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MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN HOST: Hello and welcome to our viewers here in the United States and all around the world. I am Michael Holmes. Appreciate your company. Coming up here on "CNN Newsroom." The aftermath of the Supreme Court's abortion decision still sweeping the nation. CNN following protests across the country. The peaceful and the sometimes a disorderly.

Plus, missile strikes rained down on Ukraine's capital, only strengthening the country's push for more military aid from allies. All of this as G7 world leaders show a united front against Russia's war. We're live in Germany and Austria for the updates.

And we begin in Germany where day two of the G7 summit gets underway soon. It is a meeting that has so far, of course, not surprisingly, been dominated by Russia's war on Ukraine. All of this as Russian missiles hammered Kyiv on Sunday. Ukrainian officials say at least one person was killed, six more wounded after a strike hit an apartment building in the capital.

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy who is slated to address the G7 in the coming hours says the attacks are part of what he called the Russian method.

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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE (through translation): What are these missiles about today and what are yesterday's 62 missiles, for only one Saturday, for 24 hours are about? They are about the Russian method, to escalate every time international events take place. And at the same time, they are about determination.

About for example, the fact that the leaders of the G7, who gathered in Germany today for a summit have enough common potential to stop Russian aggression against Ukraine and against Europe as a whole. It is possible.

(END VIDEO CLIP) HOLMES: Ukraine might soon get some of the military aid it's been

requesting. A source telling CNN the U.S. is poised to announce as soon as this week that it has purchased an advanced missile defense system for Ukraine, which will provide medium to long range surface to air defenses.

Our Fred Pleitgen is standing by in Germany with a closer look at reactions to the summit. But first, let's go to CNN's Kevin Liptak in Austria near the site of this year's meeting. Good to see you, Kevin. Do we expect any significant announcements to come out of the talks?

KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Well, heading into this G7, U.S. officials did say that they wanted to make new announcements on security assistance and sanctions. And we do understand this missile defense system that the U.S. has purchased could be announced in the coming days.

The U.S. is also prepared to announce new shipments of artillery ammunition and radar systems to Ukraine. So, all trying to shift the momentum on the battlefield in that country as Russia continues to make small gains in the east.

But the other question that U.S. officials have weighed in all of this is the question of escalation. How Vladimir Putin might take these announcements of these new systems that Ukraine has been asking for. That is something that President Biden sort of considers every time he makes one of these announcements, is how that could have the potential to escalate the situation further.

Now, the other topics under discussion here are sanctions and that ban on gold imports from Russia that the leaders agreed to yesterday, that is set to be announced tomorrow. The other thing that the leaders have been discussing is this idea of price caps on Russian energy imports because as the price of oil has skyrocketed, Russia's energy revenues are actually up despite all of these bans on those imports around the country.

So, the leaders are looking to do something about that during this summit as well. Of course, they're all trying to put forward this image of unity. And you saw them yesterday, sort of arm in arm at that family photo, taking their ties off, really getting down to business, literally rolling up their shirtsleeves.

President Biden talked about the importance of unity, as he was meeting with the German chancellor yesterday. Listen to what he had to say.

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BIDEN: We have to stay together because Putin has been counting on from the beginning. And somehow NATO and the G7 would splinter.

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And, but, we haven't and we're not going to. So, we can't let this aggression take the form it has and get away with it. (END VIDEO CLIP)

LIPTAK: For staying united amid this war as questions loom about what it might look like in the coming months, will be these leaders' tasks in the weeks ahead, Michael?

HOLMES: Alright, thanks for the wrap there, Kevin, appreciate that. Let's bring in CNN's Fred Pleitgen standing by live in Germany. Good to see you, my friend. There are always protests at these gatherings. What's been happening on that front this year?

FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, to be honest Michael, the protests that we've been seeing around this G7 summit, both before it even started and then yesterday also as it was underway, they were a lot smaller than a lot of the protests that we've seen in the past and it's really an interesting phenomenon that we see going on.

