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Israel Talks To Other Nations About Relocating Palestinians; Growing Alarm Over Israeli Plan To Take Over Gaza City; Trump Orders Review Of Smithsonian Museums And Exhibits; "Godfather of A.I." Reveals His solution to Saving Humanity; Saving the Clanwilliam Sandfish; Taylor Swift Talks New Music on "New Heights" Podcast; Paris Saint-Germain Overcome Tottenham 4-3 on Penalties. Aired 1-2a ET
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JOHN VAUSE, CNN ANCHOR: Wednesday's Donald Trump was talking tough ahead here on CNN Newsroom.
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DONLAD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I don't have to say there will be very severe consequences.
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VAUSE: That is if Putin doesn't commit to a ceasefire with Ukraine. But will Friday Trump be all talk, no action at that summit in Alaska?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Netanyahu has gone way too far. I think he has lost the plot.
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VAUSE: Growing international outrage in Israel and Prime Minister Netanyahu as plans to occupy Gaza City are approved by the head of the Israeli military.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is one of about 6,000 ICE flights since President Donald Trump took office.
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VAUSE: And I said flying dark, how those privately operated flights are becoming increasingly difficult to track.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Live from Atlanta, this is CNN NEWSROOM with John Vause. VAUSE: On the eve of the Trump Putin summit in Alaska, the question for Europe and Ukraine is which Donald Trump will show up at a military base in Anchorage. Will it be the tough talking, I'm very disappointed in Putin, he's a killer, Donald Trump? Or will it be the throw him under the bus Trump like in 2018 in Helsinki when Trump sided with the Russian president over election interference?
After a virtual summit Wednesday with European and Ukrainian leaders, it seems the U.S. president was on board. According to two diplomats, European diplomats, President Trump indicated he would push Putin on Friday for an unconditional cease fire and the Russian president would face very severe consequences if he doesn't commit to ending the conflict. But President Trump refused to say what those severe consequences might be. But if Friday's meeting goes well, he says follow up talks could include Ukraine's president and happen almost immediately.
On Wednesday, Ukraine and Europe emphasized unity, urging Trump not to agree to a peace deal without -- with Putin, rather, without them. French President Emmanuel Macron says Trump was very clear that Washington wants to secure a cease fire and Ukraine's territory cannot be negotiated without its president. Volodymyr Zelenskyy reaffirmed Wednesday he will not cede the Russian occupied Donbass region to Moscow, laid out his terms for a peace deal.
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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT (through translator): Everything about Ukraine will be discussed with Ukraine. We have to get prepared for a three sided format of the conversation. There should be a cease fire first, then security guarantees, real security guarantees. And by the way, President Trump expressed his support for that.
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VAUSE: For more details now from CNN's Kristen Holmes reporting in from Washington.
KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, the countdown is onto this critical summit between President Trump and President Putin. And President Trump is tamping down expectations. During a press conference, he said he wasn't sure if Putin would listen to him, if he could have convinced Putin to stop trying to strike civilians. And this is what he said when he was asked about why Ukrainian President Zelenskyy wasn't going to be there.
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TRUMP: I would say the second meeting, if the first one goes OK, we'll have a quick second one. I would like to do it almost immediately. And we'll have a quick second meeting between President Putin and President Zelenskyy and myself, if they'd like to have me there.
(END VIDEO CLIP) HOLMES: You heard President Trump say there, if it goes well, it shows you that President Trump is in a different head space than he was the first time he sat down face to face with the Russian president during his first term. He has grown increasingly skeptical when it comes to the Russian president. He has started to grow frustrated. And one of the reasons that we're told that he's so keen on this meeting is because he's tired of talking to him on the phone.
As he has said, he has these conversations and Putin is all talk, and then the next thing he knows, there are rockets or bombs being dropped in Ukraine. And there is a belief that President Trump has, and some on his team do as well, that he'll be able to suss Putin out to see how serious he is, to actually get a read on him if the two of them are in the same room. One thing, though, that is worrying to some U.S. officials as well as European officials is this idea that Putin could, as he has in the past, charm President Trump.
Kristen Holmes, CNN, the White House.
VAUSE: According to the Russian Foreign Ministry, the Kremlin's position on ending the fighting in Ukraine has not changed. At the same time, Moscow playing down Wednesday's talks between the U.S., Ukraine and European leaders. More details now from Fred Pleitgen in Moscow.
FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Russia is calling efforts by the U.S.'s NATO allies from Europe and also by the Ukrainians insignificant as they try to enter the diplomatic process between the U.S. and Russia. The Russians are also saying that they believe that those nations are essentially trying to sabotage that process between U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian leader Vladimir Putin, of course, the two are set to meet in Alaska at the end of this week. Now, as far as the Russians are concerned, they say that obviously the conflict in Ukraine will be one of the main topics at that meeting. However, they also say that the two leaders should be dealing with accumulated issues between the U.S. and Russia, one of them, of course, also being possible normalization of relations between those two countries. And as far as the Russians are concerned, of course, sanctions relief as well and possible business deals in the future.
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The Russians also saying another very interesting thing, and this comes in the form of a spokesman for Russia's foreign ministry, and he said that Russia's territory is enshrined in its constitution. Now, that seems to indicate that the Russians might be pouring cold water on one of the things that President Trump has been saying, namely that he believes that Russia and Ukraine could swap territories that either side holds right now in the conflict of Ukraine. Russia, of course, considers four Ukrainian regions, Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, Donetsk and Luhansk, to be Russian territory in their entirety in their administrative borders. And it's unclear whether or not Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, is going to budge on that issue.
On the whole, the Russians have been saying that they've made significant gains on the battlefield over the past couple of days and they believe that Russia's leader will be in a very strong position when he meets with President Trump.
Fred Pleitgen, CNN, Moscow.
VAUSE: The head of Israel's military has approved plans for the reoccupation of Gaza City. Well, it's still not known when that operation will begin. The past day has seen a surge in military strikes. According to the Palestinian Health Ministry, 123 people were killed in Gaza City, more than 400 others wounded within a 24 hour period, adding to the overall death toll of more than 61,700 who have died in Gaza since the October 7 attack.
The Associated Press is reporting that Israel is in discussions with South Sudan to resettle Palestinians from Gaza. Right now, it's unclear how far those talks have progressed with South Sudan. That's a country struggling with war as well as a food crisis. The South Sudanese Foreign Affairs Ministry, though, has called the resettlement report baseless. Both Israel and the United States have encouraged voluntary migration from Gaza.
The Israeli Prime Minister telling i24 News that Israel is talking to a number of countries about this and Palestinians are not being pushed out, but rather being allowed to leave. But most Palestinians remain deeply opposed to permanent resettlement, so do rights groups as well as the United Nations.
Shaina Low is a communications adviser to the Norwegian Refugee Council. She joins us now live from Amman in Jordan. Thank you for being with us.
SHAINA LOW, COMMUNICATION ADVISER, NORWEGIAN, REFUGEE COUNCIL: Good morning, John.
VAUSE: So, here's how the Israeli prime minister framed the idea of a large scale relocation of Palestinians from Gaza. Here he is.
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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER (through translator): Must Gaza remain a closed space in all the other war zones. In the civil war in Syria, millions of people left. In Ukraine, millions left. In Afghanistan, millions left. And suddenly they determined that in Gaza, the civilians must be trapped, give them the opportunity to leave.
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VAUSE: Voluntary migration from a war zone is one thing. The forced mass relocation of an entire native population is another. It's also including -- it's also included as a war crime. The Israeli media also reporting talks are underway with Indonesia, Libya, Somaliland and Uganda as well. These reports seem to surface every few months, which would indicate a lot more than just an element of truth here.
These seem to be ongoing discussions and they've been ongoing pretty much since the start of the war. LOW: Yes, I mean, this is something that we've been worried about
since the very first week after October 7th. Palestinians do not want to leave. Or at least if they leave to seek safety, they want to be guaranteed of their right to return home. The Palestinian experience for the last 75 years has been marked by displacement and refugees unable to return to their homes. And so of course, the idea of relocating Palestinians anywhere, let alone places that are hundreds or thousands of miles away from their homeland is something that's a non-starter.
I also don't think that we can call any departure from Gaza at this point voluntary because Israel has created conditions so coercive, so counter to supporting and sustaining any type of life, as we've seen most of Gaza be reduced to rubble, that people have no choice, would have no choice but to leave because there is nothing there to support them. It's -- this is really a frightening thing. When we speak to our colleagues in Gaza, they of course do not want to leave Gaza. They actually want to return to their homes and begin rebuilding. And the international community must do everything possible to let Israel know that this is not an acceptable solution for the Palestinians.
