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DREW EVANS, BUREAU OF CRIMINAL APPREHENSION: Yes, so this is a partnership. Right now the Brooklyn Park Police Department has lead on the murders that occurred in their city. And we are assisting them as we do as a BCA and communities all across Minnesota, with the assistance of the sheriff's office as well and then those federal agencies.
When we do an investigation like this, it is not uncommon for us to work in partnership with our federal agencies to see if there's an investigation that may lead to federal charges, which is what we're doing. So it is very typical that you would pursue in a murder case, the murder investigation as a state case be charged, and then we'll examine if there are federal charges and we'll have those ongoing conversations, which we are doing right now with the United States Attorney's Office for Minnesota.
And in that case, the FBI is typically the lead agency in that case, unless there is something else that's more specialized, like gun charges, et cetera.
All right. Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE)
EVANS: We should answer this. So this is -- the question is, this has been expanded to South Dakota. And I think that came from, I don't know the specifics, but oftentimes when we're looking for an individual, we will send out information to law enforcement and surrounding states. Yesterday, he certainly had a lot of time to be able to cover a lot of distance. Once we knew that he had escaped from the crime scene.
We believe that information was shared just like we would share in Minnesota if somebody was coming. This happens on a regular basis, that it was shared out for their law enforcement to be on the lookout. They call it a BOLO, to be on the lookout for the individual. And we believe it was there. We were never tracking and believing the individual went to South Dakota as an investigative team.
Thank you. Thank you all. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. Happy Father's Day for the dads. Thank you.
JESSICA DEAN, CNN HOST: OK. It is the top of the hour here in New York. It is 7:01 on the East Coast, 6:01 there in Minnesota where we just heard the latest from officials in Minnesota where they said that at this point there is no indication that that suspect was working with anyone other than himself. They gave an update on finding evidence in that car, as our John Miller had reported earlier.
I do want to bring in John right now.
John, as we listen to all of that, I thought one of the more kind of, you know, this was so true. The idea, he said there, you know, everyone wants an easy answer to what is probably a complex problem, a complex case that they're clearly trying to work at. As you said and analyzed not a very short time ago, you said this day is just kept coming at them. And he said, this has been a really fluid day.
They've had over 400 tips. They've been trying to run down, while at the same time trying to process this new vehicle. What else stood out to you as you were listening to that update?
JOHN MILLER, CNN CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND INTELLIGENCE ANALYST: You know, Jessica, I was trying to get through the inventory of because a lot was asked and a lot was said, but there wasn't an awful lot that we didn't know that came out. So let's try and go through the things that give us some direction.
One, what he said is that, you know, the thing in Sibley County was they discovered a vehicle, and I'm quoting now, we had interest in. That means that we didn't learn the answer to the question of, was that one of his own cars, or was that a car he got from a friend, or was that a car he stole? We still don't have that granularity, but we know that it was already on their radar it appears before it was found on the side of the road.
He confirmed that a cowboy hat, like the one he was seen wearing in the pictures in Minneapolis hours after the shooting, was found with that car. But he also said other items were found in the car that they're interested in. So, yes, that car is something that they knew about before. It appears that was connected to the suspect they believe, and that had more things inside that will give them information.
Now that begs a question. More things inside. Well, what were they? And more importantly, why didn't he take them with them?
DEAN: Yes.
MILLER: If he had, for instance, somebody pick him up and switch into a car that would not have been on their radar. So those are still open questions. He confirmed that. And we had seen these reports through the day that his wife and other family members were stopped in a traffic stop by police. That suggests that when they got in a car and moved out together, that it's likely that, and this wouldn't be unusual, that perhaps a surveillance team watching the house said, well, where are they going? And let's do a stop and ask some questions. But he also said they were very cooperative and answered their questions and that no, no one was in custody or taken into custody because they were cooperative.
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So the last point was that the thing that we refer to as a manifesto was actually a notebook, that it had various writings in it, but it also had what they believed was the kill list, the hit list, which was not just names, but also addresses and other details about people from the political sphere. And as we reported yesterday, this is what was said today from the sphere of pro-choice, abortion and medical clinics.