It almost seems as though the sort of anti-G7 movement, which in many ways here in Europe is also an anti-NATO, and in some cases also an anti-American movement as well. That seems to be in somewhat of an identity crisis.

I actually spoke to one of the organizers of one of the protests that took place and he said he believes one of the reasons why so few people have turned out is that some simply don't believe that with the Ukraine war going on, that it's appropriate to protest into -- against a G7 summit and against the leaders who are obviously trying to come to terms with that.

I actually went along. We walked along with one of the protests yesterday, the main one here in the town of Garmisch, which is the town closest to the actual summit that you can still get to. And there was not a single Ukrainian flag or a single banner for solidarity with Ukraine among the people there.

They seem to have other issues. They were once again against G7, against NATO, but very little in the way of solidarity with Ukraine. That certainly does seem to have put some people off who maybe normally would have attended.

There was one really interesting thing that happened along the way, Michael. There was actually sort of a counter-demonstration by pro- Ukrainians who were calling for heavy weapons for Ukraine, for solidarity with Ukraine. And the anti-G7, well then actually just sort of blasted its sound system even more to try and drown them out.

So, that's the sort of thing that we're seeing here, where it really appears to us is that there's a lot fewer protests at this particular G7 summit simply because the war in Ukraine seems to be something that that movement has a lot of trouble dealing with, Michael.

HOLMES: Fascinating about the Ukrainian aspect of it. And speaking of Ukraine, President Zelenskyy, he's going to be addressing the G7. What are we expecting to hear from him? PLEITGEN: I think it's going to be a really important address for

Volodymyr Zelenskyy. And I think there's two things that are to be expected. Of course, there is the one thing that Volodymyr Zelenskyy always tells international leaders, the leaders of western nations when he addresses them, which is that the Ukrainians need more support and need more weapons as well. That's something that goes without saying.

But I think he's also going to show his appreciation for the deliveries that have been made. And if you look at especially some of the European countries, I think for them, Michael, this G7 summit is extremely important specifically for Olaf Scholz, for the German leader. He's been taking some flack in Germany for some people believing that he was providing heavy weapons to Ukraine too slowly and not in significant enough amounts.

You know that soundbite that Kevin was just playing there, of the U.S. president praising Olaf Scholz and showing his solidarity with Olaf Scholz. I think that's something that was extremely important to the German chancellor.

I know, from speaking with German government officials that some of the German weapon's deliveries that are in the works, for instance, multiple rockets launching systems that the Germans are set to give to the Ukrainians and train them on, that's something that's actually happening in cooperation with the United States.

So, you have the hawks here in Europe on the one hand, but you do also have a significant faction within Olaf Scholz's own political party that believes that Germany should essentially do less and try to also work with Russia a little bit. Maybe not work with Russia, but certainly try to listen to Russia and speak with Vladimir Putin.

And a lot of them are simply afraid for the German economy. You know that Germany is very, very dependent on Russian oil, on Russian gas, on Russian coal and there are real fears here in this country that if all of that is shut off that Germany could lose its role as a major industrial power and lose a lot of its wealth as well. That's one of those things with the proximity to Russia and the dependence on Russian energy, certainly a huge factor here as well, Michael.

HOLMES: Yes. Fascinating. Fred Pleitgen in Germany, Kevin Liptak in Austria, appreciate it. Thanks to you both.

Joining me now from Washington, D.C. is CNN political and national security analyst, David Sanger. David, always good to have you on. Great article about the G7. How big of an issue for the G7 and NATO is unity when it comes to Russia's war in Ukraine and how the world responds to it? Are western allies still united?

DAVID SANGER, CNN POLITICAL AND NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: I think they are for now, but it's clear there is some fatigue setting in.

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You know, you heard Henry Kissinger and President Macron of France all say within the past month or so that we ought to think about what kind of compromise can be reached with the Russians that might ultimately give them some land out there. In case of Macron, he said that we had to be careful not to humiliate Putin, which was interpreted as saying, give him something for what he has done.

