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Aired July 27, 2025 - 15:00   ET

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ANNOUNCER: This is CNN Breaking News.

ISABEL ROSALES, CNN HOST: Hello and thank you for joining me. I'm Isabel Rosales, sitting in for Fredricka Whitfield. We continue to follow breaking news on a major trade deal secured with the European Union. Just a short time ago, the President emerged from a high-stake trade meeting with E.U. leaders and announced the two sides have reached the framework for a landmark deal. It comes just days before Trump's massive 30 percent tariffs were set to kick into place for European imports if a deal wasn't reached.

Now, Trump says those countries will pay a 15 percent tariff and have vowed to purchase hundreds of billions of dollars in U.S. products and investments.

CNN's Jeff Zeleny joins us now live from Scotland.

And, Jeff, the President said that the deal with the European Union is, "the biggest deal" ever made, and that deal apparently solidified in a one-hour meeting. Tell us more.

JEFF ZELENY, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Isabel, certainly, finalized in a one-hour meeting, but this has been something the negotiations, we are told, have been really underway for months, ever since the President in May threatened a 50 percent tariff rate, then dialed it back to 30 percent.

Now, this puts it back to 15 percent, so much higher than European Union nations would have originally liked, but of course not as high as was threatened by the United States, but this does avoid a transatlantic trade war and European Union member countries were threatening to retaliate against the United States as well. So that is not going to happen.

Now the announcement came at the Trump Turnberry Golf Resort just a short time ago. Let's listen.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I think we both wanted to make a deal. You know, you said something that is very important, it is going to bring us closer together. I think this deal will bring us very close together, actually, sort of -- is a partnership in a sense, but it is a very good point and it is something that's very important.

And the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, was sitting there next to President Trump. She said that this will bring stability and certainty to European Nations. Of course, the Eu is an organization that represents some 27 member nations. Now, each of them will be dissecting this and getting details.

Details are very scant in this, so that is something we will be learning in the hours and days to come. But the E.U. member countries have agreed to a purchase U.S. military equipment and energy as well, adding to the bottom line of this deal. But look, the bottom line of this, this is a major deal, there is no doubt, because the E.U. is America's largest trading partner, some $1.7 trillion of commerce was at stake here. So it is a superlative, but it is an accurate one, the largest deal reached yet, and it follows in line of other deals the government has reached with Japan and the U.K. as well.

ROSALES: Jeff Zeleny, thank you.

Let's bring in Diane Swonk. She is the chief economist for KPMG.

Diane, really appreciate your time. Let me start by getting your reaction to this framework trade deal with the E.U. and locking in that 15 percent tariff on European imports, including cars that Trump called the biggest deal ever made. What do you think?

DIANE SWONK, CHIEF ECONOMIST, KPMG: Well, I think what is important is we are starting to finally get some certainty about what the end game on tariffs will be. That's very important. There still is some sector tariffs out there that are in the pipeline, everything from semiconductors to copper and lumber are still getting ready to be launched as well.

But this is very important to start getting a sense of where companies can reshuffle their supply chains, how they can deal with the tariffs and how much will have to be ultimately absorbed.

That aspect of uncertainty to some level of certainty, is one of the reasons why we've seen financial markets, whenever these deals, even though they're not yet signed and they're not ironclad, relief rally come out in financial markets because there is just this sense of, it is a moving target. So to have a target and to know what the actual tariffs are is very important.

ROSALES: So you think the markets will be in the green due to the stability and the sigh of relief?

SWONK: We could see a relief rally. What I worry about is that financial markets are not pricing in the actual cost of these tariffs to the bottom line and to consumers.

[15:05:10] It takes about six to 18 months for the full effects of tariffs to kick in. So we are only at the beginning edge of these tariffs kicking in, and we are talking about moving tariffs from an effective rate of below three percent to still with this deal that we've heard today above or close to 20 percent, that is a stunning increase in tariffs by year end. We have mitigated them a bit with stockpiling and many of the things on store shelves have yet to reflect tariff prices because they were stockpiled and bought ahead of tariffs. Those are still in the pipeline.

So I worry that the financial markets have been a little bit complacent in terms of what this actually means for the overall economy, everything from employment to prices to the costs of doing business.

