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Israelis Gather To Mark Two Years Since 7 October Hamas attack; French Prime Minister Sebastien Lecornu Resigns; Few Women Lawmakers Elected In First Post-Assad Elections; Trump Threatens Use Of Insurrection Act To Deploy Troops To Cities; Docs: Russia May Be Helping China Prep for Taiwan Invasion; Journalist Deported from U.S. to El Salvador; Trump Posts First TikTok Message; Study: Inhalers a "Substantial" Contributor to Pollution; Hundreds Escape after Storm Strands Trekkers on Everest; Ingka Group CEO on Legacy and Future of IKEA's Brand. Aired 1-2a ET

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LYNDA KINKADE, CNN ANCHOR: Hello and welcome. I'm Lynda Kinkade. Ahead Here on CNN Newsroom, Israel marks two years since the brutal Hamas attack on October 7th, a tragedy for so many families, many of whom are still calling the return of hostages. We'll take you live to the commemorations underway.

27 days as Prime Minister Sebastien Lecornu resigns from his role in France, throwing Emmanuel Macron's government into chaos.

And Donald Trump orders National Guard troops to two major U.S. cities. Leaders in Oregon and Illinois are challenging the federal crackdown.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Live from Atlanta. This is CNN Newsroom with Lynda Kinkade.

KINKADE: It's a day of commemorations and mourning in Israel as the country marks two years since Hamas deadly attack. You're looking at live pictures there from Tel Aviv where Israelis are set to gather at Hostages Square for a somber anniversary.

And these are live pictures now from what was the Nova Music festival site where hundreds of people were killed when Hamas militants stormed the area near the Gaza border the back in 2023. And in the hard hit kibbutz of Nir Oz, a memorial was held there ahead of the anniversary.

In total, Hamas killed 1200 people and took more than 250 hostages. There are still 48 being held in Gaza, 20 of whom are believed to be alive.

That attack triggered a brutal retaliation from Israel. But after two years of war, a new push to end the fighting in Gaza's underway in Egypt. Delegations from Israel and Hamas is set to begin a second day of ceasefire talks amid what has been described as a positive atmosphere, according to Egypt's state affiliated news agency.

An agreement would be based on Donald Trump's 20-point Gaza plan. The U.S. President is expressing optimism that a deal can be reached.

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DONALD TRUMP, U.S. PRESIDENT: I really think we're going to have a deal. We have a really good chance of making a deal and it'll be a lasting deal. We want to have peace. This is beyond Gaza. Gaza is a big deal. But this is -- we had -- this is really peace in the Middle East. And the amazing thing is we have every Arab country, every Muslim country, we have every country surrounding they all want --

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KINKADE: The talks haven't stopped Israeli attacks inside of Gaza. According to the health ministry in the enclave, more than 67,000 Palestinians, most of them women and children, have been killed over the last two years. The U.N. is watching developments with one official saying if a ceasefire takes effect, aid teams are ready to go and prepared to deliver supplies. CNN's Nic Robertson is following developments from Cairo and has more now. In the first day of talks and how they played out.

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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yeah, I think the name that stood out, who was expected to be there, Ron Dermer, a key adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Minister of Strategic Affairs. Over the weekend, Netanyahu had indicated that Dermer would come, he would lead the delegation, and then that got walked back earlier today.

He let others Gal Hersch, principal negotiator for the release of all the hostages from October 7, top security officials, foreign minister, foreign ministry representative as well. But Dermer apparently going to lead the talks remotely from Israel will come if there's progress.

And I think also is key not just who's not in the room, but who's the talking to who. And the Hamas delegation led by Khalil Al-Hayya, who Israel had an airstrike on his residence in Qatar just a few weeks ago.

Now, last month he had talks with Qatari and Egyptian officials. We're told by Hamas at least to try to narrow the gaps on some of the differences. Obviously, Hamas is being told, hand over your weapons. You have no political future. Existential issues for the group, topics like this probably in the frame for that narrowing of the gaps.

