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Hurricane-Force Winds, Hail And Long-Lasting Damaging Tornadoes Possible; White House Releases Photos Of Trump Overseeing Strikes In Yemen; Trump Invokes War-Time Law To Speed Up Mass Deportations; Venezuelans Who Backed Trump Now Fear They're Next To Be Deported; Shutdown Fight Leaves Democrats Fractured; Trump's Net Job Approval Rating Drops Among Voters, Judge Limits Trump's Use Of Alien Enemies Act For Deportations; First Step In Mission To Bring Astronauts Home. Aired 7-8p ET

Aired March 15, 2025 - 19:00   ET

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JESSICA DEAN, CNN HOST: You're in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Jessica Dean in New York.

We are following breaking news tonight as a dangerous storm system surges across the Deep South. Large, powerful tornadoes have been confirmed in Mississippi, with officials warning numerous towns of a catastrophic threat.

Tornado warnings are also in place in Alabama, with a tornado watch in effect for parts of Georgia, North Carolina and Tennessee. The sweeping storm system has already caused widespread destruction and left at least 26 people dead, including 12 in Missouri, and at least 27 tornadoes have been reported since Friday evening across the Midwest and south.

Meteorologist Derek Van Dam is joining us now live.

Derek, today we've seen more tornado warnings, I believe, than any day since last April. What are you tracking right now?

DEREK VAN DAM, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Jessica, also heartbreaking to hear those fatality numbers continuing to rise as we're on air through the course of the day today. Just very, very difficult stuff. Thinking about the people who have been impacted by this and their lives have been changed in an instant.

This is all part of a broad system. A tornado outbreak that is ongoing right now. A particularly dangerous situation. Just to give you an example of how many tornadoes, confirmed tornadoes in the past 48 hours. So this is since yesterday. We've had 44 tornado reports, over 400 reports of wind and wind damage, over 150 reports of large hail as well, just very significant system moving through.

By the way, this is interesting today alone, and we're not even done with Saturday. We have actually seen more tornado warnings today issued since April of last year. So a very active day, particularly dangerous right here, right across central portions of Alabama. But this is, of course, shifting eastward. And it's not necessarily bringing tornadoes to this region as we speak. In fact, we've kind of momentarily put a pause on these warnings, which is good news.

But Taylorsville, Mississippi, southeastern portions of the state, was actually struck with three different consecutive tornadoes in a period of an hour to an hour and a half. You're looking at one of those confirmed tornadoes that was captured by an individual on the ground there. You can see that large, large funnel. Sometimes these are referred to as wedge tornadoes because they're wider than they are tall. And they can be very, very destructive as well. So we're really trying to gather more information out of the Taylorsville region.

Let's move a little further to the north. This is northern Alabama. We were concerned about a storm near Huntsville that had some characteristics of tornadic development, but that has since died down. And then we're going to focus in here into eastern sections of Tennessee, where there is currently a new tornado watch just north of Chattanooga. This area here, we're going to time it out for you and show you just how the storm is racing to the northeast, a good 40 to 50-mile-per-hour storm velocity with this.

And it will impact several different cities over eastern Tennessee in the coming hours and coming minutes as well. Again, part of a larger storm system, not only confined to the Deep South, but also into the Tennessee river valley, so even into the Ohio River Valley as well. So where is it headed? That's the key question.

Well, Atlanta, north Georgia, we've got to pay close attention tonight. You may be woken up tonight by tornado sirens, thunder, lightning. It is going to be an intense night across the Atlanta metropolitan before these storms move off the East Coast, but also bring another severe weather threat to this region for the day tomorrow.

And I want to stress this. We don't need a tornado to cause damage. There is a lot of wind energy associated with this system, especially in the upper levels of the atmosphere. And sometimes with these intense storm systems, they can usher that air down to the surface of the earth. And there's lots and lots of trees throughout this region that could be downed very easily with that type of wind gusts.

Here's another threat. Compounding the problems we have here. Flash flood warnings ongoing across Tennessee -- Jessica.

DEAN: All right, a lot to track. Derek Van Dam, thanks so much for keeping us updated.