ROSALES: Yes, let's dig in on that impact a little bit more, what that would look like for the average American here, even if it takes months to see this realized out. What would that look like to see the sudden jump in European products? Because a reminder, it is the importer that pays for these tariffs. What would that look like for the average American?

SWONK: Well, you know, there is a lot of uncertainty about that, which is why the Federal Reserve is going to be so divided. We do expect to see a bump of at least a percentage point in the CPI and in the overall inflation measures before this is all over, maybe even a little bit more than that, and that is unwelcome news to price levels that are still high and consumers that are still feeling the sting of the burn of the earlier pandemic-induced inflation.

Another key issue is whether or not the administration decides to move forward with ideas that it has floated of giving rebates on checks of the tariff revenues that they're collecting, that sort of recycling of funds would only amplify the inflationary effects of these as well. So it still has a stagflationary nature to it, because it squeezes profit margins and boosts prices. It just takes time for all those effects to show up.

And the uncertainty on that time frame is one of the reasons why you're likely to see a dissent at the Federal Reserve, at least one, if not two, dissents among the Board of Governors who would like to cut in July, not because the economy is so strong, but they're arguing with Governor Waller has argued, is that he worries that the damage to demand and the labor market is too great to risk, and that he thinks the bump in tariffs will be temporary.

They don't know for sure. That's why you're seeing this dissonance come out in policymakers talking about the next interest rate move as well.

ROSALES: Diane Swonk, the economy certainly not the easiest of topics to talk about, but it certainly impacts us all. Thank you for your time.

SWONK: Thank you. ROSALES: Well, the suspect accused of stabbing nearly a dozen people at a Walmart in Michigan will be charged with one count of terrorism and 11 counts of assault.

Traverse City Police arrested 42-year-old, Bradford James Gille after he attacked 11 victims with a knife-style weapon near the store's checkout line yesterday.

Video obtained by CNN showed several witnesses confronting the attacker right there in the parking lot. The FBI is now helping city officials with the investigation.

Joining me now is CNN national correspondent, Rafael Romo. What more, Rafael, can you tell us about what you've learned about the suspect and what's next?

RAFAEL ROMO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In the last hour, we heard new details from the press conference. Officials there and officials say it appears the lone attacker identified by authorities a few moments ago, as Bradford James Gille of Afton, Michigan. There is his mug shot there.

He chose his victims at random. He has been charged with one count of terrorism and 11 counts of assault with intent to murder.

It all started at about 4:45 in the afternoon inside a Walmart in Traverse City, a small community on the shore of Lake Michigan. According to Grand Traverse County Sheriff Michael Shea, the 42 year old man entered the Walmart store in Garfield Township and suddenly started attacking people in the store's checkout area. The Sheriff said, the attacker stabbed a total of 11 people with a folding knife. Four of the injured remained in serious condition as of Sunday morning, according to Munson Healthcare.

Sheriff Shea also said other people shopping at Walmart took it upon themselves to stop the suspect and force him to drop the knife once he got out of the store as we will see in the following video obtained by CNN.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Drop! Drop it! Drop it!

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Throw the knife that way!

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ROMO: Among those who successfully subdued the assailant were Matt Kolakowski and his brother-in-law Chris O'Brien, who were in Traverse City for a family vacation. They happened to be at that Walmart, Isabel with Kolakowski's with his 13-year-old daughter and a friend of hers when they heard the commotion and decided to take action.

[15:10:09] Kolakowski said he first rammed the attacker in the ankle with a shopping cart and then tossed it at him until another man pulled out a gun on the suspect, forcing him to drop the knife. Kolakowski served in the U.S. Marine and seen active duty in Iraq nearly 20 years ago, and he said the man who pulled out the gun on the suspect, also served in the Marines.

Kolakowski told CNN that the man with the knife was screaming something about him being a soldier, and that everybody in Walmart were bad people. His eyes, he said, were just bulging out of his head.

Grand Traverse County Sheriff Shea said one of his Deputies arrived at the scene within a minute and took the suspect into custody.

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SHERIFF MICHAEL SHEA, GRAND TRAVERSE COUNTY, MICHIGAN: At the time of the Deputy's arrival, multiple citizens, including one who was armed with a pistol, were confronting the male suspect in the parking lot and preventing him from harming further people and leaving.

