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Growing Memorial At The Scene Of Shooting Despite Freezing Temps; Interview With State Senator Zach Duckworth (R-MN); Two-Thirds Of Americans Battle Ice, Snow, And Subfreezing Temperatures; New Yorkers Brave The Winter Storm; Oklahoma City Faces Extreme Winter Storm; Video Analysis Contradicts DHS And Border Patrol Claims. Aired 6-7p ET

Aired January 25, 2026 - 18:00   ET

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JESSICA DEAN, CNN ANCHOR: Well, that is good news. And hopefully they get to enjoy it and that everybody stays safe. I know a lot of people working really hard to make sure that is the case.

Mayor Frank Scott, Junior, thank you so much for your time. We appreciate it.

MAYOR FRANK SCOTT JUNIOR, LITTLE ROCK CITY: Thank you so much.

DEAN: Good to see you.

A new hour of CNN NEWSROOM starts right now.

ANNOUNCER: This is CNN Breaking News.

DEAN: Welcome into a special breaking news edition of CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Jessica Dean here in New York. And tonight we are following the deadly -- the fallout of the deadly shooting of 37-year-old Alex Pretti, a Minneapolis resident and ICU nurse. He was shot and killed by a federal border patrol agent on Saturday.

Minnesota's Governor Tim Walz, giving this strong rebuke of the Trump administrations tactics in his state.

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GOV. TIM WALZ (D), MINNESOTA: I've got a question for all of you. What side do you want to be on? This side of an all-powerful federal government that can kill, injure, menace and kidnap its citizens off the streets, or on the side of a nurse at the VA hospital who died bearing witness to such government?

We have got children in Minnesota hiding in their houses, afraid to go outside. Many of us grew up reading that story of Anne Frank. Somebody is going to write that children's story about Minnesota, and there's one person who can end this now.

(END VIDEO CLIP) DEAN: That message for President Trump coming as CNN reports multiple Homeland Security officials are furious over the handling of the fatal shooting yesterday. One official telling CNN, quote, "The department needs a law enforcement leader, not a sycophant."

Now, a number of videos that are circulating online captured that incident. They were captured by eyewitnesses. And we're going to play one for you now. We do want to warn you, it is disturbing to watch.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Get the -- (EXPLETIVE DELETED) people. The (EXPLETIVE DELETED) is wrong with you? Honestly.

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DEAN: You see, it all happens very quickly. And as we note, the video analysis shows that agents took away Pretti's gun before he was shot. Again he had a license to carry. And although DHS has said he was threatening officials, there has so far been no evidence, no video evidence, that CNN has been able to review that proves that.

The federal government, in fact, is offering a very conflicting account from that of state and local officials. So here's what Border Patrol chief Gregory Bovino had to say earlier today.

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GREG BOVINO, BORDER PATROL COMMANDER-AT-LARGE: The victim, the victims are the Border Patrol agents. I'm not blaming the Border Patrol agents. The victim are the Border Patrol agents. The suspect put himself in that situation. The victims are the Border Patrol agents there.

Follow directions of law enforcement, follow directions of law enforcement in an active crime scene. It was very evident he didn't want to do that. Very evident that the other individuals didn't want to do that. And, you know, it's too bad the consequences had to be paid because he injected himself into that crime scene.

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DEAN: CNN is covering this story from all angles. Shimon Prokupecz is on the ground in Minneapolis and joins us with the latest.

And Shimon, we hear from Gregory Bovino there, talking about consequences. And he is drawing this line saying the consequence apparently to him is death. And this as so many people there in Minneapolis are really outraged based on you and Sara Sidner's reporting and others that what they saw and what they know they saw is very different than what they're hearing from the federal government.

SHIMON PROKUPECZ, CNN SENIOR CRIME AND JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Yes. And it's one of the things that has so many people here concerned is that they feel that the federal government is not telling the truth. They see with their own eyes what happened here. And that's why we're seeing such a huge response in this incredible community here in Minneapolis.

I want to do something a little different here, Jessica, because I think we've been focused so much on what story is of the officials. But look at this community. I'm going to get out of the shot so David here can show you. This is where they've been gathering all day today to place flowers to light candles. At moments it gets so silent here as people are using this as a way to come together.

We're seeing people, you know, hug each other here. David, if you could show over there. This is a moment where people feel that they need to come together here. They need to, in many ways, quietly express here their frustration and really their sadness and their fear over what happened here.

