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ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: Hello and welcome to our viewers joining us from all around the world. I'm Rosemary Church, Just ahead.

Trilateral talks resume in Abu Dhabi, but there are new questions about Russia's interest in peace with Ukraine.

Donald Trump says Iran's Supreme Leader should be very worried about the rising tensions between the two countries.

Plus, a foreign leader who's never been mentioned in the Epstein files could face political turmoil because of the documents.

And all eyes are on the hockey rink at this year's Olympics, thanks to a recent TV sensation.

UNKNOWN (voice-over): Live from Atlanta, this is "CNN Newsroom" with Rosemary Church.

CHURCH: Good to have you with us.

And we begin in Abu Dhabi, where the second day of peace talks between Ukraine, Russia and the U.S. is now underway, that's according to Ukraine's top negotiator. He says the trilateral talks the day before, on Wednesday, were substantive and productive. They focused on specific steps and practical solutions, including a possible demarcation line.

The U.S. is being represented by Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff and President Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and other officials. The Kremlin says Russia will continue its so-called special military operation in Ukraine until Kyiv, quote, "makes the appropriate decisions in the negotiations."

Meanwhile, Ukraine's air force says Russian drone strikes killed at least 12 people and wounded 50 others on Wednesday. The country was already reeling from Russian attacks the day before.

Ukraine says it wants a dignified and lasting peace. CNN's Fred Pleitgen is in Moscow with more on the Russian side of the talks. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

FREDERIK PLEITGEN, SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I think for the Russians, those security guarantees are also an issue as well. The Russians, of course, have for a very long time said that they believe that the root causes of what they call their concerns around Ukraine need to be addressed in any sort of final agreement. And, of course, those security guarantees for Ukraine are things that could be interpreted by the Russians as encroaching on their own security.

So the Russians will certainly want to have a say in that and how that goes forward, what kind of security guarantees, for instance, the United States could provide to Ukraine, also other allies as well. Of course, one of the things that the Russians have said they would be very averse to would be any sort of NATO troops or European troops on Ukrainian soil. So those are certainly details that would have to be worked out.

But definitely one of the things that seems the most tricky in these negotiations appears to be the territorial question, that of what sort of concessions the Ukrainians would have to make as part of any sort of agreement, what the Russians maybe would be willing to give back to Ukraine of land that their troops currently stand on. All of that definitely issues that could be quite difficult to reach an agreement on in these negotiations. Nevertheless, the Ukrainians are saying that they believe that the fact that these talks have now been extended to another day, are going to take place on the 5th of February as well, is already a good sign.

The chief negotiator for the Ukrainians, Rustam Umareff, he came out after the negotiations, and he said that they were, as he put it, quote, "substantive and productive with a focus on specific steps and practical solutions." So already in a stage where they're talking about practical solutions, nevertheless, of course, both sides acknowledging there are still big hurdles to overcome.

And the Russians, of course, also saying that they are going to continue what they still call their special military operation, meaning, of course, their war efforts in Ukraine until a final agreement is reached.

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CHURCH: Earlier, I spoke with former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, William Taylor, and I asked him what needs to be done to force Vladimir Putin's hand and end his war in Ukraine and what more President Trump could be doing to pressure Putin to agree to a ceasefire.

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WILLIAM TAYLOR, FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO UKRAINE: Putin has to be pushed. He's going to have to be pressured.

Without that pressure, he's not going to go for a ceasefire. He's not going to negotiate seriously. And you asked the right question. What can President Trump do? A lot, it turns out.

Turns out President Trump has a lot of leverage over Putin, and Putin knows it, Rosemary. Putin's very aware that President Trump can put a lot of pressure on him economically through cracking down on the shadow fleet that is abating the Russian sanctions, the Russian export of oil, getting around those sanctions.

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President Trump has demonstrated he can go after those tankers. Even if there's a Russian submarine right next to it, he's gone after them. So that's number one, Putin knows that.

The second thing, and Putin knows this, Trump can put pressure on Putin militarily. That is, President Trump has thought carefully and considered seriously providing Tomahawk missiles to the Ukrainians.

He's not done that yet, Putin knows he hasn't done that. Putin talked him out of it earlier.

Trump can do that, Trump has leverage.

CHURCH: Just ahead of these trilateral talks in Abu Dhabi, Russia attacks civilian infrastructure and power plants in a massive strike on Ukraine. And it's continuing those attacks and has said it will continue those attacks. So what does that signal to you about President Putin's desire to end this war?

TAYLOR: The question answers itself. Putin is not interested in answering and ending this war.

He has made it very clear in all of his actions, in all these attacks on the Ukrainians during the dead of winter, when it's the coldest it's been in four years, and Putin attacks the energy to make Ukrainians suffer cruelly. He's not interested in peace, he's interested in dominating Ukraine.