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KINKADE: Thanks to Nic Robertson there. Well, the French prime minister says he should know by Wednesday if he can save the government hours. After announcing his resignation, Sebastien Lecornu said he was asked by the French President Emmanuel Macron to hold talks with political rivals one more time. [01:05:00]

Earlier, Lecornu said, you can't be prime minister when the conditions simply aren't there.

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SEBASTIEN LECORNU, FRENCH PRIME MINISTER (through translator): There are a lot of red lines in the mouths of many, at least some, not everybody. There are rarely green lines. However, the very principle of building a compromise between political parties is to be able to combine green lines and take into account a certain number of red lines. But we cannot be at both extremes.

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KINKADE: Lecornu quit just hours after revealing his cabinet of largely centrist ministers from Macron's party. That set off a backlash from both the right and the left side. His resignation after less than four weeks in office makes him the shortest serving prime minister of the Fifth Republic. Members of the French far right are demanding new elections.

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MARINE LE PEN, NATIONAL RALLY (through translator): We've reached the end of the road and there is no solution. There won't be any tomorrow. And therefore, the only wise decision in these circumstances and one provided for by the constitution of the Fifth Republic, is to return to the polls and for the French to give direction to the country.

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KINKADE: Want to go to Los Angeles and welcome CNN European affairs commentator Dominic Thomas. Great to see you. Good to have you with us on this story. So 27 days, that's all it took for yet another French prime minister to res. It has been called a shock resignation. But given what we've seen over the last few weeks, were you really that surprised?

DOMINIC THOMAS, CNN EUROPEAN AFFAIRS COMMENTATOR: No, because I really didn't see any way that he was going to be able to put together a government that would not be then subsequently be censored in Parliament based on the conversations he was having. And then ultimately the group of people that he put together in this particular government, he came in promising rupture, that the budget reforms that brought down his predecessors were essentially unchanged. They were just tweaked.

And then of the 15 ministers that he ended up appointing, all of them that held onto the major posts, 8 out of 15 were exactly the same as the ones that were there that his predecessor had selected. So ultimately, Lynda, he did not make the necessary inroads to convince people that this was going to be a valid government moving forward.

KINKADE: And of course, when we look back on what transpired, France's political system has been in turmoil, really, since July of 2024, when President Macron called those snap parliamentary elections. Would you say we've been in a steady downward spiral ever since?

THOMAS: Yes. And it's really -- it goes back even sort of further than that in a way, because the French government, although there is an attempt to work across party lines, Even in the 80s and 90s and early 2000s they had their French model of power sharing, known as cohabitation, where members of the prime minister's party were different, to, say, that of the President.

But I think in this case, we see a particularly divided political landscape in which ultimately there really is no one solution that would satisfy the other two thirds of the country.

You have this almost perfect split in the Parliament along the lines of a third, and it's very difficult to see what the path forward is, and especially since most people do not want to work with Emmanuel Macron at this stage, with the possibility of there being a general election as late as 2027. Lynda.

KINKADE: So let's look forward to the next sort of steps. We know Lecornu is told to achieve stability by Wednesday. What does that actually mean in political terms?

THOMAS: Well, I mean, ultimately, he's been given 48 hours to do this, so I think Macron has very little faith in the sort of outcome of this. I think what it does is it gives Emmanuel Macron a couple of days to think what his next steps must be, given the fact that there are rising calls for him to step down, which I think is highly unlikely, or to call further parliamentary elections, because I think the path of going back to the drawing board and identifying a new prime minister at this moment from either the far left, whom he doesn't want to work with, or the far right, is itself unlikely.

And yet going back to the people, to the Parliament, is unlikely to produce an outcome that would be favorable to Emmanuel and Macron, to say the least, at this stage.

KINKADE: I mean, certainly not favorable to him, but I'm wondering whether it might actually help restore credibility to the system. I mean, we've heard the resignation calls from both sides of politics. Now, should he step down, would it better for France?

THOMAS: Well, I mean, this is a very, you know, serious question. There's no precedent for this to -- for this to happen. People are arguing that ultimately there is political chaos and paralysis, and ultimately he holds the responsibility there.

The irony, of course, in this whole situation is that since he's unable to find a parliamentary path forward, in other words, to select the Prime Minister who comes with the support of this divided parliament.