So that is pretty much what we picked up there. The main message of the press conference was to the public, if you see him say something, call us, report it, and give them a number of ways to do it.
DEAN: Yes, no doubt about it. Were you surprised they said at this point there's no evidence of prior threats? Did that surprise -- from this suspect. Did that surprise you at all?
MILLER: So no, not really, because we have been peeling back layers and layers and layers of Vance Luther Boelter in the last 24 hours. And what we see is an individual with a big presence. He is a preacher. He's in churches. He's an international figure. He's traveling to Africa, to foreign countries. He claims to the Middle East. He's involved in security, but we don't really see any evidence that that business ever really took off, his security business.
He's got a doctorate in leadership and a degree in business. But we see outside of managing a 7-Eleven and a couple of food related jobs, one in a sausage company, he never really excelled there. So we developed this picture of a person with big hopes and big dreams and a big presence who doesn't appear to be making it. And we see in some of these cases in that profile of somebody who's not making it and failing and then does two things.
They tend to blame a whole host of other people for their problems, and then they tend to lash out in a way that will give them that notoriety, that will make them that big person. And this could well be one of these things. He was suffering from financial difficulties, perhaps emotional problems, and certainly not meeting his own expectations for what life was going to deliver to him, and decided to adopt a cause, adopt a manifesto, if you will, and strike out.
We see that a lot in these cases where people suddenly go from being law-abiding, normal, respected citizens, in this case someone who served on a labor board to being suspected of being a spree killer, who was interrupted in mid-spree.
DEAN: Yes. It is quite an arc. John, stay with us. I believe we've got Juliette Kayyem with us and Ed Davis as well. Are they here with us? OK. And we've got Whitney Wild. We've got everyone here. OK. This is great.
Whitney, let's go first to you because you were in the room when this was happening. John just walking us through some of the more detailed pieces of this information. Give everyone kind of the 30,000 foot view at this point, as you've been covering this all day.
WHITNEY WILD, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CORRESPONDENT: Well, at this point, law enforcement is making very clear he is not in custody and that is the number one goal. And so, again, as you had said, as John Miller had said, police really want the public to look at his photo, remember what he looks like, call in the tips.
Law enforcement says that they have already received 400 tips. They want more. It just takes that one tip to help them really shift the landscape here and zero in on where Vance Boelter might be at this moment.
We talked a lot on CNN today about the vehicle that law enforcement found on the side of the road in Sibley County, Minnesota. That's a county that's about 50 miles southwest of Minneapolis. And when law enforcement said about that without saying whether or not that was his vehicle, if it was a stolen vehicle, a friend's vehicle, they said that that was a vehicle they had been interested in since yesterday morning.
And so there was information that led them to that vehicle. And the question was, is he on foot or has he somehow found another mode of transportation, an e-bike, another vehicle? So basically, law enforcement said all options are on the table. It is -- they do not know at this moment how he is moving around the area. And so what you saw earlier today was quite a few law enforcement officers moving through the fields by that car, moving through the forest by that car.
There are many questions to answer here. But, you know, just from, again, like you said, the 30,000 foot view that sort of housekeeping items there is at this moment a nationwide warrant for his arrest.
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There is also a federal warrant for him for unlawful flight to avoid prosecution. What they made very clear today is every single person with a badge and a gun in this state and beyond is on high alert to find this guy. They listed a long list of agencies, the Marshals, the ATF, the FBI, the Minnesota State Police. Again, everybody with a badge and a gun in Minnesota that has a job to try to find this man was what law enforcement made clear.
The other things that came to light today was, again, as you said, as John Miller has been reporting so well as he always does, is that there was evidence that was relevant to this investigation found in that car in Sibley County, Minnesota. There were many questions that were asked. Some law enforcement simply couldn't answer. You know, for example, you know, if he was -- if he's getting help from anyone, they say all options are on the table, Jessica.
So, you know, quite a few questions to work through. They don't have any indication that he is getting help, but they say all options are on the table. And then whether or not he had stopped at anyone else's house prior to going to Senator John Hoffman's house, or Representative Melissa Hortman's house. There were other individuals identified in that list, but law enforcement was not able to get into the specifics of whether or not he had visited other elected officials' homes prior to actually shooting Senator John Hoffman and his wife, and, as we know, shooting and killing Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark.
