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Queen's Coffin Now At Official Scottish Residence Of Royal Family; Ukraine Forces Appear To Have Opened A New Front; VP Harris Declines To Say If DOJ Should Charge Trump; Biggest Midterm For The Democrats; Nation Marks 21st Anniversary Of 9/11 Terror Attacks; Queen Elizabeth Remembered Fondly In Kentucky. Aired 7-8p ET

Aired September 11, 2022 - 19:00   ET

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MURRAY BARTLETT, ACTOR: Welcome to the White Lotus.

STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Breakout star and acting nominee, Murray Bartlett, summing up the award season by --

BARTLETT: I mean, it's been pretty epic.

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ELAM: Now the Emmys traditionally do air on Sundays, however NBC has "Sunday Night Football," so the show is getting moved to Monday night -- Pam.

PAMELA BROWN, CNN HOST: All right, thanks so much, Stephanie.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: To show respect to a woman who has been an inspiration to me all my life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lovely lady. You know, a great queen.

ISA SOARES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Giving Scots an opportunity to pay their respects and show really their affection and their deep love for a monarch.

JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: For all of those who have lost someone, 21 years is both a lifetime and no time at all. It's good to remember. These memories help us heal.

MELISSA BELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Ukrainian forces have been able to take control of some villages here in the Kharkiv region.

SEN. MARK WARNER, (D-VA): The Ukrainians are demonstrating their will to fight, and candidly, the Russians' inability and lack of supplies to their troops is playing out as well.

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BROWN: I'm Pamela Brown in Washington. You are live in the CNN NEWSROOM.

The first leg of a final royal journey. The funeral cortege bearing the coffin of Queen Elizabeth II arrived today in the Scottish capital Edinburgh.

Applause and a show of love as the Queen's flag-draped coffin passed through the city's Royal Mile. For 500 years this has been a processional route for kings and for queens. Today it was part of the six-hour funeral procession from Balmoral Estate where the Queen died on Thursday. And across the countryside through villages and cities, crowds of mourners and admirers lined the streets to pay their respects.

These scenes will be repeated as the Queen's coffin travels back to London for the funeral at Westminster Abbey a week from tomorrow. And here is one of the many poignant moments of this day. Princess Anne, the Queen's daughter, drops a curtsy to her mother as she enters the royal family's official Scottish residence, the Palace of Holyroodhouse. Tonight she lies in rest there.

And with this final farewell comes the birth of a new royal era. CNN's Nic Robertson has the latest.

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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR (voice-over): At Buckingham Palace, massive crowds greet King Charles ahead of some of his first meetings as the nation's new king. In Wales, Northern Ireland, and Scotland celebration as his royal proclamation is read out Sunday.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: God save the king.

ROBERTSON: A more muted tone in Balmoral where his mother passed away on Thursday. The Queen's coffin began a six-hour journey to Edinburgh all part of a ceremony approved by the queen herself. Crowds lined the streets as the Queen's casket passed them by. The cortege accompanied by the Queen's daughter Princess Anne wound its way through remote villages and cities of Scotland. Edinburgh's Royal Mile packed with mourners.

(On-camera): The crowd gently clapping. And there goes the Queen's coffin around the corner.

(Voice-over): People of all ages straining at the barriers for a better view, all coming to say good-bye to Britain's longest serving monarch. Some had even saved spots along the road since news of the Queen's death first broke.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A lot of people have been here for hours and the mood has been quite somber. But also quite nice. People talking fond memories about the Queen.

ROBERTSON: And this young girl will always live with the Queen's legacy. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She was actually named Georgia Elizabeth after

the Queen so we thought it would be nice for her to grow up and be told that she was here today.

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ROBERTSON: People even bringing their pets out to pay their respects. In memory of the Queen's beloved corgis.

Journey's end, this day the palace of Holyrood House. The Queen to lie in the throne room. A memorial service Monday in nearby St. Giles' Cathedral is next. In death, as she lived her life, in service.

KATE WILLIAMS, CNN ROYAL HISTORIAN: This is her last royal engagement, and this journey has symbolized her duty, her service, also her life.