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Power goes back and actually reinforces his position as president here. What a snap election would do at this stage is likely further erode the support that he has within his party. And that terrifies people around him who are scared of going into almost near extinction as they head towards a general election. And it's likely to further bolster the far right and the left who are just dying to go to the people and to see what kind of outcome there would be in a general election.

But I think even then, Lynda, whoever wins that general election or comes out ahead would most likely also face an uphill struggle to find a government that would not be censored, given the level of divisiveness in France politically today. So it's a real kind of constitutional crisis that we're looking at here.

KINKADE: Yes. Macron doesn't seem to have any good options at this point in time. Dominic Thomas, good to have you with us. We will talk again, no doubt, very soon. Thanks so much.

THOMAS: Yeah, thank you, Lynda.

KINKADE: Well, Syria has released preliminary results of its indirect vote for its first election since Bashar Al Assad's ouster. Just seven women have been elected, falling short of the 20 percent target and raising concerns about female representation.

In the 210 seat legislature, two-thirds of lawmakers have been elected by the local electoral bodies. One third will be appointed by the president.

U.S. President Donald Trump says he may invoke the Insurrection Act to send National Guard troops to U.S. cities. Oregon and Illinois are challenging the administration in court over those deployments. A law enforcement source tells CNN that members of the Texas National Guard are headed to Illinois.

Governor Greg Abbott posted a picture on social media of Guard members carrying riot gear and boarding a military aircraft.

In Portland, residents say protests against immigration crackdowns are confined to a small area. President Trump's description is starkly different.

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TRUMP: I believe that the Portland people are scared. You look at what's happened with Portland over the years, it's a burning hellhole.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's foolish politics, but other than that, nothing's going on.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I mean, it's a beautiful Portland morning. It's sunny, it's quiet.

UNDIENTIFIED MALE: Look at Portland this morning, peaceful. People are going. They're taking their kids to the park.

(END VIDEO CLIP) KINKADE: Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley of Oregon says the Trump administration is trying to provoke protesters in Portland. He's urging them not to take the bait. Here's Oregon's attorney general.

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DAN RAYFIELD, OREGON ATTORNEY GENERAL: Not afraid about anything. I mean, we've been prepared for this moment from day one. They've been talking about this since the election. So this isn't new. And if they try to do some other creative approach to bring the United States military to the streets of Portland, we'll meet them in court.

I mean, that's exactly what we need to do. This is America. The United States military does not belong on our streets unless it's extreme circumstances. And that's what the judge found. Right. We don't have a rebellion here in Oregon. We don't have an insurrection. We don't have an invasion. We certainly don't have a place where the president can't execute the laws of the United States.

So you want to be creative, Mr. President, we'll be creative right back and we'll meet you in court. And you can go back to the same judge that you've lost twice and explain to her why the circumstances have changed, because they absolutely have not.

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KINKADE: More now on the situation in Oregon's largest city from CNN's Shimon Prokupecz.

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SHIMON PROKUPECZ, CNN SENIOR CRIME AND JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Here in Portland, Oregon, this is where all the protests have been taking place. Right here. This driveway is where most of the activity has been occurring. You know, all those pictures and videos you've been seeing of clashes, they've all been taking place right here in this area.

This is all happening as the Trump administration has been trying to bring National Guard troops here. A federal judge here in Oregon has said, wait, not now, I'm not allowing this to happen, and has placed a temporary hold on that.

The administration says they're going to continue to fight to try and bring National Guard troops here and other cities across the United States. The next steps unclear at this point, but as you can see for now, protesters continue. These are the scenes and the sights outside here in Portland. Shimon Prokupecz, CNN, Portland, Oregon.

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KINKADE: We're going to be right back with much more news in just a moment.

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KINKADE: Today is October 7th and Israel is marking two years since the deadly attacks where Hamas killed more than 1,200 people and took more than 250 people hostage. Well, I want to welcome from Tel Aviv, Udi Goren. He is the cousin of Tal Haimi, whose remains are still being held by Hamas in Gaza. Really appreciate your time today.

I can only imagine how emotionally and physically exhausting this fight has been two years since the attacks. Not just for you, but for all the families.

Udi, how are you holding up?