And so he's made that very clear.

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CHURCH: A nuclear weapons treaty between the U.S. and Russia is set to expire today. And that's raising fears of another nuclear arms race.

Russia says it's prepared to counter any potential threats in the meantime, though it remains open to talks. The new START treaty was signed back in 2010. It limits the number of long-range nuclear warheads both countries can deploy.

Russia says the U.S. has not responded to its proposals to extend the treaty. President Trump has previously brushed off the treaty's expiration, suggesting a better deal may eventually be done. Ukraine accuses Russia of trying to manipulate the issue to intimidate with threats of nuclear escalation to weaken support for Ukraine. As the U.S. and Iran gear up to hold nuclear talks in Oman on Friday, President Trump issues a strong warning to Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei during an interview with NBC News. CNN's Kristen Holmes has our report.

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KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN SR. WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: President Trump on Wednesday said that he had heard Iran was looking to rebuild their nuclear program and leveled a threat at the Supreme Leader.

TOM LLAMAS, "NBC NIGHTLY NEWS" ANCHOR: Should the Supreme Leader in Iran be worried right now?

DONALD TRUMP, U.S. PRESIDENT: I would say he should be very worried, yeah. He should be. As you know, they're negotiating with us.

LLAMAS: I know they are, but the protesters have said, you know, where are the Americans? You promised them we would have their back. Do we still have their back?

TRUMP: Well, we've had their back, and look, that country's a mess right now because of us. We went in, we wiped out their nuclear.

So that's the question, if we want peace in the Middle East.

HOLMES: Now, this kind of rhetoric is the way President Trump has approached foreign policy. We also know that they have built up this armada outside of Iran, and they are continuing to use the threat of U.S. military as they go into talks on Friday between U.S. officials and Iranian officials.

Now, we are told that President Trump has all options on the table, but right now he is still looking to go the diplomatic route. So, of course, this again does appear to be some kind of posturing from the president, similar to what we saw in Venezuela in the months leading up to the actual capturing of Maduro, using the weight of the U.S. military, the power of the United States to threaten as part of a negotiating tactic just days before these talks.

Kristen Holmes, CNN, the White House.

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CHURCH: As the U.S. is preparing to talk to Iran, a top human rights activist is pushing back against the regime from behind bars. The family of Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Narges Mohammadi, says they've received reliable information that she has started a hunger strike.

She's reportedly protesting her unlawful detention and her prison conditions. The family is concerned because she has a history of medical issues, including heart attacks.

The death toll from Israeli strikes keeps rising. Nearly four months into a ceasefire in Gaza, medical officials say at least 21 people were killed on Wednesday, including three children and a paramedic. Israel says the strikes were a response to an attack that left one of its soldiers wounded and that one of the targets was a Hamas militant who took part in the October 7th, 2023 attacks. More than 500 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli strikes since the ceasefire went into effect in October.

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Still to come, fallout over the Epstein Files intensifies in the U.K. Why some in parliament are second-guessing the prime minister's judgment. That's just ahead.

Plus, tensions between the U.S. and Cuba reach their highest level since the Cold War. But some Cuban expats believe it could lead to good things in their homeland. We'll explain.

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CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer says he regrets appointing Peter Mandelson as ambassador to Washington.

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Mr. Starmer is under fire for appointing Mandelson after his ties to Jeffrey Epstein were made public, he now faces a criminal investigation after the latest drop of Epstein Files implicated him in further scandal. It's known that Mandelson had a close friendship with Epstein. Mandelson is now accused of passing market-sensitive information to the late sex offender after the 2008 financial crisis.

Newly released bank statements also reveal that Epstein made payments totaling some $75,000 to accounts linked to Mandelson between 2003 and 2004. A spokesperson for Mandelson said he does not have, quote, "any record or recollection of receiving payments in 2003 and 2004 or know whether the documentation is authentic."

British lawmakers have agreed to release their own files relating to Mandelson's appointment as ambassador. M.P.s have now called the Prime Minister's judgment into question.

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KEMI BADENOCH, BRITISH OPPOSITION LEADER: The whole house will be disgusted by the latest revelations about Jeffrey Epstein. All of us want to see his victims get justice. But the political decision to appoint Epstein's close associate, Peter Mandelson, as Britain's ambassador to Washington goes to the very heart of this Prime Minister's judgment.

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CHURCH: CNN's Melissa Bell has the latest on the scandal rocking British politics.

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MELISSA BELL, CNN SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: This is a man who's been at the heart of the labor machine, of course, now for decades, who was appointed Washington ambassador by Keir Starmer. And that question of his judgment, of course, hugely embarrassing now, and one that the Conservative Party intends to make political hay with.