ROBERTSON: Nic Robertson, CNN, Edinburgh, Scotland.

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BROWN: Our thanks to Nic. And here's a look at tomorrow's schedule of events in Scotland. At 9:35 a.m. Eastern Time the Queen's coffin will be moved in a procession from Holyroodhouse to St. Giles' Cathedral. And here's a look at that route called the Royal Mile. King Charles and other members of the royal family will walk in the procession. At 9:55 a.m., the coffin arrives at the cathedral. And at 10:00 a.m., King Charles and other royals will attend a service of prayer at the cathedral. Later in the day around 2:20 p.m. the king and other royals will hold a vigil at the cathedral.

So let's continue this conversation now. James Roscoe is the deputy head of mission at the British embassy here in Washington and he was communications secretary to the Queen from 2013 to 2017.

Deputy Ambassador, thank you for coming on. I mean, you're really seeing this through the lens of two different roles you played. Once the press secretary to the Queen, now the deputy ambassador. She was beloved by much of the world. And we're seeing just these huge crowds, this outpouring of love for her. You knew her well. What made her so special?

JAMES ROSCOE, FORMER COMMUNICATIONS SECRETARY TO THE QUEEN: I think she had three different roles, and people saw her in these different roles in different ways. She was our head of state, and so you would see her in her constitutional role, opening parliament and setting out the government's business. She was head of nation. You'd see her moving around the country and indeed around world in her realms meeting normal people, having conversations with them. Always interested, always engaged.

And then she was the private queen who had her staff and her family and she could maybe set aside those roles in those private conversations and be herself. But I think the thing that really made her special was in part her longevity. For a British person she represented continuity. She represented our connection with our past both long term past in terms of the royal family but also the last 70 years in which she was queen. So I think it was all of those things somehow magically brought together in one person.

BROWN: She was truly tireless in her public service as you well know as someone who also served as her press secretary, seeing her day in, day out, fulfilling her duty. She was attentive to even the smallest of details. Tell us more about what it was like to work for her. How often did you interact?

ROSCOE: So she was absolutely -- her attention to detail was extraordinary. And really in some ways we only saw the tip of the iceberg. You saw the Queen when she was out and about engaging the public. And in fact she used to say she needed to be seen to be believed. And that was one of the reasons why she wanted to be in the public eye and engaging people. But every single day she was taking a government box. She was taking government papers, approving government legislation, and we forget that there is a key constitutional role as well.

But I think the moment I realized how exacting she could be was the day I first met her, when I was expecting quite a sort of gentle chat and I sort of sat down, you know, thinking she might ask me about my past or what I had done so far and as I sort of hit the seat she said, so what are you going to do for me? So I sort of gave my first answer and she said, and what else? And sort of racking my brain. I came up with some more stuff. And she went, hum. And what else?

And you know, she was very good at keeping her team, her staff on the spot, but she was also incredibly loyal to her staff. And I think we were all very loyal in return.

BROWN: You clearly gave some good answers because you got the job so kudos to you for that. And I wonder, I mean, you were there by her side during some tumultuous times as would be the case for anyone in that role. Publicly she was known for being stoic. And I'm wondering when you were with her behind the scenes was she that way as well going through these different challenges?

ROSCOE: I think she was pretty consistent in being stoic actually. She was very much the public persona in private when it came to that part of her life and that came through in the work ethic.

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And I think it came through in, you know, her ability just to keep going in incredibly tough and difficult times because she knew that that's just what she had to do. And I think that was something that came from the war and from that period in her life where I think that generation just learned that was the only way to do it.

BROWN: Yes. I mean, she had a remarkable ability to compartmentalize. It really was truly remarkable.

I want to talk about 9/11. Today is the 21st anniversary of 9/11. And when the U.S. was shaken to its core by the terrorist attacks, the Queen showed her compassion and her solidarity in a very moving way. Let's watch.

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BROWN: So she broke with a 600-year tradition and instructed the guards of Buckingham Palace to play the U.S. national anthem. It remains deeply moving 21 years later. Just tell us how remarkable is that as you watch this.