So, you are seeing some smaller cracks, but I think the bigger issue out here, Michael, is that we are just in a very different phase of the war than we were when the president was last in Europe at the end of March.

HOLMES: Yes.

SANGER: At that time, the shock was still on and people were loading on new sanctions. Now they have to think about sustaining a long war.

HOLMES: And to that point, I mean, despite the sanctions and all the unity so far and all the weapons that have been sent, Russia has the momentum right now. Putin has shown zero sign of backing down. So, how then might strategies to deal with going forward be addressed both at the G7, but also of course, the NATO meeting starting Wednesday?

SANGER: Well, it's going to be a challenge because while the sanctions have been successful in reducing the amount of oil that he can export, obviously natural gas is continuing to flow. And because oil prices have risen so, Russia isn't suffering from quite as much of a revenue decline as you may think.

There are some signs though of the sanctions having some bite. The export controls of semiconductors, and other electronic proponents are seriously beginning to hurt the Russian military. And we've seen some reports that Russia is right on the verge of defaulting for the first time on its sovereign debt. That has not happened since 1918.

HOLMES: Certainly, a big deal, you're right. I mean, Putin said, and I know you've been interested in this aspect. He said on Saturday that he would move nuclear capable missiles into Belarus. Now, if there are ever nuclear arm, that's a pretty big step in terms of spreading Russia's arsenal back into former Soviet states. What do you think of the implications were that to happen?

SANGER: You know, I think this is the most important and least discussed development of the weekend in the Ukraine war. You know, ever since the fall of the Soviet Union, we have seen a shrinkage of the nuclear footprint.

Ukraine obviously gave up the nuclear missiles that were based there. Belarus gave up on this, certain other Soviet states. So, if we are beginning to see that some of these states are once again becoming a base for Russian missiles, that tells you that we are going to have to reconfigure the nuclear defenses for the west and we could be back in an arms race cycle.

HOLMES: Yes. And that, yes, that is frightening. I want to get your thoughts on this too. How much do you think -- how much damage has the events, in reference to the G7 and the NATO meeting, how much damage has the events of January 6th, and what's come out of the hearings impacted U.S. standings at gatherings like these? I mean, has it become harder for the U.S. to say, be a strong democracy like us? Be like us when that democracy is, you know, really being so shaky to be honest.

SANGER: You know, I think this has been a problem since January 6. I mean, people think about January 6 here in the United States as its own dynamic and I can understand why they do. It was a traumatic moment. And as we now know, a very perilous moment for our democracy.

But it was also a perilous moment, Michael, for the argument that this is a battle between democracies and autocracies that's taking place now. A line that President Biden likes to use and has used often. And we are basically making the case, no, you want to be more like us and less like China and Russia.

While people get the less like China and Russia part, but I'm not sure the version of democracy they are ready to sign up for is necessarily the American version. And that's why the Chinese and the Russians kept playing the tape of January 6 and say, you guys want democracy? This is what you get.

HOLMES: Yes. Yes, reputational harm for sure. I mean, of course, there's a lot of big other issues globally, inflation, looming food shortage, supply chain issues, continue -- energy prices as you pointed out. Many of them tied to or influenced by Russia's invasion. But, you know, when it comes to the G7, what effectively can they do about those myriad issues, which are global issues?

SANGER: Well, I think there are two big energy related issues that are going to have to grapple.

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First of all, they are going to need a common strategy about how to go deal with gas imports from Russia because if they continue trying to import at this level, they are being held at Russia's mercy if the Russians decide that they are not getting enough concessions in Ukraine and they are just going turn the taps off for a bit.

I think a big issue for the Germans is that they had wanted this to be about climate. And since the Germans themselves that have talked about keeping some of their dirtiest generation sites going in order to insulate themselves some more from the Russians. So, we're beginning to see the tension between supporting the Ukrainians and supporting our climate goals.

HOLMES: Yes. Yes. The Germans wanted this one to be all about climate and that got derailed. David, thank you so much. David Sanger, always good to talk to you.

SANGER: Great to be with you.

