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Manhunt Underway After Five Killed, Including An Eight-Year- Old, In Texas Home; First U.S. Government Organized Convoy Reaches Port Sudan; NYC Mayor Calls On FEMA To Stop Funding Cities That Are Transporting Migrants To New York; Disney Sues Florida Gov. DeSantis, Claiming "Government Retaliation"; Speaker McCarthy & Nikki Haley Criticize DeSantis' War On Disney; DeSantis Makes Overseas Trip In Bid To Strengthen Foreign Credentials; Never-Before-Seen Photos Of White House During Bin Laden Operation; Eli Lilly: Injectable Drug Tirzepatide Can Treat Obesity. Aired 1-2p ET

Aired April 29, 2023 - 13:00   ET

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IRETA REEVES, MOTHER: UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's really done a great guy this year. He's come a long way. He's surprised us with great grades and with his performances at school with friends, with peers. And to do something like this just fills my heart. It makes my heart skip a beat.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Reflecting on how he stopped the bus, Dylan remains humble, as the entire community acknowledges this was no small act of bravery.

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN HOST: A pretty big little hero. Our thanks to WXYZ for that.

All right. Hello again, everyone. Thank you so much for joining me this Saturday. I'm Fredricka Whitfield. And we begin with this breaking news on the manhunt underway right now. Police in Cleveland, Texas are looking for a suspect connected to the shooting deaths of five people including an eight-year-old. At least three others were wounded in the attack. And now the search is on for the suspect who took off before police arrived on the scene.

CNN's Ryan Young is following all of this for us. So, what more are we learning about the suspect? Whereabouts?

RYAN YOUNG, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (on camera): Look, troubling details on this. We've been following this for hours. We do have an update. We've been given a name at this point. Francisco Oropeza is the name that the sheriff is looking for at this point. Talking about the five people who have been shot and killed. You see the man's image up on the screen. They are still actively looking for him.

This all started with a 9/11 call over like a noise disturbance. Apparently, he was on his porch firing a weapon. Neighbors asked him to stop shooting. He then at some point, according to the sheriff's department went inside a home. They have ring camera footage of this and started shooting people execution style. In fact, take a listen to the sheriff early on in this investigation.

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SHERIFF GREG CAPERS, SAN JACINTO COUNTY, TEXAS: When they got here, they found four people deceased inside of the residence. And there was an eight-year-old that had been shot. Everybody that was shot was shot from the neck up almost execution style. We know him by name, date of birth. We've got his Mexican Consulate card. Plus, there was a ring doorbell on the victim's house. We actually captured him coming up to the front door with the weapon.

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YOUNG: Yes. This is so tough to think about all the details on this one. They've talked to his wife. Again, we might as well show that image one more time. They're looking for Francisco Oropeza. That image being put out in the last hour or so. Of course, we continue to follow this story. But then when you think about children, there were two women who were actually shielding other children in that house.

Ten people inside that home, active manhunt still going on at this point. So many questions, but a disturbance call that leads to someone going next door and almost doing an execution style just baffles your mind.

WHITFIELD: Yes. It really is hard to understand all of the, you know, sequence of events here. All right. Keep us posted as you learn more information. Thanks so much, Ryan Young. All right. I want to bring in now CNN National Security Analyst Juliette Kayyem. Juliette, so now we just heard from Ryan, there's a photo, a name of the suspect. What does that tell you about how close they are to a suspect or how much help they need from the public?

JULIETTE KAYYEM, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Well, they need help from the public. If anyone sees him a car or car that he might be associated with that his name is known, he's -- in the scheme of things he can't get very far. This will probably be settled relatively quickly, unless he has taken his own life, which sometimes happens in these cases. But this is a manhunt that is in a limited area.

The sequence of events suggests that he didn't plan for this. And therefore, he may not have gas in his car. He'll have to stop somewhere. It's not like he sort of prepared for an exit. And so, I suspect that authorities are getting his name out there because he has other family and friends who may know his whereabouts and he may be trying to contact them.