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And so this is what we're seeing, this outpouring of love for Alex. Many people here don't know him. We're seeing nurses and health care workers show up here just to lay flowers, light these candles, leave signs. People at times crying here. They are in fear of what has happened here. But certainly that is not stopping them from coming out and showing their love for Alex and their sadness over what has been happening in their city.

And Jessica, if I can, I just want to bring in Mary here. I've been talking to her.

You're a health care worker. You work here in Minneapolis.

MARY, HEALTH CARE WORKER: That's correct.

PROKUPECZ: How has -- how have things been here for you?

MARY: It's been heavy. We're exhausted. Those who work in the hospital, they know how exhausted we are. We hear from our patients day in, day out. And now that we see another fellow health care worker who was just there to help somebody, it hits hard. I'm not saying that what happened to Renee Good didn't hit me hard because I'm a mother, too. But just seeing what happened to him yesterday just hit me hard.

So I can say we're exhausted, but we're in community, just like you see. This is Minnesota. This is who we are. I live by myself and I knew I needed to be here because I needed to be with my community.

PROKUPECZ: What would your message be to the federal government if you could say something, if they could hear you. What would you want to say?

MARY: Yes, just leave us alone. We're exhausted. We're tired. We know how to take care of our own people here.

PROKUPECZ: Thank you so much, Mary. Thank you for talking to me.

MARY: Yes. Thank you.

PROKUPECZ: So there you go. I mean, that is how people feel here, Jess, right? They're tired. They're tired of living in fear. They feel it everywhere they go. People are afraid to leave their homes. Restaurants are locking doors. We went to have lunch. The door was locked. It's not locked. It's locked because they're afraid that Border Patrol agents, ICE agents are going to show up, and they're not going to know how to handle it. That's how people are living here.

DEAN: Yes, it sounds like, yes, just a lot of fear throughout the community.

Shimon, thank you for that reporting. We really appreciate it.

Joining us now, Minnesota Republican State Senator Zach Duckworth. He also serves as a major in the Minnesota Army National Guard.

Thank you so much for being here with us. I first just want to get your reaction to where we are today one day after this fatal shooting, which is the second fatal shooting that we've seen by these federal agents in your home state of Minnesota.

ZACH DUCKWORTH (R), MINNESOTA STATE SENATE: Sure. And thanks for having me. I think what we're seeing is a culmination of weeks of sort of exhaustion and frustration, you know, that's been compounded by another tragic event. It's always terrible when someone loses their life. And the people of Minnesota, I think, wisely, are asking for leaders to pause, take the rhetoric down, calm the situation and return the focus to where it should be, which is keeping us all safe. And I think that's where things currently stand here in Minnesota.

DEAN: And you are a member, as we noted, of the National Guard. What's being communicated to you? And do you think there's a role that the National Guard has to play here in de-escalating things?

DUCKWORTH: Sure. I do happen to be a member of the Guard. I don't speak for them, of course, I have to say that, but as everybody knows here in Minnesota, in the Twin Cities, specifically, the Minnesota Guard has been active over the last few years with similar missions. And my brothers and sisters in uniform have always done a phenomenal job stepping up to protect the constitutional rights of folks, support law enforcement, and ensure that peace is something that can be hopefully achieved to calm things down and return folks back to a sense of normalcy.

We don't like to be involved or be the face of anything, but we are here if and when called upon to help when needed.

DEAN: Yes. And you mentioned past deployments. How does this compare to other moments of civil unrest that we've seen in Minnesota recently? I know you were deployed during your first legislative term in 2021 to 2022. But how does this moment compare to what you've seen there in your home state previously?

DUCKWORTH: You know, I'd say the biggest difference other than the weather happens to be the fact that, you know, before it was more of local law enforcement, and incidents with the community and interactions with demonstrators. And this happens to be obviously more focused on the federal government and law enforcement officials with those departments and agencies, which is a different dynamic, one that we haven't had before.

And I think that many people are trying to figure out how to navigate. How can we ensure that our local law enforcement officials and elected officials and our folks in the federal government can actually work together with one another to do what's best on behalf of all of our collected constituents and citizens, rather than maybe operating independently of one another, or in a way which isn't conducive to trying to achieve the outcome that we all would like to see?

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DEAN: Yes. And so on that note, do you support the Minnesota attorney general asking this federal court to issue a restraining order against the Trump administration's immigration enforcement there in Minnesota?

