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Manhunt Underway For Two Suspects In Mass Stabbings In Canada's Saskatchewan Province; Biden Heads To Battleground States Ahead Of Midterm Elections; Interview With NASA Administrator Bill Nelson About Artemis I Moon Mission; Suspect Charged In Disappearance Of Missing Memphis Teacher; Trump Slams FBI And DOJ As Vicious Monsters During Campaign Rally; Trump Calls Biden An Enemy Of The State At Campaign Rally; FEMA: Too Early To Tell When Jackson Will Have Clean Water. Aired 7-8p ET

Aired September 04, 2022 - 19:00   ET

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JIM ACOSTA, CNN HOST: You are live in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Jim Acosta in Washington. And we do begin with breaking news this evening.

At least 10 people are dead and 15 others injured in a string of stabbings across Canada's Saskatchewan Province. Canadian authorities are calling it a mass stabbing, encompassing some 13 crime scenes. A manhunt is now underway. And CNN's Paula Newton joins us now on the phone.

Paula, what can you tell us about this breaking story?

PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (via phone): Well, Jim, at this point it is quite concerning for those not just in the communities where this apparently happened but far beyond there. You know, police are saying that, as you said, they're calling it a mass stabbing. And Jim, it does appear that some of the victims they believe right now may have been targeted but others may have been random.

As you just pointed out, there are at least 13 crime scenes and they're spread over a significant area. They are looking for two suspects that they've now named and they're saying that they may perhaps be in a black Nissan Rogue. Now for that reason, Jim, this is why this situation is so unsettling at this hour. They had told some people in the area to shelter in place. This is of course a holiday weekend. Many people out and about.

There are sporting activities, other community events around. And given the way this happened in such a sudden way they had had calls that they had some injured, that there had been some stabbings. Some people showed up at local medical facilities for treatment and yet it doesn't seem, Jim, as if RCMP were able to put this together and actually named the suspects for quite a bit of time, and given the fact that they are still now at large many people in the community completely unnerved, wondering what will happen next, especially because they have already perhaps traveled over a wide area. And again, Jim, I don't have to tell you how rare this kind of event

would be in Canada and the fact that some witnesses that have spoken of it are really so traumatized by how this could happen, which so far police are saying no firearms were used. They are instead saying, describing it as a mass stabbing -- Jim.

ACOSTA: It's truly bizarre and authorities are saying some of the attacks were targeted and some were random. What can you tell us about that?

NEWTON: Well, you know, in terms of what's happened here, they are saying that the suspects has named are Myles and Damien Sanderson. That's who they're looking for. Some of the locations, one was in James Smith Cree Nation, the other was in the small town of Weldon, Saskatchewan. Jim, a very small place in Northeast Saskatchewan.

It seems that perhaps what might have started as perhaps some type of an altercation, whether it was with people they knew or people they didn't know, they're not quite sure and then it carried on from there, police say, from some type of a crime spree where they, as you said, are looking for at least 13 crime scenes, but police continue to say that they're still not sure because some people were injured, Jim, it seems, and then took themselves either to hospital or to medical clinics.

Police are still trying to piece together exactly what happened over several hundred miles it seems here, and now again obviously still looking for those suspects.

Now I have to say, Jim, you know, right now Canada is still going through a public inquiry into one of Canada's worst mass killings in Nova Scotia in the spring of 2020. Now while that did involve firearms what is most alarming here is that the same thing kind of happened. These are people in rural communities. Some people who are afraid at the time that they were already underserved by law enforcement.

And they were trying to piece together in those hours exactly what was happening. And that's what this public inquiry is trying to uncover right now. And when you look at the details as explained by police just in the last few hours, chillingly, Jim, it seems quite similar. Again though I have to say the most important thing here right now is that those two suspects remain at large.

They are dangerous. They may still be in that vehicle, that black Nissan Rogue, and police are telling everyone, really province wide, which is a huge, you know, undertaking at this point, and the large province of Saskatchewan, are telling people to be on the lookout and in those rural communities, in those areas, in some cases, to actually shelter in place.

ACOSTA: All right. Paula Newton, we know you'll stay on top of it. Please bring us any developments as they come in. Thanks so much for that report. Very disturbing situation in Canada.