WHITFIELD: What are the assets likely law enforcement will be using and its ongoing search for him?

KAYYEM: Well, he's a -- he's a Mexican national. We don't know -- we know what kind of gun was used. We don't know the status if it was lawfully purchased. So, it's going to be a combination of local state. And then of course, the federal assets in particular the Border Patrol people will remember. The Border Patrol's presence in in Uvalde, not in terms of the physical presence that's there and ensuring that he is not able to cross the border.

However far or close it is. But I -- once again, I suspect that this will be resolved relatively quickly, just given the manpower and womanpower that's being put on it.

WHITFIELD: You heard Ryan describing what police described as an execution-style killing. So, you know, they have released the photograph, a name. They talk to us about you know, how they're going to allay fears of, you know, the community as they're asking for the public's assistance in that, you know, if you see this person than to call but at the same time I imagine people are just so shaken up and fearful right now.

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KAYYEM: Yes, yes. I mean, you know, I was thinking this morning when I heard the news like the A.R.-15 did exactly as it's built, right? I mean, execution style. We talked about the kids who survived anyone who can put themselves in those kids shoes that they survived, but their life is -- it will not be the same. You think about the two woman who tried to shield them in their -- in their last seconds.

So, it is terrifying, obviously, in terms of what other guns he has. What condition was he in at the moment of the shooting. All of those will be relevant. But also, of course, once again, we're having a discussion about a killing that happened so quickly, with no time. And it's just a slaughter. I mean, execution, it's a slaughter. And I think that, you know, people always get frustrated, because, you know, what are we going to do?

I mean, part of what we do here and part of what's necessary to do is to just not look away, right? I mean, is that we are, you know, we have to account for this and be witness to it. Because this is the kind of savagery that that this weapon does. Whether we can find a particular reason or explanation or drug abuse or alcohol or mental state, whatever it is, this is the result of it given the kind of weapon that's being used.

Those children and those -- and those women I just, you know, these -- I'm used to these and sometimes you don't get used to them, which I guess is good.

WHITFIELD: Yes, terrible. All right. Juliette Kayyem, thank you so much.

KAYYEM: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: All right. And this, now just in to CNN. The first U.S.-led effort to evacuate private American citizens from Sudan. And the conflict there has just been completed. For more on this, let's bring in CNN's Oren Liebermann at the Pentagon. So, Oren, what can you tell us about this evacuation? Because for a very long time, and we heard her from, you know, various authorities within the Biden administration that there would not be any efforts to get American private citizens out of Sudan. So, obviously, there was something underway.

OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (on camera): Very much so and we'll get to how this played out over the last couple of days in a moment. This was a convoy from the capital of Khartoum hours long convoy over hundreds of miles to get them from Khartoum, the capital of Sudan, over to Port Sudan where there are U.S. Navy ships and other ships waiting to assist from there.

The State Department says from there, it'll take these American citizens, locally employed staff and others and take them to Jeddah in Saudi Arabia where there are more American personnel there to help them with travel on to other destinations. All of this happens, as you rightly point out, as we heard increasing anger from U.S. citizens in Sudan about what they felt was a lack of help from the U.S. government and from the State Department on either getting out of the country or finding other forms of assistance.

And this as we watched countries from all over the world send in their aircraft, send in their convoys to get their own citizens out and to help U.S. citizens get out. Crucially, the State Department didn't say how many buses or other vehicles on this convoy they had sent in or how many Americans had been evacuated. They only say that through this effort and the other efforts with partner countries, partner aircraft, partner convoys, they have to this point evacuated hundreds of U.S. citizens.

Remember, it was last weekend where we saw military helicopters go in to Khartoum and evacuate U.S. embassy staff, family members and several others, less than 100. The U.S. government had said but since then they have insisted it was too dangerous to send in other military personnel or other assets to evacuate American citizens. So, we see this convoy carried out. Defense Department says they had assets watching overhead, surveillance assets and we'll have Navy ships able to help import Sudan.