DUCKWORTH: Well, what I would prefer to see is, you know, folks, rather than entrenching in their respective sides, you know, kind of find a way to come together. And I think that's why whether it's the governor in combination with the attorney general and whatever leaders at the federal level need to just push pause on the rhetoric right now. And, you know, throwing rhetorical bombs at one another, and find a room somewhere to have a conversation to say, hey, what we're doing isn't working.

We still want to apprehend people who are not here legally that are violent criminals. They should be the priority. But at the same time, we have to stop with the interactions and the confrontations with folks on the streets that are leading to tragedies, leading to tragedy. So how can we do that? How can we come together to figure out that path forward? And that's really what I'd like to see, rather than kind of more political theater, to be honest with you.

DEAN: And I hear you on that. How do you think that happens? It is turned up so hot right now. How do you think that actually happens where this can deescalate?

DUCKWORTH: I think you're starting to see a lot more people come out and ask for just that, you know, whether it's folks here at the local level or others in Congress or other areas of the government or in the community, saying, you know, when are we going to finally admit that, although we may support the mission here, the way it's being carried out just isn't -- it's not effective.

And that's not to say that our folks in law enforcement aren't good at their jobs or aren't good people. It's just that the way that it's happening and playing out and with folks getting involved in law enforcement operations and such, we have to find a way to do a better job to allow folks to carry out that mission so that other folks aren't getting caught up in the middle of it and leading to instances that are absolutely regrettable. And I think we can do that. It's been done before. We just have to get the right leaders to speak up to one another and then to their respective constituents and supporters to find that balance and to create that environment that is much safer, but does allow for law enforcement to do the job they need to do.

DEAN: All right. Minnesota State Senator Zach Duckworth, thank you so much. We really appreciate it.

DUCKWORTH: Thank you.

DEAN: Still ahead, more breaking news as a massive winter storm hits the U.S., causing major road headaches, freezing power lines, even triggering tornadoes in parts of the country. We're live with an update on what to expect over the next 24 hours.

You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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DEAN: We continue to follow breaking news here. This historic winter storm battering two-thirds of the country this weekend. It is creating catastrophic conditions in a lot of places. The storm bringing heavy snow and ice, soaring power outages, bitterly cold temperatures, subfreezing conditions in places like Mississippi and North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Texas.

Across the country, more than 900,000 homes and businesses are currently without power. And you see Tennessee really taking the brunt of that with almost 300,000 outages. More than 11,000 flights have been canceled today, 4,000 more have been delayed.

I want to bring in meteorologist Derek Van Dam, who is joining us now live from Louisville, Kentucky.

Derek, it looks like a beautiful sky behind you in Louisville, but boy, it looks cold.

Oh, no, we can't hear Derek. We're going to try to get him back. While we do that, let's go now to Charlotte, North Carolina, where an ice storm warning is in effect until 1:00 p.m. tomorrow. Dianne Gallagher is there.

Dianne, how are things?

DIANNE GALLAGHER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, I would have told you a few hours ago things had vastly improved. And maybe that was the calm before the storm, because in about the past hour, we've seen freezing rain. And this here was that sort of crunchy slush before and now it is ice because of the freezing rain. You can hear my feet. You can see I'm not making footprints as I walk on it.

It is frozen solid. We're seeing this across the streets as well. You can see where earlier sleet that had fallen, some little bits of snow, some freezing rain had pretty much melted because so many people were, against the advice of experts, driving on the roads here. But now the concern is that the freezing rain is going to sort of sandwich this and envelope and seal it down in this icy glaze. The concern being, of course, we're going to see what we've seen in other parts of the south because of this storm, like in Mississippi and in Tennessee.

Now, in some of those places, we have seen an absolute catastrophic amount of ice. The images coming out of there are just unreal. Bringing down trees and power lines in Nashville, Tennessee, alone, more than 200,000 power outages, at least 40 broken power poles. In Mississippi the images are stunning. It doesn't look like the Deep South. Everything coated in a half inch of ice in some communities.

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And look, that is what the governor of North Carolina, you can see that right now they're trying to mitigate this. There are people shoveling. They've been out here salting, trying to get rid of some of this right now, as you can still see little bits of this freezing mist happening. The governor of North Carolina has been warning people here saying we're not out of the woods yet. He notes that the major concerns do remain with the freezing rain, potential high winds, prolonged low temperatures. That means difficult travel and potential power outages.