HOLMES: Now, as the G7 got underway, Russian missiles continued to rain down on Ukraine. These images show a seven-year-old girl -- one of six people wounded when one of those attacks hit an apartment building and a kindergarten in Kyiv. One person was killed. In southeastern Ukraine, the mayor of Enerhodar says hundreds of

residents are being held captive in the Russian occupied city and that the situation has grown worse over the past two weeks. He says people are being electrocuted, beaten, and held for months.

Meanwhile on Sunday, Ukraine's president addressed the people of neighboring Belarus, a close ally of Moscow and where Russia has launched many attacks on Ukraine. Volodymyr Zelenskyy spoke in Russian to make a direct appeal to the Belarusian people.

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ZELENSKYY (through translation): You are being drawn into the war and even more actively than in February and in the spring months. The Kremlin has already decided everything for you, your lives are worth nothing to them. But you are not slaves or cannon fire. You do not have to die and you can prevent anyone from deciding for you what awaits you next.

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HOLMES: Abortion rights supporters took to the streets across the U.S. this weekend to vent their anger at the Supreme Court's decision on Roe v. Wade. New polling finds nearly two thirds of Americans disapprove of that decision. That is still to come on the program.

Also, the high court's ruling could have some Americans crossing the border into Canada. A look at what that could mean for clinics there.

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HOLMES: Welcome back. Shockwaves are still rippling across the United States after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade and ended constitutional protection for abortion. Demonstrations against the ruling have continued throughout the weekend and the first poll conducted after the court's decision is now out.

The CBS News/YouGov poll conducted on Friday and Saturday found that nearly 60 percent of Americans think the ruling was the wrong move. More than half of those surveyed said it was a step backwards for America. Pro-abortion rights protests have taken place in both blue and red states and officials in areas controlled by Democrats say they are taking steps to protect the right to abortion and preparing for an influx of patients traveling from states where the procedure is now banned. Alexandra Field reports for us from Missouri.

ALEXANDRA FIELD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Abortions are no longer being performed in as many as 10 states across the United States. Missouri was among the first to declare that they would put their abortion ban into effect after the Supreme Court's seismic decision that came down. That has left women largely across midwestern states scrambling to figure out where they can go for a procedure if they need one, if they are looking for one. Here in Missouri, it's something that thousands of women have already been doing every year. That's because abortion facilities were so limited in the state already. There was just one clinic still providing abortions. It was open just one day of the week.

We spoke to the Chicago Abortion Fund, which is helping to coordinate care for patients from across the Midwest. They provide both logistical and financial support. It's the logistical help that so many will need right now in trying to determine where they can go for care.

The state of Illinois, according to the Chicago Abortion Fund, is bracing for the possibility that they could see tens of thousands of additional patients entering the state for abortion services. The Chicago fund says that many of those patients will indeed also need financial help, not just to cover the cost of the procedure, but also to cover the cost associated with the travel, hotel rooms, gas, tickets, even childcare. In St. Louis Missouri, Alexandra Field, CNN.

HOLMES: Now, in New York, Planned Parenthood helped kick off the city's pride parade just two days after the Supreme Court ruling. CNN's Polo Sandoval was there with the details.

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The crowds are back to celebrate New York City pride, however this year, another additional element of protest as Planned Parenthood was invited to basically lead the parade his year a symbolic move meant to echo the frustration, and also the anger that we have seen in New York City since the Supreme Court ruling was handed down on Friday.

I heard from not just spectators, but also participants, and heavy on their mind was Justice Clarence Thomas's additional opinion in which he expressed that perhaps it is time to re-examine previous rulings involving gay marriage.

This is certainly a major concern for many of the participants in this year's parade. Though the courts and its conservative majority assure that the Friday ruling is not meant to affect that particular part of the law, that is still providing little to reassure participants here. And one person calling it terrifying.

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UNKNOWN: I think he is really gunning for people who are different and things that he's afraid of and things that a lot of other people are afraid of. It gives us power. It gives us strength to fight back. And, I mean, the fact that he, you know, point out those names. I mean, we know what he's gunning for. So, we're going to be fighting right back.

