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Trump Says He's Not Joking About A Third Term; Trump Claims Everything Is On The Table To Obtain Greenland; Elon Musk Rallies In Wisconsin Before State Supreme Court Race; United Plane Hits Kite While Landing At D.C. Airport, Rescuers Search For Survivors In Rubble of Quake; Prince Harry Accused Of "Harassment And Bullying." Aired 7- 8p ET

Aired March 30, 2025 - 19:00   ET

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JESSICA DEAN, CNN HOST: You're in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Jessica Dean in New York.

I'm not joking. President Donald Trump on the record saying he's not ruling out another run for the White House, telling NBC News, quote, "there are methods" by which he could do it. Now, the president is limited to two terms by the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution. But that has not stopped President Trump from flirting with this idea before.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It will be the greatest honor of my life to serve not once, but twice or three times or four times.

Headlines. Headlines. Headlines from the fake news. No, it will be to serve twice. Should I run again? You tell me. There's your controversy right there. There's your --

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DEAN: CNN's Betsy Klein is live in West Palm Beach tonight.

Betsy, he said he's not joking when asked about this. Then also said that it's too early to be talking about it. What more is he saying?

BETSY KLEIN, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE PRODUCER: Yes, Jessica, you're absolutely right that this is not the first time that this has come up, albeit a little tongue in cheek, as you just laid out. But President Trump openly talking about the prospect of seeking a third term in office. And he says this is not a joke.

I want to read to you part of the transcript from the telephone interview he had with NBC News' Kristen Welker. Welker says, sir, I'm hearing you don't sound like you're joking. I've heard you joke about this a number of times, to which the president responds, no, no, I'm not joking, I'm not joking. The president goes on to say that there are methods on which he could

seek a third term. Welker asked if it's possible that Vice President JD Vance gets elected and then passes the baton. The president indicated that that was an option, but he said there are others, too. The president, of course, repeatedly said it is, quote, "too early to think about it."

Now, the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution, it bears repeating, Jessica, added back in 1951, and it says no person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice. Now repealing that amendment would require a two-thirds vote in the House and Senate, and ratification in three quarters of states. So that is extremely unlikely.

However, Steve Bannon, who is a top outside ally to President Trump, has mused that the president could be eligible because the amendment doesn't specify consecutive terms. We should also note that President Trump is going to be the oldest president ever in office at the end of his second term, topping Joe Biden's record at 82 years and seven months old in January of 2029. Asked if he even wanted to serve a third term, the president said he likes working -- Jessica.

DEAN: And Betsy, I also want to ask you about the fact that President Trump is not ruling out using military force in Greenland. What's behind this push to take control of the island? What more is he saying about his thinking here?

KLEIN: Yes, in that same NBC News interview the president was asked about the prospect of taking military control over Greenland. Of course, that comes on the heels of Vice President JD Vance's trip to a U.S. military base in Northern Greenland, where Vance made the case that it is a matter of safety and warding off threats from Russia and China. The U.S. believes that Greenland is strategically important for both trade and security.

Vance said last week that he hopes the people of Greenland -- he says the people of Greenland still have self-determination, but he hopes they choose to partner with the U.S. The president, meanwhile, saying in that NBC interview, quote, "I never take military force off the table, but I think there's a good possibility that we could do it without military force," Jessica.

DEAN: All right. Betsy Klein, with the latest in West Palm Beach. Thank you very much for that.

Joining us now is CNN senior military analyst, Admiral James Stavridis. He's is also a former NATO Supreme Allied commander and a partner at the Carlyle Group, a global investment firm. He's also the author of the newly released book "The Admiral's Bookshelf."

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Admiral, thank you so much for being here on this Sunday night. I want to start first with what Betsy was just talking about. Trump isn't ruling out military force to take control of Greenland. What is your reaction to that? ADM. JAMES STAVRIDIS, CNN SENIOR MILITARY ANALYST: Well, let's start

with the value of Greenland. It is immense. The president is correct about that. And we've tried to buy Greenland twice, once in 1867, once in the 1950s. We actually purchased the Virgin Islands. U.S. Virgin Islands from Denmark. So it's not a crazy idea.