So, how did this play out over the last several days? On Thursday, several American citizens had gotten e-mails that said the U.S. government is planning to assist U.S. nationals and immediate family members with valid U.S. travelled documents in the coming days perhaps as early as tomorrow. Then on Friday, those who had registered and were looking to leave got information.

CNN has learned telling them to prepare food, water, travel essentials, limited to one travel bag only. They were then instructed to meet at a golf course, where they were led out through on this convoy to Port Sudan. Again, an hours long journey over hundreds of miles to get them safely to Port Sudan where they'll get help from there.

Meanwhile, the state department says for those who were not on this convoy, but are still looking for help, get in touch with the State Department as quickly as possible. Fredricka, that seems to suggest there may be more convoys, more efforts to try to get out more American citizens if possible.

WHITFIELD: Wow. Incredible effort and still ongoing. All right. Oren Liebermann, thank you so much.

All right. In Ukraine, Russia unleashes another deadly attack. This time at least 25 people are killed including children. The latest on the search and rescue efforts. We're live in Ukraine next. Plus, New York Mayor Eric Adams has a request for FEMA withhold funding from cities, sending asylum seekers to his city. Details straight ahead.

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WHITFIELD: In Ukraine, officials have ended the search for survivors after a Russian missile attack hit an apartment building in the central town of Oman. At least 25 people were killed including six children, and it's believed to be the deadliest strike on civilians since January. Military commanders say Ukraine's forces were able to shoot down 21 of the 23 missiles fired in the attack but Ukraine's President Zelenskyy said the attacks also highlighted the need for more modern military aircraft.

Cedric Leighton is a CNN military analyst and a retired U.S. Air Force Colonel. Colonel, Good to see you. So, what do you make of the timing of this deadly Russian assault on civilian targets?

CEDRIC LEIGHTON, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: Well, Ferd, I think it's a really an indication that the Russian tsar. It's trying to soften up the area and warn the means in essence that if they start, there much talked about spring counter offensive that the Russians will respond by doing things like this which basically involves the targeting of civilian targets, especially civilian infrastructure and civilian living areas.

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So, this is, you know, definitely a warning from the Russians that they are not going to be backing down anytime soon.

WHITFIELD: So, Ukraine said it was able to shoot down 21 of the 23 missiles fired in the attack. Is that level of air defense sustainable going forward? I mean, at least that number is fairly high. But can they keep doing that?

LEIGHTON: Yes, that's a great question. So, it really depends on how quickly the West can resupply Ukraine with the air defense assets that it needs. So, that means not only the weapon systems themselves, such as the Patriot missile defense batteries, but also be able to, you know, really keep the ammunition flow going. So, it's a logistical question more than anything else at this point.

And of course, behind that is the political question. So, if there becomes a, you know, really a need for West to continue to provide these kinds of weapons systems to the Ukrainians, it can be sustained. But the willingness has to be there and supply lines have to be uninterrupted at this point.

WHITFIELD: Ukraine has indicated it is ready to launch its counter offensive against Russia. But it's not saying when. What will it weigh? What will help make the determination as to when it's a go?

LEIGHTON: There are going to be a lot of factors for that play into that. Among them, the weather is going to be one major one. I write out Ukraine is just getting over some rainy periods in certain parts, especially in the East and in the Southeast. That has to be part of the equation. It's also going to depend on how quickly everything can be brought to the front. The Ukrainians are going to try to keep a lot of what they have kind of under wraps until that last very moment tactically that they will be fit in order to move forward.

But the Ukrainians will be looking for weak spots in the Russian defensive line. The Russians have had about six months to get ready for this. And they've certainly put up a lot of defensive barriers, a lot of anti-tank weapons and barriers. So, it's going to be pretty tough going. It won't be the surprise that we saw in the northeast, back in this -- in this past summer. So, this is going to be a significant change, I think, to the dynamic of the war, but it's still possible for the Ukrainians to do this.

WHITFIELD: All right. I want to turn to a Syria now where a U.S. defense officials say Russian pilots have tried to provoke U.S. fighter jets into dogfights and this happened at least twice this month. Is this Russia trying to trigger an international incident?