The Deputy took the suspect into custody without further incident.

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ROMO: In a statement, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer said she is in touch with law enforcement about the horrible news out of Traverse City, "Our thoughts are with the victims and the community reeling from this brutal act of violence." She also thanked first responders for their swift response to apprehend the suspect.

After helping subdue the attacker, the Marine veteran then helped take care of the wounded. Realizing he was a Marine veteran, an officer handed Kolakowski a couple of med packs and asked him to help treat those injured applying tourniquets to stabbing victims who were still in shock.

One final update, Isabel, no word yet on the suspect's motive. One victim was released from the hospital today, so imagine that.

ROSALES: Just incredible. A Marine on vacation there with his daughter, and that bravery that he exhibited confronting that suspect, and then the other person was a Marine as well.

ROMO: Right.

ROSALES: What would have happened if they weren't there.

ROMO: Very heroic.

ROSALES: Hard to think about, chilling. Yes.

Thank you, Rafael Romo.

Well, still to come, aid is starting to move into Gaza as Israel's military pauses some of its operations. What President Trump said a short time ago about where the crisis in Gaza could be headed. That's next.

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ROSALES: New today, aid convoys are moving into Gaza, and you can see in this video here, some of the aid being distributed. Israel's military says it has a tactical pause in place for some of its Gaza operations.

Meanwhile, Gaza Health officials say at least six more Palestinians have starved to death in the last 24 hours.

A short time ago, President Trump said after the collapse of talks last week, the situation in Gaza could be at a major turning point.

Listen.

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TRUMP: Israel is going to have to make a decision. I know what I'd do, but I don't think it is appropriate that I say, but Israel is going to have to make a decision.

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ROSALES: Trump also said the U.S. would supply more humanitarian aid to Gaza.

CNN international diplomatic editor, Nic Robertson gives us a closer look at just how desperate the food crisis has become and how children are at the greatest risk of starvation.

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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR (voice over): Empty bellies, empty food pots, life in Gaza reduced to this -- searching for food, nothing else counts; join the food line, a brave face, but this is not a game, a necessity.

Kids here are dying from hunger and they know it. So wait, clean your pot, hope this will be your lucky day. Like so many battle-weary soldiers, faces filled with suffering, thousand-yard stares fixed.

Hunger has become everything, life on hold and soup kitchens like this one facing food shortages, too. The only chance these kids and their parents have to put their bellyaches in remission.

This young girl telling us --

(UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE speaking in foreign language.)

ROBERTSON (voice over): "We only get food once a day. We thank the people working in this kitchen. Without them, we would have starved. Sometimes we get food, sometimes we don't."

(UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE speaking in foreign language.)

ROBERTSON (voice over): The woman waiting next to her telling us "I'm pregnant. I have to come here. My husband is blind and diabetic. I have to bring it -- the food for my kids because they're young." Sometimes they come back with an empty pot and they're waiting with plates and spoons.

The closer to cooked the food becomes, the greater the desperation. Missing out means hungry for another day.

More people crushing at the fence. More pots hanging, thrust over, more than obvious, the food in the cauldron cannot fill them all.

And then it begins. The moment everyone has been waiting for, a thin lentil gruel ladled out.

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Where bombing destroyed lives, fighting off starvation degrades them. Food now made a frontline in this war, turning Gazans against one another for the scraps.

Survival reduced to this.

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ROBERTSON (on camera): And the World Health Organization says in that city, Gaza City, that between the ages of six and five years old, there has been a tripling of the number of severely malnourished children in the past month. That's just a small, tiny slice of the picture in Gaza.

But today, the aid dropping from the skies, that's given some people some hope that things can improve. People there saying this has to keep up. The improved aid deliveries have to keep coming every day. They say if it doesn't come every day, then really this is -- it is no use to us.

A hundred aid trucks on their way from Egypt as well, 840 tons of flour there, 60 trucks on their way from Jordan. But Gaza itself, the whole Gaza Strip needs 600 trucks a day. So Israel's offer to have new humanitarian corridors, to have tactical pauses in their ongoing battles against Hamas, all of that intended to get more aid into Gaza.