But here's the problem, Jessica. Denmark isn't selling. The Greenlanders aren't selling. In fact, they've said very dramatically that we are not for sale. But we're open for business. So I think the approach to be taken here, if we can pull Greenland toward us, perhaps with a kind of free association like we have with the Marshall Islands in the Pacific, that may be a smart way to go about this.

Bottom line, you don't want to send the 82nd Airborne up there, but you probably want to send up the secretary of the Treasury, the trade representative, maybe the commandant of the Coast Guard. Let's make this a win-win, working with Denmark and with the Greenlanders, and pull Greenland as close to us as we can.

DEAN: And I know you commanded the base where Vice President Vance visited this week as the U.S.-European commander. I want to hear -- I want to listen to what the former Danish prime minister, Helle Thorning-Schmidt, told our Fareed Zakaria this morning.

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HELLE THORNING-SCHMIDT, FORMER PRIME MINISTER OF DENMARK: This is a place where the Americans have basically scaled back and scaled back over the years. So the Americans have also taken a peace dividend in Greenland. But I do think it's fair to now, to start discussing should that end now? Are we in such a new situation? So we all have to scale up in Greenland? Denmark has just decided to invest massively in Greenland security. And the irony of all this is that the Americans could do exactly the same.

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DEAN: Admiral, I heard you in that first answer saying that you really believe strategically it's about America pulling Greenland closer, working with the Danish government. But also, can you help people understand the strategic importance of that U.S. base and if we should be considering building it back up?

STAVRIDIS: Yes, it's a crucial base. It's well north of the Arctic Circle, as you can see in the graphic you're showing. It guards the entrances to the North Atlantic. It provides air defense against anything coming from Russia to the north. It also provides bases and access for our submarines that are guarding against Russian submarines moving south. And oh, by the way, Jessica, it's full of oil and gas and strategic minerals and resources.

It's three times the size of Texas. So it would be a terrific situation for the United States to draw closer and closer. You're showing some of these advanced air defense systems that I inspected during my time as Supreme Allied commander. I'm all for pulling Greenland toward us. Final thought here. Let's recall that because of the NATO alliance,

the island already has ironclad guarantees from NATO, from all 32 nations, from our collective $1.4 trillion defense budget, in addition to a U.S. base up there. So bottom line, again, let's find a win-win here that includes Greenland, includes the Danes, and recognizes the strategic importance of this island.

DEAN: Vance's visit was not well-received by the people of Greenland or Denmark. I want to play the Danish foreign minister's response.

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LARS LOKKE RASMUSSEN, DANISH FOREIGN MINISTER: We are open to criticism. But let me be completely honest. We do not appreciate the tone in which is being delivered. This is not how you speak to your close allies. And I still consider Denmark and the United States to be close allies.

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DEAN: And, Admiral, as you know, as you just said, Denmark is a NATO member. Why do you think that American officials are taking this tone? Why do you think they're pursuing this objective this way?

STAVRIDIS: It's a mystery to me. It is counterproductive. Clearly, the people of Greenland, there's only 50,000 of them. I mean, this is a retail conversation with them. And Denmark, of course, is a very small nation as well. And we are coming across as very heavy footed in this.

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And we don't need to be. Again, the approach to be taken here is not Greenland is going to be part of the United States no matter what anybody in Greenland or Denmark think. The approach to take is, how can we think about working together to enhance the collective security of the United States, also of the NATO alliance? Again, Greenland is parked right on that transatlantic bridge between North America and Europe.

Final point, you know, sometimes what you want to do is important, but how you go about doing it is even more critical. Here I think we've got to take a smart, diplomatic and economic tone to pull Greenland toward us.

DEAN: I do want to ask you about Russia. Trump is now threatening additional tariffs on Russian oil, saying, quote, "If Russia and I are unable to make a deal on stopping the bloodshed in Ukraine, and if I think it was Russia's fault, which it might not be, but if I think it was Russia's fault, I'm going to put secondary tariffs on oil and on all oil coming out of Russia." He also said that he was pissed off at Vladimir Putin. Those were his words.

What do you think about this as a negotiating strategy?

STAVRIDIS: I like it. As far as I'm concerned the president has been to gloves off with Vladimir Putin through this whole process. So I'm very happy to hear the president of the United States say to Vladimir Putin, we are running out of patience. And if we can construct a negotiation here and a ceasefire, I think that's a very good thing.

