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Second Day Of Manhunt Underway In Shooting Of Minnesota State Lawmakers; Trump Rejected An Israeli Plan To Kill Iran's Supreme Leader; Trump To Depart For Economic And Security Summit In Canada; 2,000-Plus "No Kings" Rallies Held Nationwide Against Trump's ICE Raids; LAPD Deploys Tear Gas During Clash With Protesters; Top Golfers' Final Round Underway At Oakmont. Aired 2-3p ET

Aired June 15, 2025 - 14:00   ET

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FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN HOST: Hello everyone. Thank you so much for joining me this Sunday. I'm Fredricka Whitfield.

We're following two breaking stories at this hour.

On the left of your screen, you're looking at Israel. Well, fresh missile strikes from Iran are happening right now.

And on the right of your screen, a lot of police activity in Sibley County, Minnesota, where police believe they have found the vehicle of the suspect in yesterday's deadly shooting of a state lawmaker and injury of another state lawmaker.

We've got a team of correspondents and analysts covering these developments. CNN's Danny Freeman has just arrived on the scene of this manhunt, the place of activity right now.

Danny, what more are you hearing?

DANNY FREEMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So Fred, let me set the stage for you. Right now. Were here in Sibley County, Minnesota specifically where we are on the side of the road here is about 45 minutes southwest of Minneapolis.

And this is really where the heart of the manhunt for 57-year-old Vance Boelter has really centered for the better part of today. It was earlier this morning -- and I'm going to get out of the way so you can see. You can see there are flashing lights down there. A lot of law enforcement folks have centered on this particular area.

And it was earlier this morning, Fred, that an emergency alert actually went out to all residents of this county saying that the Minnesota shooter's suspect's vehicle had been located right along this road, right where you see those flashing lights down there.

And the suspect, though himself, was not located, but the county urging people to keep doors locked and vehicles secure as they were going, essentially residence to residence to try and see if they could find more information about the suspect.

Now, I've been out here, Fred, and I've been talking to folks because there are a lot of people who actually are not allowed to go back to their homes because there are a lot of police activity out there right now.

And what makes this entire terrain and area challenging is this is pretty much all farmland right here. A lot of corn crops, soybean crops as well.

And there's wooded areas as well with abandoned properties in some parts, according to some of the local residents right here. So we've seen law enforcement officials bring in smaller ATVs and other off- road vehicles to try and basically go through this terrain and see if they can find any more signs of their suspect, Boelter here.

And again, remember, this man is considered to be armed and dangerous. He's the one who allegedly went to two lawmakers' homes early Saturday morning, shot them and also their spouses. And really, there was very little sign of him all throughout the evening yesterday.

This seems to be the most clear new information that has arrived in this manhunt. And again, the main thing is that it's the suspect's car that was confirmed to have been found.

The one last thing I'll note, Fred, is that we learned of a car yesterday morning. There was a police-looking car that the suspect allegedly had in front of one of the shooting sites.

This car right here that was found is a different vehicle from that one that police already apprehended closer to Minneapolis.

We don't have much more information about that specific car, but clearly law enforcement here, they're certain that this is a car that belonged to or was used by the suspect. That's why there's so much of a presence out here.

So we'll stay out here for a while, Fred, and we'll keep you posted as to if we learn more, if they continue to find any more information in this farmland behind me, Fred.

WHITFIELD: So and thank you for clarifying that, because that kind of was going to precipitate my next question, which was the vehicle that was located near the crime scenes where police say they saw the fliers, the manifesto, et cetera, that the suspect was then on foot. At what point is it believed that this suspect got another vehicle, one that, too is being connected to his security company.

FREEMAN: That's frankly a great question, Fred. We learned from law enforcement folks and actually from the roommate of the suspect in this case, Boelter's roommate, that there were cars at one of his homes in Minneapolis. That was the last actual picture that we, the public, have seen provided by the FBI. It was a picture of him with that cowboy hat on.

That came from Minneapolis, and we learned from the roommate that he did have access to other cars there, which kind of explains how police were able to get one car at the shooting site. And then he was potentially able to get another car.

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FREEMAN: We're not 100 percent sure if the car here again belongs to him or not, but also Fred. I think there's still a big question of how did the suspected shooter here get from the crime scene to his home early in the morning and then get access to a car?