LEIGHTON: Yes. Basically, what the Russians are trying to do is they're trying to provoke (INAUDIBLE) fighter pilots into responding. They're maneuvering very closely, as you see from this gun camera footage that's in front of us of an Su-35 Russian fighter coming toward an American fighter. They are in essence using dogfight-like maneuvers in order to entice the Americans into a combat-type situation.

That type of international incident, of course, we have major repercussions and American pilots have been instructed not to respond to it.

WHITFIELD: Yes. They got to try and stay cool the whole time and under immense pressure. All right. Colonel Cedric Leighton, thanks so much.

LEIGHTON: You bet, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. It's man versus mouse in Florida right now. Disney sues Florida Governor Ron DeSantis alleging government retaliation. What we know about the suit and how it could play out in a courtroom next.

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WHITFIELD: New York Mayor Eric Adams is calling on FEMA to withhold funding from cities seeking asylum seekers to his city or rather sending asylum seekers to his city. Governors from Texas and Arizona began sending buses full of asylum seekers to Northeastern cities like New York and Washington, D.C. last year. And action they said was meant to send a message to the Biden administration and democratic cities that border states are bearing too much of a burden for the migrant crisis.

But now New York's overtaxed shelter system is struggling to keep up. And officials expect a further surge in border crossings when a pandemic error rule called Title 42 expires in less than two weeks from now.

Polo Sandoval joins us now from New York along with Priscilla Alvarez at the White House. So, Polo, you first. So, has there been any response to the New York mayor's request?

POLO SANDOVAL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (on camera): So, what we see here is basically the New York City Mayor Eric Adams and turning to FEMA and asking them to remove any sort of financial incentive for mayors in other parts of the country, trying to keep them from offering some of those rides to migrants and their cities to other cities. And if the last year has taught us anything, New York City continues to sort of lead the pack in terms of very popular destinations for migrants, either because they know people here or they have heard about the services.

So, we'll have to see exactly how FEMA response to Adams here. But what's important here, Fred is sort of the broader backdrop of it all. It's certainly not lost in New York City officials that border communities are already once again noticing an uptick ahead of the removal of Title 42. And if the last year has taught us anything, is it increases 2000 miles south of here usually will translate to at least noticeable upticks here.

And when you look at these numbers, Fred, the city says it cannot handle anymore. At least 58,000 already processed by the city shelter system and the next number is important of them. 36,000 at least are still in the city's care and the result is a mounting tab of about $817 million over the last year of New York City's migrant crisis.

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And the projections, if they've continued to hold suggests that we -- the city may be out some $1.4 billion by the end of June. So, this is the now. The city has already applied for about $654 million in FEMA funding. We'll see if they get any of that in the coming weeks. But we're getting to some tricky political territory here is we have recently heard Eric Adams, mayor of New York really sort of amplified that pressure on his fellow Democrat in the White House.

Calling on Joe Biden to enact any possible executive action to expand TPS protections to include Central America, Venezuela, perhaps even, you know, other countries. The idea there, according to the mayor is that could potentially lead to some employment opportunities for asylum seekers here. But again, this does potentially lead to a very thorny political relationship between the mayor of New York City and his counterpart in the White House. We have reached out to the White House to see how they're responding to Eric Adams' criticism of them.

WHITFIELD: All right. And Priscilla, you're there at the White House. A, has there been a response to the mayor? And then number two, what kind of preparations is the White House, you know, putting in place for Title 42, which will soon be ending as the COVID era border restriction that let border agents quickly expel certain migrants.

PRISCILLA ALVAREZ, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER (on camera): Administration officials have been saying over the course of the last year that they have been in touch with cities around the country. And that includes New York City and the office of Mayor Adams and Adams himself. I spoke to a Homeland Security Official just yesterday who told me that they are in touch with their office as these concerns mount about a surge on the U.S.-Mexico border next month.