Now there are a million different details that have to be organized here to include what are the security guarantees for the Ukrainians to ensure that Russia doesn't reinvade? What is the demilitarized zone look like between Ukraine and Russia? What is Russia prepared to do in order to guarantee it would not re-invade Ukraine? Those all have to be part of this negotiation. But so far, as I've said before, I think Vladimir Putin, and just look at the smirk on his face. Vladimir Putin is playing rope-a-dope with the president.

He's just giving a little bit on this energy infrastructure ceasefire, which hasn't really happened. Maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea. I don't see it happening. He's just trying to string this along, rebuilding his forces. I hope the president is pissed off at him. And I hope the president takes action.

And by the way, secondary sanctions or secondary tariffs, two slightly different things. But both of those would put a chill down the spine of Vladimir Putin if enforced.

DEAN: All right. Admiral James Stavridis, thank you so much. We appreciate it.

STAVRIDIS: You bet.

DEAN: Still ahead, Elon Musk wanting to give away $1 million to sway a crucial race in Wisconsin. We're going to run the numbers next.

You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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STEVE BANNON, FORMER TRUMP WHITE HOUSE CHIEF STRATEGIST: I'm a firm believer that President Trump will run and win again in 2028.

CHRIS CUOMO, NEWS NATION HOST: You know he's term limited. How do you think he gets another term?

BANNON: We're working on it. I think we'll have a couple of alternatives. Let's say that. We'll see what the definition --

CUOMO: Don't be mysterious. Because it's going to make people say --

BANNON: We'll see the definition of term -- we'll see what the definition of term limit is.

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DEAN: And that was Steve Bannon a few weeks ago. Tonight President Trump saying there are, quote, "methods" to make a third term happen and that he's not joking about this idea. He also says it's too early to be talking about it.

Joining me to discuss these comments, CNN contributor and former White House counsel for President Nixon, John Dean.

John, thanks so much for being here with us. I first just want to get your reaction to these new comments from the president.

JOHN DEAN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Well, he likes constitutional end runs. That's what Bannon was talking about. And that's what seems to be on his mind, is how he can get around the very clear language of the 22nd Amendment, which precludes getting reelected to more than two terms.

DEAN: And President Trump said I have other methods. What could those constitutionally be?

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J. DEAN: They have to be written by the Supreme Court that would redefine the Constitution, as I say, I describe it as a constitutional end run.

Jessica, this is not a new debate. It actually goes back to a "Law Journal" article in 1999 where a bunch of scholars got together and looked at the 22nd Amendment, and said, you know, maybe a president cannot be reelected twice, but maybe he can serve twice. How does he serve twice? He becomes a vice presidential candidate. Then the vice president steps aside and makes him the president under the succession statute.

This is really obtuse. This is -- it is pretty good scholarship. It's been debated for a lot of years. Hillary Clinton looked at it when she was nominated, thinking maybe her husband, former president, should be her vice president.

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But then she realized, well, he can't -- he's not really eligible to become president under my reading and most readings of the 22nd Amendment. So she precluded that. A lot of people thought Obama should go for another term. He didn't. He read the Constitution and said, no, I'm not for end runs.

DEAN: How much faith do you have in our democratic system to prevent that from happening?

J. DEAN: Well, I think the courts have held because they're being tested right now, as they never have before. There are some, over 100 cases that really implicate the Constitution and the system and our democracy, if you will, where Trump and Elon Musk in some instances are just running roughshod over the laws and the statutes that exist on how to hire people, fire people, who you can do with a statute, how do you allocate money that is appropriated by Congress?

This is just being ignored. But the courts are really making the issue of the president must comply with the law. Now the question will be, will he comply with the law? DEAN: Certainly. And I'm curious to, just from your perspective, even

having this conversation that you and I are having right now, having a sitting president that's flirting, let's call it with this idea, what does that do to American democracy?

J. DEAN: It's not healthy. I can't tell you how depressed I have been with some of his decisions, what he's doing with tariffs. He really doesn't have unlimited tariff power. That belongs to the Congress. You wouldn't know that given the current debate. So he's beating up on the economy. He's beating up on democracy. He's beating up on federal employees.