The only solution is an end to 22 months of hostilities, a permanent and sustained ceasefire, and the massive scaling up of aid with the opening of all of the land crossings into Gaza.
VAUSE: And to your point, in Gaza right now, 78 officials and three truckers interviewed by Reuters listed a host of obstacles ranging from rejections of shipments for minor packing and paperwork issues to heavy scrutiny over possible dual military use for a range of goods, as well as short working hours at the Israeli border crossing. And you know, as you say, there is -- there are no words right now to describe the living hell that is Gaza. Do you believe that this is all part of some kind of grand plan by Israel to make the territory simply unlivable? So while the Palestinians may not want to leave, they may have no other choice but to leave?
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LOW: Absolutely. We've -- we're seeing this not only happen in Gaza, but we're seeing the same conditions happen to communities living in parts of the West Bank, in the northern refugee camps, in small herding, and Bedouin communities in Area C, where over and over and over again, we are seeing that Israel is making life unbearable, unlivable, unsafe for Palestinians, so they have no choice but to flee. We can't look at these discussions, absent the discussions we've seen from President Trump and others about, you know, the Gaza Riviera and creating a new place administered by the U.S. or administered by someone else that is not administered by Palestinians. This has been part of a plan to push out Palestinians since the first week after October 7th, we've seen members of the Netanyahu government talk openly about the plans to resettle Gaza and unlawfully transfer Israel's civilian population to live in Gaza, as they did before 2005, when the settlements were withdrawn. So this is a very real concern and it's something that the entire world should be -- should be fighting against. Palestinians have faced more than 75 years of displacement. Most of Gaza's population are refugees from 1947, 1948, who were displaced when Israel was created. These are people who have longed to return to those homes. And the idea of forcing them, pushing them, coercing them to leave to any other foreign country is not only a war crime, but just morally abhorrent.
VAUSE: And South Sudan calls these reports baseless. But as it so happens, South Sudan hosted the Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister recently as it denies those reports. And it seems many of these countries, which are possible destinations, have a few things in common, the conflict zones, many of them, and many of them are experiencing severe shortages of food. So in many ways, the plan would be to send Palestinians from a war zone by the sea to a conflict zone somewhere in Africa.
LOW: Yes, I mean, the plans make no sense. These aren't realistic solutions, they aren't acceptable solutions under international law, they aren't acceptable solutions to Palestinians, and they should not be acceptable solutions to the international community. It's just absurd to think about sending Palestinians to war zones, to areas where people do not speak the same language as them. I mean, it's just absurd. It's just absurd.
VAUSE: Yes. Shaina Low, thanks so much for getting up early and being with us there from Amman in Jordan. Thank you.
LOW: Thanks, John.
VAUSE: In a moment here on CNN, immigration deportation flights surging in the United States, but those planes carrying out those missions becoming harder to track. We'll explain why.
Also, President Trump goes after the Smithsonian, ordering a review of what he considers divisive displays in major U.S. museums.
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VAUSE: More than two dozen senior cartel bosses serving time in Mexico are now in U.S. custody. This is the second transfer in recent months from Mexico to the United States, part of an agreement between both countries trying to curb the flow of illicit drugs. All of those transferred were continuing to operate their drug cartels from behind bars in Mexico.
The White House says there's now significantly more National Guard troops on the streets in Washington, part of Donald Trump's crackdown on crime. Guard members are not making arrests and their involvement could change depending on the needs of law enforcement. Troops are now operating shifts around the clock 24 hours a day. And President Trump says he'll look to extend the Guard's presence in the capital beyond the 30 days.
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VAUSE: The White House has also ordered a comprehensive review of all Smithsonian museums and exhibits. Earlier this year, President Trump accused the Smithsonian of being influenced by a race centered ideology promoting American and Western values in a negative light. The move is seen as an effort to comply with the president's directive on what should and should not be displayed in major public museums.
And joining me now is CNN Chief Media Analyst Brian Stelter. It's good to see you.
BRIAN STELTER, CNN CHIEF MEDIA ANALYST: You too, thanks.
VAUSE: OK, so here's part of the letter from the White House to the Smithsonian Institute about the internal review on what can and cannot be displayed. This review, they write, "Aims to ensure alignment with the president's directive to celebrate American exceptionalism, remove divisive or partisan narratives and restore confidence in our shared cultural institutions."
