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Queen's Coffin Rests Inside Buckingham Palace Overnight; Mourners Pay Respects As Queen Arrives At Buckingham Palace; Mourners Camp Out, Wait To See Queen Lying In State; UK Monarchy Support at All-Time Low According to Survey; As Typhoon Muifa Approaches, China Announces Red Alert; Shareholders Approve $44 Billion Acquisition Offer for Twitter; Twitter Accused of "Misleading the Public" by a Former Executive. Aired 2-3a ET

Aired September 14, 2022 - 02:00   ET




BECKY ANDERSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hello, and welcome to our viewers all around the world. I'm Becky Anderson in Buckingham Palace. In just a few hours, Queen Elizabeth's coffin will make the journey to Westminster Hall where thousands will pay their respects as she lies in state for the next four days. We are covering all of these latest developments for you.

ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: And I'm Rosemary Church here in Atlanta. I'll have details on all of our other top stories, including the expanding scope of the U.S. Justice Department's investigation into Donald Trump and the potential impact ahead of the midterm elections.

ANDERSON: Britain's longest serving monarch has made her final journey home and her coffin is now resting inside Buckingham Palace just behind me. Her arrival late on Tuesday was greeted with cheers and applause by what were large crowds gathered to pay tribute and to witness this moment in history. In the hours ahead, the queen's coffin will be taken by horse drawn carriage to Westminster Hall from here at Buckingham Palace where she will lie in state until her funeral on Monday.

And members of the royal family will be walking in that procession. That will include King Charles III who traveled to Northern Ireland on Tuesday. It was his first visit there of course becoming -- since becoming the new monarch. CNN correspondents are following the developments for you. Scott McLean is in London where people are already lining up to see the queen lying in state this Wednesday.

Nina dos Santos joining me here outside Buckingham Palace. And let's start with you, Nina. What do we know about this procession today and who will be part of it?

NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Well, that's going to take place starting as of 2:22 p.m. promptly when the queen's coffin will be loaded onto a gun carriage escorted by the Grenadier Guards and the king's tube artillery. And it'll start to move out of Buckingham Palace for a 38-minute long procession that will take in all sorts of famous London landmarks, they'll head over past them all.

Obviously will have Horse Guards parade that they will go through the arch their head down Whitehall which is where the seat of government is before of course ending up at Westminster Hall at 3:00 p.m. local time during which she -- her coffin will be raised onto a platform. And there it will lie in state. People will be able to go and visit it as of 5:00 p.m.

There'll be a short ceremony before that with members of the royal family. In terms of who will be taking place, this is going to be a very visible occasion. This is the first time that we're going to see senior members of the royal family proceeding from Buckingham Palace with of course the late monarch. And you can imagine all eyes will be fixated upon the new King Charles III. His two sons who will walk with Him.

The new Prince of Wales Prince William and also the Duke of Sussex, Prince Harry, Princess Anne, as you said is going to be inside that procession and other members, close members of the royal family including the queens of the children. A lot will be focused also on the motorcade that will be taking place - taking the queen -- Consort Queen, Consort Camilla, alongside the new Princess of Wales, also known as Kate Middleton to many of our viewers.

And the Duchess of Sussex as well will be traveling I believe with the Countess of Wessex. And this will be the first time we'll have an opportunity to see the Duchess of Sussex back in the fold with the Windsors as a broader family after of course that impromptu walk about to greet mourners alongside the new Prince and Princess of Wales a few days ago at the weekend.

ANDERSON: So this all happening from Buckingham Palace and viewers, this will be behind us here and as Nina rightly points out, this will take about 38 minutes and a very visible display by members of the royal family. Not least Prince William and Harry as you rightly pointed out, they carried out this impromptu walk about in Windsor on Saturday. They were at one point known as the Fab Four of course. William, Kate, Meghan and Harry.


We haven't seen Prince Harry with the Windsors since the jubilee celebrations. He's in St. Paul's Cathedral celebration. And it's been some time since we have seen Meghan with the family.

DOS SANTOS: Yes. And I think this is going to be an opportunity for at least from a visibility point of view, highlighting that reproachment. This is a moment of grief and the family is united in grief after of course, the difficult times that they've faced internally as a family after the Duke of Sussex and Duchess of Sussex decided to move with their family over to the United States and grant as we know a number of rather controversial interviews since then. But this isn't the moment for that, is it? It's the moment to try and band together as a family. It's been widely reported that is the queen's coffin rests here at Buckingham Palace as we speak in the ballroom, that overnight, even the Duke and Duchess of Sussex were part of that wider group of family who were there to greet the queen to give her that last embrace in Buckingham Palace, a place where obviously she spent so long doing her 70-year reign.