ROSCOE: I mean, it was remarkable in the sense that it was as you say a break with tradition. But it was also unremarkable in the sense that it's the kind of thing that she would do. 9/11 as we heard earlier on your program was such an extraordinary moment and a bit like this week where you were mourning with us, we were absolutely mourning with you. And of course in addition to the thousands of Americans who died, a large number of British people died as well.

But I think that she was very conscious of the links between our countries and I think she felt, you know, of the United States as our kin. And she was very conscious of the special relationship and our shared values. And I think she knew and she saw that 9/11 was an attack on the United States but also on those values. And that's why she realized that something extraordinary had to be done to show that solidarity.

BROWN: And extraordinary it was. Before we let you go, I have to ask this question. If you were still press secretary, what advice would you give to King Charles as he navigates this new role?

ROSCOE: I'm not sure he needs any advice. His speech to the country the day after the Queen died was I thought an incredible speech. And I think we saw a subtle change come over him in some ways. I think we saw his persona change in the way that I describe the Queen as having those different persona. I feel like we saw Charles the king for the first time and a bit more gravitas and a commitment to what will be a complex but hopefully as successful a reign as his mother had.

BROWN: Yes, and he made clear that he will be stepping away from some of the issues and causes he has been passionate about because he knows the duty that he has before him, clearly shares that same sense of duty as his mother did.

James Roscoe, deputy ambassador, thank you so much.

ROSCOE: Thank you for having me.

BROWN: Great talking with you.

Well, the White House says President Biden will attend the Queen's funeral without a delegation. Buckingham Palace has invited only President Biden and First Lady Jill Biden to the funeral. In the past state funerals have allowed U.S. presidents to bring other officials with them. The Queen's funeral service will be September 19th.

Well, Queen Elizabeth loves horses. She rode them. She trained them. Coming up, I'm going to talk to two men who met the Queen when she came to my home state for the Kentucky Derby. I am so looking forward to that segment. Plus Ukraine's military keeps the pressure on Russia as they claim Russia is fleeing a key town. We're going to talk about that and more right after this quick break.

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BROWN: The war in Ukraine appears to be entering a new phase. Ukrainian forces unfurled their flag in an eastern city that was under Russian occupation for months. Russian forces may have retreated during a new offensive eastward through the Kharkiv region, but they are not gone.

Melissa Bell is in the region tonight -- Melissa.

BELL: Pam, two missile strikes tonight on Kharkiv City, evidence that Russian forces may be trying to take back control. An electricity black out not just here but also in the Donetsk region. This confirmed by the Ukrainian president, President Zelenskyy, tonight in his daily address. We had the opportunity early on of traveling further into the Kharkiv region. And in particular to the town of Kupiansk.

You'll remember that we spoke yesterday about the Ukrainian flag being raised over that town and what we saw was in fact evidence that is far from under Ukrainian control. Evidence of continued Russian shelling inside this town that is key to the Russian supply lines to their front lines further to the south.

We also had the opportunity to travel to those villages that were taken early on in this eastern offensive, towns and villages where even now Ukrainian investigators are looking into exactly what went on during those six months of occupation and finding evidence they say of war crimes. What we saw was the exhumation of two civilians killed in the very first few days of the invasion back in February, and evidence once again of exactly what went on over the course of those six months of occupation -- Pam.

BROWN: All right. Thanks so much, Melissa Bell.

Well, as his troops advance in eastern Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy remains defiant. And he talked exclusively with CNN's Fareed Zakaria while walking in the open outside the presidential palace. Zelenskyy says he is not afraid of Russia or Vladimir Putin.

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FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN HOST, FAREED ZAKARIA GPS: So I feel like every time I've talked to you in the past you've been in a bunker.

PRES. VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINE: Yes.

ZAKARIA: Now here we are. We did the interview in the presidential palace. We're on the grounds. Is this a confidence that Putin can't hit you here?