There are people who specialize in historical accuracy, they're called historians. It seems the job of deciding what is and what is not divisive or partisan perhaps should be left to them as opposed to the White House, and I mean any White House.
STELTER: That's the thing, there's not Republican history or Democratic history, there is just history. And that is why there's a long, forgive me for repeating the word, history of having experts actually decide what should be on display and in these exhibits.
Now, here's the thing, John, the Smithsonian is not part of the executive branch. It does not actually report up to President Trump. It was created by Congress, it is funded by Congress, it has a Board of Regents that oversees this institution.
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Yes, Vice President J.D. Vance is on the board, yes, there is input from the executive branch, but the Smithsonian may choose to some degree to have a fight on its hands here. Now, we know the Smithsonian has said it will work constructively with the White House, but given that it's not officially under Trump's thumb, it's going to be really interesting to see how exactly the museums handle these inquiries from the White House. There are three political appointees like the budget director who are involved in this content review. They say they want to do this quickly, they want results in the coming months, they talk about correcting some of the content and removing divisive messaging, replacing it with more unifying messaging. But again, there's no Republican history or Democratic history.
So I suspect going forward, people who go and visit these fabulous, incredible museums, they're going to be looking around wondering, has there been interference?
VAUSE: Yes, and back in March, the President signed an executive order, the title was Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History. And the opening line reads, "Over the past decade, Americans have witnessed a concerted and widespread effort to rewrite our nation's history, replacing objective facts with a distorted narrative driven by ideology rather than truth." This is an accusation he made as far back as in 2020. Listen to this.
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TRUMP: The unhinged left wing mob is trying to vandalize our history, desecrate our monuments, our beautiful monuments, tear down our statues and punish, cancel and persecute anyone who does not conform to their demands for absolute and total control.
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VAUSE: So how is the Trump version of rewriting history different from what he accused the Democrats of doing?
STELTER: He sees an ability now to wield power in new ways, right? In some ways, that's the story of Trump 2.0. He was using a lot of words, aggressive language in the first term, now he's following up with actions in the second term. We've heard from some historians and press freedom groups in the past 24 hours who are very concerned about this content review. PEN America, for example, saying the efforts to rewrite history are a betrayal of our democratic foundations.
In some ways, though, I think everybody has to be in a wait and see mode to find out what actually happens, if anything, you know, is this all bark and no bite in this instance? Or are these White House appointees going to try to force through serious changes at the museums? We know that purging history and pill free museums is pretty high up on the autocratic checklist. Historians can tell us all about how this has happened in regimes in the past, but is that what the Trump administration is actually going to do in this case? We don't know.
VAUSE: And then last month, many were left outraged in the National Museum of American History agreed to remove a placard which had information about Trump's two impeachments from his first term. Now, that has been put back. The exhibit, though, is now set up in a way that places information about Trump's two impeachments in a lower spot. And some changes have been made to the placard's text.
STELTER: And I think it's pretty clear that there may be a connection between these two stories. The Washington Post was the first outlet to observe that this impeachment exhibit had been messed with, that there had been this change. The Smithsonian said it was temporary and denied feeling pressure from the White House, but it's clear there's been pressure from the administration. This pressure has been building for months.
So now, within a matter of days after that impeachment exhibit was restored, albeit with some adjustments, now the White House is announcing a much more sweeping review. And in some ways, it's like having a MAGA editor for the Smithsonian, right? Imposing Trump's views on the cultural institutions. It comes on the same week, Trump is talking about being the host of the Kennedy Center Honors in Washington this December. So he is very much trying to impose his will.
The question, as it has been for media companies, for law firms, for universities, is whether individuals are going to stand up and try to push back. If I was the curator, for example, of the Black Lives Matter exhibit at the Museum of African American History, I'd be quite concerned today about this. And I would want to be ensured, I would want to be promised that the work I do, the history that I document will sustain regardless of who happens to be in power on any given day or any given year.
VAUSE: He who controls the present controls the past and something else.
Brian, thank you for being with us. Always good to see you.
STELTER: Next.