UDI GOREN, COUSIN OF TAL HAIMI: Well, you know, on the one hand, we've never been this close, or at least it never have seemed to be this close to ending this catastrophe. That's on the one hand.

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On the other hand, you know, we've been here before. We've experienced many, many failures and letdowns. So, you know, I'm keeping my hopes up. It looks good. You know, what the president has done in the past week, rallying up all the Arab countries behind him, rallying up all the European countries behind this deal, rallying up Netanyahu behind this deal. Now, there's one piece missing from this puzzle, and that is Hamas. And, you know, we've seen what they've done two years ago. So I'm trying not to be let down again.

KINKADE: Yes. I want to understand a little bit more about your cousin Tal, what kind of person he was and what you want the world to know about him and his young family.

GOREN: You know, I'll say two things. First, what he was a very gentle soul. You know, he was never the first person you'd notice when you walk into a room, but he was always the first person people turned to when they needed help. He was very handy. He was a civil engineer. He was, you know, he was the guy you'd go to when you got new IKEA furniture or needed something fixed around the house. And he would always be the one lending a hand. Very much a problem solver.

But first and foremost, he was a family man. He was a great father and husband and son and grandchild, and this is what people really remember him for, you know, just a great part of his community. But I think there's one anecdote from two years ago, from October 7, that I think would let you know what Tal was about.

When he was patrolling the kibbutz as a part of the emergency squad, the first responders, as soon as they knew there were people trying to get into the kibbutz, and he was making his way to the front gate knowing he was going to confront terrorists, risking his life after he had left the house. And he knew that his wife and kids are at real danger because the handle for their safe room wouldn't lock.

So if the terrorists made it to their home, they would probably get them. With this in mind, his kids and his wife in danger, walking towards the front gate to confront the terrorists that were trying to get into the kibbutz. He made a phone call to his workplace half an hour away to ask how they were doing. And this is the kind of guy that he was.

KINKADE: Yes, he sounds like a remarkable guy. And you've not only been fighting for him, but for all the hostages. You've been deeply involved with the Hostages and Missing Families forum, serving on the steering committee.

And you've sat across the table from Israel's political leadership, including the prime minister, and you've said that creating a media stir forces politicians to pay attention.

Do you believe the Israeli government has been doing everything possible to secure, you know, the return of Tal's remains and other hostages?

GOREN: I think they've made many wrong decisions along the way. You know, if have they done everything possible, they would have already been here. And I think they had other interests in mind and they've made other preference, and I think they were wrong. If you ask them, they might still say, were right here. Look, we got this deal now on the table, which is very, very beneficial to Israel.

I think that this should have happened a long time ago, and we should have prioritized bringing back the hostages over continuing fighting Hamas a long time ago. Because still, even after we bring back the hostages, we will have to keep implementing Trump's plan, or any other plan for that matter, to make sure that Hamas doesn't grow back to the monstrous dimensions and threat that it was to Israel.

And this has to be done either way. And this is why I believe they should have prioritized much earlier.

KINKADE: Yes. And after so many false starts when it comes to negotiating the release of the hostages and the end of the war, how much hope do you genuinely feel right now?

GOREN: It looks different. It looks different again because essentially the entire world is rallying up behind this deal. Every mediator, every negotiator, every ally that we have, and to be truthful, every ally that Hamas has is also backing up this deal. And we see the negotiation team going out, we see the that, or at least it seems like everyone involved has the interest to make this happen.

And this is why I think this time it feels different. But, you know, this is just my sentiment.

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What happens on the ground there are still so many things that could go wrong. At the end of the day, as I've said, not only is it a very complex issue, but also on the other side of the fence, there is a terrorist organization that has zero interest in our lives, in their own lives, and in their people's lives. And we're dependent on them to end this war. KINKADE: Udi Goren, we appreciate your time and all the work that

you've done and we're thinking about everyone there in the region today. Thanks so much.

GOREN: Thank you.

KINKADE: Well, Russia and China are working closely on the military front. Just ahead, what newly leaked documents reveal about the purpose of the training and who might be the target. Plus, CNN captures the moment a journalist deported from the U.S. reunites with his family. Hear his message to those considering coming to the US when we return.