So there's still, as you can imagine, a number of questions in terms of the timeline of exactly what led to not just the shooting to the suspect's home, but also to this area here nearly 45 minutes away.

WHITFIELD: All right. Sure. Still a lot of unanswered questions. Still Early in the investigation.

Danny Freeman, thank you so much.

Let's go now to Whitney Wild, who is also covering the developments for us there from Minnesota at one of the crime scenes. What are you learning?

WHITNEY WILD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we want to take a moment to tell you about Representative Melissa Hortman. This is her home. She was the Speaker of the House here in Minnesota. That was a position she held for six years.

She was married. We know her husband also died. She was the mother of two children. And when you come out here and you see, you know what would have otherwise been a normal, peaceful neighborhood, it is just so gut-wrenching, Fredricka.

What you see here at Melissa Hortman's home at this moment is her garage door ripped off, mangled, covered instead with boards, windows boarded up, her front door boarded up. The bits and pieces of what had been an active crime scene, bits of. There's a t-shirt on the lawn.

There are pieces of what were likely mechanical devices that we assume were utilized to try to help save their lives. We know, sadly, that did not happen.

The other thing, Fredricka, that is so chilling is there are still visible bullet holes when you come out here to Melissa Hortman's home. This is just an absolutely gut-wrenching moment. This is, like I said, an otherwise quiet suburban neighborhood that has simply been rocked by unimaginable tragedy.

We are also learning, because of our fantastic CNN investigative team, more about this suspect. What we know is that that the suspect, Vance Boelter, was one of the leaders at a security company, as Danny had just mentioned.

Law enforcement believes, and certainly his career suggests, that that's how he was able to acquire the gear that made him look so much like a police officer, so much so that they believe the other victim in this case, John Hoffman State Senator John Hoffman, opened the door in good faith, believing he really was a real cop.

Again, when the -- when law enforcement came here, this, Fredricka, is the scene of that second shooting. This is where Vance Boelter had that shootout with law enforcement the last time law enforcement saw him in person. So this is a really critical scene in this timeline.

The other thing that our investigative team has learned about him is that he was an Evangelical Christian who had preached all around the world, and according to social media posts and videos that the CNN team has reviewed, he spoke in some sermons really critical of the U.S. embrace of LGBTQ plus rights.

The people who knew him, people that CNN has spoken with and people who have spoken with our affiliate here in Minneapolis and the Minneapolis area, Carol Levin (ph) are absolutely stunned because the man who seems to have, you know, law enforcement says committed these absolute, atrocious crimes is so far from the man they thought they knew.

Here is a friend of his reading the last text message Vance Boelter sent to him. This was, you know, simply hours after this tragedy unfolded. Let's listen.

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DAVID CARLSON, SUSPECT'S FRIEND: He's dead. So I just want to let you know, that I love you guys both. And I wish it hadn't gone This way.

I don't want to say anything more and implicate you in any way because you guys don't know anything about this. But I love you guys. And I'm sorry for all the trouble this has caused.

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WILD: A very small memorial is growing here. We see one woman dropping off flowers right now. Again, this is an unimaginable tragedy here in Brooklyn Park, Minnesota, Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: It is indeed. All right. Whitney Wild, thank you so much.

All right. Let me bring in now, John Miller, CNN's chief law enforcement analyst and intelligence analyst. Great to see you again, John.

You helped us so much yesterday to try to understand things as they were unfolding with real immediacy. And now this investigation is continuing, but it's also taking a few new turns now.

Yesterday we talked about the vehicle where there was a manifesto included being connected to the suspect, as well as some fliers for the "No Kings" day.

And now we're hearing, even though we're seeing vehicles, law enforcement vehicles, seemingly relocate in this location, we have been hearing of another possible vehicle. So what can you share with us about what you're learning from your sources, or extrapolate even perhaps from the images we're seeing?

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JOHN MILLER, CNN CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND INTELLIGENCE ANALYST: Well, so let's break it down as Danny did a little while ago, which is we have the suspect who is engaged in a firefight with police exchanging gunfire, and he has to flee that location in an unplanned way.

He's got his hit list. He's on his second location. He's very likely going to a third or fourth, but he has to flee, which means that police-like vehicle from his security company that was there -- That's what we see being flatbedded (ph) away in this picture. He had to leave that.

That means he had the wherewithal to get 11 miles away somehow into Minneapolis, where there was a picture of him captured wearing that baseball hat.