Remember, she's got many, many grandchildren, many, many children survived by four children, eight grandchildren, children 12 great grandchildren, of which two obviously, are members of the Sussex family. Becky.

ANDERSON: Nina Dos Santos is with me here outside Buckingham Palace. And the queen's coffin will lie in state at Westminster Hall for the next four days before her funeral on Monday. There will be many, many thousands of people who will queue over the next four days to get a chance to pay their respects. Scott McLean is among some of those who have got into the queue early. Scott, what are people telling you?

SCOTT MCLEAN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Becky. Yes. We're still about 10 hours away from the public being allowed to actually view the coffin as the queen lies in state. And, you know, some of the people here say they want to witness history and be part of history. And this is undoubtedly a huge moment in British history. Other people are monarchists and, you know, they go to all of the birthdays and funerals and weddings and jubilees.

And they wouldn't miss this for the world. But the vast majority of people that you talk to here, are simply here to pay their respects for a woman that they very deeply admire. And they want to say thank you for her duty and her service. And you know, one man who came here from Doncaster overnight, or arrived last night that I spoke to you last hour maybe summed it up best when he said, look, when you consider all of the decades of service that she's given this country, the least that I can do is, you know, stand outside in the rain for 20 hours to pay my respects.

And that's sort of the attitude you get from a lot of the folks here. So, if you take a look down this way, I won't be able to show you the end of the line, but it's a few 100 yards back and it's rapidly expanding as people arrive this morning. Obviously, not a whole lot of people wanting to stay the morning. This -- these are the Houses of Parliament, Westminster Hall is there, that is where the body will lie in state.

And so, everyone in line here from this point, has actually stayed here overnight. And part of the difficulty is that the government has asked people, told people that they won't be allowed to bring in large bags. And so yes, there are a few tents. But by and large, most people have opted to just bring smaller items, maybe a lawn chair because they know that they won't be able to actually bring these items in.

The queue is -- well, if you look at the map, it stretches all the way across central London for some four miles and that's not surprising considering that 33,000 people filed past the coffin of the queen when it was in Scotland for a much shorter period of time. 200,000 people saw the queen mother when she was lying in state back in 2002. And so obviously for Queen Elizabeth II they are expecting many, many more people.

So if you look up here in this brown tent here, this is the very front of the line and the women who are there actually just spent their second night overnight here hoping to be the very first ones to actually file past the casket. I just want to introduce you to these -- to Steven and Monica. I spoke to them yesterday. And I just wonder how are you guys doing a day later? How was the night?

STEVEN WINDSOR, QUEUED TO PAY RESPECTS: Absolutely fabulous. I didn't sleep at all and I feel fresh as a daisy.

MCLEAN: And Monica?

MONICA FAZAR, QUEUED TO PAY RESPECTS: I have slept a few hours. And we have such a wonderful time. We didn't even think that it was a long wait.

WINDSOR: Not at all. It's been -- it's gone very quickly since yesterday. After 8:00 when we arrived until now is the time of just flown by.

MCLEAN: This seems like kind of maybe a bit of a national bonding experience with all of the people in line.


WINDSOR: With the guys here, I think the first 10 people that will, from the fourth person up to the 10th person. We had a lovely time.

FAZAR: And we have exchanged phone numbers and we are going to see each other. We said we are going to have a reunion. And I love the experience because this will never happen again. And we were sharing food. I'm not even eating my pancake and chocolates and giving me drinks and people at night were giving us pizza and coffee and drinks. And it's amazing.

WINDSOR: I think it was the Thames newspaper that actually provided that for us.

MCLEAN: Wow. And you guys are still in remarkable spirits.

FAZAR: According to Elton John, we're still standing.

MCLEAN: You are still standing.


MCLEAN: Ten more hours to go. Thank you so much for talking to us guys. So, I mean, Becky, again, this just gives you an idea of the dedication of the people who are here again, you know, standing outside for a night in the rain doesn't seem like that much of a sacrifice considering the sacrifice of the monarch that they're here to honor. ANDERSON: Many thanks, Scott. Scott McLean on the south bank of the Thames. Nina dos Santos here with me outside Buckingham Palace. And we will have a lot more from London later this hour. I want to first bring in Rosemary Church with some of our other news at CNN Center in Atlanta. Rosemary?