VAUSE: Federal court has ordered an immediate improvement in conditions at a holding facility in New York City operated by ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. That includes limiting capacity, cleaning cells three times a day and providing sleeping mats. Detainees had complain about dirty conditions. And cell phone images show about two dozen men crowded into one room with just blankets. As a number of detainees grow so to the number of deportation flights, thousands in recent months, all flown by private charters. CNN's Rene Marsh reports tracking ICE air is becoming increasingly difficult.
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RENE MARSH, CNN U.S. NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: More than 30 migrants. Detainees, handcuffed, walk up those steps and get on board, one, two, three, four more detainees. You can tell that their hands are restrained.
MARSH (voice-over): This is one of about 6,000 ICE flight since President Donald Trump took office. We were able to find this plane here in Richmond, Virginia. But most of them are hidden from the public and operating with little transparency. Virtually every ICE flight carrying detainees blocks their tail numbers from flight tracking websites, making it nearly impossible for families and advocates to find their loved ones once they're in ICE custody.
MARSH: This is one of the tail numbers that we think could possibly come here. And right now it's in Youngstown. Oh, look, I think it's taking off because the altitude is increasing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Keep rising?
MARSH: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK.
MARSH (voice-over): We studied months of flight paths, got a tail number, and made an educated guess about which flight would arrive in Richmond. Then, using a crowdsourced database that monitors aircraft radio signals, we tracked the suspected flight, revealing every city and state it stopped in within 24 hours.
This is the plane we're tracking, a Boeing 737 operated by Eastern Air Express with the tail number N668CP. It has up to 148 economy seats, a bathroom in the front and the back but it's unclear how many people are on board this flight or any other ICE flight.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tyson 51, continue on.
MARSH: OK, Tyson 51 is this one right now. That's the call sign that they're using for this flight.
MARSH (voice-over): Many ICE flights go by Tyson, the same call sign used to identify Trump's personal plane after he was elected in 2016. Here's the flight path it took on August 6th, Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania to Louisiana, back to Ohio, then New York, picking up and dropping off detainees at every stop.
MARSH: If it's actually coming to Virginia, it should be here very soon. It's on approach. It's on approach right now. It's altitude is, like, literally 50 feet, so.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. I think over there. Over there. Go, go, go.
MARSH: All right. I think -- I think that might be it.
This is a plane. This is a plane that we've been tracking all morning. This is it. And we just saw, like, more than 30 detainees handcuffed, walk up those steps and get on board. There's one, two, three, four more detainees.
You can tell that their hands are restrained. Another one, another. OK, so they're unloading another vehicle here. Multiple detainees walking up to get on board this Eastern Air Express flight.
MARSH (voice-over): The Trump administration has used more than 70 airports across the country for domestic shuffle flights so far, moving ICE detainees between detention centers before deportation. In the past three months, the number of these flights spiked 90 percent compared to the same time period last year, according to an immigrant rights group. And that trend is expected to continue after the Department of Homeland Security recently earmarked $14.4 billion for ICE flight.
MARSH: We know that the tail number of the flight that we've been tracking today is N668CP. And we want to see if this public tracking site that gets its data and information from the FAA has any record of the flight. Nothing comes up.
MARSH (voice-over): But were able to track the flight as it made its way back to Alexandria, Louisiana, the busiest hub for ICE deportation flights. At this point in the journey, some of the first detainees on board were possibly on this plane handcuffed for nearly 10 hours. As this ICE flight completes its 24 hour trip, Louisiana is likely the last stop in the U.S. before the people on board are deported.
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MARSH (on camera): Well, the reality is it was not very simple to track this ICE flight. We weren't even sure we had successfully done it until it was coming in for a landing at Richmond's Airport. And the point is, these flights really have virtually no eyes on them. Families and advocates have no idea where their loved ones are going once they are in ICE custody.
Now, one of the airlines flying the flights for ICE, Avelo Airlines, told CNN in an e-mail, quote, "Flights operated on behalf of the United States government are often unidentified at the government's request." So we reached out to the Department of Homeland Security, that's the agency that oversees ICE, to get a better understanding as to why these flights are blocking their tail numbers, but the agency did not comment.
Rene Marsh, CNN, Washington.
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VAUSE: In a moment, a warning for humanity from the godfather of A.I. Ahead on CNN, what he says will be the only way to survive a future world of artificial intelligence.
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VAUSE: In Alaska, a glacial outburst has caused a record-breaking river surge. Waves of water from a lake formed in the Mendenhall glacier went flowing into a river along the west side of the capital city, Juneau.