Now, what we heard there was Keir Starmer announced that the inquiry is now in the hands of the Metropolitan Police. But he also pledged to Parliament today that he would make all that he had within his possession available to fully understand what we knew or the British government knew about Peter Mandelson.

KEIR STARMER, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: Mandelson betrayed our country, our Parliament and my party. Mr. Speaker, he lied repeatedly to my team when asked about his relationship with Epstein before and during his tenure as ambassador.

I regret appointing him. If I knew then what I know now, he would never have been anywhere near government. And that is why, Mr. Speaker, yesterday, the cabinet secretary, with my support, took the decision to refer material to the police, and there is now a criminal investigation.

BELL: We've learned so much over the course of the last few days about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. And this has been something that we've seen with a number of different people who've been involved or named, cited in these documents in his death by a thousand cuts.

It was the initial revelations from the Epstein files that had caused Peter Mandelson to lose his job as ambassador to Washington back in September. The latest series of documents suggest that the nature of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein was more complex still than anything he'd admitted.

So little by little, we find out these increasingly damaging things about his relationship. And there is likely to be a lot more to come to light.

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CHURCH: Cuba says it's ready to have meaningful talks with the U.S., but not if they include changes to its government. Cuba's deputy foreign minister made the announcement in an exclusive interview on CNN Wednesday.

The U.S. has had an embargo on Cuba since the late 1950s. And lately, it's been trying to starve the country of its oil supply, creating power outages and long gas lines. U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio says the United States would like to see a regime change, but it won't necessarily try to make it happen.

But U.S.-Cuban tensions are a sign of hope for some Cuban expatriates in Spain. As Pau Mosquera reports, they have some ideas about how to make changes in their homeland.

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PAU MOSQUERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Fifteen years after moving to Spain, Chef Daime Hernando still prepares lunch every day with the same goal in mind.

DAIME HERNANDO, HEAD CHEF, HAVANA BLUES (through translator): To be as authentic as possible to traditional Cuban food.

MOSQUERA (voice-over): She has been chef at the family restaurant since she moved to Madrid from Guantanamo in southeastern Cuba. The last time she went home to visit was in 2019.

HERNANDO (through translator): Honestly, lately I've started to feel a little hopeful that things could change, that conditions might improve, and that I'll be able to return to Cuba. I want to show my daughter where I was born, where I grew up.

MOSQUERA (voice-over): That hope driven in part by mounting pressure from the United States.

MARCO RUBIO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: There's no doubt about the fact that it would be of great benefit to the United States if Cuba was no longer governed by an autocratic regime.

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MOSQUERA (voice-over): Something the Cuban community in Spain is keeping a close eye on.

YUNIOR GARCIA, CUBAN ACTIVIST AND PLAYWRIGHT (through translator): There's a mixed feeling since the worst thing that could happen to Cuba is for nothing to happen at all.

MOSQUERA (voice-over): It's been more than four years since activist and playwright Yunior fled the island. He was harassed and threatened by the government and its supporters, who covered his windows with Cuban flags and blocked access to his home.

Punishment for organizing anti-government demonstrations. He was allowed to leave, but some of his family stayed behind.

GARCIA (through translator): I left my son when he was a meter and a half tall. He was my little boy. My father died in Cuba without me being able to say goodbye to him.

MOSQUERA (voice-over): That pain, not enough to destroy his hope of returning, especially now, as a potential turning point for Cuba becomes a possibility.

GARCIA (through translator): Leadership in the island has weakened compared to previous years, and that raises the chances that the regime won't survive mounting pressure. The hope is that any change comes at the lowest possible cost to Cuban lives.

MOSQUERA (voice-over): A sentiment shared by many, given U.S. President Donald Trump's focus on Latin America. TRUMP: We are dealing with the Cuban leaders right now.

MOSQUERA (voice-over): Even if there's some skepticism about the ultimate outcome.

MASSIEL RUBIO, CUBAN ARTIST (through translator): We can't call it positive change yet, because we don't know what will happen, but at least there's a chance that things might start to shift.

MOSQUERA (voice-over): Artist Massiel Rubio Hernandez believes the only way to ensure a positive change for Cuba is to make sure civil society is involved in talks between Washington and Havana.

RUBIO (through translator): If those people were part of the dialogue, well, there would be representation of those who will actually be affected by the change, to let them express what they truly want.

MOSQUERA (voice-over): Come what may, Cubans in Spain hope that any change, whatever form it takes, helps restore the country and improves life for generations to come.

Pau Mosquera, CNN, Madrid.

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CHURCH: The Trump administration is pulling some federal agents out of Minneapolis. Why the president says immigration enforcement might use a softer touch in the future. That's just ahead here on "CNN Newsroom."