But it also means that somewhere he obtained another vehicle, and then he was able to get 50 miles away to the place where Danny Freeman is this morning, out in those cornfields on Route 25, at the corner of 301st Street, where that vehicle was located.

Here's what we know. That is the vehicle they suspected he was operating in. It was found in that farmland. We don't know if that is his car or if he went to an associate or a friend and borrowed a car, or if he stole a car.

But we do know that they knew that was a car associated with him, because they zeroed in on it and they were aware of that.

So now let's talk about the geography. We are in the middle of farmland. There is nothing else there. You can see that from these pictures. If you go to the satellite version, you can see miles of farmland with nothing around.

So that tells us something. Either he ran out of gas and abandoned that vehicle there and went on foot -- One possibility.

Second possibility, which is that he met in this out of the way, middle of nowhere location, met with someone else in a second vehicle, one not associated with him. Not known to be with him, and that he has help and he is putting more distance between himself and his crime.

A third possibility is that he drove far away to a place where there would be no one around, that he abandoned the vehicle and began walking into one of these -- one of these fields. It's why police are going house to house, farm to farm, looking to see did he make it inside one of these houses?

Each one of these places has multiple outbuildings, barns and other things. They have to cover all of those locations. Was he wounded when police fired at him even though he was wearing a bulletproof vest. Or did he, as we see in so many of these cases, walk way into the middle of one of those fields and take his own life which is why you see the use of helicopters, of drones, of these ATVs. We're going to be basically doing that grid search, field to field to

see if the person they're looking for who may be on the move isn't moving at all.

WHITFIELD: So I wonder if we could just dive in a little bit more on the kinds of resources that would be used for perhaps that scenario one and three that you mentioned, you know, ran out of gas, car, on foot, or whether, you know, he found himself going as far away as he thought was far away, then going on foot, using any number of places to find shelter in that area.

So you mentioned helicopters in the air. They usually are equipped with some kind of infrared devices. How about dogs? You know, even perhaps people on horseback who might assist in this. What kind of scenario do you envision?

MILLER: All of the above. Helicopters from the air using flare, using heat-sensing equipment to see is there a warm body out there somewhere? Either in one of the outbuildings or one of the fields, or in the woods? The use of drones to be able to fly low over those fields and look for any ground disturbance or any person that might be there.

You bring up dogs, you know they have plenty of material that they can scent from that first vehicle, things he touched, things he wore that would be pretty good for a tracking dog to get into those fields.

So you're going to be using all of those at once. You're also going to be looking inside that car that was abandoned to see if there's anything to get you to the next step.

Fred, one of the things they found yesterday in the vehicle he had to abandon, the black Ford Explorer, was military type gear, but also some survival type gear. The kind of thing that if you were going to be going into the wilderness or the woods might help you. Now, he doesn't have that because it was left behind.

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MILLER: But we also don't know what we don't know, which is it suggests having that gear that he believes that he has those skills and he's had enough time to either replicate that stuff by going and purchasing it somewhere else, or finding -- or finding more.

So that is just adding to the possibilities, which are all still as -- each one is as likely as another right now.

WHITFIELD: All very curious indeed. All right.

John Miller, thank you so much. Whitney Wild and Danny Freeman also joining us earlier in the show here.

All right. We've got other breaking news as well.

New video in to CNN appears to show missiles over air drill, including one hitting the ground there. The death toll from earlier Iranian strikes has now risen to 14. Israel says Iran launched more than 200 rockets in that barrage, and in the central city of Bat-yam, a residential building took a direct hit, killing several people.

Earlier today, Israel's military says it struck an airport deep in Iran's northeast. A refueling plane was hit, sending flames high up into the air, as you see there. And Israels foreign minister told CNN earlier today that the attacks will continue.

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GIDEON SA'AR, ISRAELI FOREIGN MINISTER: We haven't finished our job. We still have objectives which is connected to the missile program, strategic weapons, nuclear program, and we'll continue to work there.

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WHITFIELD: CNN's chief international correspondent Clarissa Ward is in Tel Aviv. Betsy Klein is at the White House for us.

Clarissa, you first. What are you hearing and seeing?

CLARISSA WARD, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Fredricka, hopefully you should have that video that we fed into you from just about 10 or 15 minutes ago when the sirens started wailing and our cameraman, Scottie McWhinnie was able to capture the moments where you could see Iranian missiles, many of them being intercepted by the Iron Dome, but at least one, by our count, that we saw making impact. You could see a sort of bright glow in the distance.