CHURCH: Thank you for that. And a senior aide to Ukraine's president says a major counter offensive against Russia is slowing but not stopping. This as troops fight to retake control of the city of Lyman in the Donetsk region. The liberation of Lyman could set up a new push into the wider Donbas. The Ukrainians say there are still pockets of fighting and the Russians are looting as they pull further back.

But gear adrift is a gift and the Ukrainians are also seizing abandoned Russian weapons, vehicles and ammo. Russia still holds huge chunks of Ukrainian territory and the collapse of Kremlin forces in the east doesn't mean they're gone for good. But the U.S. says they're not sticking around. Here was the Pentagon Press Secretary on Tuesday.


BRIG. GEN. PAT RYDER, PENTAGON PRESS SECRETARY: We've seen a number of Russian forces, especially in the northeast, in the Kharkiv region cross over the border back into Russia is they've retreated from the Ukrainian counteroffensive.


CHURCH: CNN's Clare Sebastian is tracking events in Ukraine from her vantage point there in London. And she joins us now live. Good morning to you, Clare. So, what more are you learning about Ukraine's counter offensive and of course efforts to take back the city of Lyman?

CLARE SEBASTIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Rosemary. The Ukrainian head of the Luhansk regional military administration says that there is still Russian resistance, there is still fighting in that key city of Lyman. He says that that is one of the areas that Russian forces are still there. He also says that he thinks that trying to build a new defensive line further to the north east. Obviously, we can't verify the locations.

But if that is confirmed, it would suggest that Russia has left behind quite a large portion of the Luhansk region that it obviously claimed victory over at the beginning of July. So that is significant. Lyman he says he says would be the beginning really of Ukrainian forces efforts to retake the whole region of Luhansk. So this would really be a sort of reversal for Russia, as we see this counter offensive while we understand that it's slowing, it does continue.

And all of this is sort of reinforcing those questions around how exactly Ukraine has pulled this off. How has it managed to take back so much territory in such a short time. The military adviser to President Zelenskyy spoke to Becky Anderson on Tuesday and explained a little bit about how they did it.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) OLEKSIY ARESTOVYCH, MILITARY ADVISER TO UKRAINE'S PRESIDENT: We prepare carefully for this. And it was taken about a month of planning. And we use some weeks, places in Russia, Russian defense. We reconnaissance in accuracy and we use our allies in which mean the first of the United States Army, formation for this and the use of Western weapon.


SEBASTIAN: So it seems like not only Western weapons, but Western intelligence was critical in this counteroffensive, Rosemary, as for what's next. He says they're continuing to fight in the Kherson region to the south as well as in the Luhanks region in the Donbas in the northeast. And he suggested that there might even be a third front that they could try to open up but he would not say where that would be. He said that was protected military information.

CHURCH: All right. Many thanks to our Clare Sebastian joining us live from London.


And still to come this hour. Wall Street suffers its worst day since the height of the pandemic. We will tell you about the inflation report that sparked to the selloff. Plus, U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham unveils his plan for a nationwide ban on abortions. Why it's dividing the Republican Party. Back in just a moment.


CHURCH: The closing bell couldn't come soon enough for most investors on Wall Street. A disappointing inflation report pushed U.S. financial markets to their worst day since June of 2020. The Dow lost more than 1200 points close to four percent. The NASDAQ fell five percent and the S&P 500 lost four percent. So, let's bring in CNN's Eleni Giokos who's following world financial markets for us from Dubai.

Good to see you, Eleni. What a dismal day on Wall Street. So, how markets elsewhere looking this hour and what are the futures revealing about what might be ahead?

ELENI GIOKOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, Rosemary, you hit the nail on the head. I think market participants couldn't wait for the markets in the United States to close.


It was a brutal sell off. I mean read across the board. Some of the big stocks taking huge hits. And of course, that performance in the United States, a hand over to Asia. Let's take a look at what the Asian markets are doing. You've got the Hang Seng, you've got the Nikkei coming under huge pressure down over 2-1/1 percent. You had the Japanese yen against the dollar hitting the lowest level that we've seen in 1998.

The KOPSI Australian markets, everyone is in the red right now. The big question is, why? Inflation, the ugly head of inflation in the United States and how to temper that. The August number came through. There was an expectation that it was going to fall by naught point-one percent. It in fact, rose by naught point-one percent. Gas prices are coming down slightly. But where you're seeing the rise is food, rentals, medicine across the board.