This is the third consecutive year of this kind of flooding. Officials say newly-installed flood barriers have helped protect the city.
We should note the Arctic, including Alaska, is warming twice as fast as the rest of the planet as global temperatures continue to rise and break records each month.
Soaring temperatures and heatwaves are fueling wildfires around Europe. These images were taken in western Greece. Flames have swept through a cement factory, olive tree orchards and forced mass evacuations.
In northern Portugal, hundreds of firefighters have been working to put out a blaze burning since Saturday. Helicopters have been called in to dump water, and not just residents, but livestock, evacuated in Albania as high winds forced farmers to move their animals to nearby rivers.
The country's defense minister says it's been a critical week as forests and farmland burn across the country.
Geoffrey Hinton, the so-called godfather of A.I., says there is only one way to prevent artificial intelligence from turning on humanity and killing us all. It comes down to emotions, basic human feelings. At a tech industry conference in Las Vegas, Hinton warned technology is getting smarter than us, and current efforts to keep A.I. in check will fail.
His solution is to build maternal instincts, instincts rather into A.I. models so they care about people, they have a sense of compassion. Maybe they could build those instincts into some people we know.
CNN tech reporter Clare Duffy has more.
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CLARE DUFFY, CNN TECH REPORTER: An alarming warning from one of the original and leading voices in the A.I. space. You'll remember that Geoffrey Hinton has been warning about some of these existential risks that he sees from A.I. since he decided to leave his job at Google two years ago.
But now he's sort of taking shots at what he calls the tech bros that are leading A.I. companies right now, saying they are taking the wrong approach to A.I. safety by trying to ensure that humans remain dominant over A.I. systems.
Instead, in his mind, as or if, I should say. A.I. becomes smarter than humans which many people think that it will. He worries that it will be able to manipulate us and prioritize its own interests and ability to function over humans needs.
Instead he thinks that humans need to be training A.I. systems to be more like our mothers, to prioritize our well-being even when they are smarter and more powerful than us.
Let's take a quick listen to some of the comments that he made at this A.I. conference in Las Vegas on Tuesday.
GEOFFREY HINTON, "GODFATHER OF A.I.": I think people have been looking at this all wrong. So people have been saying, because their tech bros, they've been saying we have to stay in control of these A.I. We've somehow got to be stronger than them. We've got to be dominant and they've got to be submissive.
That's not going to work. They're going to be much smarter than us. They're going to have all sorts of ways of getting around that.
So we need to reframe this problem. It's not that we have to be stronger than them and stay in control of them. We have to make it so that when they're more powerful than us and smarter than us, they still care about us. So the right model is the only model we have of a more intelligent
thing, being controlled by a less intelligent thing, which is a mother being controlled by her baby.
DUFFY: Now, he doesn't necessarily make clear how he thinks these tech companies should be training A.I. systems to have that maternal instinct. And I do think it's worth noting that there are leaders in the A.I. space who disagree with Hinton about how much of an existential risk A.I. truly poses to humans.
Certainly, at this point A.I. systems continue to get sort of basic tasks wrong. So it's still rather hard to think about them being that much smarter, that much more powerful than humans.
But certainly a stark warning from one of the most prominent voices in this space. Back to you.
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VAUSE: Well, the Clanwilliam sandfish. You ever heard of it? Apparently it's an iconic fish. And now there's a focus to help it thrive in its native waters once again.
Stay with us.
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VAUSE: Once so plentiful, their annual migrations churned water into waves. The Clanwilliam sandfish, endemic to South Africa's Western Cape, have been in rapid decline for the last few decades.
And today, on "Call to Earth", we meet the conservationists helping to restore this endangered species.
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ZAIN ASHER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: From the nets and buckets, this may look like a fishing expedition. But Jeremy Shelton and Cecilia Cerrilla aren't here to haul in a big catch. They're here to save South Africa's disappearing sandfish.
DR. JEREMY SHELTON, CONSERVATION BIOLOGIST, FRESHWATER RESEARCH CENTER: In South Africa, freshwater fishes are the most threatened species group. And the sandfish is the most endangered migratory fish.
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SHELTON: There's not just one threat. It's a combination of invasive species, water abstraction and habitat degradation.
ASHER: This is the Biedouw (ph), a tributary of the Doring River, it's one of the last known places where sandfish come to spawn.