[19:05:01] Sixty-five days. That's when Americans will head to the polls to decide who controls Congress and the leadership in both the House and the Senate. President Biden is heading to the key battleground state of Pennsylvania for campaign blitz tomorrow just days after delivering his fiery speech about MAGA Republicans.

CNN's Joe Johns joins me now from the White House.

Joe, we know the president was very fiery, very fired up the other night in Pennsylvania, in Philadelphia. He's going back to the state. What do you think we're going to hear tomorrow?

JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Anybody's guess. And the White House press secretary has said, by the way, Jim that the president will bring up those issues that he raised in that fiery speech at times when he thinks it's appropriate, so the question of course is whether Monday will be an appropriate time.

What he's heading out to Milwaukee and Pittsburgh for are Labor Day events there. Also the president is expected to go later in the week, by the way, to Ohio for what is essentially a ground breaking. All of these states have one thing in common. They're battleground states. Important election states. And it really sort of points up to the fact that the president of the United States just a little while ago that a lot of people were concerned that the president wasn't going to be hitting the road that much simply because of all the challenges faced here at the White House including things like inflation, gas prices, the president's own approval ratings.

But now given the fact that some of those issues have abated or eased just a bit there is hope among Democrats that the midterm elections will not be necessarily as bad as many Democrats thought. Still, you have to say that people here are well aware of the fact that presidents in midterm elections after their first swearing in tend to lose seats.

Jim, back to you.

ACOSTA: All right. Joe Johns over at the White House for us, thanks so much.

NASA's mission to the moon will have to wait to begin possibly until later this year after blastoff was scrubbed for the second time. Artemis 1, which is the first phase of a program that aims to eventually put people on Mars was slated to take off yesterday afternoon, but a week of issues, liquid hydrogen leaks and other technical problems, will keep the rocket grounded here on Earth for some time now.

And joining us now to talk about this is the NASA administrator Bill Nelson.

Bill, thanks so much for being with us on this Labor Day weekend. We greatly appreciate it. Yesterday it was said that you will launch this rocket only when everything is ready and not before but still you have to be disappointed that we didn't see that fire in the trench. BILL NELSON, NASA ADMINISTRATOR: Jim, scrubs are part of the space

program. In my own personal flight 36 years ago on Hoot Gibson's crew on the space shuttle we scrubbed four times. Didn't get off the ground until the fifth try, almost flawless six-day mission and looking back had we launched on any one of those scrubs it wouldn't have been a good day.

So there were problems that occurred in the launch countdown on these two times. And the best thing to do is just scrub it. Come back. They may look at mid-September more than likely. All of the moon and the sun and the earth are going to line up like they want for the trajectory in mid-October.

ACOSTA: Well, and of course in August, in early September, you worry about the weather down there in Florida. And I guess when you're talking about that realistic time frame for the next launch attempt, I suppose as we move further into September and perhaps into October your chances for better weather improve.

NELSON: August, early September is a tough time for weather. We saw that. Interestingly yesterday weather would not have canceled the trip. So it's sometimes a roll of the dice but when you launch rockets you have to make sure that everything is right.

ACOSTA: You know, but, Bill, a lot of people are eager to be able to pull off or see NASA pull off what it was accomplishing back in the 1960s, 1970s with the moon landings. What is the message to folks around the world who really want to see this succeed and maybe worried that they won't? We're looking at pictures of the crowd yesterday. They were camped out. Cars were lined up. You've seen these images before.

And they're all on the edge of their seat, ready to cheer NASA on, and then it doesn't work out. What's the message to all of those folks who want to see this happen?

NELSON: We go when it's right, and we don't take a chance.

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Now it's interesting that how you led into the question because next Monday, a week from today, a week from tomorrow, is the 60th anniversary of President Kennedy's speech at Rice University in which we said we go to the moon and do other things not because it's easy but because it's hard.

Space is hard. And we have seen the tragedies that came along with it where we have lost 17 souls. Apollo 1, Challenger and then Columbia. And so you just got to be careful when you put humans on the top of a rocket that's got all of that fire power, all of that energy. You want to make it right.