UNKNOWN: They promised under oath, no. They lied to you under oath. They lied to this community. They lied to my community as a woman. I know I'm safe in New York because it's in our state constitution, but it's not just about us. It's about everyone in all 50 states. (END VIDEO CLIP)

SANDOVAL: Now, we should note that on Friday, the conservative majority did write the ruling that we saw on Friday does not call into question any aspects of any same-sex related rulings in the past, but again, that does little to assure people here.

But it certainly does open up the conversation about what if anything New York will do to take additional steps to codify that aspects of the law. And also, it certainly sets a country on a path to continue further politically charged conversation. Polo Sandoval, CNN, New York.

HOLMES: More than half the states are moving quickly now to ban abortion in the wake of the court's ruling. Now, that has clinics in Canada preparing for possible influx of Americans seeking services. Bell Puri from our affiliate CBC News has the details.

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BELL PURI, CBC NEWS REPORTER (voice-over): Canada has long promised that clinics will be open for American women who want an abortion.

KARINA GOULD, MINISTRY OF FAMILIES, CHILDREN AND SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT: We've had conversations about what it could look like for Canada to support American women in need and I know those conversations are ongoing.

PURI (voice-over): Those who crossed the border for reproductive services will pay out of pocket or through their own insurance.

JILL DOCTORFF, NATIONAL ABORTION FEDERATION OF CANADA: Some of the added barriers to get to Canada would be things like a passport, potentially longer stays, and navigating a health care system that isn't the one that they are used to. So, it is a big unknown.

MICHELLE FORTIN, OPTIONS FOR SEXUAL HEALTH: You know, 60 percent of the people that seek abortions are people that already have children.

PURI (voice-over): It's hard to say how many Americans might come to Canada for abortions --

FORTIN: Coming to Canada would be their only way out of not being criminalized for health care.

PURI (voice-over): But some provinces will likely see more than others.

FORTIN: Especially in the prairie provinces, they are bordering with states whose trigger laws that are in place may make it a crime to get an abortion as of today.

PURI (voice-over): In some urban areas, Canadian patients don't usually have a long wait for an abortion appointment.

(VIDEO PLAYING) PURI (voice-over): But what happens if Americans begin to access the health care system?

JOYCE ARTHUR, ABORTION RIUGHTS COALITION OF CANADA: That even a small number of Americans coming up could overwhelm our health systems, and yes, we are concerned. Currently, we don't have the capacity or the access to accommodate Americans, at least not very many of them.

PURI (voice-over): Right now, in B.C., very few Americans look to Canada for abortions.

FORTIN: It's not super common. I would say that our clinics and our assistance line, field calls, you know, maybe five or six times a week for people looking for resources.

PURI (voice-over): Whether that changes, will be up to Americans to decide if it makes more sense to seek an abortion in states that still allow it or come to Canada. Belle Puri, CBC News, Vancouver.

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HOLMES: And our thanks to our affiliate CBC for that report. We are going to take a quick break. When we come back here on the program, 22 people, most of them teenagers, dying mysteriously at a tavern in South Africa. We'll have the latest on the investigation.

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MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Welcome back to our viewers here in the U.S. and all around the world. I'm Michael Holmes. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM. Now a Sunday bullfighting event turned deadly in Colombia after a stadium partially collapsed. You can see it there. Officials say four people were killed after the three-storey structure collapse and local hospitals have treated more than 300 injured patients from that event.

Now investigators trying to find out what might have caused the collapse. No cause so far reported.

The president of South Africa has expressed his condolences to the families of the 22 who died at a tavern. This is in the east -- the city of East London. The forensic examiners were on the scene on Sunday trying to figure out what caused the deaths. Local health officials said victims were between 18 and 20 years old. Some though may have been as young as 13. CNN's Larry Madowo with more.