Last week, he filed a federal action in Waco, Texas, where there's only one judge who is pretty predictable on how he comes out on things, he's very conservative, to attack federal unions, federal employee unions. So these are very troubling times for me anyway, and for anybody who loves our democracy.

DEAN: All right, John Dean, as always, were really appreciative of your time. Thank you.

J. DEAN: Thank you.

DEAN: Tonight, the richest man in the world is in Wisconsin, hosting a town hall ahead of a high-stakes election Tuesday. It is a key state Supreme Court race that could be the first major test of Trump's second term and a referendum on Musk's political power. Musk, who was Trump's biggest donor, has poured millions of his own dollars into this race, and tonight he wants to hand out million-dollar prizes to some winners.

It's a controversial move he used in last year's election. But tonight, Wisconsin attorney general is taking legal action. And CNN's Arlette Saenz is joining us now live from Green Bay, Wisconsin, with new reporting.

What are you learning, Arlette?

ARLETTE SAENZ, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Jess, it appears that this legal fight is still winding its way through the courts as Wisconsin's attorney general, Democratic Attorney General Josh Kaul, had asked the state Supreme Court to intervene to stop Elon Musk and his super PAC from offering $1 million cash giveaways to attendees at this event, where we are in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

Kaul had asked the Supreme Court to intervene. By the time that this event was starting, and this is about to get underway, so we will see if there's anything that happens in these final minutes. But it all comes as Elon Musk has really intensified his role in this Wisconsin Supreme Court case, as he is looking to try to boost the conservative candidate, Brad Schimel. Elon Musk has poured more than $20 million of his own personal fortune into the race, either directly to the Wisconsin Republican Party or through groups that are aligned with Musk.

And it all comes as Democrats are trying to use this to their advantage. The liberal candidate, Susan Crawford, and her Democratic allies are trying to use Musk's involvement in the race to argue that he is trying to buy a Wisconsin Supreme Court seat. Now, the conservative candidate has said that he has no ties to Musk's money, that Musk is running these things independently of his campaign. But it is something that Democrats are trying to use in this election.

Now, there has been big money coming for the Democratic or the liberal candidate from Democratic donors like George Soros and JB Pritzker, and this race has amounted to the most expensive judicial contest in U.S. history. It's a nonpartisan race, but it's attracted a lot of national attention from each of the parties, as Republicans are hoping to build on President Trump's support here in the state of Wisconsin to help the conservative candidate and Democrats are looking for openings to try to argue against not just President Trump, but also Elon Musk.

Now, this is a battle for a single seat on Wisconsin Supreme Court. And this Tuesday election will determine the ideological balance of that court, which currently has a liberal majority. So all eyes will be on Wisconsin in the coming days as voters are set to make their final decision on Tuesday night.

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And for Elon Musk's part, he is making the trek here to Wisconsin to pitch voters directly about Brad Schimel, that conservative candidate in this race.

DEAN: All right. Arlette Saenz for us in Green Bay, thank you so much for that reporting.

Also developing tonight, New Mexico's Republican Party is blaming a, quote, "deliberate act of arson" for a fire that damaged its state headquarters. Firefighters in Albuquerque say they were called to that building early this morning. No one was hurt, though. Someone did spray paint "ICE equals KKK" on the building. The ATF and the FBI are now both investigating.

Still ahead, another close call at Washingtons Reagan National Airport as a United Airlines flight coming in for a landing hits a kite.

You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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DEAN: Another aviation incident, this one a United Airlines flight hitting a kite last evening while landing at Reagan National Airport.

Authorities say a family was flying that kite at a park just off the runway. That's apparently not allowed. The United 737 was arriving from Houston. It was able to land safely, thankfully, but the incident is the latest in a string of aviation incidents at that airport and Brian Todd is tracking the story for us.

Brian, what more are you learning about this?

BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Jessica, it's just incredible that two months after that deadly collision over Reagan National Airport, where 67 people were killed and Congressional hearings following that incident and the banning of helicopter traffic around Reagan after that incident, we are still learning of safety incidents around Reagan National Airport.