But U.N. organizations, NGOs are saying, look, even if you just get, you know, even if you are just be able to bring in more food for a couple of days, a couple of weeks, you're not going to solve the malnutrition problem. It runs so deep through Gaza Strip right now, 24 children died of malnutrition just in July, and the numbers keep going up.

ROSALES: Nic, like you said in your story that sometimes they come back home with empty pots as their families are waiting with empty plates, forks and spoons, just incredibly heartbreaking how food has become a frontline in this war.

Thank you so much for sharing those stories. Nic Robertson, thank you.

We will be back in just a moment. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM.

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ROSALES: No more Mr. Nice Guy.

Andrew Cuomo says voters can expect more of his old style during his bid for New York City's mayor as an Independent. The former mayor acknowledged past mistakes that led to his stunning primary loss to State Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani, that includes, according to Cuomo, calling out so-called unrealistic ideas from his opponent.

CNN correspondent, Gloria Pazmino has more. Gloria, let's start with Gen Z and first-time voters. They helped catapult Mamdani to victory. I mean, he is the guy that's plugged into the culture, plugged into the internet. How confident is Cuomo that he can earn their crucial vote?

GLORIA PAZMINO, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Isabel, you know, the question is how confident is he and is he even going to try? Because there is no question that in the primary, young voters here in New York City, especially first voters, really turned out in historic numbers to support Zohran Mamdani, and the question is, can Cuomo appeal to any of those young people at all, especially ones that have essentially already pledged their support to Mamdani.

Now, Cuomo has gotten back out there in the last few weeks trying to connect directly with voters, and he told me yesterday he believes that he can connect with new voters and some New Yorkers who did not vote in the primary last month.

Now, you're seeing him there, that was out in East Harlem yesterday. He was out trying to connect directly with people. That's part of what he told me he needs to do more of and he believes that was a mistake of the primary election, not being out on the streets enough.

We've also seen him do a lot more social media videos using that as another medium to connect directly with voters. But here is what he told me about young people specifically and what he thinks about the way that they turned out in this primary election. Take a listen.

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ANDREW CUOMO (D), NEW YORK CITY MAYORAL CANDIDATE: They have real issues, and I think it is important that we have a real conversation with them about the issues, because I get the problems, but make sure the solutions aren't so simplistic. That's happened too many times where people get turned off because somebody runs for office and says, you know, I have a magic wand, I am going to make everything more affordable. I am going to make buses run fast. I am going to wave a wand, and all of that is going to happen -- and then nothing happens and they wind up getting turned off with government and be cynical and the skeptical about the entire system. (END VIDEO CLIP)

PAZMINO: Now, Isabel Cuomo has a lot of ground to make up here. He lost to Mamdani by more than 12 points, so he is likely going to spend the next few months focusing on his base, historically, Black New Yorkers, older White ethnic New Yorkers who have lived here in New York City for many generations, and it is likely that at this point, he believes the young vote perhaps is not something he is going to be able to take away from Mamdani in any significant way.

The other major factor in this election, looking ahead to November, Isabel, is the fact that Eric Adams, the incumbent, is still in the race. They have very similar bases, Cuomo and Adams, and it is very likely that at this stage they're going to split that vote, so that is the other key question here, whether or not Adams or Cuomo decides to get out of the race before November in order for one candidate to be able to put up a good race against Mamdani -- Isabel.

ROSALES: Never a boring day in New York. Gloria Pazmino, thank you.

Well, still to come, there are growing concerns that Donald Trump is making the FCC a political tool against network news coverage he does not agree with. A closer look, up next.

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ROSALES: Welcome back.

During his overseas trip to Scotland, President Trump is also lashing out at what he calls fake news in the U.S. and threatening to pull the licenses of two major T.V. networks he views as unfavorable to him. In a series of social media posts, he attacked ABC and NBC News, accusing both outlets of being, "political pawns for the Democratic Party," adding "Their licenses could and should be revoked."

I'm joined now by CNN legal analyst, Michael Moore. He is also a former U.S. Attorney.

Michael, thank you for your time, as you can bring us some legal ease into understanding how all of this works. So can he do this? Can you revoke the license of a network if you view them as being biased or unfavorable?

MICHAEL MOORE, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Yes, well, I am glad to be with you. I think, this -- I can think of two words to describe this. It is unconstitutional and it is authoritarian, you know. So from the unconstitutional -- from the legal standpoint.