VAN DAM: You got it.

DEAN: Breaking news right now, the White House just releasing new images of President Trump overseeing a military operation in Yemen.

Let's go straight to CNN's Kevin Liptak, who is live in West Palm Beach.

And, Kevin, we're just getting these images in from the White House. What more are you learning?

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KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes. And you see the president there wearing a headset, looking at a monitor. He's accompanied down here in Florida by his National Security Adviser Mike Waltz and the Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

You know, I'm told that the Pentagon has been developing options for these strikes on the Houthis for several weeks, but they were only finalized within the last several days. And then the president giving the order this morning to carry out what he's calling a decisive and powerful military action against the Houthis, which, you'll remember, are the Iran-backed militia group in Yemen that had been targeting that maritime corridor in the Red Sea, going after commercial vessels and warships, really disrupting a lot of international trade.

The president said earlier today that he would be targeting bases, leaders and missile defenses associated with that group, using what he calls overwhelming lethal force. You know, the Biden administration had also targeted Houthi positions inside of Yemen. It didn't necessarily deter that group from this Red Sea strategy. But what officials say is different this time is that it will be a more sustained approach, that this is not a one-off, as one official said, that this could potentially take several days or even weeks to carry out what the Pentagon has envisioned here.

The president, I think, is also sending a warning to Iran. And remember, he just sent a letter to the supreme leader of Iran saying that he wanted to open negotiations on that country's nuclear program. But the president has also not ruled out military action. And I think this could be interpreted as an opening salvo to Tehran that he will be using military action in the region going forward to degrade Iran's proxy groups, but also potentially in Iran itself.

And so this is all sort of culminating in these attacks that you're seeing today. But those photos, I think, are striking. The president clearly, you know, he was on the golf course this morning, but clearly also carrying out this task as well here over the weekend in Florida.

DEAN: All right, Kevin Liptak, thank you so much for that update. We appreciate it.

Americans are worrying about President Trump's escalating trade war. A new survey showing consumer sentiment dropping sharply nearly 11 percent this month. That's to its lowest level in more than two years. And new CNN polling shows more than half of U.S. adults disapprove of President Trump's handling of the economy.

Joining us now, CNN senior political analyst Ron Brownstein.

Ron, it is wonderful to see you as always.

RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Hi, Jessica.

DEAN: In your latest CNN piece, you argued that consumer confidence was Trump's greatest strength in his first term. We now know it's becoming increasingly a weakness. Can he turn this around do you think?

BROWNSTEIN: Yes. No, it's really striking. You know, his most consistent political asset in his first term was voter confidence in his management of the economy. Every time Gallup, CNN or CNBC polled during his first term more voters approved of the way he was handling the economy than approved of his presidential performance overall. That's turned upside down almost immediately in Gallup, in CNN, in Quinnipiac and other polls.

His economic approval rating now lags below his overall approval rating. In that new CNN poll, 56 percent disapproved of his handling of the economy. In his first term, he never had majority disapproval on the economy. And you mentioned the University of Michigan, the expectations for the future of the economy among independents in the latest Michigan data released yesterday was 20 percent worse than at any point in Trump's first term.

Now, you know, opinions about Trump on the economy are not set in stone yet. I think most voters, you know, are willing to give him more time. But this is, I think, a pretty clear warning signs that the same anxiety about the cost of living that helped propel him to the White House may now be dragging him down, particularly because, as we see in our CNN polling and others, most voters do not see him as focused on that issue as much as they are themselves.

DEAN: It's so interesting because I had a woman from the "Financial Times" on in the last hour, and she was explaining how this is just a -- this could potentially be, if it goes forward, like a wholesale realignment of the American economy. And there is this question of, were people really voting for that, or did they just want the 2019 economy back? You know? And you do wonder about that.

BROWNSTEIN: You know, in a strange way, listening to Trump and reading the press releases from the White House, he's argued himself into the same position as Joe Biden, where he's trying to respond to concerns about prices by talking about jobs. Right? I mean, Biden, amid all the concern about inflation, when Biden would tout the good economy, he talked about all of the investment in the country that his agenda was triggering, you know, through the Inflation Reduction Act and the CHIPS Act.