ZELENSKYY: Nobody knows where he wants to push rocket. From the mind is this, nobody, I think, understand it until they begin to do. Each morning and in the night, the rockets can come from, you know, even Belorussia -- from Russia, occupied. It doesn't matter for me because what -- we can't be afraid of him and I'm not afraid.

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BROWN: And that was Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy talking with CNN's Fareed Zakaria in Kyiv.

So should Donald Trump face criminal charges over the classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago? Plus, who is the gutsiest woman in politics? I'll ask our political panel, Alice Stewart and Maria Cardona, up next.

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BROWN: The court battle over documents seized at former President Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort will continue tomorrow. Trump's legal team has until 10:00 a.m. Eastern to respond to the Justice Department's latest request. The DOJ wants Judge Aileen cannon to revisit her ruling and allow investigators to continue reviewing the classified documents found on the property. Meanwhile Vice President Harris today was asked if Trump should be charged if prosecutors determined he broke the law.

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KAMALA HARRIS, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED NATIONS: I wouldn't dare tell the Department of Justice what to do.

CHUCK TODD, MSNBC HOST: What do you say to the argument that it would be too divisive for the country to prosecute a former president?

HARRIS: I think that our country is a country that has gone through different periods of time where the unthinkable has happened. And where there has been a call for justice and justice has been served.

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BROWN: Joining us now is our political panel, Republican strategist Alice Stewart and Democratic strategist Maria Cardona.

Always great to have you on, ladies.

MARIA CARDONA, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Thank you.

BROWN: All right, so on the heels of what we just heard from the vice president, I mean, that was a bit of a non-answer there. Wondering what you think. How difficult is it for the administration to strike the right tone here?

CARDONA: Well, I think that difficulty that you heard in her answer is exactly the right thing to do because they shouldn't be involved in anything having to do with the Department of Justice. They shouldn't be seen in any way as putting their thumbs on the scale of whatever the Justice Department wants to do moving forward in terms of trying to seek justice either for former President Trump or anyone else.

And I think one of the things that we have to keep in mind is that the same way that it was completely inappropriate and unjust for anyone including the former President Trump to weaponize the Department of Justice in going after his political enemies and in saying awful things about his former AG for not wanting to go after his political enemies, we also can't swing the pendulum on the other side and say, well, just because he's a former president and because this could be too divisive, we're going to let him get away with breaking the law.

He is not above the law. No one is above the law. And so that's why I think this administration is playing it just right so that they don't seem to be saying anything one way or the other that will influence what ultimately the Department of Justice will be doing.

BROWN: And hanging over everything that anyone says right now is of course the fact that the midterms are just under two months away, right.

This morning Senator Tim Scott, Alice, was asked about recent comments from Mitch McConnell hinting that the GOP Senate candidates may not be the strongest. Here's what Senator Scott had to say.

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SEN. TIM SCOTT (R-SC): The players are on the field. We are eight weeks away which is kind of like saying we're in the last two minutes of the fourth quarter. So the truth is, who we have on the field is who we're going to play. I am excited about the candidates that we have overall because I do believe it gives us the opportunity to win back the majority and to return sanity in Washington, which will reverberate around the country.

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BROWN: What do you take? How do you take away what he said? I mean, it didn't seem like a ringing endorsement.

ALICE STEWART, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I heard shades of Mitch McConnell's concerns about candidate quality to be quite honest. And there are some people that won the primaries with the election denier ideas. And those are good to motivate the base but that's not the winning formula as we head to the general election. I'm going to continue Senator Scott's theme on sports. These are the players on the field. We are in the final quarter. I suggest we send a lot of them back to training camp and go through some drills.

Three things I would coach them on as they hit the field. Number one most importantly appeal to independents. Motivate the base. And also stick to the issues that are important to voters. And that is inflation, economy, cost of living, jobs, crime, and education. Stick to those over and over and make sure that the issues that are important to the American people in the future is what you're talking about between now and election day, and not past grievances because people will go to the polls if you give them a reason to vote for something that helps them

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And the more we can focus on that, I think is a winning formula and it is a touchdown pass for the Republican community.