ROSALES: The First Amendment.

MOORE: The First Amendment is going to kick in and he is going to run into that wall all the time, and really, his -- you don't pull licenses from national networks, and you know there are some other things that they could try to do through the FCC involvements, but not this. I really think this is more right now, a distraction and a diversion from what the topic has been, and that's been about Epstein. And so what does he do? He throws red meat to the favorite --

ROSALES: It is a smokescreen.

MOORE: Yes, right. He throws -- he throws it back out there, you know, this is what he did during his first campaign. He made the media the enemy. We all remember him standing there criticizing people at rallies and that type of thing and talking about fake news when he would, you know, chide the reporters out there that were covering him.

And so I think right now, he is so desperate to change the topic from what he is facing politically and maybe legally, that he is now trying to, you know, rattle his sword a little bit about this.

The Constitution really protects the right of the public to have access to the press, and what it does is allows us to know what our leaders are doing, it allows us there to be fair coverage out there. It allows there to be criticism of leaders if that's the case.

He wants to shut that down, and that's classic authoritarianism, when you do that and you see it, you know, in countries around the world where, you know, under dictatorships.

ROSALES: Well, you mentioned changing the topic away from the Epstein files. Let's change the topic to the Epstein files.

MOORE: Sure, sure.

ROSALES: All of this, as this fallout continues to surround the President. Now, this week we saw the Deputy Attorney General spend two days interviewing Ghislaine Maxwell, who is currently serving 20 years for the role that she played with conspiring with Epstein in the sex trafficking of minors.

Trump refused to rule out a pardon for her. What sort of a message would that send if he did pardon Ghislaine Maxwell?

MOORE: You know, he sent her a couple of messages. One was by letting the Deputy Attorney General even go down there and spend time. You would never see this. This is so outside the norms of what the department would do.

The Deputy Attorney General, his job is to oversee almost 120,000 employees. It is not to meddle in one particular case, and it is certainly not to go to a prison to interview somebody who has been convicted of sex offenses, to try to carry the water for the President. It will be interesting to see, and I would urge people to push for to see whether or not we get a full recording or audiotape/videotape of this interview. Let's see what promises were made, what statements were made, both from the time they walked into the door, to the time they left. Now, let's see what happened on the second day. Why did they come back for a second day?

So there is nothing normal about what we are seeing, and I think this idea that there may be a pardon is sort of the President again, sending a message, you know, the Deputy Attorney General was really like his carrier pigeon, and now he just decided to do it on the airwaves in response to a question.

The clear answer should have been, no, there will be no pardon. But for him to somehow suggest that he hasn't thought about it, that's just nonsensical, and to try to get information from Maxwell about what somebody else may be doing. I mean, that's like going to get information from the big drug dealer to ask him about who might be smoking weed. I mean, this is sort of just to the point of being absurd, and the question will be whether or not, you know, it supports his political base, if it gives him any cover at all.

ROSALES: And speaking of that, it seems that the topic of the Epstein files is one thing that will not go away, no matter what side of the political aisle you're on. In fact, there is a recent Reuters/IPSOS poll that 69 percent of Americans, including 62 percent of Republicans, his base, believe the government is hiding Epstein's alleged client list.

How big of a problem is this for the Trump administration? This topic of Epstein files that will not go away?

MOORE: It is a big deal, both politically but also really from a legal standpoint, it is a big deal. It is a big deal because his own Attorney General has said that his name is in the file, and that's a big deal, and he has denied that, but she has now apparently said he is in the file.

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We don't know in what way. We are not suggesting in some way that he is in there as a client or otherwise, but we know he is in the file and we know for some reason there is this hesitation and this sort of insistence to push this away to -- he didn't want to get into it despite the promises he had made to reveal everybody that had been involved in the case.

And so typically when somebody is trying to cover something up or hide something, that means that there is something to hide. We don't know what it is yet, but it is there. So that can be a problem for him legally. I just don't think that he has got -- his base, has the political will to necessarily give him a pass on this. He has made a complete buffoonery of this process, both from what he said and how he has handled it and trying to push it away.