SHELTON: After spawning, the Biedouw is literally pulsing with baby sandfish, but within a few weeks those numbers start to decrease. We have invasive fish like bass and bluegill moving in, eating a lot of them.
So what we're doing is coming in and rescuing as many of those little sandfish as possible before they perish, moving them into sandfish sanctuaries where they can grow safely to adulthood, and then we can release them back into the wild.
ASHER: A few years ago, young sandfish were introduced to this former agricultural dam turned sanctuary located at Bushman's Kloof Wilderness Reserve.
SHELTON: This is the first time we've come back to this dam since 2021 and we set fyke nets, which are a passive way to collect fish from an aquatic environment.
CECILIA CERRILLA, PHD CANDIDATE, UNIVERSITY OF CAPE TOWN: Here at Bushman's Kloof we've got two sandfish sanctuary dams. And the fish in these dams are happy. They grow big.
ASHER: The nets will be left overnight to capture as many adult fish as possible to release back into their native waters.
SHELTON: We want mature fish coming out of these sanctuaries at a size where they are big enough to avoid being eaten by the invasive fish, old enough to breed themselves.
ASHER: A sunrise start for the team as they return to the sanctuary to check their nets.
SHELTON: Our first few nets didn't have too much, but then there was a net that was just full of beautiful three-year-old sandfish just in perfect health, thrashing in the water.
CERRILLA: Nice.
So once they're out of the nets, now they're in buckets. And it's kind of a race against the clock to some extent to get them back into the river.
SHELTON: Ready to go back into the wild.
The water quality in the dam and the river could be a bit different. So now we're on about 50-50 during water -- dam water gives them a chance to get used to it.
ASHER: Before they're released into the Doring River, the fish are measured and tagged with tiny transponders.
SHELTON: Five years ago, when we started reintroducing sandfish back into the wild, we started using pit tags, and those tags allow us to determine things like sandfish movement and survival and growth in the long term.
We have this underwater antenna at the mouth of the Biedouw River, and that allows us to detect any tagged fish that swims back up the Biedouw to spawn during the annual spawning migration.
ASHER: Since its inception, the Saving Sandfish Project has more than tripled the size of the spawning population.
CERRILLA: So far it's been a relative success. What's been really interesting over the past few years is getting more and more data.
When we release these fish, we record the conditions in which they're released. Which sanctuary dam do they come from? How big are they when they're released? Where are they released? What time of year?
And so we can see which conditions are most favorable to a fish's return.
SHELTON: Once we've stabilized this population in the Biedouw, the next step really is to reclaim habitat for the species in the long term.
I think what really inspires me is the support that we've received from the communities in the area. All that fills me with a lot of hope and enthusiasm for the future of the sandfish.
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We'll be right back.
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VAUSE: 35 Grammys and now an Emmy.
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VAUSE: Beyonce taking home her first Emmy for the Beyonce bowl halftime show on Christmas Day, Live from Texas Hometown of Houston and aired by Netflix.
Her team took the award for outstanding costumes for a variety, nonfiction or reality show. With the Emmy win the music icon is now halfway to the coveted EGOT status, which is achieved by earning an Emmy, a Grammy, an Oscar and a Tony.
Taylor Swift has made her official debut on the "New Heights Podcast", hosted by her boyfriend Travis Kelce, who plays football in Kansas somewhere.
But he seemed to take a back seat as Swift talked about her new upcoming album. Also got personal when she talked about her father's heart surgery.
CNN's Elizabeth Wagmeister has more.
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ELIZABETH WAGMEISTER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT: It's the moment that the world was waiting for, and over 1.3 million people tuned in live on YouTube to watch Taylor Swift and her boyfriend Travis Kelce and his brother Jason Kelce's podcast. Now the podcast comes as Taylor announced her 12th studio album, "The Life of a Show Girl", and she made some big announcements.
She revealed that the album will be released on October 3rd. She also revealed the producers behind the album, and these are two producers who she previously worked with, and they are credited with helping her transition from country music to pop music, which means we are in store for a pop album from Taylor Swift.
Now this was a big deal for the relationship between these two superstars from the entertainment world and the sports world, because it's the first time that we've seen them in conversation.
So we got a little glimpse into their relationship and how it all started. You may remember that Travis had previously said on his podcast that he wanted to shoot his shot to get Taylor. Take a look.