We talked with Duke Energy, who said that they are afraid that they could have widespread power outages if, in fact, this freezing rain causes icy conditions like what we've seen in other parts of the south. They have about 18,000 workers on standby who are ready to roll they say as soon as the conditions allow. But they warned it still could be days before they could get to anybody.

Look, it's cold out here, especially for those of us who live in the south. We're not used to this, but it did not stop people from showing up today to show their support for the Buddhist monks and their furry companion, Aloka the Peace Dog, as they set out on day 92 of their Walk for Peace. They left Raleigh in icy conditions today, trading in their bare feet and robes for ponchos and boots.

But they had people still meeting them along the way, trying to wish them well throughout their journey. Make sure that they were warm enough and that they were all right as they attempt to promote compassion and peace. They have finished their walk for the day. They are down for rest tonight, but say they do plan to continue even throughout this storm -- Jessica.

DEAN: Wow. And, Dianne, that ice you showed us so thick. That can be such a problem when it shapes up that way.

Dianne Gallagher, in Charlotte, North Carolina, thank you so much for that report. We appreciate it.

We're going to take a quick break. We have more breaking news on the other side.

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DEAN: We continue with our breaking news coverage now out of Minneapolis, where federal agents shot and killed 37-year-old Minneapolis resident Alex Pretti yesterday. That incident captured on video, which you can see here. There are many videos of this incident, but there are also many questions that still remain. And federal officials are disputing what happened, offering a different account from local and state officials and from, frankly, what these videos show.

This is the second deadly shooting to take place in Minneapolis this month. And here with us now, CNN senior legal analyst and former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York, Elie Honig.

Elie, it's good to have you here. As we walk through some of these big outstanding questions around this case, and I think right now one of the central questions is getting our arms around the legal standard for a federal agent to justifiably use force like this and if this was an appropriate use of force.

ELIE HONIG, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: So, Jess, any time we have a use of lethal force by any law enforcement official, as we have here, here is the key legal question. Did that official reasonably believe that the use of force was necessary to prevent an imminent risk of death or serious bodily injury?

Now, a couple of things. This is what we call an objective standard, meaning it's based on what was known to a reasonable police officer at the time. It's not based on things that may have been knowable only afterwards. And also the risk here must be imminent, meaning immediate, very close at hand, and it cannot be a risk of just any injury. It has to be a risk of death or serious bodily injury.

So it's a very high bar. That is the legal standard that applies whether it's a state, county or federal law enforcement agent involved. So that's the standard that would apply here to DHS officials.

DEAN: Yes. And then this line between obstructing a law enforcement operation and legally observing something or protesting. Walk people through that.

HONIG: So a person is permitted to observe a law enforcement operation. A person is permitted to videotape a law enforcement operation. A person is permitted to make noise and blow whistles. If, however, a person is standing in the way of or interfering with a law enforcement operation, that's over the line. However, you played earlier a clip of Gregory Bovino saying, essentially, this whole thing happened because Alex Pretti was obstructing.

If a person is obstructing, they can be physically moved using the least amount of force necessary to move that person. They can be charged with obstruction. It does not, however, open the door to assault or to a use of lethal force, as we just discussed. So Bovino's explanation here I think is based on a false legal premise.

DEAN: Right. And so knowing all of that, knowing that there have been many calls for a full investigation and also at the same time state and local authorities have had to sue the federal authorities because they said they've been at the crime scene, moving things, et cetera, where do you see this going in terms of getting to the truth of it? HONIG: Well, investigatively this has already become a bit of a mess.

And we saw the same thing with the Renee Good fatal shooting last week. The way this normally works is you will have a couple of things going on. You will have the agency, the involved agency, DHS, doing an internal administrative investigation. Were the rules followed? Were the policies observed? Does there need to be discipline or removal of this officer?

But, separately, in any case like this, you would have an investigation for potential criminal charges. Did it cross that line that I laid out earlier?

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However, the problem here is two problems. One, the feds have essentially said we're not going to work with the state authorities, which is something you would always do in these cases. There's always a cooperative effort. And two, we've heard leading officials, the leaders of DHS, Kristi Noem and Greg Bovino, already come out and make statements that, A, appear to be false based on the video, and B, undermine any notion of there being a true independent investigation.

So they've been unclear thus far about what investigation is happening. But what's happening here is highly abnormal.

DEAN: Yes. Highly abnormal. And I think that's a key takeaway.

Elie Honig, great to have you. Thank you for that context. We appreciate it.