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And, in fact, there was over $1 trillion in new investment, on employment and new factories manufacturing. Unemployment was very low, 1.6 million manufacturing and construction jobs created during his presidency. Now comes Trump, and he's basically arguing well, with a different means tariffs, I'm going to get the same results, plus I'm going to get a lot more manufacturing jobs back in the U.S.

But if the cost of that is higher prices on voters, I think we got a pretty good test that, you know, more voters are concerned about their cost at the groceries and the gas pump than they are about whether you're opening new factories in Ohio and Kentucky. I mean, that -- we ran an experiment on that and the results were pretty overwhelming I think in 2024.

DEAN: Mm. And before I let you go, I know you've covered immigration for decades. Just today, just in the last couple of hours, President Trump signing this executive order invoking the wartime powers to speed up mass deportations, the Alien Enemies Act. It's only been invoked three times in American history, always during times of war.

How do you think the American public is going to respond to this?

BROWNSTEIN: Well, you know, I think there is a lot of leeway for Trump to be tougher on immigration up to the point of deporting longtime residents, particularly with American citizen children. So if people look at it through that lens that he is going after gangs, you know, Venezuelan gangs and so forth, I think there'll be a lot of receptivity to it.

But there's another angle from which people are looking at this. And you already see again in that CNN polling that came out a couple of days ago, over 60 percent of all Americans and over 70 percent of independent voters, the kind of voters who tip elections, are worried that Trump is not respecting the rule of law.

So -- and if you kind of stack this up against many of the other things that are going on, his speech at the Justice Department, his detention of a, you know, protester with a green card, his attacks on law firms that represented Democratic clients, you could see how for many voters, even if they support the ends here, you know, of tracking down on this gang, the means may trouble them in the context of everything else that he is doing that represents a challenge to the rule of law as we have understood it for the previous 250 years.

DEAN: Yes. All right. Ron Brownstein, always good to see you. Thanks so much.

BROWNSTEIN: Thanks for having me.

DEAN: A new crew of astronauts is set to arrive at the International Space Station tonight, where they'll hopefully relieve Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams, whose very, very, very long stay, it should have been weeks, it ballooned into nine months, could potentially be over. We are talking with a NASA official and a longtime astronaut about the mission that's been a long time coming. That's next.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: As soon as I take the oath of office, we will begin the largest deportation operation in the history of our country.

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DEAN: President Trump vowed during his campaign to be tough on immigration. And tonight, he invoked a law from the 18th century that gives him the authority to target and remove undocumented immigrants. The White House citing the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua as Trump's reasoning for calling this law back into use. But Trump's immigration crackdown is now causing some Venezuelans in one Florida community to worry.

CNN's Priscilla Alvarez has more.

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PRISCILLA ALVAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For Carol Duran Perez, the routines of daily life have been thrown into chaos. She's a Venezuelan immigrant now terrified of being deported.

Are you afraid of your son walking to school?

CAROL DURAN PEREZ, VENEZUELAN TPS HOLDER (through translation): Yes. Truly. Yes.

ALVAREZ: What are you afraid of?

PEREZ (through translator): That they'll pick him up and he won't have time to call me. Also, that it might happen when I'm not with him or he's not with me. That is the worst fear I have.

ALVAREZ (voice-over): Like so many other Venezuelans, she cheered when Donald Trump was elected because of his tough approach to policies, such as his promise to crack down on a violent Venezuelan criminal organization.

TRUMP: We will expel every single illegal alien, gang member and migrant criminal operating on American soil and remove the savage gang, Tren de Aragua, from the United States.

ALVAREZ: You supported Donald Trump even though you couldn't vote for him.

PEREZ (through translator): Yes, yes. I believe there is a large community of Venezuelans who did.

ALVAREZ (voice-over): What she didn't expect is for those policies to throw her life in limbo and stoke fear in her community.

Carol is one of hundreds of thousands of Venezuelan immigrants who were granted Temporary Protected Status, or TPS, under the Biden administration. President Trump wiped that away for all Venezuelans.