Again, and then finally, I know we've been talking a lot about this manifesto. John Miller said. And just to recap, the manifesto is it's a bit of a misnomer. What they're saying really is that this is a list of names, a list of potential targets, and then a notebook with other, you know, thoughts, other musings. And so at this point, law enforcement still not defining in great detail the motivation here.
Many more questions to answer, Jessica. And then finally, I'll leave you with this. Law enforcement did interact with his wife yesterday. They said that she was cooperative and they, she and others that were with her were able to go. So that was a big question about, you know, why were they able to leave. Law enforcement saying simply that they were cooperative. They provided the information that was requested, and then they were allowed to leave -- Jessica.
DEAN: OK. Whitney Wild with the very latest from Blaine, Minnesota. Please stand by, Whitney.
Juliette, I want to talk to you. As is so often in these conversations when authorities are looking for people, and you and I have a conversation, we start talking about the time of day when it gets to be later in the day, because the sun is going to go down soon. And we know based on what they were telling us, that they're not sure exactly what his mode of transportation is. As our reporters have been laying out, this is a very rural area. It is very spread out. And once they lose the light, that does always complicate things.
JULIETTE KAYYEM, CNN SENIOR NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: Yes, it does. This was an interesting, I mean, you're exactly right. Part of it was it's going to be nighttime and we're going to wake up the next day. This press conference was very interesting because it was, as John was saying, you know, sort of there isn't really anything new in it. There were some clarifications and sort of repeats and then discussions of what the case should be.
But this was more of a, OK, the weekend is over kind of press conference, which is people are going to bed tonight and life gets back to normal on a Monday. This will be the first workday tomorrow. Do people leave their homes? How safe should they feel? People who work in government, mayors, state senators, state legislators, you know, they've got to be feeling very, very stressed out right now.
There's two communities, if not a whole state, in mourning. So in many ways, this was a, you know, sort of a little bit of sort of a tough message, which is we don't have him yet. We are hopeful because all hands on deck. But Monday is coming. And most of you, because there's no real lockdown, are going to be out and about. And here's what we're doing to protect you. So I thought that was one audience, which is sort of the Monday back to reality in some ways audience.
The other was the sort of political audience. More than once these speakers spoke to the hatred and the ideology and the ickiness that a lot of us are seeing online, and the political comments about who likes whom. And they were just sort of saying, you know, honestly, like, there are children without parents today and there are dead people who, you know, a woman who served her state nobly.
And I just thought that that was a key part of the theme as people online, as politicians, as are trolling each other or trolling Governor Walz. It's not a pretty time. I've been doing this a long time for you all.
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I mean, you know, there used to be, you know, a couple of days before the politics like this seeped in. And I thought that these speakers from the locality were saying, you know what, these are human beings. And let's remember that. And at least half a dozen occasions, they reminded the rest of us that is actually the reality of this horror.
DEAN: Yes. And there is just so much grief in that community. And as you mentioned, for that family, too.
Ed, Juliette mentioning how we now make the turn to Monday, kind of what that means for the community at large, but also, too, I'm curious for law enforcement. They have been operating at full tilt now for 48 hours, you know, a long time. How long can they keep going at this pace? What kind of toll does that take?
ED DAVIS, FORMER BOSTON POLICE COMMISSIONER: Right. The intensity of this cannot be understated. I can recall people on the SWAT team having to be ordered to go home just to get a few hours rest in between the multi-day incident that we were managing. Nobody wants to leave this chase. They want to stay on this until they get the person. And so the secretary of public safety made reference to the fact that it's been an all-out campaign, and this will continue until there's some resolution to it.
Managers will attempt to get people to take care of themselves. But the intensity is amazing. And they will run down every lead. The humanity of it was well-described by Juliette. But the truth of the matter is, there's a job to be done here, and the officers who are out there in pursuit of this suspect are moving from place to place, most likely from state to state. And the longer the time goes by that he's not in custody, the farther away that circle of attention begins to grow.