As you mentioned, the latest one coming yesterday, United Airlines telling CNN it is aware of reports that a kite struck one of its incoming jets coming into Reagan. That would have been United Flight 654 coming in from Houston. It would have occurred as the plane was landing at about 4:15 P.M. yesterday afternoon.

Now, United says that the plane landed safely. The passengers deplaned normally that they inspected the plane and that there was no damage to the aircraft. But we've picked this up from air traffic control -- audio from air traffic control, where they warned pilots around that same time of two kites being flown at that same time and around that same area.

Take a listen to the air traffic control audio.

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UNITED PILOT: At the beginning of the runway there is a kite being flown. United 654.

DCA TOWER: Use caution for a kite around short final.

ALASKA PILOT: Alaska 8, thanks.

DCA TOWER: Alaska 8. That kite is about 100 feet right somewhere along the final approach path.

ALASKA PILOT: All right, we'll be looking, Alaska 8.

DCA TOWER: Okay, Bluestreak 5388, we just got a report there is two of them. One is like a bright yellow one.

BLUESTREAK PILOT: Even better. Thank you. Bluestreak 5388.

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TODD: And the Metropolitan Washington Airport Authority telling CNN its police responded yesterday to reports of kite flying at a place called Gravelly Point.

Jessica, you mentioned that in the intro, kite flying is not allowed at that park. It is right next to Reagan National Airport, just off runway 19 there.

Officers warned that individual and briefly confiscated a kite. There was a picture that we have of -- there you go, there's the picture of an officer with a kite in his vehicle, and the officer took the kite from that person, confiscated it briefly, then gave it back. No charges were filed.

But then we have to tell you that today, one of CNN's photojournalist, Manny Climaco, went back to that area, Gravelly Point, and he filmed this video that you're seeing here again, this is today. This is only about 24 hours after that. Take a look at that. A gentleman trying to fly a kite while a plane is coming in low over Gravelly Point.

A police officer then accosted that gentleman, told him to get that kite down and reel it in because kite flying not allowed there.

Jessica, this coming, after we get word of another close call at Reagan National. This was on Friday afternoon where a Delta Plane came very close to a military, an Air Force T-38 fighter jet flying near Reagan National. The fighter jet flying past that plane, going at about 350 miles an hour as the fighter jet was flying around Arlington National Cemetery for a flyover. The FAA investigating that incident.

So, Jessica, two months after that horrible collision, you've got on Friday, a close call between a Delta Airlines plane and a fighter jet. And then yesterday, a kite strike, just astonishing.

DEAN: Yes, all right, Brian Todd, thank you for that update. We appreciate it.

Still ahead, rescuers desperately searching for survivors after the deadly earthquake in Southeast Asia.

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DEAN: More than 60 hours after a massive earthquake struck Myanmar, crews are still trying to find survivors in that wreckage. Often equipped with nothing more than shovels and maybe their bare hands, people are desperately digging through that rubble from the magnitude 7.7 quake.

And amid the devastation, some rare moments of hope. This video shows searchers pulling a man alive from the wreckage in Mandalay City just a short time ago. So far, 1,700 people have been confirmed dead. Officials say that number will likely be much higher. Our Will Ripley now has more.

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WILL RIPLEY, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice over): If hell had a name, it might be Sagaing. Ground zero of Myanmar's worst earthquake in more than a hundred years. Stories and images are just now beginning to trickle out. The destruction, as awful as we imagined. Maybe worse. The heroes are everyday people, like Po Po, a kindergarten teacher. She was with her students when the massive earthquake hit.

PO PO, KINDERGARTEN TEACHER: On that day of the accident, we were able to evacuate all the children. Many children and teachers in some school lost their lives due to the earthquake. RIPLEY (voice over): Po Po's school is in Mandalay, Myanmar's second

largest city. Her home is across the river in Sagaing, a historic city known for ancient pagodas and monasteries. Many of them now in ruins. She says 80 percent of the city is gone.

The old Sagaing Bridge collapsed, cutting off aid, leaving survivors to fend for themselves. Even first responders are powerless. The fire station flattened, trucks crushed beneath the rubble.

About 200 miles away, Myanmar's famed Inle Lake, almost unrecognizable. Entire villages submerged. So many iconic homes on stilts collapsed into the water. Some here wonder if the world has forgotten them.