The simple thing to do would just be to come in and get somebody that both sides can agree on. Get a Democrat and a Republican to come in the room and say, okay, y'all go through the file, present everything you want to present. Here is everything you can have, but to do these sort of secret meetings with the officials from the Justice Department to come in now and say, well, there is nothing there even though they walked them out on the sidewalk, a big notebook showing that this was Epstein, volume one. That's -- if you believe that --

ROSALES: I think it was notable, too, that the manosphere, like podcasters, comedians on the -- you know, ultimate right, they were questioning him and criticizing him. We will have to see what this next week brings for us with this story.

Michael Moore, thank you for your time.

MOORE: Glad to be with you.

ROSALES: Well, still to come, millions have been dealing with dangerous heat this week. We will take a look at how those extreme temperatures are becoming a growing concern in our changing climate and what is being done to protect people who work outside. That's next.

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ROSALES: Welcome back.

More than 113 million Americans are under extreme heat warnings today, and as experts continue to sound the alarm about climate change, joining us now to discuss is Dr. Roxana Chicas, a climate and neuroscientist at Emory University. She also leads a team of researchers working to develop a wearable bio patch to help outdoor workers stay safe in the heat.

Talk to me about how you have these conversations with your patients about keeping them safe outdoors.

DR. ROXANA CHICAS, CLIMATE AND NEUROSCIENTIST, EMORY UNIVERSITY: Well, Isabela, when we talk to patients, we tell them how important it is to stay hydrated, to listen to their bodies when they start feeling symptoms of heat related illness, such as cramps, feeling thirsty, feeling dehydrated, sometimes you get headaches.

Listening to that, hydrating, taking a rest in the shade to cool down, it is very important.

ROSALES: And actually, Dr. Chicas, you have a personal background here rooted in agricultural and construction work. What made you realize that heat wasn't just a matter of workplace discomfort, but an actual safety and serious life concern?

CHICAS: Well, growing up, I used to hear the stories from family and friends that they used to work outdoors in harsh environments and the blazing sun. And I would listen to stories, for example, of a construction worker who was on a roof working and got dizzy from the heat, fell and fractured his hip and his leg, or a farm worker who fainted also from the heat and only to be rolled over by a tractor trailer.

And so, during -- listening to those stories, oftentimes I also became an interpreter for injured workers because I was one of the few people in the community that spoke English and in Spanish. And so I would go with them to seek health care and, you know, I knew that heat was playing a major role in their injuries.

And while I was there, I knew I could break these barriers of culture and language, but I also felt that I needed to know more. And that's when I decided to pursue an Associate's Degree in Nursing and then a PhD, because I wanted to have all the tools necessary to support this community.

ROSALES: And talking about deadliness, this really took me by surprise that extreme heat leads an average leads to an average -- at least and average of 800 deaths annually in the U.S., that's more than tornadoes, more than fires, more than hurricanes. I mean, this is serious stuff. Do you think that people are taking that seriously enough, especially in the agricultural sector where farmworkers are 35 times more likely to die from heat-related illnesses than other sectors?

CHICAS: Right. So they are 35 times more likely to die a heat-related death, followed by construction workers who are 13 times, and there are no federal heat protection standards. There is nothing really in place in the industry to protect these workers, and so it is something that is often overlooked for this population, that is constantly making sure we have food at our grocery stores, keeping America fed, yet their safety is often overlooked.

ROSALES: You're actually an entrepreneur as well. You are an inventor, at least you have built a wearable patch. Talk to me about what I am looking at right here.

CHICAS: So yes. So this is actually a collaboration between scientists at Georgia Tech engineers and computer scientists, biostatisticians, nurse scientists at Emory. We came together to make this small wearable device that you can wear on your chest, you stick it on your chest and what it does is essentially, it tracks vital signs like your heart rate, your motion, and it is taking all of this data and eventually what it is going to do is that we are going to use it to train A.I. to be able to recognize when a worker is heading into the danger so that we can send them alerts in real time.

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ROSALES: To get help.

CHICAS: To get help, exactly.

ROSALES: Gotcha, and you can see all of this from your phone -- you're getting data.

CHICAS: Yes, it is on the phone. It is on an app, and it is tracking all of your signals -- your heart rate, your ECG, your oxygenation, your motion, all of that data comes together to train A.I. to be able to recognize. And so I think it is a really amazing device that we've come up with, because you can see how its applicable to many other populations.