So, it's more pervasive. It's broad based. And of course, when we say higher oil prices, it actually feeds through into so many industries, Rosemary, and it takes a long time to come through, despite the fact that you've seen the Federal Reserve increasing rates by naught point- seven-five percent. Three consecutive times. We've got a Federal Reserve meeting that we're expecting, again, another rate hike.

The question is, when is that going to help temper inflation? What is that going to mean for the interest rate cycle? Is that going to mean a hard landing down the line? The market is telling us a very important story. There's been a rewriting of risk at this point in time. And that's why you've seen a big sell off where market participants are clocking in profits and saying, well, what is the real risk of inflation?

What is that going to mean for the interest rate hiking cycle? And how is that going to impact earnings down the line? Dow futures pointing slightly in the red right now. This is going to be important. Is this a prolonged sell off? That is going to last a few days, a few weeks? Is this going to send us into a bear market? These are the conversations that are being had right now among the investor community as they take a look at the real risk of inflation.

And importantly, the messaging, Rosemary, out of the Federal Reserve next week is going to be vital. Naught point-seven-five percent is what is anticipated for a rate hike. Some even saying that could increase 100 basis points. But it's all going to be about bringing down inflation which seems to not be working right now.

CHURCH: Yes, exactly. Eleni Giokos is joining us live from Dubai. Thanks for that. Even though it's all very depressing right now. Well, primary season has come to an end in the U.S. with voters casting ballots in Delaware, New Hampshire and Rhode Island. One of the key races we're watching is the Republican Senate primary in New Hampshire. Now retired Army General Don Bolduc is locked in a tight race with state senate president Chuck Morse.

The winner will take on incumbent Democrat Maggie Hassan in November. In New Hampshire's first congressional district, CNN projects that Karoline Leavitt will win the Republican primary to take on incumbent Democrat Chris Pappas. Leavitt says the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump and that Joe Biden should be impeached.

Well, the U.S. Justice Department is now examining nearly every aspect of Donald Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. That is according to numerous sources and copies of subpoenas obtained by CNN, they show prosecutors are interested in a plot by Team Trump to install fake electors, efforts to push baseless election fraud claims and where the money came from to support these schemes.

Joining me now, Ron Brownstein is a CNN senior political analyst and a senior editor at The Atlantic. Always a pleasure to have you with us.

RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Hi, Rosemary, good to be with you.

CHURCH: So a federal judge has just unsealed new information from the Mar-a-Lago affidavit that triggered the seizure of classified documents of Donald Trump's home, revealing links to human intelligence. And this comes as prosecutors expand their January 6 probe issuing 30-plus subpoenas to keep people within Trump's orbit representing a clear shift in focus here. Where do you see this going so close to the midterms?

BROWNSTEIN: Yes. Extraordinary amount of legal challenge for the former president. I don't think that this Justice Department under Merrick Garland is going to pursue an indictment. This close to a midterm election but the period after the midterm, when you look at the two Justice Department investigations, pretty incredible to have one, much less to have a foreign president plus what's going on in Georgia and Fulton County and the work of the grand jury there.

I think you'd have to say the odds are looking very strong that Donald Trump is going to be indicted by a grand jury somewhere in either the very end of 2022 or the early part of 2023. And the question at that point will be whether that shakes at all his hold on the Republican Party and conversely, whether it even makes it more likely to announce for president in 2024. A very difficult situation for the party and obviously for him as well.


CHURCH: Right. And a new inflation report brought bad news to the Biden administration Tuesday. How big a blow is this for the president, do you think? And of course, his efforts to talk up his accomplishments and what impact could it have on his party's midterm election prospects do you think?

BROWNSTEIN: Yes. I think it's a significant blow in two respects. One, because the Biden administration really wanted to have the narrative that inflation had peaked and it was moving in the right direction. And in fact, many Americans feel an improvement at the gas pump. But the persistence of high grocery prices and high housing prices is very clearly a challenge for the Biden administration and for all Democrats.

Voters who say that inflation is their top concern are picking Republicans by two or three to one in polling for the House of Representatives. The other reason this is a challenge, Rosemary is because the Democrats have had considerable success at shifting voter focus away from inflation toward issues like abortion, gun safety, climate, and all of the legal challenges and ethical issues surrounding Donald Trump.