LARRY MADOWO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: South African Police say they're spending maximum resources to investigate and figure out exactly what happened at a tavern in the coastal city of East London where kids essentially aged between 13 and 17. According to provincial authorities died in unclear circumstances. The South African Police Minister Bheki Cele said it was not natural causes, but he stopped should have given the exact cause of death because that's what an investigation will unearth.

He was reduced to tears after seeing the bodies of the morgue later, this is what he told reporters.

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BHEKI CELE, SOUTH AFRICAN MINISTER OF POLICE: But when you look at their faces, you realize that they're dealing with kids, kids, kids, kids. Hey, you have had the story that they are young. But when you see them you realize that is a disaster.

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MADOWO: President Cyril Ramaphosa said is on condolences to the families. A statement from his office also said while the president awaits more information on the incident, his thoughts are with the families who have lost children, as well as families who are awaiting confirmation of how their children may have been affected. He pointed out that it was especially tragic that this happened -- this -- during South Africa's youth month when they talk about advancing opportunities economic and social for the country's youth.

And he expects the full force of the law to take effect on those who might be -- have been responsible. But a nation truly in mourning devastated by such a tragedy on people so young. Larry Madowo, CNN, Nairobi.

HOLMES: On Sunday, Turkish police detained more than 350 protesters in Istanbul for defying a ban on marches celebrating Pride Month. According to local groups LGBT (INAUDIBLE) Pride Week, hundreds of people showed up to support the LGBTQ+ community. But the protests were soon broken up by riot police showing here repeatedly beating and kicking someone who's already on the ground.

Turkey's conservative government under President Rajap Tayyip Erdogan has cracked down on local LGBTQ+ events. At least 23 of the protesters have since been released.

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HOLMES: Relief efforts are ramping up in Afghanistan following a deadly earthquake. And the Taliban is promising not to interfere with the distribution of supplies. Aid agencies are sending supplies to the country but bad weather is making it hard to get to remote areas. The 5.9 magnitude quake struck last Wednesday, along the eastern border with Pakistan killing more than 1000 people and destroying homes.

Here's how one survivor described the devastation.

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ABDUL REHMAN, EARTHQUAKE SURVIVOR (through translator): Do you see that house there? Eight people died in one room. Three died in another. That is the dining room. Come with me. Here, three or four goats were killed. Three buffaloes were killed. So a cow over there, in that house, three people injured.

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HOLMES: If you would like to help people in areas hit by the quake, please go to cnn.com/impact. Several ways there that you can help if you so wish.

Still to come on the program. NASA goes down under working with Australia for missions to study the southern hemisphere from space. Fast, a once in a lifetime find as an ice age animal is uncovered by chance in Canada. We'll have details on that and more when we come back.

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HOLMES: Welcome back. NASA is teaming up with an Australian spaceport to launch missions that can only be studied from the southern hemisphere.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Three, two, one, go. Yes.

HOLMES (voice over): Very exciting countdown.

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HOLMES: NASA launching the first of three missions from Australia's Arnhem Space Center on Sunday night. It's the first time NASA has launched a rocket from a commercial facility outside the U.S. The company partnering with NASA says it is a milestone for Australian spaceflight.

MICHAEL JONES, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, EQUATORIAL LAUNCH AUSTRALIA: It's historic for Australia. And so, I don't want that to pass without it, sort of, you know, feeling good. But for us (INAUDIBLE) into it, you know, Fourth of July is the next launch. And so, we need to, you know, dust ourselves off, take a day off and then get back into it in readiness for the next launch because it's just as important.

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HOLMES: Now, with the U.S. Space Agency as its first customer, the Australian Space Center hopes to ramp up and conduct more than 100 launches a year with various clients.

Now the Colorado Avalanche are Stanley Cup champions. They defeated the two-time defending champs, the Tampa Bay Lightning, two-one in game six of the National Hockey League finals on Sunday. The game was tied one to one until halfway through the second period when Colorado scored the deciding goal. This is the team's first Stanley Cup since 2001, and the third overall and they're pretty happy.

If you're joining us from the United States or Canada, I'll be right back with more news after a break. For our international viewers, World Sport coming your way. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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