Is he going to Canada or is he trying to get to Mexico? Is there some other plan? He has to lay low someplace. He does not want to be in that area. That is an intensely hot area for him, and I'm sure he's smart enough to know that.
DEAN: All right. I want to thank all of you for being here. Thank you so much for adding to our coverage. We really appreciate it. We are going to continue to stay on all updates coming out of
Minnesota. We are also going to turn our attention to the Middle East, where Israel is bracing for a new round of incoming missiles from Iran. We're going to take you live to Tel Aviv. That's next.
You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.
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DEAN: And tonight, Israelis are bracing for a new round of missile strikes from Iran. Residents receiving an early warning alert earlier tonight saying missiles could be incoming and to stay near bomb shelters. Now all of this is happening as the Israeli military says it is striking a missile launch sites in Iran.
CNN's Clarissa Ward is live in Tel Aviv tonight.
Clarissa, I know you all are on the lookout for that incoming round. What more can you tell us?
CLARISSA WARD, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, so normally, Jessica, when you have that pre-alert, they basically tell you that in the next 15 to 30 minutes, you're probably going to get a secondary alert, which means that you need to go ahead and get yourself to a shelter. It's been well over an hour now, though, since that initial preliminary alert, and we haven't yet had the follow up secondary time to get to a shelter alert.
So all of this is really giving rise to speculation that, you know, Israeli Air Force is essentially bombing those missile launch pads inside Iran, and that perhaps because they are doing that, they have effectively prevented those missile launches from taking place.
Now, they haven't issued the all-clear yet here in Israel. So it's also entirely possible that there will be more missiles throughout the night, but nonetheless interesting, significant, and definitely a departure tonight from what we have seen on previous evenings, whereby you get that initial warning saying to get close to a shelter and then you get another warning telling you to get into the shelter, and then quite soon after that we have been hearing regular barrages of incoming Iranian ballistic missiles.
We did hear earlier on in the evening, some being intercepted, at least one made landfall in Haifa. At least four people, according to Israeli emergency services, injured there and some fire in at least one building. We don't have any more information about specific casualties regarding that, but so far, I would say, Jessica, that it's a significantly quieter night tonight than what we have seen in the previous two nights.
DEAN: All right. All right. Clarissa Ward with the very latest. We will check back in with you. Thank you so much for that reporting.
And joining us now is CNN political and global affairs analyst and Axios correspondent Barak Ravid.
Barak, always good to have you on. What are you hearing from your sources tonight?
BARAK RAVID, CNN POLITICAL AND GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: I think, as Clarissa said, it seems that the fact that the Israeli Air Force has overall full aerial superiority above the Iranian sky allows it to really hunt down all those rocket launchers and missile launchers and make it very hard for the Iranians to conduct those missile launches.
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And it's quite extraordinary that after only three days that this is -- this only started on Friday morning. And the Iranians already have very hard time launching a wide ranging and coordinated barrages at Israel which means that every day that passes, it will get even more difficult and more difficult for them, until the point that it will be almost close to impossible for them to launch missiles without being hunted down by Israeli fighter jets.
DEAN: And we're learning tonight about this plan, this Israeli plan to kill Iran's supreme leader. This is something we know that President Trump did not want to participate in. What do you know about this plan? And is he still a potential target for Israelis?
RAVID: So I think maybe a plan is a bit big of a word for it. And there are conflicting versions about this thing. According to U.S. officials, after Israel launched its war against Iran on Friday, the Israelis raised with U.S. officials the possibility of assassinating the Iranian Supreme Leader Khamenei. And in response, the White House communicated to the Israelis that President Trump opposes such a move.
The Israelis, both Prime Minister Netanyahu and his national security adviser, completely denied that. The Israeli national security adviser called it complete fake. At the same time, I think that, at least as far as I know, over the planning of this war, during over time, when this war plan went, you know, through the process of being approved, it was definitely one of the things that Israel considered to start this war by trying to assassinate Khamenei.