And we are now hearing of a direct hit in the northern city of Haifa. Israel's emergency services are saying that a building there is on fire. They are working at the area to try to rescue people who may still be alive or who may be injured.

We don't yet have any clarity on how many people were killed and where some of those other impacts may have taken place. But this appears to be the first barrage of the evening, so to speak, in what is becoming the new normal for people here.

And I would say it's interesting that it started significantly earlier than the last two nights, when it's been about midnight or 1:00 in the morning before you really see things start to get underway.

Tonight that alert just after 8:00 local time. And again, it's worth underscoring the difference in the impact that these ballistic missiles fired by the Iranians have to what Israel has normally been used to coming under in terms of rockets and mortars and other types of bombardment from Hamas or Hezbollah.

We have been looking at the damage and the destruction and the devastation that these missiles create when they make impact. We visited a town today where a family of four were killed -- a mother, two of her daughters and a relative. And just one little girl survived that attack because she happened to be sleeping in her bedroom, which was the shelter, the most sort of internal safe space in the house. My colleague Nic Robertson also was in Batyam at that large

residential building. Again, six people there were killed when that building took a direct hit.

A number of Israel's leaders visiting the site of that building today, vowing to continue this fight, to continue to bring the fight to Iran.

But understandably, a lot of people across this country and across the entire region really feeling profound anxiety, particularly in the evening hours, which is when we are seeing the bulk of these missile barrages, Fred.

WHITFIELD: Ok. Clarissa, thank you so much.

Betsy, to you at the White House, a U.S. official is telling CNN that President Trump rejected an Israeli plan to kill Iran's Supreme Leader. What more can you tell us about that?

BETSY KLEIN, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: That's right. Well, the White House has been so closely monitoring these back-and-forth missile barrages between Israel and Iran over the past few days, and President Trump has made clear, both publicly and behind the scenes, that he wants the U.S. to stay out of the fray for now.

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KLEIN: Now, the U.S. has been offering Israel defensive support from some of those missile attacks. But we've learned that the president rejected a plan by the Israelis to kill Iran's Supreme Leader, according to a U.S. official.

Now, a second senior U.S. official tells me that Israel actually had the opportunity over the weekend to kill Ayatollah Khamenei and it was communicated by the U.S. that President Trump was opposed to that, and it was not executed.

Now, President Trump has made clear he does not want a prolonged conflict. He's really wary of the U.S. becoming bogged down in another Middle Eastern conflict. He's also very acutely attuned to the changing politics in his own party on this issue.

But sources familiar with the matter tell CNN that Israel has approached the U.S. about potentially getting more directly involved. And there are some in this administration who recognize that the U.S. could help Israel achieve its objectives more quickly.

Now, President Trump, for his part, leaving the door open in a new interview with ABC News' Rachel Scott. He said this morning, quote, "We're not involved in it. It's possible we could get involved, but we are not at this moment involved now."

In that same interview, he told Scott that Russia President Vladimir Putin could also play a mediating role toward ending this conflict.

Now, the president for now is calling on both parties to make a deal, he said in a post this morning, quote, "Iran and Israel should make a deal and will make a deal, just like I got India and Pakistan to make, in that case, by using trade with the United States to bring reason, cohesion and sanity into the talks with two excellent leaders who were able to quickly make a decision and stop."

He went on to say, "We will have peace soon between Israel and Iran. Many calls and meetings now taking place." The president has also indicated the U.S. would get more directly involved if American facilities or personnel in the region were targeted by Iran. Of course, all of this likely to come up at a very high stakes G7 meeting that gets underway tomorrow.

WHITFIELD: And then I wonder, you know, if you can expound on what kind of pressure the president is actually receiving from, you know, his core MAGA supporters, especially as it pertains to this conflict between Israel and Iran.

KLEIN: It's a great question because I think, as I mentioned, the politics here are really changing some of the traditional hawkish Republican policies are now the MAGA wing of the party is saying, let's avoid some of these broader conflicts. Let's keep the U.S. out of involvement, pointing to Afghanistan and Iraq, recent conflicts the U.S. has been involved in as reason for that.

And so, President Trump, trying to make clear here that he understands that faction of his party and is listening.