And what that means not only for those border cities, but also for the interior. And Fred, we're really already starting to see that uptick. Just moments ago, I talked to Homeland Security officials who told me that there are now more than 20,000 migrants in custody along the U.S.-Mexico border there. Facing about 7000 people a day. That's a number that they expect to go up. And they're already seeing that as they see that restriction Title 42 come to an end on May 11th.

And the reason it's ending is because that is also when the Coronavirus public health emergency expire. So, it all will go away together which puts pressure on the administration to make sure that their preparations are underway. So, what does that look like? This week, they announced regional processing centers in Latin America, where migrants who are traversing to the U.S.-Mexico border can actually stop there and apply for legal pathways to legally come to the US.

And that's really what the administration has been underscoring. Programs, policies that would allow people to stay where they are and apply to come to United States. But for those who do come, they've also talked about how going back to decades or protocols means we're storing legal consequences and pushing people back. So, all of this Fred, a challenge for the administration. They're aware of it and it is going to be an uphill battle in the weeks to come.

WHITFIELD: All right. Thanks to both of you. Priscilla Alvarez, Polo Sandoval. Appreciate it.

All right. Florida, GOP lawmakers have cleared the path for Governor Ron DeSantis to run for president without resigning. On Friday, the legislators tweaked a law that currently requires candidates in the state seeking higher office to give up their elected post once they qualify for the ballot. DeSantis has not yet officially announced that he's running for the Republican nomination but is widely expected to jump into the race in the coming weeks after Florida lawmakers conclude their legislative session.

So, with me right now to talk about this and more, Julian Zelizer. He is a CNN political analyst and historian and professor at Princeton University. Great to see you. So, do you think this move by the GOP lawmakers in Florida is a clear signal that DeSantis is going to jump into the race?

JULIAN ZELIZER, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Yes. I think everyone's assuming he is going to jump in the race. This smooths the path a little more. And I think he is -- he's waiting. The timing is still fine. He's obviously worried though as he waits. His poll numbers keep slipping which is not how you want to enter a race.

WHITFIELD: Well, might this whole battle with Disney have anything to do with that? I mean, he's facing, you know, growing a sentiment and fight with Disney. The biggest employer in the state. This week, the entertainment giant, you know, filed a lawsuit against DeSantis accusing him of weaponizing his political power to punish the company for exercising its free speech rights.

You have a new opinion piece out where you just wrote for cnn.com and you say DeSantis' war with Disney is a big mistake for the Florida Governor.

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Is this, you know, contributing to his dipping approval numbers within the GOP?

ZELIZER: It is. It works poorly on a number of fronts. First, it's defining him really as a right-wing culture warrior instead of a potential coalition building, Trumpian Republican, which was initially what he was presenting himself as.

I don't think this is the best look for a possible national candidate. He's going against one of the most iconic corporations, and one that brings a lot of revenue into his state.

Big business is part of that Republican base, and I think he's angering them.

So on a number of fronts, I think this is setting him back right as the former president is accelerating his attacks on DeSantis.

WHITFIELD: OK. Even from GOP national leadership, there is real pressure, I mean, out-loud expressing that DeSantis needs to lay off Disney.

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy suggested DeSantis should sit down and negotiate, his words, with Disney.

GOP presidential candidate, Nikki Haley, tweeting, "Hey Disney, my home state will happily accept your 70,000-plus jobs if you want to leave Florida. We have great weather, great people, and it's always a great day in South Carolina."

So, I mean, this is turning into quite the issue. And DeSantis is losing friendship within the GOP.

ZELIZER: No, absolutely. A lot of Republicans were waiting for these kinds of mistakes because he was positioned so well.

And he's deep into this. It's one of these -- it's a quagmire. He has trouble figuring out, I think, how he gets out of this, if he wants to.

I think a lot of Republican opponents, a lot of Republican critics are seizing on this.

And I think the business community is not going to be happy. This is hands-on conservatism, which is antithetical to what conservative Republican economic policy has promised over the years.

WHITFIELD: So this Disney fight, I mean, it's just part of DeSantis' whole culture wars, which has become his signature issue, his real hallmark.