When they said the TPS is going to be revoked, were you surprised?

PEREZ (through translator): Yes, totally. And this was a hard blow because, practically, the same day he took office, he went against Venezuelans. It seemed personal.

ALVAREZ (voice-over): Carol is not alone. This slice of Florida is affectionately called Doralzuela. Doral, a Miami suburb best known for its Trump golf resort, is home to 27,000 Venezuelan immigrants, more than any other city in the U.S.

President Donald Trump handily won Doral in 2024, a place where 40 percent of its population has Venezuelan roots. And it's restaurants like these that have become staples of the community. Also where they've protested his actions to revoke TPS.

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(Voice-over): El Arepazo is a gathering place for Venezuelans. The restaurant is losing business. People are afraid to leave their homes. Immigration attorney, Ros-Ana Guillen, says her phone hasn't stopped ringing since the decision to revoke deportation protections.

ROS-ANA GUILLEN, IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY: And there's actually people sobbing on the other line, crying and scared for their family members.

ALVAREZ: She says it's a mistake for the Trump administration to group all Venezuelans together with the criminal gangs.

GUILLEN: We have doctors, engineers, baseball players, musicians. We have a beautiful community. They came here legally. They pay taxes. They contribute to our economy.

ALVAREZ: Local officials have warned that the Doral economy could grind to a halt if Venezuelans lose their ability to work legally.

MAUREEN PORRAS, VICE MAYOR, DORAL, FLORIDA: Without that community, I think Doral will cease to be what it is. We're going to turn into a city that is going to lose a lot of its residents.

ALVAREZ: A group of Venezuelans is suing the Trump administration for revoking TPS, arguing the decision was, quote, "illegal" for multiple reasons. For Carol, time is running out.

What are you most afraid of for you and your son?

PEREZ (through translator): Of being deported, that they separate me from my son.

ALVAREZ (on-camera): We also spoke to Venezuelan Americans who voted for President Donald Trump, who are hoping that the ongoing litigation could block the revoking of deportation protections. And if not that, then perhaps another solution.

But what was clear from every conversation is that many Venezuelans say they can't return to the oppressive regime of Venezuela because they say they are fleeing political persecution. As one told us, quote, "We don't have a place to go back to."

Priscilla Alvarez, CNN, Washington.

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DEAN: Democrats in Congress say they're doing what they can to resist President Trump's agenda, but voters say their best just isn't good enough. We're running the numbers on that straight ahead. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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DEAN: President Trump has now signed that stopgap funding bill to keep the government open for the next six months. The bill highlighting the deep divide between Democrats after Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer announced he would back it, leading to many to wonder about the future of the Democratic Party.

CNN chief data analyst Harry Enten is joining us now.

So, Harry, hello. Happy Saturday to you.

HARRY ENTEN, CNN SENIOR DATA CORRESPONDENT: Hello. You as well.

DEAN: How do voters and Democrats view congressional Democrats at this point?

ENTEN: You know, I'm a big fan of the oldies. And when it comes to the feelings that Americans, voters at large and Democrats have, I can't help but think of Chubby Checker. Why is that? Because the question is, how low can you go? Voters' views of Democrats in Congress, the lowest ever approval ratings on record per Quinnipiac University.

Look at this approve 21 percent among all voters. Look at the disapprove level. Holy Toledo, 68 percent of all voters disapprove of how Democrats are doing in Congress. Now, you might think that is low and this is the lowest number on your screen here, down at 21 percent. But I want to bring you over here to how Democratic voters feel, because this is truly unbelievable.

Amongst their own party, how do Democratic representatives, senators, how are they viewed? Get this, the plurality disapprove at 49 percent. More Democrats disapprove of the job that their party is doing in Congress than approve. Get this only 40 percent approve. These are truly horrific numbers. They are in the trash bin of history. That is how low these approval ratings are. When you can't even get plurality approval among your own party, you know you're doing something wrong in the eyes of the American public, Jessica.

DEAN: You're in the trash bin of history. Yikes.

ENTEN: Yes.