And I think this pushes inflation back into the headlines. And it also is a reminder that it is the daily reality that so many Americans are still dealing with, and is likely to remain a very large factor in November. CHURCH: Yes. I wanted to talk to you about that because some Republicans, they're still pushing hard for a nationwide abortion ban, despite public sentiment showing clearly, that's not what people want. Is the GOP out of touch on this issue? And could they perhaps pay dearly for this or as you say, is high inflation destined to overshadow everything in anything?

BROWNSTEIN: No, I don't think it's destined over. I mean, you have the entire election, encapsulated in about three hours on Tuesday morning in the U.S. You had the announcement come out from the government that inflation was higher than expected. You saw the stock market tumble as a result. All reflecting the great tailwinds that Republicans have going for them in November.

And then a few hours later, you had Senator Lindsey Graham announced that he was introducing a national 15-week abortion ban that he said he guaranteed that it would get a vote on the floor in the Senate and the House if Republicans take over Congress in November. And instantly you saw the biggest tailwind the Democrats have in this election, which is that a clear majority of Americans oppose overturning Roe v. Wade much less imposing a national ban on abortion.

I think every Democratic Senate candidate can now say that whatever their Republican opponent says, whether they say they're for a national ban or not creating a Republican majority in the Senate guarantees there will be a vote on a national ban on abortion. And I'm not sure how many voters want to roll the dice on how that would turn out.

CHURCH: Ron Brownstein, great to get your analysis as always. Appreciate it.

BROWNSTEIN: Thank you.

CHURCH: And still to come. More details of Queen Elizabeth's final journey as mourners line up hours in advance to pay respects to their longest-reigning monarch.



ANDERSON: Queen Elizabeth's coffin will be taken from Buckingham Palace on a gun carriage in a military procession to Westminster Hall in the coming hours. It is Wednesday here -- Wednesday morning.

There, the U.K.'s longest reigning monarch will lie in state until her funeral on Monday. Well, lying-in state is a formal occasion, an opportunity for people to pay their respects. In the U.K., it's given to the sovereign as head of state, current or past consorts, and more rarely major public figure, such as the queen's first prime minister, Winston Churchill.

Also, her grandfather, King George V, her father George VI, and 20 years ago her mother. 750,000 mourners are expected to pay their respects to the queen as Westminster Hall. It will be open to the public, 24 hours a day, until Monday, and as many as 10,000 police officers will be on hand, along with hundreds of military personnel in one of the biggest security operations the country has ever seen.

Well, CNN's Nada Bashir is outside the houses of parliament in London and she joins us now. That possession from here, with the casket to Westminster Hall will happen this afternoon, London time. It'll take about 40 minutes with King Charles III, his two sons, and other members of the royal family walking behind that casket. When it arrives at Westminster Hall, this is, Nada, the opportunity for tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of members of the British public to pay their respects.

NADA BASHIR, CNN REPORTER: Absolutely, Becky. This is a historic moment of ceremony. Many people already gathering, lining up through the streets of Westminster for their chance to pay their respects to the queen. There's already a somber mood around Westminster, around London.

We saw the queen's coffin arriving at Buckingham Palace last night, hundreds of people, if not thousands, waiting in the rain for their chance to see the queen's coffin passing by to pay their respects. And of course, that figure is set to be dwarfed today by the number of people.


We are expecting to be lining the streets of Westminster and across the river from behind me, waiting for their chance to pay their respects. And I can tell you already, many of the streets around this area have been closed. There is a heavy security presence because, of course, this is a large security operation as well. But many people will be gathering for their chance to pay their respects for the queen.

But also, as you mentioned there, for their chance to catch a glimpse of their new monarch, King Charles III, who will be following the queen's coffin on foot as it makes its way through the procession, alongside his son, William the Prince of Wales, and Harry the Duke of Sussex.

ANDERSON: Built in 1097 by the son of William, The Conqueror, Westminster Hall has hosted trials of Charles I, and Guy Fawkes (ph), of course. Henry VIII's coronation banquet, and even Tudor tennis matches, as I am told. It has a storied history. It is the hall that the queen's body will lie in for the next four days. Nada, thank you.

Well, away from the pomp and pageantry of this week's events, some have questioned whether the British monarchy should go on. And there is a clear generational divide research from my next guest, at least, shows that only 14 percent of people aged 18 to 34 felt the monarchy is, "Very important". While for those ages 55 and older, 44 percent of them say, it is very important to have a monarchy.