This week, he tried to broaden his appeal with an overseas trip to Asia, London, Israel, and to beef up his foreign policy credentials. Did this trip in any way help him pivot away from this culture wars battle with Disney?

ZELIZER: It didn't in terms of what is covered. The battle with Disney is getting a lot more coverage than his trip overseas.

And there's some negative reports from his trip overseas, that leaders were not particularly impressed.

I mean, he's starting to look a little bit, before he's announced, like Jeb Bush when he ran or Rick Perry, meaning, someone who is very promising, seen as an inevitable candidate, but all of a sudden the problems with him, with his agenda and his persona are all coming to the forefront.

WHITFIELD: All right. Julian Zelizer, it seems like a rocky road before the road has even begun on the campaign. We'll see what happens next.

Thanks so much.

ZELIZER: Thanks for having me.

All right. In a CNN exclusive with Arnold Schwarzenegger, the actor and California governor opens up about his father, who was a Nazi, and why he feels it's imperative today to speak out against hate.

He's also speaking out on his disappointment that Donald Trump appears to be the current frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination.

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UNIDENTIFIED CORRESPONDENT: You said history shouldn't repeat itself. Donald Trump is now the frontrunner to be the nominee of the Republican party. Does that concern you?

ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER, ACTOR & FORMER CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR: Absolutely not. Because being a frontrunner of one party and letting them dig this hole deeper and deeper is going to make it easier for the Democrats to win.

It's sad to see that, that they couldn't come up with a new talent, with a new face that is a reasonable, smart, intelligent person that can lead this country in a republic way.

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WHITFIELD: Schwarzenegger has continued to be very outspoken since leaving office.

Following the January 6th insurrection, the former governor released a video comparing the riot to the so-called Night of Broken Glass, a rampage of violence by the Nazi regime against Jewish communities, synagogues and businesses in Germany and Austria in 1938.

And you can see much more of this CNN exclusive on CNN's "State of the Union" tomorrow.

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All right. Up next, never-before-seen photos of the White House leading up to the operation of the killing of Osama bin Laden. We have them and we'll show them to you, next.

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WHITFIELD: Newly released photos from May 1st, 2011, offer a window into the planning and tension at the White House the day Osama bin Laden was killed. The photos were obtained by "The Washington Post" via a Freedom of Information Act request.

CNN's Brian Todd takes a look at that extraordinary moment in American history.

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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): A never-before-seen image depicting the intensity and drama during the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

Then-President Obama and Vice President Biden in the White House Situation Room, tension visible on their faces, pressing Defense Secretary Bob Gates, one of several newly published pictures from inside the White House on that momentous day, May 1ST, 2011.

PETER BERGEN, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: They all knew, look, if this thing goes wrong, al-Qaeda fights back. Special operations people that are captured or killed. Bin Laden isn't there. The Pakistani military gets involved. There's a lot of things that could go wrong.

TODD: These pictures just obtained by "The Washington Post" from the Obama Presidential Library from a Freedom of Information Act request.

Previously, this was the image the public knew best from that day. Obama along with Biden, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other top aides watching the bin Laden raid in real time, Clinton's hand over her mouth.

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CNN national security analyst, Peter Bergen, believes this was around the time the Navy SEALs' helicopter clipped a wall and was damaged in a hard landing.

Bergen interviewed President Obama and all the key players in the room for the CNN documentary, "We Got Him."

BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It's here where we observed, for example, that one of the helicopters got damaged in the landing.

BERGEN: And what were you thinking?

OBAMA: I was thinking that this is not an ideal start.

HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER US SECRETARY OF STATE: And that your heart was in your throat the whole time we were in there. I've never spent any more stressful 30-plus minutes in my life.

TODD: The newly released pictures show Obama watching intently, asking questions. When word came that the raid was successful, Obama is photographed shaking hands with Gates.

Other photos depict the President making calls to give the news to former Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton and calls to other world leaders.

Other images show the President and his team working on the speech he would give to the nation late that night as they could hear a crowd gathering outside the White House.