So for example, older adults are also more at risk to heat stress; athletes, high school athletes also. So as a daughter, you know, I worry about my parents when they're outdoors, they still like to, you know, do gardening, lawn, do yard. And, you know, for them to wear something like this I think would be amazing. ROSALES: And so tiny, and it is not often we hear A.I. being used for good. So thank you so much for coming here, Dr. Chicas, explaining to us how serious this is and some of the solutions that are at play right now. Thank you so much.

CHICAS: Thank you.

ROSALES: We'll be right back.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The whole backstage towards the end, and I do remember sort of Sting taking over the sort of head boy role, Geldof just planted a load of lyric sheets in his hands, saying, we are all going to go on at the end and sing "Feed the World."

(SINGERS singing "Feed the World.")

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's hard to convey to you the sort of collegiate atmosphere, the fun of it, and the sense of what everyone was doing. I know that sounds really crap, like a Hollywood movie, but it is absolutely true.

(SINGERS singing "Feed the World.")

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That was such a magical moment. I was one of the special people who were allowed to experience that day.

(SINGERS singing "Feed the World.")

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ROSALES: Tune in to this new episode of "Live Aid: When Rock and Roll Took on the World" tonight at 9:00 P.M. Eastern and Pacific, only on CNN.

Well, a massive asteroid that was originally hurtling toward our planet may no longer be a threat. That's good news. But researchers recently discovered the 200-foot wide asteroid, dubbed 2024 YR4, might slam into the moon instead, potentially carving out a new crater visible from Earth.

Joining me now is former NASA astronaut, Leroy Chiao.

Leroy, thank you for your time to talk about this. When will this asteroid potentially strike the moon? And is there anything to actually be worried about here?

LEROY CHIAO, FORMER NASA ASTRONAUT: Well, the thing to keep in mind is that orbital mechanics is not a precise business. You might remember, I think it was six months or maybe even a year ago, when there was all this excitement about a huge asteroid that was going to come and hit the Earth in the next several years, and then astronomers refined their measurements, we did some calculations and decided that actually, there was no threat whatsoever.

So we will have to see how this goes. You know, the Earth takes impacts every day, and so does the moon, much more so than the Earth. So this is really nothing new. It is just a kind of a big piece, 200 feet is a large asteroid, if you will.

But, you know, we will know more as we get closer and refine the measurements.

ROSALES: Well, thank goodness for their math, ever in our favor here. Will this outer space collision actually be visible from Earth?

CHIAO: Yes. So if a 200-foot object, a wide object slams into the moon on the, you know, the side of the moon that's visible from the Earth, then it should be -- we should be able to observe it pretty well with telescopes, certainly.

ROSALES: Okay. And let me ask you about this, 2024 YR4, it might be the largest asteroid to crash into the moon in 5,000 years. You were mentioning the size of it. How deep of a divot, an impact to the moon's surface can we anticipate?

CHIAO: You know what? It is not really my area of expertise, so I couldn't really tell you. But, you know, I am sure it is traveling fast and it is going to make a big hole for sure.

I mean, you could look at some of the things that we see here on the Earth, you know, meteor crater in Arizona was a piece of iron that was much, much smaller and made a pretty good sized crater.

So, you know, you look at some of the craters on the moon, notably, you know, some of the things at the South Pole, and it is pretty impressive what these objects can do.

ROSALES: And NASA and the Indian Space Research Organization, they're expected to launch a new satellite into orbit this week. The satellite was built to capture images of nearly all of the Earth's land and ice surfaces. What are scientists hoping to learn from these new pictures?

CHIAO: Yes, so there are two interesting things about this satellite. First, it is being created by the Indian Space Research Organization and it is kind of a joint thing with NASA and that NASA instruments will be on board as well. There will be two what we call synthetic aperture radar sets and they are going to provide the most accurate maps, radar maps of the Earth to date, and so that's pretty exciting because it will have a lot of applications for different kinds of scientists, and also for, you know, just understanding more of how the Earth is, you know, what different areas of the Earth look like.

ROSALES: Well, Leroy Chiao, thank you for your time, and I am glad that this is not a look up moment from 2024 YR4. Thank you for your time.

CHIAO: My pleasure. Thank you. ROSALES: Thanks.

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