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In Mandalay, near the quake's epicenter, a moment of hope, "Big Brother, we are coming for you." He says, "We found you. Your heroes are here. After this, we will sit and sip tea."

Against all odds, one life saved. Not everyone is so lucky.

Minutes later, another powerful aftershock. The remaining structure gave way. Just like that. Gone.

In the capital, Naypyidaw, a small miracle.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello. Hold on.

RIPLEY (voice over): Forty-four hours after the quake, rescuers from Singapore pull a survivor from the rubble.

(UNIDENTIFIED MALE speaking in foreign language.)

RIPLEY (voice over): A rare bright spot in the grim search for any sign of life. Hope of finding more buried survivors, all but gone.

Back near ground zero, Po Po says no rescues are happening. Sagaing is almost totally cut off. Survivors are desperate for food, clean water, medical supplies. Every passing hour brings more uncertainty, more heartbreak.

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RIPLEY (on camera): Heartbreak there in Myanmar and more than 600 miles away here in Bangkok, where the painstaking search through this rubble continues with the hope of finding somebody who may still be alive, even though, as the clock ticks, everybody knows the odds are against that -- Jessica.

DEAN: All right, Will Ripley from Bangkok, Thailand. Thank you for that.

And for more information on how you can help the Myanmar earthquake victims, you can go to cnn.com/impact. You can also text the word "quake" to 707070 to donate.

Still ahead tonight, new accusations against Prince Harry. The chairwoman of a charity he helped found is talking about harassment and bullying.

You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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DEAN: We're learning about new accusations against Prince Harry. The chairwoman of the HIV AIDS charity he co-founded has accused the Prince of harassment and bullying after the Prince and others associated with the organization publicly quit this week. CNN's Clare Sebastian has more on the controversy now from London.

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CLARE SEBASTIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, the public spat has now escalated between Prince Harry and the chairwoman of Sentebale, the HIV and AIDS charity he co-founded.

Sophie Chandauka gave a wide ranging interview to Britain's Sky News Sunday, claiming that the Duke of Sussex had tried to oust her for months as chairwoman of the board, accusing him of bullying and harassment, something. A source close to the former trustees of the charity told Sky News was "completely baseless."

Chandauka, also claimed that donors had pulled out of the charity after the Duke left the U.K. and stepped down from Royal duties in 2020, but no one at the charity, she said, felt able to talk to him about the risk his reputation was posing to the organization.

Last week, Prince Harry and his co-founder, Prince Seeiso of Lesotho, announced they were quitting until further notice because their relationship with Chandauka had broken down, "beyond repair."

Chandauka said Sunday, she had no prior warning of this announcement.

DR. SOPHIE CHANDAUKA, SENTEBALE CHARITY CHAIR: At some point on Tuesday. Prince Harry authorized the release of a damaging piece of news to the outside world without informing me or my country directors or my executive director.

And can you imagine what that attack has done for me, on me and the 540 individuals in the Sentebale organizations and their family. That is an example of harassment and bullying at scale.

SEBASTIAN: Neither the Duke of Sussex nor Sentebale have commented on this interview, but a source close to the trustees and patrons of the charity told CNN on Sunday they, "fully expected this publicity stunt and look forward to the adjudication of the truth."

A source familiar with events also denied Chandauka's assertion that the press had been informed about the departures before the charity made the announcement last week, saying they sent her a resignation letter on March 10th. Well, as for the charity that Prince Harry, of course, set up in 2006

to continue his mother, Princess Diana's legacy and help children and young people in Lesotho and Botswana living with HIV and AIDS. Chandauka said, it's work, we'll continue.

Clare Sebastian, CNN, London.

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DEAN: Clare, thank you. And still ahead, a shocking look inside America's fentanyl crisis. Kate Bolduan joins us for a preview of her special report. That's next here in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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DEAN: For the last two years, Kate Bolduan has been on the frontlines documenting America's evolving fentanyl crisis through the eyes of drug dealers, paramedics, active users and a doctor inside a NICU treating the most vulnerable victims, newborn babies who suffer from withdrawal.

And tonight, we have a preview of this new episode of "The Whole New Story."