HONIG: Thanks, Jess.

DEAN: Hundreds of thousands of power outages reported tonight as a monster winter storm piles, heavy snow and dangerous ice across much of the country. The Oklahoma City Police chief is joining us next, update us on conditions there.

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DEAN: We continue to follow this historic winter storm that is still battering two-thirds of the country as we speak, creating catastrophic places in some -- catastrophic conditions in some places.

Let's bring in meteorologist Derek Van Dam, who is in Louisville, Kentucky.

Derek, tell us how things are going there. It looks painfully cold.

DEREK VAN DAM, AMS METEOROLOGIST: It really is. And I don't want to, like, make fun of it, but we are using every possible layer that we have available to us to try and keep our -- not only ourselves warm, but our equipment warm so we can broadcast during this.

This is the hidden danger that is going to impact so much of the eastern half of the country once the snow and once the ice comes to an end. And speaking of that, I'm going to try and set the scene here behind me. I've got the Clark Memorial Bridge, Kentucky, on the south side of the bridge. Indiana on the north side of the bridge. We've got the Ohio River directly behind me. And if you see there behind me and behind the Clark Memorial Bridge, there's some breaks in the clouds.

That is an indicator that this is the end of the winter storm, at least in terms of the precipitation. But as I'm speaking, I can feel the mercury in the thermometer quite literally dropping. Get this, over the next couple of days, we're going to have more than 50 percent of the U.S. population that will experience subzero wind chill temperatures. That is not only cold, but that's dangerously cold.

And for the people who are in this crippling ice storm right now that have lost power, nearly a million as of last count, that is going to be a real concern because they're not going to have any way of heating their home if they don't have natural gas, for instance. So this is going to provide some serious challenges across the state here where I am at in Kentucky. There's over 100 warming centers.

And I'm urging people across the hardest hit areas that have lost power to not only check on your loved ones, but take advantage of the warming shelters that are in place in your community if you have one and you've lost power because you'll need it. This is a flash freeze. So once we get this, you know, large snowfall totals out of the way in New York City and in Boston, which, by the way, in Boston could top a foot and a half by the time it's all said and done, we will see this precipitation lock in place with this arctic air that will settle in.

And that's really what concerns me, because, remember, we've got a quarter, a half, even up to an inch of ice in some hardest hit locations. Central, northern Mississippi, the Carolinas, southeastern portions of the country, in the northeast Georgia, the Appalachian Mountains. These areas have that encasing of freezing rain. And when this arctic front blasts through, the winds, pick up the temperatures drop. And that will take down more power lines and more tree limbs. And so that will be a real concern here going forward.

Look, it's frigid out here, but we're going to do our best to stay warm and continue to report to you.

DEAN: Yes, it is. It is important that everybody takes these temperatures really seriously.

Derek Van Dam, as you just walked us through, thank you so much for that.

Back here in New York City, it has been a mix of snow and sleet for hours now, between seven and 10 inches of snow has already fallen here. Temperatures have plunged well below freezing, and city officials believe the extreme cold may be linked to the deaths of at least three people.

I want to bring in CNN's Gloria Pazmino, who is outside in New York City. Gloria, it is 18 degrees here. Feels like four degrees. Give us a

sense of what you've seen over the last several hours and what we're dealing with right now.

GLORIA PAZMINO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Jessica, you know, you can't overstate what Derek just described about how dangerous the storm is. In the last hours -- in the last hour or so, conditions have significantly deteriorated here in New York City. It's gotten a lot windier. It is very cold, and we have freezing rain that's coming down now mixed in with sleet.

We're standing right next to Central Park. Officially, it has gotten eight inches of snow so far since the snow started falling early this morning. So there's a lot of snow. It's very beautiful. But as we are saying, it is also very dangerous. Despite that, a lot of New Yorkers came out today to try and enjoy the scenery. Take it all in, do a little bit of sledding. A lot of kids were out with their parents in the park earlier today. We talked to some of them. Take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, we tried to get sleds and we couldn't find any, so we Googled how to sled without a sled. And these came up. My son thought the shallow ones would be best. And then we'll try the lid as well.

PAZMINO: OK. So do you go in the sled or -- how do you go?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. You go in, you sit in the sled and then.

PAZMINO: OK. And hope for the best.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We've never skied Central Park. I live, you know, like six blocks from here. I've always wanted to do it.