DEAN: OK, so what do Democrats then want out of their congressional Democrats?

ENTEN: Yes. What do Democrats want from their own party, right?

DEAN: Yes.

ENTEN: Do they want them to agree with Trump more, or do they want to oppose Trump more? OK. Democrats in Congress oppose Trump too often. Just 4 percent. How about the right amount? Just 19 percent. How about not enough? You don't have to be a mathematical genius to know that this is the largest number on your screen. 77 percent of Democratic voters say that their party in Congress does not oppose Donald Trump nearly enough.

So you might be thinking to yourself, with this shutdown that did not actually happen, where the Democrats gave Trump and the Republicans the votes. I can tell you with pretty much no doubt that their party, at least in the American public, does not like, that they want them to fight Trump more. When you get 77 percent of your own party agreeing on something, you know that is the direction that they wish their representatives and senators in Congress in Washington actually went.

DEAN: Interesting. And had there been a government shutdown, would it have hurt Democrats among all voters?

ENTEN: Right. So we're talking about the --

DEAN: That is a big question.

ENTEN: Yes, that's the big question, right? Because amongst Democrats, we know that they wanted their representatives and senators in Washington to fight Trump more. But what about the entire public? Because sometimes there's disagreements between those two sides, right? And perhaps they had forced the shutdown, or they had not given Republicans the votes that might have actually been something bad amongst the overall public, right? That might have backfired amongst the overall public.

But in this particular case, I think the Democratic base was in the right position here, at least when it comes to the American public because take a look here. Blame for a government shutdown, just 32 percent of voters would have blamed the Democrats in Congress. Look at this. 53 percent would have said Trump or the Republicans in Congress. Democrats would not have been blamed for a shutdown based upon the numbers that we have seen.

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Now, an actual shutdown might have played out a little bit differently, but at least in the polling data that we have, Jessica. Everything was saying that Democrats should not give in to Trump and the Republicans in Congress. They should have, in fact, taken a stance because that's what their base wanted. And the American public would have sided with them as well.

The bottom line is Republicans and Trump would have been blamed in this case, not the Democrats in Congress. I'm honestly not quite sure exactly what Chuck Schumer was thinking, at least when it comes to the American public and the blame game.

DEAN: Yes, and speaking of Trump going back to him for a second, how are Americans viewing him these days?

ENTEN: Yes, I think this is the big part of this equation, right? Because what you're asking for from your representatives and senators and Congress, if you're Democrats, is you want them to fight Trump more, right? If you're a Democrat. And part of the reason why is because Donald Trump, simply put, ain't too popular of a fella, Jessica, ain't too popular of a fella.

You know, we were talking about early on in this term. He's doing significantly better than he was doing in his first term. But guess what? Now, Donald Trump is underwater with the American public. You go back to January 2025 his net approval rating was plus seven points. Today it's at minus one points. He's underwater. He's underwater, as I like to say, like the little mermaid, right?

What we're dealing with now is a President who the only person who was more unpopular at a term at this point, at this point, any President, was Donald Trump himself back in 2017. So the only person Trump is beating is himself every single other president, Trump is doing worse than. Democrats in Congress should have been fighting President Trump. That's what the Democrats believe and the American public. That is what the overall electorate believes, because at this point, Trump is going down. His popularity is not too hot to trot.

DEAN: And why, why has he entered negative territory?

ENTEN: Why is he in negative territory? You know, this is the big question and, you know, I go back to our old friend James Carville. It's the economy, stupid, or in your case, it's the economy, smart, Jessica.

DEAN: Thank you.

ENTEN: Because take a look at economics. There you go. Right? I like to throw out the compliments. It's a Saturday night. There we go.

Trump's net approval on the economy. You go back in march of 2017. It was his strength, right? It was plus nine points. The reason he was elected to and the reason he beat Kamala Harris was to fix the economy. But look at where he is now. In March of 2025. He is underwater, and that is the big reason why he's underwater, overall. It's the economy that is dragging him down. This number has gone significantly off the rails as far as the American public is concerned.

He was on the positive side of the ledger back in January. He's now negative and that is why overall, he's negative -- Jessica.