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Found you overdosed in a parking lot at the gas station, okay. You weren't breathing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Addiction is very painful. It hurts.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I wanted to be clean so bad, but it's just too hard.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My mom found me in the bathroom one time and had to call 911.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She is in severe withdrawal.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why would I bring a kid into this world addicted to drugs?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I thought it was my poor daughter. What happened to you? What happened to you?

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN CO-ANCHOR OF "CNN NEWS CENTRAL": Where are you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where are you? But I knew she was always in there.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's actually more dangerous to stop using if you're already pregnant.

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BOLDUAN: Do people need to be using methadone for life? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'll put one in each cheek, okay.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I have accepted that whatever I have to do to be sober, I'm going to do it.

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DEAN: And Kate joins us now.

Kate, it's so rare that you get two years to spend with a story like this. And so, for you to be able to take it over two years and really follow this, what did you find? And what are going to what are people going to learn about tonight?

BOLDUAN: It's been an extraordinary journey and an opportunity to do this. I mean, what we've really found is, we all know about the fentanyl crisis. Everyone's lives have been touched by it. What we've found though, is how this crisis is now evolving with overall overdose deaths going down, which is good news.

There is now what we found, an increasing number, it is kind of like a new wave of fentanyl survivors, people who are now living with an addiction to one of the most powerful, dangerous drugs out there.

And through and looking at this crisis now and how its evolved through the eyes of people you've really never heard from before. Some of the people who are most stigmatized in this crisis, like mothers who are told, as you heard from the doctor there, Jessica, that they're at more risk getting off the drug, their child is more at risk of them not doing the drug while they're pregnant because of the danger of withdrawal and how severe it could be.

We're hearing from a drug dealer on camera talking about and wanting to talk about what life is like and what life is like for them, some of the people who are most, you know, blamed for this crisis and also the new solutions that they're trying to put in place and finding real hope in, but with all of this, this crisis continues to evolve and there are more challenges and real questions that addicts, families, communities and really society need to face.

DEAN: Yes. As you said, continues to evolve and people can survive, but maybe they are faced with this addiction for the entirety of their lives. And then it starts to affect not just them, but their children. I was really struck. There was another clip I saw the other day from a preview, a longer one in that NICU with the babies and just how they are born. Some of these babies addicted to fentanyl and suffering from withdrawal.

BOLDUAN: From severe withdrawal for some of them. I mean, and the doctors and the nurses that are caring for them are true heroes. And what they have seen is like a threefold-increase in babies who are being born suffering from opioid withdrawal and what the mothers go through in their process. We follow multiple mothers, again, because we had this opportunity for

two years, Jess, we followed them. We met them when they were pregnant. Then they have their children and then we've followed them for some of them two years since and what their journey has been like, and in the process trying to battle this addiction.

I mean, there's a lot of heartbreak and its real and raw and really intense. There's a relapse in real time. But there is hope in this. But with everything, as we know, big problems that society faces. It's not simple. It's very complex and nuanced. And there is so much courage in these people who decided to come forward and talk about it. And it's a way of having a new look at what addiction really is, does and means for families.

DEAN: Yes, and I think a lot of people are going to see their family members, maybe themselves, people they love in some of these stories.

BOLDUAN: Absolutely, and that's a big part of this. We really didn't know where this was going to end up when we began this two years ago. I've never kind of had this process play out like this and really in the last moments in one of our final shoots did we find it, sitting in a parking lot in the Kensington neighborhood in Philadelphia, and you will see it in the documentary at the end of it. And it is -- it's been an amazing journey and I've learned a lot about what addiction really is and what it really isn't, and the impact that it has just on all of us.

And really -- hearing from these people, their families, I mean, there is a lot in here. I'm really looking forward to people just giving it a moment and letting it set in.

DEAN: Yes, it's going to be really powerful. Kate, thank you so much. We're going to be watching.

BOLDUAN: Thanks, Jess.

DEAN: You can watch right now "The Whole Story" with Anderson Cooper. "Fentanyl in America: A Way Out." It is airing next right here on CNN. Stay tuned for that.

In the meantime, thank you so much for joining me this evening. I'm Jessica Dean. We're going to see you right back here next weekend. Have a great night. We'll see you next time.

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