I heard that from at least one Israeli official. This does not mean that this was the plan the last few days. I think there's still a lot of things that we don't know. And also, I think that a lot of the things that we're hearing in the last few days from both the Israeli government and Trump administration, a lot of it has to do with messaging to the Iranians. One of the things that U.S. officials said today is that the reason that Trump is opposed to Israel assassinating Khamenei is because Iran hasn't killed -- haven't killed any American citizen, which is a strange statement due to the fact that Iranian -- that Iran over the years killed many Americans, and at least from what Israeli officials understand from that is that this is a message to the Iranians.
If you do target Americans now, then Khamenei might become a target for the U.S., or the U.S. will allow Israel to go ahead and kill him.
DEAN: And so to that end, Barak, what is the current thinking and the current state of play around the U.S.'s role in all of this?
RAVID: It's a very good question. What we do know for a fact is that, A, the U.S. is actively engaged in defeating Iranian missile launchers. That's something that even President Trump acknowledged today before he left for the G7 Summit in Canada. What we also know, and I heard it from both the Israeli and U.S. officials is that Israel urged, still urges, the Trump administration to join the war.
And the reason it wants the Trump administration to join the war is to take out the highly fortified nuclear enrichment facility in Fordow, the facility that is buried deep under a mountain, and that Israel does not have the bombs or the strategic bombers to take it out. This is why it needs the U.S. For now, U.S. officials are telling me that this is not being considered, but I think the emphasis is about -- the emphasis is on for now and what will happen tomorrow, you know, nobody is ruling out anything.
DEAN: All right. Barak Ravid, thank you so much. And we are going to keep following all the developments out of the Middle East as they come in.
Stay with CNN. We're going to be right back.
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DEAN: Los Angeles has largely become the epicenter of President Donald Trump's immigration crackdown and the growing resistance against it. But after a week of protest, what comes next?
CNN senior political analyst Ron Brownstein is joining us now.
Ron, you are there in Los Angeles, and you've covered immigration for years and watched the last week unfold as well. How do you see things today and where they might be going there?
RON BROWNSTEIN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Yes, very mixed signals, right, from the administration. On the one hand, you have Kristi Noem, saying immediately before Senator Padilla was tackled and handcuffed, saying we are going to stay as long as it takes to liberate the city from its political leadership. And you've have Trump using that language of liberation as almost as if L.A. is an occupied territory.
On the other hand, we have the reporting, which seems accurate that complaints from the hotel and restaurant and agricultural industries have persuaded Trump to narrow the focus of the raids.
This will be, you know, a big week legally, at the same time as we kind of wait to see where the administration goes next on the ground. We had that decision last week by the brother of former Supreme Court Justice Breyer basically saying the administration did not meet the criteria for federalizing the National Guard in the 1903 law. They are using the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals stay that decision, but they are going to be considering that this week and I believe Judge Breyer is going to be considering the underlying cases. [19:35:47]
So, it's a significant week, I think, both legally and kind of on the ground, the kind of points in the same direction. How far can Trump go in this direction? Because as you accurately point out, I think L.A. is very clearly meant to be a template and what happens here is not meant to stay here, but ultimately be to applied to other big blue cities with large undocumented populations.
DEAN: Right, and I think to that point, that's why so many people are focusing in on what's going on there and you have to think that other blue state governors are watching this play out as well.
BROWNSTEIN: Yes, I mean, you know, at the hearing -- there was a hearing last week from the House Oversight Committee in which the governors -- Democratic governors of Minnesota, Illinois and New York were kind of grilled by the Republicans on the committee.
One Republican from Alabama suggested that the Department of Justice should prosecute all three of those governors because of their state laws limiting cooperation with ICE. So, you know, clearly, this is something that I think the administration very much is trying to build a template in Los Angeles in two respects.
One, is this idea of arresting elected officials. We've already seen a mayor, a U.S. representative, a judge, a labor leader arrested all on the grounds of allegedly impeding the enforcement of immigration law through their physical actions. I think that what you saw from that representative last week was an attempt to push that to the next level of basically saying they could be arrested for their policy choices, as well, you know, Stephen Miller constantly tweets about Democrats aiding and abetting an invasion, which certainly sounds like language, designed to support charges.
And then you have the other kind of prong, which is being forged in California, which is the militarization. I mean, the administration's position is that they do not need the Insurrection Act in order to embed National Guard and even Marines into the routine enforcement of immigration law.