WHITFIELD: All right. Betsy Klein at the White House, thank you so much.

All right. Still to come, trade deals and international conflicts. What's on the agenda for the G7 summit as President Trump heads to Canada to gather with other world leaders?

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WHITFIELD: All right. In a few hours from now, President Trump will leave the U.S. for Canada, where he will meet with other leaders from the world's seven largest economies at the G7 Economic and Security Summit. The escalating missile strikes between Israel and Iran, and Russia's war on Ukraine will likely dominate these high-level talks. But you can expect trade, especially Trump's tariff threats, to be a major part of discussions.

All right. Let's talk further about all this. CNN's Paula Newton is in Alberta, near where the G7 will be held this week. Paula, good to see you. So for weeks, it wasn't clear that the president would even attend the G7. So what are leaders expecting to hear from him now that he is committed to the entire two-day summit?

PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Fred. And given the reporting you just had.

From the region and also from Betsy Klein, let's keep in mind that it is still significant that the president has decided to stick with the agenda as far as we know.

He's arriving here late this evening and will stay for the full two- day summit. He clearly wants to hear from the other leaders, especially those from Europe, and go into the extended session on day two, where countries like India and Brazil and Mexico will also be there.

Again, a heavy lift here diplomatically, especially in terms of the promise -- the president still really leaning into diplomacy, being able to de-escalate what's going on between Iran and Israel.

Having said that, yes, top of mind still is the economy. And look, the G7 leaders tomorrow will begin with how to expand global growth.

Obviously, the president -- President Trump's trade war top of mind. What's interesting here will be the framing. And that has been led by Prime Minister Mark Carney with a bit of hubris here in the last few weeks, Fred.

And I quote him now in terms of Donald Trump and what he is doing in terms of doing or not doing and world leadership.

"We believe in international cooperation," Mark Carney says. "We believe in the free and open exchange of goods, services and ideas. And if the United States no longer wants to lead, Canada will."

And Fred, he goes further than that in just the last few days saying that, look, everyone should understand not just Canada but European leaders, that Donald Trump is a transformational leader, but also a transactional one.

And again, to quote here, Mark Carney saying there's going to be a price tag at this meeting in terms of G7 leaders that, in his words, Donald Trump will be charging for access to American markets. That is what is on the table.

NEWTON: And it is in terms of lowering expectations, yes, that is true as a consensus group, as a G7. But you want to bet Fred that one on one, so many of those G7 leaders will be looking to get any moment that they can, whether it's in a formal bilateral meeting or just to pull aside with the president to make their case on what they want on a new trade deal with the united states and what is possible.

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Again, a lot on the agenda and highly significant, Fred, that the president is sticking to this agenda and obviously is going to go into these meetings looking to hear what he can from the leaders, agenda and highly significant, Fred, that the president is sticking to this agenda and obviously is going to go into these meetings looking to hear what he can from the leaders, not just on the economy, but also on Israel and Iran.

I want to point out Russia is still a huge sticking point here. The European allies looking to speak about Ukraine, wanting to convince the president that Russia is the aggressor. And yet we have heard from the president just in the last few days. He believes that Russia could be key in helping him de-escalate the situation between Israel and Iran.

A lot to play for here, Fred, and we'll continue to keep an eye on it as the president arrives in just a few hours.

WHITFIELD: Right. Very healthy agenda.

All right. Paula Newton in Alberta, thank you.

All right. Still to come, what strategy does the anti-Trump movement pursue next following the massive turnout at this weekend's No Kings protests taking place across the country?

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WHITFIELD: All right. We're learning new details about the 2,000 "No Kings" rallies scheduled nationwide this weekend. Tens of thousands demonstrated on Saturday against the Trump administrations immigration policies and ICE raids. Law enforcement described the rallies as largely peaceful, with a few violent clashes and arrests in some cities.

Protesters ran for cover in downtown Salt Lake City after gunshots erupted in a crowded street. Police said more than 10,000 demonstrators were at that rally. Three people were arrested. One of them was seriously wounded. Another person also hospitalized with life threatening injuries.

And in Portland, Oregon, police declared a riot after a tense standoff with protesters near an ICE building.

All right. Let's bring in now, CNN correspondent Veronica Miracle, who is live for us in Los Angeles, where city officials say more than 20,000 protesters attended yesterdays No Kings rally.