TAYLOR SWIFT, MUSICIAN: I'm just circling back to new heights to say thank you for this. Look at this.
TRAVIS KELCE, NFL PLAYER: I'm the luckiest man in the world.
JASON KELCE, PODCAST HOST: How did you know he wasn't crazy? Because that's the other side of that, right? Like a guy goes up there and professes his love for you.
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J. KELCE: It's either one, it's like this could be the most romantic thing in the world. It could also be like
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T. KELCE: What's wrong with being crazy about somebody.
TAYLOR: He is crazy, Jason.
J. KELCE: But there's a -- there's a right crazy.
SWIFT: Yes, he's the good kind of crazy. And I knew that he wasn't crazy the first couple of times that we talked. I was just like, he's truly like, he's truly getting to know me in a way that's very natural, very pure, very normal. Like, also like just the way that he could make me laugh so immediately, about normal things.
WAGMEISTER: Now, Taylor also got incredibly emotional as she talked about buying back her music catalog. You remember that earlier this summer, the superstar had made the announcement that she now owns all of the rights to all of her music after a very contentious battle over the ownership of her music.
SWIFT: I get a call from my mom and she's like, she's like we got your music.
J. KELCE: Yes.
SWIFT: And so sorry that this is it's literally been so long since this happened like it's -- every time I talk about it, she was like, you got you got your music. And I just like, very dramatically hit the floor for real like, honestly, just --
T. KELCE: It's been a long time coming.
SWIFT: Bawling my eyes out. And I knock on the door, he's playing video games, and I'm trying to say it in a normal way, and I'm just like, Travis.
T. KELCE: Oh, no. What just happened? What just happened?
SWIFT: And he's like, he like, puts his headset down. He's like, guys got to go. And I think he thought something was wrong. And you come up and I'm just like, I got my whole music back and then just start absolutely heaving.
T. KELCE: Just dead weight. Just dead weight. Lose all control.
SWIFT: Had no power in my legs to support myself. And yes, this changed my life.
WAGMEISTER: Taylor also revealed that there are going to be 12 songs on her 12th studio album, including a collaboration with fellow pop star and her friend Sabrina Carpenter.
As always, it Taylor's world and we are just living in it. Back to you.
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VAUSE: Thank you.
So this looks like a Labubu. But it's not. It's really a Lafufu. That's fake Labubu. And they're now in U.K.'s dangerous for children list. U.K.'s Trading Standards body has issued an urgent warning Wednesday saying its teams have seized thousands of counterfeits in recent weeks.
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VAUSE: And the fake Labubu dolls are poorly made and unsafe, with detachable parts like the eyes and the feet posing a choking hazard and exposed stuffing increases the risk of suffocation.
So don't buy a Lafufu. Don't even buy a Labubu. They're too expensive.
Air Canada says it anticipates flight cancellations will start Thursday as it winds down operations. Canada's largest airline is bracing for a strike this weekend and says it will lock out flight attendants who voted to strike.
The company plans to suspend operations on Saturday and could remain shut down until it reaches a deal with the union.
Well, a trophy kiss for Paris Saint-Germain as they celebrate their latest piece of silverware. PSG overcame a 2-0 deficit to triumph over Tottenham Hotspur on Wednesday in the UEFA Super Cup. It all came down to penalties.
CNN senior sports analyst Darren Lewis has details now from London.
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DARREN LEWIS, CNN SENIOR SPORTS ANALYST: when something looks too good to be true, it normally is. And that certainly was the case for Tottenham Hotspur on this occasion. They led twice in this superb Super Cup showdown in Italy.
But they were pegged back in regular time and in the penalty shootout to surrender the Super Cup to PSG the champions of Europe, who showed a real touch of class to fight their way back into contention and ultimately to go on to win.
Their heroes in regular time were Gonzalo Ramos and Kang, both of whom came off the bench to score. And in the shootout, it was Nuno Mendes with the decisive goal.
As far as PSG are concerned, they were a little bit undercooked because they had been on their summer holidays until just a week ago, but they showed why they are the kings of Europe.
So much quality, so much class, so much more to expect from them this coming season.
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VAUSE: Thank you for watching. I'm John Vause.
CNN NEWSROOM continues with the fabulous Rosemary Church after a short break. See you tomorrow. I'll take a long walk now.
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