DEAN: All right. That's it, you summed it all up. Harry Enten, thank you so much. It's good to see you, have a good Saturday.

ENTEN: You as well.

DEAN: All right, joining us now to talk about this row in stock markets that has knocked more than $5 trillion off the Standard and Poor's 500 index in three weeks, is Art Hogan, chief market strategist at B. Riley Financial and Dan Ives head of technology research at Wedbush Securities.

Gentlemen, great to have you here. Thanks so much for being here.

ART HOGAN, B. RILEY FINANCIAL, CHIEF MARKET STRATEGIST: Great to be here. DAN IVES, WEDBUSH SECURITIES, HEAD OF TECHNOLOGY AND RESEARCH: Great to be here.

DEAN: Yes, all right. I want to start first with you, the President and his administration have talked about in their words, a disruption to the economy, that it's the short term. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said the economy is detoxing.

Do you think that's a fair description of what we're seeing right now?

HOGAN: Well, I would say it's a fair description. Unfortunately, most voters and most market participants came into this year thinking this would look similar to Trump 1.0, where in 2018 we started a trade war. But before that we had a tax cut and we ended up levying most of the tariffs that we had strategically against China, and as opposed to having universally applied tariffs.

So, I think a lot of Trump supporters are a bit shocked by the universal approach that we have right now. So, as opposed to a scalpel, were using a sledgehammer, at least in the early days, at least in the conversations around what we are going to do. And I think that's what's caused so much uncertainty. And I think that's why markets have been so volatile.

DEAN: Right, and look, there's also the DOGE of it all, the Elon Musk of it all. Dan, you're known as one of the most bullish analysts on Tesla. It's a stock. Its stock is taking a beating. It's down more than 40 percent in the past three months. It's down so low the President actually held an event on the South Lawn of the White House promoting Teslas. We can watch a clip of that.

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DONALD TRUMP (R) PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: This man has devoted his energy and his life to doing this, and I think he's been treated very unfairly by a very small group of people. And I just want people to know that you can't be penalized for being a patriot. And he's a great patriot.

Markets are going to go up and they're going to go down. But you know what? We have to rebuild our country.

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DEAN: So two things. Do you think that something like that can boost Tesla at this critical moment. And then widening the aperture a bit, just kind of where do you think Elon's head is right now? You know, a couple months into all of this.

IVES: Yes, look, I mean, knowing Tesla and Musk from the beginning. Look, this is a white-knuckle moment because the last thing that you want to see is Tesla become a political symbol.

And I think what's starting to happen more and more is worries about brand damage. And stocks obviously have gotten crushed this year. And, you know, we believe it's a moment of truth for Musk. I mean, this is a time for him to balance being CEO of Tesla as well as on DOGE.

Because if you look at like that political, you know, sort of theater stage that we saw with Trump and Musk, it could have a negative effect too, right? Because the more it becomes a symbol, whether it's Trump, whether it is DOGE, that's a negative for Musk and Tesla in terms of the brand.

And that's the worry, and that's why the stocks they've been under so much pressure. Because for Musk, it's a bet for the ages over the long term in terms of Trump and the near term. I mean Tesla investors have really -- it's been a gut punch.

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DEAN: Yes, do you think Musk ever reaches the point where he's just like, this isn't worth it?

IVES: I believe in the next four to eight weeks, I think we hit a tipping point. I think investors have kind of, you know, they're clearly sending a message. He's going to have to balance more and more. We saw it very similar on the Twitter situation. We've seen in other periods. I think clock struck midnight. He's going to have to take a step back, still on DOGE. But now actually coming home and being CEO of Tesla.

DEAN: And, Art, in the meantime, Musk, Trump, all of these Trump advisers around him, the administration are saying, just hang on. This is what has to happen economically for America to be in a position of strength again. But how concerned are you about all of this pushing us into a recession?

HOGAN: Well, I will tell you this. I think that there's a clear chance any particular year you enter into is going to have a 30 percent chance that there's a recession. And that's usually with exogenous factors playing in.