This goes way beyond, Jessica, defending buildings. This is about providing convoys and then security on the ground as ICE agents conduct raids and that is obviously a very different vision of how both ICE operates and how the military operates.
And again, I don't think -- I think if the litigation goes the way the administration wants, I think it's highly unlikely this is confined just to Los Angeles.
DEAN: All right, more to come on this. Ron Brownstein, thanks so much for being here with us.
BROWNSTEIN: Thanks for having me.
DEAN: Rising tensions in the Middle East will be front and center as world leaders gather in Canada. You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.
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DEAN: President Trump is about to step back onto the world stage at the G7 Summit in Canada. While he may be looking to make some trade deals looming large over the meeting, of course, will be the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran. Trump saying a short time ago the U.S. will continue to support Israel as it defends itself from incoming strikes.
Meantime, CNN chief data analyst Harry Enten is here to run the numbers. -- hi, Harry -- on the G7 and much more. So, how are other G7 countries shifting their stances on the U.S. since Trump's election back in November?
HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: Yes, I think this opening slide kind of gets at it why Trump faces a tough room at the G7. Take a look at these numbers. I mean, you rarely see trends like this but it's apparent right here on the page. Confident the U.S. President will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs.
You go back to 2024 the non-U.S. G7 countries, 47 percent said they were confident the U.S. President would do the right thing. Look how much lower that number is now, Jessica, it's down to 27 percent.
What we're talking about is 73 percent of the countries, at least on the medium, had no confidence -- no confidence that Donald Trump will, in fact do the right thing when it comes to world affairs.
Quite a different picture between when Joe Biden was President back in 2024 to when Donald Trump is President in 2025. The amount of confidence in the U.S. to do the right thing, at least when it comes to the U.S. President, has absolutely fallen through the ground -- Jessica Dean.
DEAN: Okay, so let's break this down then by individual country. How would it look?
ENTEN: Yes, okay. So, that no confidence -- I mentioned that 73 percent who had no confidence in Trump. Get this, no confidence, Trump will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs, look at this. I got the six other G7 countries that are not the United States on the page here.
Germany 81 percent, no confidence; Canada 77 percent; France 78 percent, Italy 68 percent; the U.K. 62 percent and then Japan 61 percent, 18 only 18 percent; only 18 percent of Germans actually have confidence in Donald Trump to do the right thing when it comes to world affairs, but all six of these countries, we're looking at clear super majorities, super majorities, 60 percent or more, who have no confidence that Donald Trump will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs. And Germany beats them all at 81 percent and Canada, traditionally,
which had been quite an ally of the United States, you see that 77 percent have no confidence that Donald Trump will do the right thing when it comes to world affairs. It is a route in the no confidence column -- Jessica.
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DEAN: Yes, those numbers are telling quite a story. Okay, so let's talk about the host country in particular, of course, Canada that has been at the center of this tariff negotiation and so much of the back and forth. Do Canadians even want a trade deal at this point?
ENTEN: I'm not really quite sure that they do, Jessica. Take a look here, this is a poll of Canadians. I'm reducing reliance on the U.S. As a trade partner. Get this 91 percent -- 91 percent of Canadians want to reduce reliance on the U.S. as a trade partner.
DEAN: Wow.
ENTEN: Just nine percent disagree. I mean, I'm laughing because the idea that you could get nine and ten. Actually more than nine and ten of residents of a country to agree on something, and they agree that they want to reduce reliance on the U.S. as a trade partner that just tells you the deep doo-doo that Donald Trump is in if he wants to make a trade deal with these different countries.
Canada in particular, there just is not that support among these different leaders of these different countries and in Canada, oh my goodness gracious.
DEAN: Ninety-one percent, we rarely see that number when you do these sorts of things.
Okay, one last topic here, NBA finals are happening. I hear you're trying something different to find out if the Pacers or the Thunder win, what might that be?
ENTEN: You know, I rely on polls sometimes, I rely on betting markets sometimes, but sometimes I just look from a sign of above. And this to me is a sign from above. I'm going to try astrology for a change, okay. Who does astrology favor? Well, astrology favors the Thunder in the 2025 NBA finals. Astrology has never wavered in this. Even when the thunder were down and why is that?