A week from tomorrow I will be at Rice Stadium and I will be giving the speech in front of 4,000 public school students who by the way are the same ones the public school students that were invited 60 years ago for President Kennedy's speech. ACOSTA: And, you know, who knows where the space program would be

today if Kennedy had not issued that call. You're absolutely right. And let's talk about what this mission is aimed at, accomplishing, which is landing a crewed mission on Mars. Tell us about how Artemis will one day reach that goal. Do you realistically think that that is technically feasible? I mean, I've read, people say, well, it's almost impossible for humans to ever pull this off.

What do you think? Is it -- do you think we'll see that in our lifetime? And what do you say to the critics or skeptics who wonder, is this even feasible?

NELSON: They said that 60 years ago when Kennedy made his speech and look what happened. Indeed the reason we're going back to the moon is to learn to live, to work, to develop new technologies, to exist and survive in that harsh, very unforgiving environment, in order to send humans to Mars. And your question, could we go to Mars today, and safely keep humans and return them? I doubt it. But as President Obama announced the mission and it has been refined to be probably the late 2030s, we will have developed new technologies that will make that flight possible.

ACOSTA: And does NASA feel pressure from companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin? They're making a lot of progress in, you know, getting into space travel. Not to mention competition from China? Do you have to take all of that in consideration that you have this added competition now?

NELSON: The companies are our partners. This is a public-private partnership. We are going in 2025 to orbit with the Orion spacecraft in lunar orbit and we're going to transfer the crew into a SpaceX lander. And they will go and the first woman and the next man will step on the moon. And stay there for a couple of days.

Now you ask another question about China. That's interesting because China is really good. You know, they're only the second nation to successfully land on Mars with a rover but China has been very uncooperative. They are secretive, they are nontransparent and they have not joined our invitations to join us.

As you know Russia, on the other hand, has been a partner with us in civilian space and that's the irony. Look what's going on with Ukraine with President Putin now.

ACOSTA: Right.

NELSON: And yet in civil space we have cooperated since 1975. In the midst of the Cold War and the Soviet Union, an American spacecraft and a Soviet spacecraft rendezvoused and docked and the crews lived together. And that has continued to this day. They are on the International Space Station with us right now.

ACOSTA: All right. We go to the moon and do the other things not because they are easy but because they are hard. Thank you for bringing Kennedy into the discussion. We wouldn't be where we are today without that call back then. [19:15:05]

Bill Nelson, NASA administrator, thanks so much. Great to see you. Appreciate it.

NELSON: Thank you.

ACOSTA: Coming up, a Memphis teacher went on a jog on Saturday morning and she has not been seen since. New details about the man charged in connection with her disappearance.

You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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ACOSTA: Police in Memphis, Tennessee, have formally charged a man in the disappearance of a missing teacher. Authorities say Eliza Fletcher was out jogging around 4:30 Friday morning when surveillance cameras caught someone forcing her into a dark colored SUV. She is still missing and her family is pleading for her safe return.

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MIKE KENNEY, MISSING WOMAN'S UNCLE: Liza has touched the hearts of many people and it shows. We want to thank the Memphis Police Department, Shelby County Sheriff Department, TBI, FBI and all of the other law enforcement agencies who are working tirelessly to find Liza. The family has met with police and we had shared with them all the information we know. More than anything we want to see Liza returned home safely.

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ACOSTA: And an update now, police have a man in custody. He is a 38- year-old Cleotha Abston, now charged with aggravated kidnapping and tampering with evidence.

Joining me now to talk about this is Mary Ellen O'Toole, a former senior FBI profiler and special agent.

Thanks for joining us. We really appreciate it, Mary Ellen. Now that someone is charged, are you more optimistic that Eliza Fletcher will be found? What do you think?

MARY ELLEN O'TOOLE, FORMER SENIOR FBI PROFILER: Well, I think with someone in custody investigators can hopefully continue to interview him and convince him to explain where Liza is. And if necessary, if they have to, because no one knows what her condition is. She could be injured some place and in need of medical treatment. They could agree to reduce the charges against him if he takes her to Liza. So I think that's really important that they have someone there that they can actually talk to and get some information out of.

ACOSTA: And police say the suspect has been linked to the crime by surveillance video, cell phone records, and his own DNA found on Liza's sandals left at the scene. All of that sounds pretty discouraging and disturbing. If the case really is overwhelming does that improve the likelihood of the suspect talking, do you think?