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LYNDA KINKADE, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back. You're watching CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Lynda Kinkade.

Newly-leaked documents show Russia may be working closely with another U.S. adversary to train its troops for a military invasion.

CNN senior international correspondent Will Ripley has the details from Taipei.

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WILL RIPLEY, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: A trove of leaked documents, verified by a leading think tank, reveals Russia may be teaching China how to drop tanks and troops from a plane. This risky Cold War maneuver Russian airborne forces call "landing in a train".

A former Ukrainian intelligence officer who helped verify the leaked documents says it's clear why the Chinese want this training.

OLEKSANDR DANYLIUK, ROYAL UNITED SERVICES INSTITUTE: It's actually a very critical component which is needed for China being ready to invade Taiwan.

RIPLEY: Oleksandr Danyliuk and a team at Royal United Services Institute examined 800 pages of documents leaked by hackers. They suggest Russia's more experienced airborne forces may be helping China prepare for a Taiwan invasion.

Moscow may also supply armored vehicles, weapons and training A battalion of Chinese paratroopers, the documents say.

DANYLIUK: So you Have this Full airborne regiment landing on Taiwanese soil, and it's all around The capital. So, like, the Capital could be taken in just a few days.

RIPLEY: Chinese military planners have long been looking for ways to seize control of Taiwan's sea and air within the first 72 hours before the U.S. and others have time to respond. CNN has not verified the leaked documents, and it's not clear if the deal is in effect. Taiwan's foreign ministry says they've taken notice of Beijing and Moscow's recent military cooperation.

We also asked the Chinese and Russian defense ministries for comment. So far, no response.

U.S. Intelligence says China's People's Liberation Army is also rapidly expanding its rocket force -- well over 3,000 missiles, new missile bases up and down the Chinese coast facing Taiwan.

This base, built in just two years. Look at these satellite images from 2020 and 2022. They're even putting new bases in old buildings.

JOSEPH WEN, OPEN-SOURCE RESEARCHER: This is where the artillery brigade of the 73rd Army Group is stationed. What's unique, they used a deserted textile factory as their base.

RIPLEY: Joseph Wen is an open-source researcher in Taiwan. For the past four years, he's been using satellite imagery to map out China's massive military footprint.

WEN: What you're looking at on this map now is Pingtan (ph), the closest point of China to Taiwan. And there are many long-range artillery units at this location established at the end of 2022, right after Nancy Pelosi's visit to Taiwan.

RIPLEY: So what does it tell you that China is bolstering its artillery bases that are within firing range of Taiwan.

WEN: In recent years, China has put more focus on lower cost and higher volume, long-range artillery, which could deplete Taiwan's reserves of air defense missiles.

RIPLEY: China's rocket force has been rocked by corruption scandals, and no one knows how well its missiles perform in actual combat. Experts warn sheer numbers could overwhelm Taiwan's defenses.

The island is responding with military drills, turning city streets into combat zones, subway stations into mock battlegrounds. A message to the public, "Be ready".

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RIPLEY: Here in Taipei, people would only have a few minutes warning if China fired a missile. That's how quickly they could arrive here.

Experts say China's military buildup is the largest the world has seen since before World War II. And while the People's Liberation Army has surpassed Russia in almost all areas, the airborne forces are an exception.

That's because Russia's airborne forces have combat experience while the PLA does not. But they certainly do seem to be preparing for combat.

Will Ripley, CNN, Taipei. (END VIDEOTAPE)

KINKADE: After months in U.S. federal custody, a deported journalist is starting to adjust to a new normal. Spanish language live streamer Mario Guevara gained popularity by documenting immigration raids in Georgia.

He spoke about his bittersweet return to El Salvador and his advice to others who are thinking about migrating to the U.S.

CNN's Gustavo Valdes reports.

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GUSTAVO VALDES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Mario Guevara is a tourist in his own country, rediscovering a place he left over 20 years ago after facing threats for his work as a journalist.

This is where he was attacked, he said, with sticks and rocks before fleeing the country.

He sought asylum in the United States, but it was denied in 2012. But yet, immigration authorities allowed him to stay and work as a journalist.