VERONICA MIRACLE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, it was certainly a big crowd and the mayor, Mayor Karen Bass here in Los Angeles says this curfew has been working and it will remain in effect indefinitely.

Yesterday, those tens of thousands of protesters, they started early in the morning and they were relatively peaceful all throughout the day. It wasn't until the evening when police were trying to enact the curfew. The curfew is about to set in. They were trying to push people out of downtown Los Angeles.

That's when things got a little bit tricky. There were stun grenades, there was tear gas, and there were some confrontations between protesters and the police. There were five arrests made which, considering the size and the scope of the protest yesterday, is really not bad according to -- excuse me -- Mayor Karen Bass, who was flying over the city in a helicopter. She said she saw peaceful protests all throughout the day. Now, in terms of how this is impacting the economy, because remember,

all of this started because of the ICE raids here in Los Angeles, Mayor Bass talked about how it really is negatively impacting Los Angeles. First, we're seeing it just because of the curfews impacted in downtown Los Angeles. The hospitality businesses in the area have been impacted because they've had to be closed, but also the immigrant community is really impacted here. We're seeing ghost towns all throughout, not just Los Angeles but also cities all across L.A. County.

Here's what the mayor had to say this morning.

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MAYOR KAREN BASS (D), LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA: Construction industry cannot function without immigrant labor. Our fashion industry, where there's over 4,000 businesses, looks like a ghost town now. You hear people talking in restaurants all over about how they don't want to go out anymore.

You have people that won't come out of their house because they don't want to buy groceries. You have churches that are on hybrid because people are afraid to go to churches. Why? Because there was an arrest outside a church. So, all of this has created a feeling of fear and terror.

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MIRACLE: So, today, Los Angeles relatively quiet. We'll see how that plays out through the rest of the week. Back to you.

WHITFIELD: All right. Veronica Miracle in Los Angeles, thank you. And we'll be right back.

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WHITFIELD: All right. Welcome back.

We're continuing to follow the latest in Los Angeles, where 20,000 demonstrators took to the streets during a No Kings organized protest this weekend. Five arrests took place in the Los Angeles area. And then there was this tense moment between LAPD officers deploying tear gas after issuing an order for crowds to disperse.

I want to discuss this more now with former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who worked in the Obama administration.

Secretary Napolitano, thank you so much for being with us.

JANET NAPOLITANO, FORMER HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: So what are your thoughts on the Trump administration commandeering 2,000 members of the National Guard, despite the governor's objections that ahead of the demonstrations that we saw in Los Angeles yesterday?

NAPOLITANO: Well, speaking not only as a former secretary, but as a former governor, governor of Arizona, for the president to bigfoot California over the objections of the governor and the mayor, is really (AUDIO GAP). LAPD, Los Angeles Police Department is a huge force. The L.A. County sheriff's office is a huge force. There are 88 other municipalities in L.A. County. All of them have mutual agreements with the city of L.A. to help bring in coordinated local forces to deal with demonstrations and protests.

So, to bring in the National Guard and then to take it one step further and bring in active duty marines, for which this is not their mission and not their training is a -- really not only is it extreme, but it's a terrible precedent.

WHITFIELD: Seven hundred marines has been the reporting. The L.A. mayor, Karen Bass, when she did, you know, a helicopter ride over the city. She said she didn't even actually see the marines. But aside from that, National Guardsmen, they can't detain or arrest.

So, the use (AUDIO GAP) national guard, per the president's request, what do you suppose his mission is?

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How would they be utilized?

NAPOLITANO: Well, for example, when I was governor of Arizona, I deployed to Arizona National Guard to the border to provide backup assistance to border patrol. In other words, to help with administrative paperwork and things of that sort so that the border patrol could focus on their apprehension, responsibilities.

But here, it's very unclear what the mission of the national guard is, because we've also seen reports that they have instructions to accompany ICE agents when they're doing their various raids. And that, of course, raises the risk that they will become actively involved in in those detentions and arrests. So, the mission confusion, the lack of coordination has real operational effects.

WHITFIELD: And then, you know, ahead of all the activity this weekend, on Thursday, when California Democratic Senator Alex Padilla tried to ask a question at Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem's press conference in Los Angeles, he was dragged out. We saw that on videotape, pressed to the ground, even though he identified himself. And you can hear it actually on the tape.