O'TOOLE: Well, it can but it really does depend on the personality of the offender. If he is looking at this as why should I talk to you, I'm going to go back to prison anyway, so you guys go figure it out. If he coughs that kind of an attitude it's going to be tough. But I think that there's still some wiggle room there for the prosecutors to talk to his attorney and say, you know, we'll reduce the charges if your client will cooperate with us.

And I think because we don't know Liza's condition that's really imperative. Now they'll be looking. They're out looking I'm sure for her everywhere. And they're looking at his car to see if there's any indication where those -- for example, where those tires have been. So they're looking at that. They're looking at his phone records to see where he's been. They're trying to find her on their own but if they have to, they're going to keep talking to him and possibly make a deal with him.

ACOSTA: And what's your tame on how they can crack this? How they could get to finding where Eliza is?

O'TOOLE: Well, again, I think they're going to do it on their own so they have a lot of resources that they bring, with all those agencies, and they're all excellent ones, they will be doing human searches. They'll be bringing in the canines, they'll be doing scent searches, they'll be bringing in the drones. They'll be doing forensics to determine, for example, again, what's on his tires. Could that lead into a specific location?

They'll also be talking to family members, to friends, to say where's this guy go to just hang out sometimes? They may even be looking at unoccupied homes that he's cleaned in the past. So it's a full court press to attempt to find her and find her very quickly.

ACOSTA: Right. And as time goes on it gets much more difficult as you know, Mary Ellen.

Mary Ellen O'Toole, thank you very much. We appreciate your time.

O'TOOLE: You're welcome.

ACOSTA: Coming up, former President Trump campaigns for Republican candidates in Pennsylvania but he uses the rally to lash out at the Justice Department and his successor.

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ACOSTA: In the wake of the FBI search of Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate the FBI is facing an unprecedented number of threats against its personnel and offices. And then last night former President Donald Trump said this. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The FBI and the Justice Department have become vicious monsters, controlled by radical left scoundrels, lawyers, and the media who tell them what to do, you people right there, and when to do it. They're trying to silence me and more importantly they are trying to silence you, but we will not be silenced. Right?

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ACOSTA: And here to discuss that is former FBI senior intelligence adviser and CNN counterterrorism analyst Phil Mudd and CNN national security analyst Juliette Kayyem.

Phil, let me get your reaction to what Trump said -- he said a lot that was irresponsible and dangerous but that last clip that we played, your thoughts?

PHIL MUDD, CNN COUNTERTERRORISM ANALYST: Boy, it makes me a little nervous and in some ways I'm glad to be out. You've got to remember you're talking about the professional part of this. How do you conduct an investigation when you have a former president vilify the FBI but at a personal level?

Remember, people who are in the service have to go home to a spouse or a girlfriend or a family including children, and say we're going into a midterm election cycle where there are election denier who will listen to the president and maybe more significantly into a 2024 election cycle where it's conceivable obviously that you would have once again President Biden versus President Trump.

If you have public information, for example, information about your address, you home address, information on social media, and you're an FBI agent, what would you think, Jim? I can tell you in contrast to the days when I was in the FBI and the CIA, chasing ISIS and al Qaeda, and let me close with this, I would be more concerned about going to my home residence today than I was when I was in the papers with stories about chasing al Qaeda and ISIS.

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I don't know how much to -- how to make it any clearer than that, Jim. You've got to be concerned about personal security.

ACOSTA: It's that bad.

MUDD: Yes.

ACOSTA: And Juliette, it is reminiscent of when the Capitol was being attacked and as rioters were hunting for Vice President Pence at the time, Trump escalated things with a tweet calling out Pence, and then last night, he is calling the current President of the United States an "enemy of the state." He is calling FBI agents and Department of Justice officials vicious monsters. Your thoughts. JULIETTE KAYYEM, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: So, I look at what's

happening with what I call violent-magism. It's not Donald Trump's supporters, it isn't even MAGA. It's the sort of the remaining supporters who show up at these rallies that are not in full attendance, we have to remember that. It is hard for Donald Trump to get a large crowd anymore. He does not have the social media presence that he once did.