That changed in late June when he was arrested by local police while covering a protest in Atlanta.

Immigration authorities took notice and reopened his immigration case and detained him for nearly four months. He says an agent confronted him while in custody.

MARIO GUEVARA, DEPORTED JOURNALIST: Mario, why are you following us? You give us a hard time. I tell -- don't take it personally.

What's my job? I try to inform my community. It was nothing against you.

VALDES: He was deported last week. And as he finds again, the city he grew up in, food is helping him deal with the change.

He lost 30 pounds while detained. So for now, he's allowing himself to regain some of it back. Sharing the experience with the family he left behind, he says he was ready to comply with the judge's order to return to El Salvador in 2012. But immigration authorities told him he could stay.

Now he wonders if it would have been better if they had.

GUEVARA: They had to be honest. They had to tell the immigrant. You do not have option. You don't have choice to stay here.

You will lose the case, you will lose the case, and you will be deported. You will only waste time and money. Don't do it.

VALDES: He admits he likes some of the ideas put forward by Donald Trump. Because the ideals of the Republican Party align more with his Christian faith.

But he regrets dismissing Trump's message on immigration.

GUEVERA: But I never imagined it will be something like he's doing now. He's doing something terrible against our community.

VALDES: This week, he gets to enjoy time with his two sons, who came to visit and deliver equipment so he can go back to being a reporter, a journalist who says his stories about the immigrant experience will now be different.

GUEVARA: I think it's because I will understand more than before, because now I'm sure what they live, I'm sure what they told me.

VALDES: For the people who are thinking about migrating to the U.S., he has a message. "Don't do it. It's not worth it. Right now."

GUEVARA: The only thing I can say to President Trump is be fair with others. Don't matter the color of the skin.

VALDES: Gustavo Valdes, CNN, San Salvador.

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KINKADE: Well, President Trump delivered a TikTok message to young people Monday in his first official post on the platform since being reelected.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: To all of the young people of TikTok, I saved TikTok, so you owe me big.

And now you're looking at me in the Oval Office, and someday one of you are going to be sitting right at this desk and you're going to be doing a great job also.

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KINKADE: A White House official said the administration views the platform is a way to further communicate with Americans. And added that the public should expect a different tone on TikTok posts compared to other White House and Team Trump social accounts.

They also made it clear that a personal device was used for the account, as the app is still banned on federal devices.

Inhalers make it easier for people to breathe, especially those suffering from lung diseases. Coming up, why researchers say that many of those inhalers are contributing to planet-warming pollution.

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KINKADE: Welcome back. Researchers have uncovered a surprising source of planet-warming

pollution: medication inhalers. It's not the medicine itself that's harmful to the environment, but the method of delivery.

CNN health reporter Jacqueline Howard explains.

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JACQUELINE HOWARD, CNN HEALTH REPORTER: Scientists have actually known for some time now that inhalers rely on a propellant called HFAs and they're a class of potent greenhouse gases.

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HOWARD: Inhalers that rely on this pollutant are primarily a type called metered-dose inhalers. And they are the most commonly prescribed.

The propellant itself helps to deliver medication to the patient using the inhaler.

And in new research, scientists now say that the average amount of emissions tied to asthma and COPD inhalers each year is similar to the climate impact of about half a million cars on the road per year here in the United States.

The researchers, they also looked at data from 2014 to 2024, and they estimated that the social cost of emissions related to inhalers were about $5.7 billion.

Now since metered-dose inhalers appear to be the main contributor here, some scientists say switching to another type of inhaler could be helpful.

Two other types of inhalers are called soft-mist inhalers and there are dry-powdered inhalers. These inhalers do not use such propellants as the metered-dose inhalers do. And the Va actually recently switched to dry powder and according to new research reduced inhaler-related emissions by more than 68 percent.

Now, of course, if you use an inhaler because you have asthma or COPD and you're interested in what your options are, definitely talk with your doctor before making any immediate switch in your medications or treatment regimens.

It's still important to have these conversations with your doctor and ask them what other possible inhaler options may be available for you.

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KINKADE: Our thanks to Jacqueline Howard.