BROWN: All right, sticking with the analogy here. But you know, Maria, the bottom line is that things seem to be looking up for Democrats in a way that even a month ago, we didn't think, right? Where do you think they're still vulnerable, though, the Democrats?

CARDONA: I think that sometimes Democrats are our own worst enemy and we try to step on our own victories. And so I would just say, we cannot be complacent, right?

Every single thing that I've heard recently, like you said, seems to be looking up for us. The momentum seems to be at our back, but it is still very early, right? Two months before the election is a lifetime in politics, several lifetimes in politics and anything can happen.

So, I would say, we continue to focus on what we want to happen in November, continue to communicate the message of how important this election is for every American to come out and vote, continue to focus on this administration's and Democrats' role and all of the legislative victories and what they're going to do for everyday people, and also continue to focus on the threat to democracy if we hand over control of both Houses of Congress to Republicans.

BROWN: You know, it is interesting, Alice, when you were talking about, you know, what Republicans need to be focusing, I don't believe I heard abortion with what you listed.

But I want to add to that, I was speaking to a Republican Member of Congress earlier this week, who said, look, I expressed a lot of concern that the abortion issue is going to backfire for Republicans, those who have been pushing for a total ban.

We now saw in South Carolina, that they actually didn't get a near total ban through which is -- which was a shock.

STEWART: Right.

BROWN: And I'm wondering, what you think about that? Do you -- I know you're pro-life.

STEWART: Right.

BROWN: But are you sensing that concern among Republicans?

STEWART: What we are seeing, as we saw already -- I mean, the issue of abortion is on the ballot. It has been a tremendous motivating issue for Democrats and for women, getting a lot of people out when that is the single issue on the ballot.

But the reality, when we're heading into the midterm elections, in terms of the issues that motivate voters, it is still the pocketbook issues, and abortion still comes in at five and six on the issues in orders of importance to the American people.

So, I do believe in November, the issues of economic importance are going to outweigh abortion. But again, this is big picture, average voters going to the polls on the candidates that represent the full slate of values that are important to them.

Again, you're right when abortion is the only issue on the ballot, and it is a referendum or an amendment, it is a motivator. But big picture, people are looking at pocketbook issues.

CARDONA: I hope they continue to think this way so that they ignore abortion as an issue because abortion has been seen recently as the major motivator in women, young women especially going to register to vote.

So, I think we haven't even seen the beginning of a tidal wave of the women who are going to go to the polls simply because they are pissed off that Republicans want to take away their right to do what they want to do with their bodies.

BROWN: Yes. All right, well, we shall see, right? We'll see in less than a couple of months how it shakes out with the midterms.

Thank you both, Alice Stewart and Maria Cardona. Appreciate your time tonight.

Well today, the nation paused to remember the thousands killed on this date 21 years ago, September 11th.

Up next, some of the somber ceremonies and how people are coping.

You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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BROWN: A live look here at the tribute and light from the former site of the World Trade Center Towers. These beams of light mark the exact spot where the towers once stood.

It's been 21 years to the day since terrorists attacked the United States on September 11th. The President, Vice President, and First Lady led memorials in New York, Shanksville, Pennsylvania, and at The Pentagon honoring the nearly 3,000 people who died that day.

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JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: For all those who have lost someone, 21 years is both a lifetime and no time at all.

It's good to remember. These memories help us heal, but they can also open up the hurt and take us back to that moment when the grief was so raw.

(GIRL singing "Star Spangled Banner.") (FDNY playing bagpipes.)

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(CROWD singing "Star Spangled Banner.")

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BROWN: You are in the CNN NEWSROOM.

Some Americans this weekend are remembering the time they spent with Queen Elizabeth sharing their mutual love of horses including on the farm I grew up running around on.

Up next, they're going to join us with their stories and I cannot wait for this conversation.

We'll be right back.

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BROWN: When she died on Thursday, Queen Elizabeth left behind four dogs. Two of them are Pembroke Welsh Corgis, the breed she was devoted to and a source close to the Duke of York now says Andrew and Sarah will be taking in those pups.