But I think the truth is, is that this is -- there is a small part of the supporters who would -- who do support violence, or at least seem receptive to it, at least by what Trump is saying.

And so I look at this as other violent movements. I don't think we have to view ourselves as without agency in response to it, and in that sense, I think this January 6 Committee as well as Biden is focused on the sort of soul of the nation aspects of his speech the other night, are really a way to provide to Republicans an off ramp from what Trump has now become, which is essentially someone who goes after the FBI, does not respect the peaceful transition of power suggests, if not direct violence.

And so in some ways, I think, you know, you're sort of seeing the counter to what Trump used to do, and I think some of the metrics are pretty good in the sense of viewing this violent ideology as dangerous, of course, is what Phil was saying, but not as growing.

And I think that's really important to remember. Violent movements, they either grow or they fizzle. And I think one of the goals of responsible Republicans, you saw Bill Barr and others coming out the other day, to push back against the violence -- that's what I'm focused on -- is really important and making this strain, at least, not as strong as it could be.

ACOSTA: And here's what Republican Congresswoman Liz Cheney tweeted today, we can share this: "Trump is attacking law enforcement, and yet again, using language he knows will provoke violence. Only one group of Americans has a chance to diminish this danger -- Republicans. If my fellow Republicans failed to step up to stop this, they will share the blame for all that follows."

Phil, you worked on radicalization for years. What would be the effect if Republican leaders decided to condemn these lies, these conspiracy theories, this extreme rhetoric, and you know, Lindsey Graham was saying there's going to be rioting in the streets if Trump is arrested, and so on.

Wouldn't it be better for folks like him to be trying to tamp down what Donald Trump was doing last night?

MUDD: Yes, and let me be clear here and talk about my previous comments, and I'm commenting at what Juliette said. I'm not as comfortable or confident as she is because I think the event is going into multiple -- the midterm, as I mentioned earlier and the 2024 election cycle.

I think the challenge here is not just a percentage of the electorate that is angry. I think the challenge and from what I've seen in decades in extremism is leadership that validates people who believe that violence is okay.

So let me cut to the chase on this. What I'm talking about is more and more candidates, and you would have thought this was sort of bizarre, five or six years ago. More and more candidates will be elected to Congress who say the elections were stolen. Those members will be able to question the FBI, they will have their microphones amplified on places like Twitter, because they might be Members of Congress.

And if you go into an election in 2024 that's tightly contested, they will be able to support those like the January 6th people who might say that election was stolen.

I'm typically a glass half full guy. I'm like a glass three quarters empty guy right now. More Americans are saying we're robbed, and they are angry. I'm not too optimistic, Jim.

ACOSTA: Right. How do you change those minds? Juliette, I guess is this a national security issue? Is this something that national security officials should be concerned about?

KAYYEM: Oh, absolutely, and the FBI has clearly stated that both the sort of the violent stream of this movement is the most dangerous threat to law enforcement and to the American society and election workers and others, and look I actually agree with Phil.

I don't know how this ends, but I know how you fight it, right? I mean, in other words, I think what we're starting to see, I really believe starting with the January 6 Committee with their focus on sort of the off ramping of many Republicans from this movement, and then continuing with, with President Biden sort of trying to reach out and say, "Look, you know, there's the GOP and then there's this element that's aligning itself against FBI agents, against the rule of law, against the peaceful transition of power, and that's not you."

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KAYYEM: I mean, essentially say, "That's not you." Whether it works or not, I don't know. I too do not know how this ends, but to the extent you're focused on sort of violence that has been an extension of politics, which is what Trump is clearly delivering now, there is a way to counter that, and it begins with of course, Republicans, but it begins with people not voting for it, and I think that's the case that Liz Cheney is currently making.

ACOSTA: All right, Phil Mudd, Juliette Kayyem, thanks very much. Some sober thoughts from both of you this evening on this Labor Day weekend, but we appreciate it. Thank you so much.

Coming up, it's still too early to say when residents in Jackson Mississippi will have clean running water. More details on the city's nearly week long crisis.

You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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ACOSTA: In Jackson, Mississippi, Federal emergency officials warn it is too early to predict when the city's beleaguered residents will have clean and safe tap water, but there is one sign of progress almost a week all of this started, most residents now have enough water pressure to flush toilets and do more, battling fires, and using fire hydrants and that sort of thing.