In one of the newly released photos, Biden and then-Joint Chiefs Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen show White House photographer, Pete Souza the rosary beads they'd had wrapped around their fingers during the bin Laden raid.

TODD (on camera): What sense do they give you of just the relief afterwards?

BERGEN: I'll tell you what a lot of people said. They said that they only really realized what a big deal this was when they left the White House. Suddenly, they hear these cheers and that's when people said, you know, some people said, I started crying.

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TODD (on camera): On those phone calls that President Obama made to tell other world leaders about the bin Laden raid, according to Obama's memoir, when he told then-Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari about it, Zardari's reply was, quote, "Whatever the fallout, it is very good news," end quote.

That, despite the public backlash from the Pakistani government at the time, expressing serious displeasure with the raid.

Brian Todd, CNN, Washington.

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WHITFIELD: New data shows a drug used to treat diabetes could lead to weight loss. And it's not Ozempic. Could it be a potential game changer? That's next.

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WHITFIELD: The research shows a drug used to regulate blood sugar can also help with weight loss in diabetes patients. It's called Tirzepatide.

According to the data from the manufacturer, Eli Lilly, more than 900 adults with obesity and diabetes took the injectable drug for more than a year. Those who received the highest dose lost an average of about 34 pounds, or about 16 percent of their starting weight.

The data has not yet been peer reviewed or published in a medical journal.

Eli lily says it will use the findings to ask the FDA to fast track approval for weight loss.

I want to bring in now primary care physician, Dr. Saju Mathew.

Doctor, good to see you.

So this could be a potential game changer for diabetes patients who are also obese. How does it work? And what are the side effects?

DR. SAJU MATHEW, PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN: I'll tell you what, Fred, I don't take the word "game changer" lightly at all. I think this absolutely can be a life-changing event for obesity patients.

We have about 40 percent of people who are obese in this country. And, Fred, we spend over $170 billion in obesity related medical issues.

So how does this drug work? It basically mimics a hormone in your stomach that talks to your brain and your G.I. system that your stomach is full. It delays gastric emptying and that means people don't eat a lot and you're full consistently.

And just like you mentioned as well, it lowers the sugar. It increases the insulin level. So it works on that patient who is both obese and a diabetic as well.

WHITFIELD: So it's appetite suppressing. I mean, is one end of it.

So does insurance cover this drug or would it cover this drug?

MATHEW: That's the real issue. And I really would like insurance companies to change their mindset on obesity, Fred. Obesity is a chronic medical disease and we need to treat it like we treat high blood pressure and diabetes.

But, no, currently, for obesity related medications, it can cost over $1,000 a month.

WHITFIELD: Whoa.

MATHEW: So it's going to be really difficult --

WHITFIELD: That's expensive.

MATHEW: Yes, it's very expensive. So I'm hoping that insurance companies will realize that we need to help patients treat obesity just like we treat high blood pressure, diabetes and heart disease. And I hope that that is what's going to happen moving forward.

WHITFIELD: Yes. Because that's expensive and that would make it less assessable.

So another key prescription for diabetes patient is Ozempic. We all know the commercials. We know the jingle. But it fell in short supply last year after it was approved for weight loss.

So if the FDA were to approve this Tirzepatide for weight loss, should patients be concerned about another potential of a shortage?

MATHEW: There's a huge potential for abuse. I get probably five to six phone calls every day at work with patients who are not obese.

Listen, this drug is really for patients who have a BMI of 27 or higher or have an obesity-related medical issue like sleep apnea, diabetes or hypertension.

So, yes, we should not abuse this drug. It is for that patient that is morbidly obese that needs to get on this medication.

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And then there are also side effects potentially that are well tolerated, nausea and vomiting.

But I'm telling you, Fred, I'm excited to be a primary care physician in this era where we can treat obesity and decrease these complications moving forward.

WHITFIELD: All right. Turning to coronavirus, earlier this month, the FDA amended its authorization for a second bivalent booster to allow certain vulnerable individuals to receive additional doses before this fall's vaccination campaign.