Well, the 2025 Nobel Prize in medicine has been awarded to three scientists who discovered how the body keeps its immune system under control.

Americans Mary Brunkow and Fred Ramsdell, along with Japan's Shimon Sakaguchi, were recognized for identifying regulatory T-cells.

Their work has laid the groundwork for over 200 clinical trials exploring therapies that treat autoimmune diseases, improve organ transplant outcomes, and develop more effective cancer immunotherapies.

A rare October blizzard strands hundreds on Mount Everest and exposes just how little we know about weather on the world's highest peak. We'll have that story next.

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KINKADE: Welcome back.

Rescue operations are winding down on Mount Everest after an unseasonably intense blizzard left hundreds of trekkers stranded on the Tibetan side of the mountain.

The rare October storm underscores how little is known about the weather on Mount Everest, and how challenging it is to predict.

CNN meteorologist Derek Van Dam has more.

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DEREK VAN DAM, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Yaks clearing a path for hundreds of hikers stranded on the Tibetan side of mount. Everest. Firefighters carrying some hikers to safety after a heavy snow storm pummeled the Himalayas, leaving experienced mountaineers trapped in knee-deep snow.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think this was a big surprise that caught a lot of people off guard.

VAN DAM: October is a favored month for trekkers to visit Mount Everest because of its typical dry and stable weather patterns.

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VAN DAM: But that wasn't the case this weekend as a tropical-infused area of low pressure moved across the region and the Himalayas effectively acted as a wet sponge being pushed against a wall, wringing out all the available moisture in the form of heavy snow.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's critical to have the station here on the glacier.

VAN DAM: The lack of weather information on earth's highest mountain has always been a challenge.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We know more about the weather on Mars than we do on the highest peaks of the Himalaya here on our planet.

VAN DAM: That's why Dr. Baker Perry and a team of scientists installed weather stations on Mount Everest in 2019 to gain more insight. He says this is the biggest storm observed since they installed the instruments, and these snowfall rates are similar to some of the highest we see in the western U.S. The blizzard leaving some still waiting for rescue.

the same storm system hit Nepal. Heavy rains triggered landslides and flooded farms, killing at least 44 people, with some still missing.

Derek Van Dam, CNN -- Atlanta.

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KINKADE: Adidas has launched a collection of pet clothes. They include the company's iconic tracksuit, as well as t-shirts. Some of the clothes have a more practical component, like a water-resistant hoodie to protect pets from the rain.

But fashionistas outside of China will have to wait. At this stage, the clothes are reportedly exclusive to the Chinese market.

Well, the outgoing CEO of IKEA's largest franchise says his legacy will be his work bringing the Swedish furniture company into the future.

CNN's Richard Quest spoke with Jesper Brodin while getting the best tips on how to assemble one of their signature chairs.

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RICHARD QUEST, CNN ANCHOR: I'm having palpitations, just this --

JESPER BRODIN, OUTGOING IKEA CEO: Here we go. This is going to be a chair in a few moments.

QUEST: Just let's share it.

These are impossible to put together.

BRODIN: Absolutely incorrect. And we shall prove it. Let's see.

QUEST: We have three implements.

BRODIN: Here we go.

And you've got to be in charge of the assembly structure.

QUEST: Number one.

BRODIN: Yes. You know, can I tell you what's a good number one, make sure we have all the screws. Ok.

QUEST: This is going to get embarrassing even before we've started.

BRODIN: Have you opened these ones?

QUEST: It's open. Yes it's open. Yes.

BRODIN: I would like to see them here.

QUEST: Oh no, no. They'll fall on the floor. BRODIN: Ok, ok. Let's see.

QUEST: Actually, no. I mustn't argue. I must not argue with the CEO of IKEA who does actually know what he's doing.

BRODIN: We will see that in a moment.

So we're going to start with these legs, actually.

QUEST: Take the legs.

BRODIN: Yes. We take the legs.

QUEST: And we want the bit with the two holes at the bottom.

BRODIN: Right. So which way are they going to go.

QUEST: It goes -- yes, that bit -- the prongs point away from the points -- the rounded bit.

BRODIN: Ok. Good. Here we are.

QUEST: Your reputation is on the line here.