But this year that that rise is closer to 30 percent in our estimation only because of a mistake that you can make by going too far, too fast in both cutting federal spending, cutting increasing tariffs, staying on the tariff war game, and certainly when you when you kind of think about the ramifications of all of that you're doing, the uncertainty that ensues.

So the uncertainty that's kept the markets down has been not just with the consumers or not just with investors, but it's with corporate America who don't really know what the end game is going to be here.

So, I would argue that its repairable, but it's certainly pushing it to the edge of that -- of the limit of where it can be fixed.

You need to get to the end game. We need to know what these tariffs are for. We need to know where the goalposts are. We need to know what's negotiations and what's actually going to be put in place.

And then, Dan can model that out and say, okay, this is what Tesla looks like for next year. DEAN: Yes, no, that that makes sense. All right, Art Hogan and Dan Ives fascinating. I wish we had more time. I really appreciate both of you.

IVES: Thank you.

DEAN: Thanks.

HOGAN: Thank you.

DEAN: Breaking news, we have a loss for the Trump administration after a federal judge swiftly blocked the President's latest effort to deport more migrants. We're going to explain what this means for their immigration crackdown. That's next.

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DEAN: We do have breaking news as the judge has temporarily blocked President Trump's use of a wartime law meant to speed up mass deportation. This just hours after the President signed an executive order.

CNN's Kevin Liptak is live from West Palm Beach with more on this. Kevin, walk us through what the judge said here.

KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yes, and you do see the legal machinery working very quickly after the President signed this proclamation. Only a few hours ago, the judge had already blocked its use from deporting five specific migrants that the administration had been targeting.

What he has done now is expanded that to include all undocumented migrants who are being held in custody, for whom this proclamation could apply. And he said that it was necessary to move very quickly here because, according to the plaintiffs in this case, some of the planes had already been loaded and ready to go to deport these people outside of the United States.

And so, this is on hold now for 14 days, and a hearing has been scheduled for later this month. But what this act would do, it's the Alien Enemies Act of 1798. It's a centuries old law that would give the President sweeping authority to deport certain undocumented migrants. It's meant to be used during wartime. But what President Trump says he wants to use it for is to deport migrants who are associated with the Venezuelan gang, Tren de Aragua.

Now, this law has only been used three times previously, during the World Wars and during the Japanese internment era during World War II, and I think it all comes against this backdrop inside the White House of frustrations on the part of the President and on the part of some of his advisers that the deportations he promised as a candidate are not happening quickly enough. And this law certainly would have allowed for sweeping authority to begin those deportations very quickly. But like so many else of the President's orders, it has now been blocked by a court, and it will move through the court system as the President and the Justice Department plan to appeal --Jessica.

DEAN: All right, Kevin Liptak walking us through the very latest on this breaking news. Thank you very much.

After an unexpectedly long stay on the International Space Station, two astronauts are now on the brink of coming home as their relief crew prepares to arrive on the ISS.

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DEAN: SpaceX is sending a new group of NASA astronauts up to the International Space Station, clearing the way for the current crew to finally hitch a long awaited ride back down to Earth.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Three, two, one. Ignition and liftoff.

Go SpaceX. Go NASA Crew 10.

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DEAN: Astronauts, Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore have been on the ISS since June after technical issues delayed their return for months.

Ken Bowersox is an astronaut and associate administrator with NASA. He joins us now from the Johnson Space Center in Houston.

Ken, it's great to have you here.

Listen, it was supposed to be a week for them. It's now been about nine months. I have to think they're pretty excited to come home.

KEN BOWERSOX, NASA ASSOCIATE ADMINISTRATION, SPACE OPERATIONS MISSION DIRECTORATE: Yes, going from nine days to nine months is a pretty big mission extension. It's important for everybody to realize we thought we might have them up there for a while, and we planned for that.

So, they had long duration training. We had extra equipment up there in case they needed to stay longer. But I know they'll be ready to come home and greet their families here pretty soon.

DEAN: I'm sure they will be, and good to know that -- listen, they were at least trained for this in case it did happen.