Because of Jupiter's transit into cancer favors teams who are nurturing and play like family and the Oklahoma City Thunder play like family -- Jessica Dean.
DEAN: Wow, I didn't think we'd go to astrology, but hey, let's see if it works.
ENTEN: We'll see if it works.
DEAN: I like it, okay, Harry Enten, thanks so much.
ENTEN: Thank you.
DEAN: We'll see you again soon. We'll be right back.
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DEAN: Tonight, American teams are in India helping investigate the worst aviation disaster in a decade. Officials from the National Transportation Safety Board and the FAA are surveying the site of the Air India crash on Thursday. The London bound Air India jet crashed shortly after takeoff, killing at least 271 people. Dramatic video posted online captured the sole survivor of that plane crash as he limped his way toward an ambulance with a bloodstained shirt. That survivor later spoke to a reporter.
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VISHWASH KUMAR RAMESH, SOLE SURVIVOR OF AIR INDIA PLANE CRASH (through translator): Everything happened in front of my eyes. I don't believe or know how I survived. For some time, I thought I was also going to die. But when I opened my eyes, I realized I was alive, and I tried to unbuckle myself from the seat and escape from where I could. It was in front of my eyes. The air hostess and others died.
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DEAN: Incredible, meanwhile, the Indian government is urgently inspecting all Boeing 787s operated by Indian carriers -- in all, that is 34 planes. Joining us now, aviation safety expert, David Soucie.
David, thanks so much for being here with us. Multiple teams on the ground now. Obviously, they have a lot to sift through. What are they going to be focusing on?
DAVID SOUCIE, CNN SAFETY ANALYST: A couple of things they'll focus on right away is this new information that the Ram Air Turbine was deployed? We couldn't see it before due to the quality of the video but the video now shows clearly that the Ram Air Turbine deployed, which tells us a couple of things. It could have been a dual engine failure, at which point this turbine comes out to make sure that they have electrical power and hydraulic power or it could have been a massive electrical failure that caused it as well.
So, the more to look at there but I would first check that black box, which is going to have a lot of information in it, and it's going to really tell us what happened here.
DEAN: Yes, and I'm also curious what you think this means for both Boeing and Air India. Both companies have been trying to rebuild trust, Boeing with production and safety issues. Air India has been revamping and modernizing its fleet. What does it mean for these two companies?
SOUCIE: Well, you're right, there's a lot of challenges that they've been facing, and were going to have to find out what the answers are. But right now you can see that Boeing stocks have dropped quite dramatically right away. And the fact that they're asking for safety inspections on all of their 787s right now, I'm not sure what they're going to be looking for yet, though.
Typically, you'll wait until after you know what the actual cause was before you start these safety inspections, which they don't know right now. So, I think it's a little bit premature, but maybe ineffective because they don't know what they're looking for right now. So, they're just doing general inspections, which they do on every flight.
So, trying to now build that trust with Air India that they've had some issues with, with their new CEO now trying to build that forward, they've invested $400 million in improving their image, improving their product. And so, this is going to be a major setback for them and depending on what's found here, especially with this new news about the RAT that's been deployed, Boeing is going to have to answer a lot of questions right now, again.
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DEAN: And David, just this idea of this sole survivor, I think everyone is so struck by that. What did you think?
SOUCIE: Oh, it's just fascinating to me because throughout my career, typically, what I think or say to people is that the seats in the rear are the safest seats during an accident. In this case, I've proven wrong because he was just ahead of the wing spar -- the major wing spar.
Now, this can be a very safe place as well, because it went down in a flat mode. If it had gone down nose first, it would have had a different outcome. But because he was just ahead of or just on top of the wing spar, that's the heaviest part of the aircraft. So when it hits the ground, its moving forward, it doesn't just break loose. It moves forward.
So, I think the fact that he was in the proximity of that forward wing spar is what saved his life and allowed him to not get the impact directly on him. So, it is miraculous.
DEAN: Truly, David Soucie, great to see you. Thanks so much.
SOUCIE: Thank you, Jessica.
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