But over the last decade, as you can see there, that feeling has dropped across the board. The survey found that King Charles III is inheriting a thrown at a time when public support has, in some instances at least, been on the wane. John Curtice is professor of politics at University of Strathclyde and a senior research fellow at the National Centre for Social Research. He joins me now from Glasgow.

It's good to have, you sir. And I want to be quite clear here. So, I want to talk about your research. It has been done at a time though when -- I think, it is fair to say that republicanism is somewhat redundant, at least in the U.K., as a political issue. One of the successes of Queen Elizabeth II has been to sustain the interest and support in the monarchy here.

Your findings found, "The successes and problems of the royal family affect how much people value the institution". And you are making the point that King Charles will have some work to do to ensure that he continues the support for the institution. Just talk us through some of what you found.

JOHN CURTICE, PROFESSOR OF POLITICS, UNIVERSITY OF STRATHCLYDE AND SENIOR RESEARCH FELLOW, NATIONAL CENTRE FOR SOCIAL RESEARCH: Well, essentially what we're saying is that although in many respects, there is clear evidence of a certain solidity and stability to support for the monarchy. The level of support for the monarchy has varied in response to events, and therefore it probably makes more sense to regarded it as a contingent royalty rather than an unquestioning one. And it is one therefore that is dependent on the monarchy continuing to be regarded as being effective.

To give you some idea of this, let me actually first ask this question. We first ask this question back in the mid-1980s when British Social Attitudes first started. At that point, 85 percent of people said, it's very all quite important for Britain to have a monarchy. Indeed, so many people gave that answer that it was decided it wasn't worth asking the question on the survey.

After that, of course, in the early 1990s, particularly 1992, we had what the queen referred to as annus horribilis when three of her children either separate or divorced, including the separation of Diana, Princess of Wales, and of then Prince of Wales. The fire at Windsor Castle, the monarchy came under very substantial public criticism.

So, when we went back into the public domain, we only had around two- thirds of people say that it was very or quite important to have a monarchy. And that figure has been relatively stable since it's gone up and gone down. It went up very clearly at around the time of the queen's visit to both the Republic of Ireland and North Ireland, the shaking of Martin McGuinness's hand, something that was remembered yesterday with the King Charles's visit to Northern Ireland.

But more recently, again, I believe what you were coming to in your introduction, support for the monarchy has actually gone down to an all-time low. It's now around 55 percent says it's very or quite important.


And we've got, for the first time, around 20 percent either that it isn't important at all or, frankly, we should abolish the monarchy. And of course, there's been some rocky times for the monarchy that has one, first of all, the split between Harry and Meghan and the rest of the royal family. And two, of course, Prince Andrew having to settle out of court a rape allegation.

So, it launched (ph) as though, again, more recently again when the royal families be getting bad publicity but that's had some impact on the support of the institution.

ANDERSON: Research like this is important as the new King Charles III works out how he will conduct himself as the new monarch and what he needs to do to ensure the longevity and interest in the monarchy going forward. New research shows a generational divide which I don't think anybody would be particularly surprised by, but that generational -- that sort of research is important. How do you use that to address the issues going forward?

CURTICE: Well, let me go back for -- to what you said we must. What we have not found is a generational divide. It is not the case that we're looking at a process whereby support for the monarchy is gradually in decline because as older people passed on to a better place, pro-monarchies being replaced by younger people (INAUDIBLE) on the monarchy. That's not what's been happening.

What we find is there's a very clear age or life cycle difference. That is that as people get older, and this has been true throughout the last 20 years, as people have got older, they've become more supportive of the monarchy. And perhaps, indeed one of the strengths of the monarchy many is -- many people have remarked it in recent days is it's been one point of continuity and constancy in a world that, perhaps, is proving to be rather changing or rather difficult.

And that's something is perhaps that as people have got older, they've come to appreciate. So, at the moment, if history repeats itself, today's younger people who, yes, are not keen on the monarchy, by the time they get into their 40s and 50s and 60s may well be as keen on the monarchy as everybody else. So, to that extent, at least, we should dexaggerate (ph) Charles' problems.

In the end -- I mean, part of astute is what Charles has to do has been seen in the last days. One thing, of course, that we know is that support for the monarchy is weaker in Scotland. That it is in England and that's tied up with peoples' attitude towards whether or not Scotland should become an independent country or not. And of course, the monarchy has long been relatively controversial in Northern Ireland, albeit, it did a lot of work to repair that position a few years ago.