And so, now, the process has begun to bring them home. The SpaceX mission is expected to arrive in the coming hours. Walk us through what happens after that? BOWERSOX: Sure. In about four hours, the Dragon will dock to the International Space Station. The hooks will close. They'll take another hour or so to just make sure that the seals are properly mated, and that we won't have any leaks when we open the hatch. And then Crew 10 will get out. They'll cross the hatch into the Space Station.

They'll be lots of hugging and rejoicing, and then they'll start passing knowledge from the Crew 9 crew. Butch, Suni, Nick, Alexander to the Crew 10 crew so that they're ready to take over the station and maintain it, operate it the best they can, and Crew 9 will prepare to come home middle of this week.

DEAN: Wow, do you think it was the right move for Boeing to leave them in space and wait for this?

BOWERSOX: Well, so it was a joint decision with Boeing and NASA to bring the Starliner home uncrewed. I think it was the right call. It was a hard call. We really wanted to bring them home on the Starliner, but we decided to take the approach that we followed, which we all agreed was lower risk.

And now we're going to get Starliner ready for its next flight. It's already finished about 70 percent of the testing that we want to see before it flies again. And hopefully we'll see that vehicle fly again soon.

DEAN: I know we're looking at video of them while you're talking. And it's just you just -- you just think about them being there for such a long time. Tell people a little bit about what they have been doing for the last nine months because they have been working while they've been up there.

BOWERSOX: Yes, every day on the International Space Station is an adventure for the crews who are up there. They get to eat this great space food. They get to look out the window, they float everywhere from job to job.

And then they do really interesting science that will help us move humanity from low Earth orbit, where we are working today out to the moon and on to Mars.

But its -- every day is busy. I know sometimes people worry that they might get bored on the International Space Station, we don't hear too many people complain about boredom up there.

DEAN: Yes, I mean, the view is pretty amazing. I am curious too, though. You know, when they're back with gravity, what kind of physical challenges will they face? How long does it take for the body to kind of adapt?

BOWERSOX: Well, there's a lot of stages. The first stage is just feeling really heavy and then readapting your vestibular system, your balance system to gravity. That process takes a few days.

And then you have to get your muscles back in shape. We have some great exercise machines up on station that makes that problem go a lot faster. You're able to get your strength back pretty quick, but still, it takes a while before just the little muscles in your body that hold you straight here in gravity are ready to serve full time again.

And then there's longer term changes with your heart and your bone mass that gradually works back to almost normal so -- and that process takes over probably a year or so. But there are some things that never change.

Every crew that flies to the International Space Station is permanently changed just by looking out the window and seeing the Earth from orbit.

DEAN: Yes, that perspective will certainly change you.

Ken Bowersox, thank you so much. Good to see you.

BOWERSOX: Yes, thanks a lot.

DEAN: We'll have more when we come back.

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DEAN: Tonight a new episode of "Have I Got News for You" with host Roy Wood Jr. and team captains, Amber Ruffin and Michael Ian Black. Here's a preview.

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ROY WOOD, JR., AMERICAN COMEDIAN AND ACTOR: Here's your headline, The U.S. is making more seizures of, blank, than fentanyl at its Canadian and Mexican borders.

AMBER RUFFIN, AMERICAN COMEDIAN AND WRITER: Straight up crack.

WOOD JR.: Take a stand, Nimesh, what do you think of the fentanyl?

NIMESH PATEL, COMEDIAN: It's not eggs, but what's --

RUFFIN: What else is illegal? Yes, livestock, vegetables --

PATEL: What's got more street value than fentanyl at the moment?

RUFFIN: I think you we're right with eggs.

WOOD, JR.: Okay, answer -- the U.S. is making more seizures of illegal eggs than fentanyl at its Canadian and Mexican borders.

PATEL: I did not know the answer.

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DEAN: The new episode of "Have I Got News for You" airs tonight at 9:00 P.M. Eastern and Pacific, right here on CNN. Thanks so much for joining me this evening. I'm Jessica Dean. I'm going to see you back here again tomorrow night. We start at 5:00 Eastern.

"Real Time with Bill Maher" is up next. Have a great night.

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