And this morning, he revealed on CNN that an FBI representative actually escorted him into the presser. DHS has given conflicting reasons for why he was treated in the way in which we see, even claiming that Padilla lunged at the secretary and didn't identify himself.

This is the senator this morning on CNN.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. ALEX PADILLA (D-CA): How does the cabinet secretary not know the senator from California when she steps foot into Los Angeles? She came to the Senate for confirmation at one point. And certainly, how does the secretary of homeland security not know how to de-escalate a situation? It's because she can't or because they don't want to. And it sets the tone.

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WHITFIELD: So how do you assess all this and what is the signal being sent in your view?

NAPOLITANO: Well, number one, the secretary should certainly recognize the senior senator from California and the people who were standing with her at the podium, who were from California, certainly should have recognized Senator Padilla.

Secondly, the response by law enforcement at the scene was an overreaction. You know, I've done a lot of pressers, and it's not unusual that you get somebody, you know, asking a question or even a heckler.

Senator Padilla was not heckling. He wanted to ask a question. But you get a heckler and then people from staff or whatever go to the person and they say, let's take that outside and calm the situation down.

In contrast here, they took him out of the room. They put him on his knees. They handcuffed him. So, the overreaction is also notable. And again, it's part of a anti-democratic, small D democratic set of actions we've seen in over the last five months that should give all of us serious pause.

WHITFIELD: Secretary Janet Napolitano, great to see you. Thank you so much.

NAPOLITANO: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: Still to come, lots of frustrations at the Oakmont Country Club, host of this year's U.S. Open. Who's fighting to hold a spot on the leaderboard. A live report straight ahead.

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WHITFIELD: Okay, it's Father's Day and what better way for dad to spend it than watching the final round of the U.S. Open? But many of the big name players, like defending champion Bryson DeChambeau, didn't' make it to the last round because the course is just that tough.

CNN's Patrick Snell joins us now from Oakmont, Pennsylvania.

All right. So, lots of ruffled feathers. But hey, this course is known to be or it's been called kind of the course that challenges your sanity, right? PATRICK SNELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yeah. Hi, Fred. Yeah. And we're

hoping today Oakmont does not become soakmont.

Let's hope the rain stays away, so that we can get this tournament played and finished up. It really is going to be an exciting ending. I do feel today for here at the notoriously difficult course, and a lot of the focus on the overnight leader, the young American player Sam Burns, a young father himself and what a story line it would be.

He's a five-time PGA tour winner, but he is seeking his first career major at the age of 28. Now, in the build up to this tournament, much was made of the fact he's sharing a house with the Scheffler, Scottie Scheffler and family.

And wouldn't it be great for Burns if some of Scottie Scheffler three career majors were to suddenly rub off on him and help him to get his first?

Now, after his third round on Saturday? I asked Burns just what it would mean to win a first career major.

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SAM BURNS, U.S. OPEN ROUND 3 LEADER: It'd be incredible. I think, you know, as a kid growing up, you dream about winning major championships and that's why we practiced so hard and work so hard. And all these guys in this field, I think, would agree that, you know, to have the opportunity to win a major is special. And I'm definitely really excited for tomorrow.

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SNELL: And, Fred, remember the name Philip Barbaree, the young American player and wife Chloe. What a story line. Just the best feel good story line for the weekend in my opinion.

Early Saturday, he had a five-foot putt to make it and he's into the last 36 holes. He would get through to the weekend and he did it a massive career moment and he shares the moment with his wife Chloe, who's on his bag. She is his caddie family as well, reveling in the occasion. This means the world to a player who plays on one of the many tours here in the U.S. and across the Americas in Latin America as well.

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It's a life-changing moment, not just financially, but in terms of his future in the sport. He told me on Saturday, Fred, that he actually almost quit the sport. Time's got so tough for him. Four years ago, he was working as a busboy in his father's steakhouse. So you can just see what this means to both him and his wife, Chloe as well.

And Chloe has a great back story, I will say, because she had no background at all when it comes to the sport of golf. She didn't play golf at all and all of a sudden, she's on her husband's bag as his caddie on a momentous weekend for them both, Fred. WHITFIELD: Yes, what a dynamic duo indeed, on this lovely Father's Day

as well. And Happy Father's Day to you, Patrick Snell. Thank you.

SNELL: You got it, Fred.

WHITFIELD: All right. Still to come, new details in the manhunt after a Minnesota state representative and her husband were shot and killed in their home.

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