So how important is it for these groups to get an early booster?

MATHEW: I know people are tired, sick and tired of hearing about Covid, but I'm going to break it down into two simple points.

If you get this new bivalent Covid booster that includes Omicron, you decrease your risk of severe disease and you decrease your risk of hospitalization.

So the FDA and the CDC are recommending, if it's been at least four months from your first bivalent vaccine and you're 65 years and older or you're immunocompromised, you should go ahead and get the second Covid vaccine.

I think for the rest of the population, in June, there will be another meeting and we can decide if people younger than 65 years and older should get vaccinated.

WHITFIELD: All right, Dr. Saju Mathew, always great to see you. Thanks so much.

MATHEW: Thanks, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. New search released this week highlights how a statewide pilot program in California used dogs to sniff for signs of Covid-19 in K-12 schools. And now officials say they want to expand beyond schools.

CNN health reporter, Jacqueline Howard, spoke with the team behind this new study -- Jacqueline?

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JACQUELINE HOWARD, CNN HEALTH REPORTER: It was just last year, in April and May, when California public health officials included detection dogs in their Covid-19 screening programs for some schools.

Two yellow labs, Scarlet and Rizzo, were trained to detect volatile organic compounds that are associated with Covid-19 infections. And then they were sent to 27 schools where kids lined up as the dogs smelled their ankles and feet.

The dogs were trained to sit when they detected what could be those volatile organic compounds that are associated with Covid. Then the person the dog sat next to would need to complete a nasal swab antigen Covid test.

Now, as part of this pilot program, the dogs accurately detected 85 infections, ruled out more than 3,400, resulting in an overall accuracy of 90 percent.

The dogs missed 18 infections. And the searchers say the dogs do not necessarily replace nasal swab testing. Instead, they can help indicate which person may need a test and which person. And that could help save on time and resources.

The researchers think the dogs could be trained to detect other types of diseases, too.

Here is Carole Edwards, executive director of the non-profit, Early Alert K9s. She works with the dogs. Have a listen.

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CAROLE EDWARDS, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, EARLY ALERT K9S: We've talked about T.B, we've talked about flu, A and B, possibly, for this next flu season, if we can get the dogs to alert on that.

It's just a matter of being able to figure out how to collect samples, how to train the dogs, and then to be safe and effective around those diseases, too.

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HOWARD: And the researchers say they're already exploring how the dogs could be used in nursing homes, too, especially if there's an outbreak of Covid or the flu.

Back to you.

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WHITFIELD: Jacqueline Howard, thank you so much.

Much more ahead in the next hour of the NEWSROOM. But first, this week on "SEARCHING FOR MEXICO," Eva Longoria explores Veracruz where the conquistadors first invaded Mexico. There, she explores the footsteps of her ancestors who arrived 400 years ago.

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EVA LONGORIA, ACTRESS: How are you? (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I know. I'm so excited you're here.

LONGORIA: I can't believe it. This is a crazy busy place.

(voice-over): Laparoocia (ph), said to be Mexico's oldest cafe, is one of Anna's favorite haunts.

(on camera): So Veracruz is super special to you? Obviously, you're from here.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, I was born here. My family is still here.

LONGORIA: What does the rest of Mexico think of Veracruz?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They're known as (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE).

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because I guess we're old, (EXPLETIVE DELETED), (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

LONGORIA: So, OK. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So we are known because of our sense of humor.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're also very good also at dancing. The Salsa.

LONGORIA: Everything started here.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Exactly.

A lot of first things happened here. The Spanish came through Veracruz. That's why the coffee --

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LONGORIA: Oh, my gosh.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)

LONGORIA: OK.

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Exactly! Yay!

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WHITFIELD: Watch as Eva Longoria explores Veracruz, the birthplace of Mexico's key ingredients. A new episode of "EVA LONGORIA, SEARCHING FOR MEXICO," Sunday at 9:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific right here on CNN.

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WHITFIELD: Hello, again, everyone. Thank you so much for joining me. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

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