And we've seen this, the distinctive -- one distinctive feature of what Charles has done in recent days, he was in Scotland on Monday, in Northern Ireland yesterday, and he's going to Wales towards the end of this week. It's a very clear implicit acknowledgment here. But the crown needs to maintain its support amongst the more peripheral parts of the United Kingdom where support is lower.

The second thing we've seen is Charles being very approachable to crowds, driving into crowds, whit his -- something you wouldn't have seen from his mother. But they've then -- they've already seen some evidence that perhaps Charles has been wanting to fully modernize the monarchy. And that, probably, is almost undoubtedly a path that he will need to go.

ANDERSON: Right. John, good to have your perspective here on CNN. John Curtice joining us from Glasgow. Thank you. We're going to take a very short break. Back after this.



CHURCH: Well, China has issued its first typhoon red alert this year with the powerful storm expected to make landfall just south of Shanghai in the coming hours. Wind gusts are near 200 kilometers per hour, hundreds of flights are canceled, and ships in the area have been ordered to return to port with crews advised to take shelter.

Our meteorologist Pedram Javaheri joins us now with more. So, Pedram, a massive storm, what are you watching out for and what are you seeing in the forecast?

PEDRAM JAVAHERI, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Yes, you know, Rosemary, this area is so densely populated when you're looking at a storm of this magnitude, equivalent to a category two hurricane. Certainly, it's going to have a lot of impact to this region. And notice Taiwan, parts of that area. 300 plus millimeters, which is about a foot of rainfall in the past couple of days.

And then look off towards the Western Pacific and we've got a trio of tropical systems lined up. So, activity certainly ramping up across this region. But here's Typhoon Muifa, again, winds at about 160 kilometers per hour, that's to the equivalent to a category two hurricane. It is pushing in just south of Shanghai. This is an area around Zhejiang province where we this, certainly, will make landfall within the next couple of hours.

The impacts already being felt even as far north of Shanghai. And then you'll notice the track of the storm system takes the very much scenic route across this region. And what I mean by that is, kind of, impacting as many people as possible along the Eastern Seaboard there of China. And, certainly, going to impact, we think, as many as 120 plus million that reside across this region.

So, an incredible path here for a storm system that sits at a category three (INAUDIBLE). We do believe it will weaken here within the next few hours to CAT 1 and then beyond that until tropical storm. But rainfall amounts just light up like a Christmas tree here with 150, maybe 200 millimeters in some areas, 300 millimeters. So, again, pushing up closely to a foot of rainfall in a very urbanized environment. So, flooding is going to be a major concern as the system moves across this landscape.

Beyond this, there is another system is on approach. This particular one is poised to potentially get up to category three equivalent. And the impacts of this looked to be around Okinawa, points of Ryukyu Islands, southern area of South Korea, certainly Southern Japan as well.


So, this is what we're following here in the next couple of days, Rosemary, with impacts as far as gusty winds, storm surge threat, and of course, significant rainfall in an area that could see a lot of flooding in the coming days.

CHURCH: Unbelievable. Thanks for watching so closely those weather. Appreciate it. Our Pedram Javaheri.

And still to come, a former Twitter executive turned whistleblower heads to Capitol Hill with damning allegations of sub-par security standards at the social media giant. We'll take a look.


CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. While Elon Musk fights tooth and nail to back out of his deal to buy Twitter, the company shareholders are holding him to it. Voting Tuesday in favor of his proposed $44 billion takeover bid.


The Tesla CEO has been trying since July to scrap the deal, accusing Twitter of not being truthful about the number of fake accounts on its platform. Twitter then sued Musk, arguing that he simply has buyer's remorse and can't just walk away from their agreement. The case is set to go to trial next month.

Well, meantime, a former Twitter executive turned whistleblower testified before a U.S. Senate committee on Tuesday. Peiter Zatko, who was the company's top security officer made allegations of lies, security lapses, and foreign spies on the social media company's payroll.

He also alleged that a Twitter employee could take over the accounts of every senator in the room. And that the company doesn't fully understand all of the user data it collects, why they got it, and where it's stored. Twitter has said Zatko's allegations are inconsistent and inaccurate.

Well, thank you so much for joining us this hour. I'm Rosemary Church. I'll be back with more news and more live coverage from our Becky Henderson at Buckingham Palace in just a few minutes. Do stay with us.