CNN's Nadia Romero has the latest from Jackson -- Nadia.

NADIA ROMERO, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Jim, it seems at least one issue, not having water pressure has been resolved for the majority of residents here in Jackson, but the other long-term problem of water quality that has yet to be resolved. Take a look.

This is one of the water distribution sites put together by the state. You can see the National Guard loading up people with hand sanitizer and two cases of water. And for many people, this may be their only supply of clean water because the water coming out of their tap, they just can't drink it and maybe brown, yellow, or have chemicals, and have been contaminated.

So you have to use bottled water to brush your teeth to cook, to do anything, or you have to boil that water that's coming out of the tap.

This has been the issue here in Jackson 150,000-plus residents. You can see the kids there in the back of the car. They've been out of school for a week because the problem persists in the school buildings as well.

Now, some people have the ability to come out to these distribution sites but others who are seniors or disabled, they're not able to come out. I want to introduce you to Alma Reginal. She's a wonderful spirit, a woman who says that she's so grateful as she waited for people to deliver water to her building. Take a listen.

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ALMA REGINAL, JACKSON RESIDENT: I wouldn't have any other options, because no one else has volunteered to bring us any water. I don't know why they think that everybody has transportation, everybody doesn't have transportation.

And I would appreciate it if they would check other areas and other places because there are a lot of people that don't have the opportunity or the transportation to get some water for themselves, and it would be wonderful if it could happen for everybody.

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ROMERO: And she told me that this has been a really scary situation for her and her neighbors because they can't physically come out to these sites to get bottles of water. So, they have to wait for the Mississippi Urban League and other organizations to deliver water to them.

Now, the Governor says that they're working on this issue. The Mayor says they're working on this issue, but remember that there could be more delays, more ruptures, more leaks and more issues to come -- Jim.

ACOSTA: All right, thanks, Nadia.

And more on our breaking news. Ten people are dead in Canada after a string of stabbings. The very latest is coming up next.

You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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ACOSTA: We are following breaking news in Canada right now where at least 10 people are dead and 15 others injured in a string of stabbings across Canada's Saskatchewan Province.

Authorities are calling it a mass stabbing, encompassing -- get this -- 13 different crime scenes. Officials are now advising Saskatchewan residents to shelter in place, a manhunt is also underway.

Two suspects have been identified. Here they are: Damien Sanderson and Myles Sanderson. Police say they're traveling in a black Nissan Rogue with a Saskatchewan license plate.

And back with us is CNN national security analyst, Juliette Kayyem.

Juliette, this is a bizarre case. We were talking about this with Paula Newton at the top of the hour. She was indicating that these -- all of these crime scenes may encompass some hundreds of miles.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police say early indications maybe that the victims were attacked randomly, but we obviously, we are trying to get all the information in and some of that may change.

What stands out to you?

KAYYEM: Yes, I mean, first let's just focus on the manhunt, and this is where I'm very confident in Canadian authorities. They've got the names of the killers. They've got the car. It's a big area, as you were saying, and the killing spree took place across a big area. But I have no doubt that they will be found relatively soon, even as we head into evening, here and in Canada.

I think the second is, of course, going to get to motive. I know it's hard for people to first sort of recognize like, how did they not know this was going on? And so one of the challenges in a spree like this, which is probably -- which is slow moving, because of course it's not what we're more familiar with, which is mass shootings, is that you know, for them to identify that it's the same people going after whether it's random or not, victims might take a while. And by then the killers, the two brothers are on to, you know, 50 miles down the street or a hundred miles down the highway. So, that's the challenge of what we call situational awareness.

When people say it's bizarre, I don't want to defend it. It's just, I can explain it in some ways about what happened. The third piece is of course motive. The Jane Smith Cree Nation of Canada, doesn't call it Indians, it is aboriginal but sort of Eskimo and Indian communities is under lockdown.

I don't know if that means that they suspect that they were the target or if they just had more people killed because of their location, so we're -- the next thing will be what is the motive of the two of them, so that's sort of where we are right now.

