day weekend road trip because that is cheaper when you think about gas prices.

This is all coming during a huge test for travelers, a huge test for airlines. The first big travel rush where the transportation mass mandate is gone.

Also during a time when airlines are facing these huge worker shortages and they're having to cancel and shutter flights by the hundreds.

In fact, the latest data from Flight Aware says airlines here in the U.S. have cancelled 360 flights today alone. About 2,200 flights in total since Friday when so many people are rushing back to the airlines. The TSA screened about 2.1 million people at airports across the

country yesterday. They forecast screening 2.21 million people today. These numbers are about 90 percent of where we were back in 2019 before the pandemic.

What's so interesting is the TSA says, as the summer continues, we could see these numbers actually exceed pre-pandemic levels.

I want you to listen to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg when I asked him whether or not airlines are up to this challenge.

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PETE BUTTIGIEG, TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY: Well, we saw a lot of airlines during the pandemic thinning out their schedules and thinning out their workforce not knowing when demand was going to return.

Now, faster than expected, the demand has come roaring back, and they are struggling to keep up. That's true whether we're talking about flight attendant crews, whether we're talking about pilots.

And so we've got to make sure that we have short-term and long-term approaches.

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MUNTEAN: One of the short-term approaches being taken at Delta Airlines, they're cancelling flights ahead of time. In the month of July, shedding about 100 flights per day from the schedule there.

Remember, Memorial Day weekend is really mostly a driving holiday. AAA anticipates about 34.9 million people driving 50 miles or more over the five-day Memorial Day weekend travel period.

And it's coming during a time when the gas prices are high. The gas price national average for a gallon of regular, $4.62.

When you think about that, even adjusted for inflation, the last time we saw a gas price this high was Memorial Day weekend, 2012. A ten- year high -- Boris?

SANCHEZ: Yikes.

Pete Muntean, thank you so much for the update.

The husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is out on bail today following a DUI arrest over the weekend.

Paul Pelosi was taken into custody late Saturday night local time after he was involved in a car crash. He was charged with driving under the influence and driving with a blood alcohol content of .08 or higher.

We should note, TMZ was first to report his arrest. According to the booking report, bail was set at $5,000 and Pelosi was released on Sunday morning. It's been a heart of one New York church since the 1890s and now it's

gone. Thieves stealing this 18-karat gold tabernacle worth $2 million from a Catholic Church in Brooklyn.

Invesigators say the thieves managed to take off with the piece after using power tools to cut through the altar, even decapitating surrounding angel statues in the process. You see them there.

The tabernacle has been a centerpiece of the church since it was first built. And its historic charm is why members of the St. Augustine community consider it irreplaceable.

The New York Police Department is asking anyone with information about the robbery to give them a call.

Now to a shocking case of vandalism. The world's most famous painting, the Mona Lisa in the Louvre.

Just yesterday, in Paris, a man approaching a painting in the wheelchair, wearing a wig, apparently disguised as an older woman, then chucking a cake at the painting. Luckily, it is surrounded by protective glass. And the museum says it wasn't damaged in any way.

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A 36-year-old man was arrested and taken to a psychiatric infirmary in police headquarters, which is probably where he belongs.

Stay with CNN. We'll be right back.

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SANCHEZ: There's a new CNN film premiering tonight. "JULIA" tells the story of the legendary cook and TV super star, Julia Cook (sic).

Our Ana Cabrera has a preview.

ANA CABRERA, CNN HOST (voice-over); There would be no Emeril.

(SHOUTING)

CABRERA: No Barefoot Contessa

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Looks pretty good.

CABRERA: No iron chef.

ANNOUNCER: Iron chef, Bobby Flay.

CABRERA: Or Rachael Ray.

RACHAEL RAY, CELEBRITY CHEF: Yummo.

CHILD: Welcome to "The French Chef."

CABRERA: If not for Julia Child. CHILD: Today, we're cooking a goose.

CABRERA: The original television celebrity chef --

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CABRERA: -- who brought elevated French cooking to the American masses.

Julia was first introduced to cooking in France where she lived with her husband, Paul, after World War II.

CHILD: As soon as I got into France and realized what it was all about, it came upon me that that was what I'd been looking for all my life.

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I decided that I would really like to do serious delving into cuisine, so I enrolled in the Cordon Bleu.

CABRERA: After the Cordon Bleu, Julia partnered with friends and fellow chefs to write "The Culinary Tour de Force, Mastering the Art of French Cooking."

CHILD: You're about to see a French omelet.

CABRERA: To promote the cookbook, Julia appeared on the Boston public TV station, WGBH.

CHILD: The only way you learn how to flip things is just to flip them.

CABRERA: Where she demonstrated how to apply French cooking techniques at home in an American kitchen.

The appearance was such a success, the producers at WGBH offered Julia, already in her 50s, her own show.

"The French Chef," one of the first cooking shows to ever appear on American television, premiered on WGHB in 1963.

CHILD: This is really the stew of stews.

CABRERA: Julia Child became a TV powerhouse, enchanting American audiences with her distinctive voice and approachable demeanor.

CHILD: Julia Child presents the chicken sisters.

CABRERA: Becoming a beloved cultural icon.

DAVID LETTERMAN, FORMER HOST, "LATE NIGHT WITH DAVID LETTERMAN": Please welcome Julia Child -- Julia?

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CABRERA: It's hard to overstate the impact Julia Child had on American cooking.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her coming on television and telling America that they could make great food out of the supermarket virtually changed the landscape of food in America.

CABRERA: And it created a whole universe of charismatic chefs taking to TV and social media to teach people at home that everyone can cook.

CHILD: This is Julia Child, bon appetit.

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CABRERA: Ana Cabrera, CNN.

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SANCHEZ: Thanks to Ana for that preview.

The all-new CNN film "JULIA" premieres tonight at 8:00 p.m. Eastern.

That does it for me. Hey, thank you so much for joining us. Ana comes back tomorrow.

And the news continues after a quick break. Happy Memorial Day.

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