Even though the Duke and Duchess divorced in 1996, they both live at the Royal Lodge on the Windsor Estate. Fergie had bonded with the late Queen over their shared love of dog walking, and horseback riding. It remains unclear though who will adopt the Queen's other two dogs, a dorgi, which is a dachshund-Corgi mix and a cocker spaniel.

Well, we have talked about the Queen's devotion to her corgis, but they weren't the only four-legged loves in her life. She also had a lifelong passion for horses, including a keen appreciation of horse racing. That interests in thoroughbreds brought her to the cradle of American horse racing, my home state of Kentucky.

Joining me now is Price Bell and Headley Bell from Mill Ridge Farm in Lexington, a place that I loved to spend time running around in as a child. So this is truly special to have you both on Headley and Price.

You know, Headley, I've got to say, I had no idea about all of the Royal connections to Mill Ridge Farm until we were looking to speak to people in Lexington, who had met the Queen and who, you know, who had a farm where the Queen had visited and I said, "Mill Ridge Farm? I grew up in their barns going in and out."

Your family's breeding program first got the Queen's attention in 1968. Bring us up to date. Why so?

HEADLEY BELL, MILL RIDGE FARM: Well, Pamela, thank you so much for having us.

My mother, whom you likely know, you wouldn't have necessarily known her personally, but she bred a horse by the name of Sir Iver, and Sir Iver, he was fouled in 1965, and in 1968, as you said, he won the Epsom Darby and that's the biggest race really could be considered one of the biggest races in the world because they've been racing longer in England than anywhere else.

So, when she managed to breed the Epsom Darby winner, that really got all the attention of the Europeans and with that they started coming to ban to American bred horses.

BROWN: Wow. And you know, I remember spending time again on the farm running around looking for cats and so forth. I never remembered seeing the Queen, and she had visited twice.

Here is a picture of me as a kid there on the farm that we're showing you on your screen with my cousins at the time. I have such fond memories.

She made five visits to Kentucky in her lifetime. In fact, she came to Mill Ridge Farm in 1989 and 1991, again, little did I know as a little girl.

Price you have special memories of that as a child. We are both around the same age. Tell us about it. What was that like meeting the Queen? Did you understand the significance of it at the time?

PRICE BELL, MILL RIDGE FARM: I knew that the Secret Service had really cool watches, that they could walkie talkie into and that was more captivating admittedly than -- a memory that stands out as much as anything else, and I remember my dad gave me great instruction on how to shake hands on the way out there and we were driving out in our station wagon and dad was reaching around behind the bench and looking me in the eyes saying, "Shake my hand. Squeeze just right. Shake my hand."

And there is a great picture that's captured and you can see dad's, I guess terse look. He is paying more attention to me and the shake that he has anything else, and I don't think I disappointed or at least, you know, but it was great.

And it was, I think I will add, you know, my grandmother was one of the first Americans to breed and sell an Epsom Darby winner, may have been one of the first women to do so. And Her Majesty was captivated with the sport of thoroughbred racing and just had such a regard for my grandmother and trying to understand what was the secret sauce in how to breed such a champion horse.

And so they really bonded over that. That love of the quest of breeding an incredible racehorse.

BROWN: Yes, and I've got to say, by the way on the handshake, you look so confident shaking the Queen's hand. Good job, dad, training him for that moment.

H. BELL: Thank you.

BROWN: I imagined though you were nervous, is he going to do everything I told him to do, but he nailed it.

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BROWN: I want to talk a little bit more because again, she came to visit the farm twice, Headley, tell us a little bit more about her love of horses and what you picked up during those visits.

H. BELL: Well, that really is -- that's really it. Her love of the horse, the love of the land, it allowed her to be somebody other than the Queen at the time. It allowed her to be just a normal person because the horse -- the love of the horse is just, it's in you, and she obviously rode all the time.

She was in the countryside in Balmoral and her family was there. It was a place where she could be herself, and that is truly what -- you know, so while we didn't know her so well by any means, what she was passionate about was racing and riding the horse and just to be outside with the animal. It allowed her to escape the day-to-day.