PAZMINO: How many times did you go down?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know, like 20. Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. Feels like 10.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. Like a lot. Yes.

PAZMINO: Now tell me, like, did you have a technique? What was like --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sometimes we dove face first, sometimes we just went on our butt.

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PAZMINO: So, again, Jessica, you know, it is important for people to just be careful while they're out there now that we have a lot of snow, the ice really weighing branches down. A lot of the sidewalks are not yet cleaned. Thousands of sanitation workers trying to keep the roadways clear.

Mayor Zohran Mamdani asking people to stay indoors as much as possible so that those workers can do their jobs. Tomorrow, New York City public schools will remain closed. Students will be doing classes remotely. The mayor telling me earlier this morning that also was a decision about safety, so that people don't have to travel in these dangerous conditions -- Jessica.

DEAN: All right. Gloria Pazmino, thank you so much for your reporting.

And the south is seeing some of the worst impacts of this storm. Heavy ice knocking out power for hundreds of thousands of people from Texas to Tennessee,. And in Oklahoma City, record-breaking snow and ice covering the roads there, making travel quite dangerous.

Joining us now Oklahoma City Police Chief Ron Bacy.

Chief, thank you for being here with us. We are checking in with people all across the country. How is it in Oklahoma City? How are the roads? What's -- what are the conditions?

CHIEF RON BACY, OKLAHOMA CITY POLICE: Well, like most of the country impacted by this storm, it's very cold. We've had single-digit temperatures with the wind chill factor at minus -- below zero. Our roads are heavily impacted by snow. We have seen a spike in motorist assist with stranded motorists, traffic troubles, and those are people are just stuck in the snow basically.

Interestingly enough, the storm hit on a Friday evening. So from Friday at 5:00 p.m. until 6:00 p.m. tonight, our statistics were 37 collisions total, 24 non-injury, 13 injury, and thank God no fatalities. And we greatly attribute that to the fact that it was a weekend. Most people's obligations were nonexistent, whether it was school or work, extracurricular activities were canceled. And most importantly, our community listened and remained indoors and off the roadways.

Up until this point, it's still going to be determined what happens in the upcoming week. But the roads are still covered in snow, but we've had a great preparation from all of our city departments to help keep people alert and aware and to treat the roads.

DEAN: Yes, that preparation matters a lot. People listening when you tell them to stay off the road matters a lot. Obviously Oklahoma City, I mean, these temperatures are just so cold that come behind this winter weather. As you all look ahead to the next 24 hours, what are you focused on in terms of what's your biggest concern?

BACY: Our biggest concern with tomorrow being Monday are those people who are thinking about returning to work or to school or other things that would increase any traffic on our roadways, and we would encourage people to stay home or in as possible until we get these roads cleared and get past some of this snow and get some of it off the roadways, and until it melts. DEAN: Yes. And listen, you guys are also first responders. You can get

called to emergencies. How are you all making sure you can keep doing your jobs in these conditions?

BACY: Well, an officer who doesn't get to the scene or any emergency responder is -- doesn't help. So we take it slow and easy and do our very best to get there in a timely fashion but safely.

DEAN: Yes, that's -- that is good advice. That is good advice.

All right. Chief Ron Bacy, thank you so much. I hope everyone stays quite safe there in Oklahoma City. We appreciate your time.

BACY: Thank you.

DEAN: And we're going to be right back.

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DEAN: That scene in Minneapolis where ICE agents shot and killed 37- year-old Alex Pretti on Saturday, now, you see there a place where the community is gathering with people laying flowers and lighting candles. Earlier today, hundreds of people protested on the plaza across from city hall in single-digit weather, demanding federal immigration agents leave the city one day after they shot and killed Pretti.

Now, a number of videos have since emerged of that shooting from various angles, contradicting the version of events that has been repeatedly given by Trump officials.

CNN's senior video producer Gianna Toboni walks us through those videos.

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GIANNA TOBONI, CNN SENIOR VIDEO PRODUCER (voice-over): Federal immigration officers fatally shot a man Saturday in Minneapolis. He was an ICU nurse who worked at a local Veteran Affairs Hospital. Another controversial killing by U.S. immigration agents and the second U.S. citizen killed this month.

CNN analyzed cell phone footage from multiple angles. Taken together, they appear at odds with the Department of Homeland Security's initial claims about the lead up to officers firing on Alex Pretti.

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Around 9:00 a.m. Central, video captures two people approaching a federal immigration officer in front of an unidentified vehicle. The sound of whistles is blaring in the background.