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ACOSTA: And we want to make sure our Canadian viewers understand, we have a lot of Canadian viewers, there is a Shelter-in-Place Order right now in that area. They are advising residents in Saskatchewan to shelter in place. And Juliette, what does that mean? Does that mean that authorities aren't really sure or don't have many leads on where these two individuals are? And that people really just about anywhere in that area need to be inside locked doors?

KAYYEM: Yes, so basically, I mean, there's going to be two pieces going on right now. One is the Canadian authorities in the last press conference have been very, very public. We know what they look like, we know what the car looks like. You're going to need people's help in finding them.

And we know this certainly here in the United States, this happens a lot. You put out the name, you put out the car, and it is some random person on the highway who sees the car. So, that's sort of the crowdsourcing of Intelligence, which is a very good thing.

The second though, is that they are still at large, whether they are trying to evade police or continuing on their killing spree, the Canadians don't know yet and so for the public there, and thank you for reminding me of our viewers, that the shelter-in-place means you get home or you get somewhere where you are not going to be a potential victim if the killing spree continues.

Once again, though, the Canadian Royal Police are very sophisticated and I'm confident in the way, I can be, in these things that at least they will be able to get them in the next 24 hours.

ACOSTA: How do you suppose they were able to pull off something like this? Multiple stabbing incidences across a big swath of area? That's just wild.

KAYYEM: You know it is just wild. You know, we call this slow roll crisis, unfortunately. So unlike the sort of mass shootings that we have here in the United States, where you sort of like there is a moment and then people are dead. This occurred over a long and large geographic area.

And so what that means is that people's -- authorities' ability to sort of absorb or consume what, in fact is happening, right, that this is -- that these stabbings here are related to stabbings that happened two hours later, or however longer later was really hard for them -- it might have taken them a while once they were able to figure it out, then they, and of course, they come out with the names. They know who they want.

So, I think that's important that they are getting the information out there now to stop the killing spree.

ACOSTA: All right, Juliette Kayyem, we will be tracking this as the night progresses. Thanks so much for that expertise. We appreciate it.

KAYYEM: Thank you.

ACOSTA: All right, and coming up, Dave Grohl and the Foo Fighters with an emotional tribute to their friend and late drummer, but one very special guests stole the show.

But first, it's the unbelievable story of the man who took on Putin and lived to expose the truth, Sundance-award winning CNN film "Navalny" airs tonight at eight on CNN. Here's a preview.

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(ALEXEI NAVALNY speaking in foreign language.)

TRANSLATION: Vladimir Alexandrovich. It's Alexei Navalny calling. And I was hoping you could tell me why you wanted to kill me?

Hang up.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Remarkably, Vladimir Putin faces a legitimate opponent, Alexei Navalny.

NAVALNY: I don't want once Putin to be President.

(ALEXEI NAVALNY speaking in foreign language.)

TRANSLATION: I will end war.

NAVALNY: If I want to be a leader of a country I have to organize people.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Kremlin hates no only so much that they refused to say his name.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Passengers heard Navalny cry out in agony.

NAVALNY: Come on. Poisoned seriously?

We are creating the coalition to fight this regime.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you are killed what message do you leave behind for the Russian people?

NAVALNY: It is very simple. Never give up.

ANNOUNCER: "Navalny" tonight at eight on CNN.

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ACOSTA: Now to a one in 200-year flood event in Georgia today. This was the scene in the northern part of the State. flash floods overwhelming roads, homes, and businesses.

Georgia's Governor, Brian Kemp has issued a State of Emergency with an estimated foot of rain expected in some places expected to cause rivers to rise rapidly. And it's not over yet, more rain is expected tonight. Please stay safe.

The Foo Fighters took the stage at London's Wembley Stadium last night. Did you see this? It was the first of two concerts paying tribute to the band's late drummer, Taylor Hawkins who died in March.

Paul McCartney, Liam Gallagher and Queen were just some of the all star performers, but it was a version of the song, "My Hero" featuring 16-year-old Shane Hawkins sitting in for his dad that stole the show. You have to see this.

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ACOSTA: He just made his dad proud.

Keep rocking, everybody. That's the news.

Reporting from Washington, I'm Jim Acosta. I'll see you back here next Saturday at 3:00 PM Eastern.

Up next, it's the award-winning film, "Navalny."

Thanks very much for watching. I hope you all have a terrific week this week. Have a very good night.

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