BRODIN: Yes I know, this is the risk we were taking, both you and I.

I think, but in particular, me.

QUEST: What do you think has been your biggest achievement in all of that time?

BRODIN: Well, I think, to be honest. I think I've been leading two transformations. I think to be open to change and to be able to -- bring a legacy, strong legacy to love the past, but also create the future.

QUEST: Number three. So now we put these --

BRODIN: The small ones. Yes.

QUEST: Right.

BRODIN: One and a half years -- we actually said in the aftermath of the pandemic, we decided to -- as we were coming out of pandemic, we saw a little bit sluggish sales because people bought a lot of home furnishings during the pandemic.

And we decided to actually reset after the inflation. So we invested 2.1 billion euro in lowering prices, which actually made our last year's sales in money was flat. But the pieces and the customers grew incredibly.

QUEST: Right. Ok. So that's number four done.

So now we're on to number five. Oh, now come on. This is -- this is oh dear. This is really -- BRODIN: We're going to make it. It's probably going to slide into this

one, right.

QUEST: What.

BRODIN: How about that?

QUEST: Oh, I see. Yes, it's sliding in there.

BRODIN: It's quite simple actually.

QUEST: Oh yes. There you go.

BRODIN: There you go.

So here we are.

QUEST: How much is the reputation? You know, everybody loves IKEA stuff. And the quality level is good.

But people still would like to see -- the sometimes suggest does it last. Does the furniture. Do you, do you need to work on that more?

BRODIN: Well, we did, actually. To be honest, back in 2000, I think -- '12 -- '13, we took a good look at ourselves in the mirror and we had excellent quality and we had some beauty spots, if I say like that.

So we did a total wash (ph). But the interesting thing, the most interesting thing, Richard, was our products weren't actually designed and engineered for second hand.

So the first assembly works, but when you disassemble it and assemble it many times, it actually (INAUDIBLE) the crack.

QUEST: Oh, you've built.

BRODIN: We had to actually redo all the engineering now the second hand.

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QUEST: Right. So what would you prefer to do? Keep the obsolescence involved? In other words, once you've disassembled, it's useless or not as good.

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BRODIN: Yes.

QUEST: Or re-engineer, so that second assembly's --

BRODIN: No, we made the decision those years way back actually, we have to do it for second hand. So.

QUEST: All right.

BRODIN: All right. Time has come to do the last moment here. And we are so far so good. And here we are.

QUEST: When you design these things, it's really clever how you actually design.

BRODIN: You know, it's a very interesting design formula. It's called democratic design. It's five things. It's form, function, quality, sustainability and then the most tricky one of all, low price.

So you need to do all of this and still make sure that it's -- and that's why engineering is important.

QUEST: How often does your sustainability come into conflict with low price?

BRODIN: Today, honestly --

QUEST: Yes.

BRODIN: -- sustainability is one of the biggest drivers for us to get cost and price down. And when you look at it, it's not that difficult, right? If you manage to make the flat pack flatter, you will save cost.

If you find a way to save material, it will save cost. If you build in circular flows, you save cost.

If you have renewable energy in your production and your transport, you will save cost.

So again, for us today, actually sustainability is one of the big business driver. Here we are. Beautiful, democratic design with a flexibility.

Now you have to try it and see if you like it.

QUEST: It's classic isn't it.

BRODIN: It is. It actually has the flexibility as well. So it's built for comfort. It should be safe.

QUEST: What could possibly go wrong?

BRODIN: Nothing.

We made it. So thank you so much.

QUEST: Thank you very much.

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KINKADE: I do wonder how long it took them to make that in real time.

Well, stargazers around the world are lifting their eyes to the skies to witness 2025's first supermoon. The larger, brighter display occurs when a full moon coincides with the moons closest approach to earth.

Well, this was the view in Bogota, Colombia. And this was the view over Pakistan where crowds gather to mark the luminous moment.

This particular full moon is often referred to as the harvest moon in the northern hemisphere, to its close proximity to the autumn equinox.

Well, thanks so much for joining us. I'm Lynda Kinkade. Great to have your company.

CNN NEWSROOM continues in just a moment with my friend Rosemary Church, who's back after her break.

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