Alex Pretti enters the frame here. He's filming an officer interacting with protesters and waving a car through. Fifteen seconds later, Pretti yells --

ALEX PRETTI, SHOT BY ICE AGENTS: Do not push them into the traffic.

TOBONI: In their statement, DHS said that an individual approached officers with, quote, "a nine-millimeter semi-automatic handgun."

This video seems to show officers approaching Pretti instead of the other way around. We'll see later that Pretti does appear to have had a gun in his waistband, but this video shows he didn't have a gun in his hand, only a phone.

Video from this white car shows an up close angle of a federal immigration officer pushing one protester, then three seconds later, he pushes Pretti. And then, as the camera comes into focus, you see the same federal officer push a third protester with the orange backpack. Pretti raises his hand and turns away just as the officer sprays him with a chemical irritant. You see Pretti and the other protester trying to help the person with the orange backpack.

You can see here an officer pulling Pretti off of this person. Three more officers join and then two more. Pretti is on the ground under them. One officer in a tan beanie can be seen repeatedly striking Pretti's head with a metal can. You can see an officer in a gray jacket walk into the frame. There isn't a gun in his hand. Seconds later, officers shout --

The officer removes the gun from Pretti's belt. The officer steps away from the scene, carrying a firearm seen here in his right hand. Then gunfire.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The (EXPLETIVE DELETED) you do this?

TOBONI: At least 10 shots rang out. We looked back at the scene from different angles and slowed down the footage. This officer wearing a black beanie can be seen drawing his firearm and pointing it in Pretti's direction. We can't see his gun when the first shot is fired, but we can see that this officer fired the second shot.

In this angle, you see a second officer also had his gun drawn, and here he's pointing his weapon at Pretti as we hear gunshots, though it isn't clear if he's the one firing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What the (EXPLETIVE DELETED)? Did they (EXPLETIVE DELETED) kill that guy?

TOBONI: Pretti collapses onto the ground as the officers scatter backwards from around him. The same agent in the black beanie from earlier can be seen firing five final shots as Pretti lies there motionless. Nobody approached his body for 24 seconds. When officers do return to Pretti, they appear to begin searching his body.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where's the gun?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my god.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He had a gun. TOBONI: Video shows that about a minute after Pretti collapsed,

immigration officers asked for medical support.

When CNN asked DHS about the officer removing the gun before the shooting, DHS repeated their earlier statement, quote, "Officers attempted to disarm the suspect, but the armed suspect violently resisted."

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DEAN: CNN senior video producer Gianna Toboni joins us now live.

Gianna, thanks for being here. This happened so quickly. When you watched this video, you realize it was really just a matter of seconds. But these videos are crucial in helping people understand what happened. They're going to be crucial in the investigation. And there's also the question of, you know, who will be leading this investigation, but the videos will play a key role

TOBONI: No question. I mean, these videos are the strongest evidence that's out there right now. In this day and age, you know, it's common that you have so many people filming an event at once. And so our team was able to really get access to all these videos, verify them, and really slow them down frame by frame. So you can -- you can really put together, you know, a millisecond to millisecond play by play of what transpired.

And yes, as you mentioned, you know, to the extent that local authorities are able to investigate, they will certainly be using this video as evidence.

DEAN: Yes. And it's become increasingly clear that as it stands right now, what we see in these videos, especially with the report you did does not support and very much contradicts what we are hearing from Trump administration officials about what they say happened. After you viewed these videos extensively, you've heard what federal officials have been saying. How struck have you been by just how at odds those two versions are?

TOBONI: They've been completely at odds. You know, one of the claims that we mentioned in the piece is that in DHS' statement, they say that, you know, Pretti was carrying a nine-millimeter handgun.

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And in all of these videos that we have, you know, that are over the course of minutes, we can see that he's directing traffic with one hand, and he's having -- he's filming with his cell phone in the other hand. When he's pinned on the ground, you can see, you know, an immigration agent pull the firearm out of his waistband so it's not in his hand. So certainly there are several claims that are, you know, contradicted by this clear video evidence.

DEAN: Yes. Again, it is seeing with our own eyes.

Gianna, thank you so much. We really appreciate it. TOBONI: Thank you.

DEAN: And thank you for joining me. I'm Jessica Dean. Our breaking news coverage will continue with Kaitlan Collins and Anderson Cooper after a short break. Have a great night, everyone.

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