BROWN: Yes. It was clearly in her blood and I know what you're talking about. You love horses, it is in your blood. It never goes away and it can be an escape.

I want to ask you before we go, according to "The Independent" in Britain, the Queen is believed to own more than a hundred horses. She was estimated to have earned seven million pounds in prize money over the years.

Just yesterday, a horse bred by the Queen, West Newton won a race at Pimlico. I don't know, Headley or Price if you want to jump in on this. How competitive was she when it came to racing?

P. BELL: Every year she would host the Royal Meeting, the Royal Ascot, which is in June and there's some great video of her cheering her horses home, and every morning, every day to start the meeting, she would parade a mile down with horse-drawn carriage and then the Royal family would greet her and they would go racing.

And just a few years ago, she won a race and to watch the enthusiasm of it, it is just sheer joy because of just, you know all it takes to get to the finish line first, and she certainly knew how to do it.

BROWN: Well, you all have really just helped us better understand what the Queen was like, why she loved horses and just her enthusiasm for the sport of horse racing and her love of these beautiful precious animals, and what a treat it is for me to talk to you both.

A lot of nostalgia going on over here. I feel like also my Kentucky accent is maybe coming up a little bit talking to you both.

Price Bell, Headley Bell.

H. BELL: You know, you're welcome back anytime, Pamela, anytime. You come back and visit Mill Ridge.

BROWN: Thank you. And I will take you up on that for sure. Absolutely. Thank you both. Appreciate it.

Well, most NFL teams were in action today and their fans experienced a new type of security screening. We're going to show you how it works, up next.

You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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BROWN: Well, in the US, there are currently 24 States that allow you to carry a gun without a permit. Alabama makes it 25 on January 1st.

It is a growing concern for stadiums and arenas that can draw tens of thousands of fans for music or sporting events, and it is something the NFL is trying to address with new technology.

CNN's Nadia Romero has more from Atlanta.

NADIA ROMERO, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Pamela, the NFL season, well underway and we're here at Mercedes Benz Stadium, the home of the Atlanta Falcons, and when you talk about more people packing into stadiums, safety comes top of mind.

I want you to look behind me. This is Evolv Technology, these big blue screeners. The company says it's a mix of artificial intelligence and sensors that should be able to detect the difference between your cell phone and a weapon.

The goal is to find those weapons before they make their way inside of the stadium.

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GREG OVERSTREET, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF SECURITY, MERCEDES BENZ STADIUM: Evolv Technology detects weapons and it focuses on weapons. There is no doubt we have found some folks whether they intended to do harm or not, but they just forgot maybe that they had their weapon on them. They carry all the time. A lot of off duty law enforcement carry their weapon at all times.

And so you know, keeping those weapons out of the building is still important to us.

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ROMERO: So these monitors are what the staff can look at and when you see those red boxes, that could potentially be an area where the system found a weapon, so that person would be pulled out of a line and would undergo further screening.

Now, it's not just happening here at NFL Stadium. Safety is a big issue in schools, right? So some School Districts have invested in this technology as well all across the country -- Pamela.

BROWN: All right. Thanks, Nadia.

Well both on and off the court, Serena Williams is a superstar.

Up next, CNN looks at the personal and professional life of the legendary tennis champion.

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RENNAE STUBBS, FORMER TENNIS PLAYER: She started to really think that she could dominate every single tournament, every single Grand Slam and it was kind of like, "Boring. Serena is winning another Grand Slam again."

CARI CHAMPION, BROADCAST JOURNALIST: She was playing with this aggressiveness. This urgency. This, "I told you I'd be back in this," if you will.

CHANDA RUBIN, FORMER TENNIS PLAYER: Serena she had a forehand so hard, to this day, I still think about it. This is the hardest forehand that ever went by me and I couldn't even move for it. The intensity she brings. That force of will, that you know, deep desire that is in her gut that comes out in tight moments where she can raise her game, where she can raise the ante. That intensity is, you know, the best way I can describe it.

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BROWN: The CNN Flashdoc "Serena Williams: On Her Terms." Is next.

I am Pamela Brown. Have a great night.

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