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CHURCH: Welcome back to "CNN Newsroom," I'm Rosemary Church. I want to check today's top stories for you.

The second day of peace talks between Ukraine, Russia and the U.S. is now underway in Abu Dhabi. Ukraine's top negotiator says the talks on Wednesday were substantive and productive. The Kremlin says Russia will continue its so-called special military operation in Ukraine until Kyiv, quote, "makes the appropriate decisions in the negotiations."

As tensions soar between the U.S. and Iran, President Trump says the Iranian supreme leader should be very worried. He told NBC News that if Iran intends to revive its nuclear program and build new sites, quote, "we're going to do very bad things to you." Iran and the U.S. are expected to hold nuclear talks in Oman on Friday.

British lawmakers have agreed to release documents surrounding the appointment of former U.K. ambassador to the U.S., Peter Mandelson. The former official is currently embroiled in a scandal after his name appeared in the latest release of Epstein files. Mandelson was fired from his position as ambassador last year and in the last few days resigned from both the House of Lords and the British Labor Party.

President Trump is saying his administration could use a softer touch on immigration enforcement. He spoke with NBC News' Tom Llamas on Tuesday, reaffirming his focus on getting really bad criminals out of the country and suggested that he plans to expand his law enforcement surge to five unnamed cities in the future.

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LLAMAS: Mr. President, speaking of Minneapolis, what did you learn?

TRUMP: I learned that maybe we can use a little bit of a softer touch, but you still have to be tough.

These are criminal. We're dealing with really hard criminals. But look, I've called the people, I've called the governor, I've called the mayor, spoke to him, had great conversations with him.

And then I see them ranting and raving out there literally as though a call was made.

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CHURCH: The President also said Minneapolis residents, Renee Good and Alex Pretti, were no angels, but he's not happy that they were shot and killed by federal agents.

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LLAMAS: You mentioned Renee Good and not Alex Pretti not being angels. Do you think any of that justified what happened to them, though?

TRUMP: No, I don't. It should have not happened.

It was a very sad to me. It was a very sad incident, two incidents. And, you know, they mentioned the one now.

They don't mention the other. Well, I think they were both said. And, you know, who feels worse about it than anybody? The people of ICE.

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CHURCH: Meanwhile, the Trump administration's border czar says he's starting a drawdown of personnel from Minneapolis. Tom Homan announced 700 of the roughly 3000 federal agents will be leaving the city immediately.

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TOM HOMAN, WHITE HOUSE BORDER CZAR: We want to get back to the normal operational footprint here.

Well, that depends on the people out there putting up illegal roadblocks. That depends on people that want to intimidate and interfere and put hands on ICE officers. Tone down the rhetoric.

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CHURCH: Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey welcomed Homan's announcement, but insisted he will keep pushing for a complete ICE withdrawal.

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MAYOR JACOB FREY, MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA: He's right that a softer touch has been required. The drawdown of both federal agents, as well as the implementation of body cameras, is obviously a step in the right direction.

That being said, the continued presence of 2000 federal agents in a city that only has 600 police officers is still not de-escalation. So we have been very clear that Operation Metro Surge needs to end.

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CHURCH: And now to an emotional and tearful plea from "Today" anchor Savannah Guthrie and her siblings, days after their mother's apparent abduction from her home near Tucson.

Eighty four year old Nancy Guthrie was last seen Saturday night and remains missing. On Wednesday, an increased law enforcement presence was seen outside her home in what the Pima County Sheriff's Office called a follow up at the property. Then came a gut wrenching video from her children.

In it, Savannah Guthrie had this response to reports of a potential ransom note.

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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE, "TODAY SHOW" HOST: We need to know without a doubt that she is alive and that you have her. We want to hear from you and we are ready to listen. Please reach out to us.

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CHURCH: President Donald Trump says he is directing all federal law enforcement to help the Guthrie family and local officials in finding Nancy.

Well, from teammates to enemies, NHL players will soon face off against each other at the Olympics as they return to the games for the first time in more than a decade. We'll have that in just a moment.

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CHURCH: Welcome back to CNN. This is your Business Breakout and taking a look at the markets in Asia. You see, the KOSPI is down nearly four percent while the Hang Seng is trending up.

And a look now at the business headlines.

The "Washington Post" has laid off about one third of its staff. Sources say the sweeping layoffs include more than 300 employees in the newsroom and primarily affect the sports books and podcast units; several foreign bureaus are also being eliminated. The cuts come as owner Jeff Bezos has been pushing management to return the publication to profitability.

Nike is under investigation over claims it discriminates against white employees. The U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission says the alleged discrimination may have happened through the company's Diversity, Equity and Inclusion initiatives. The federal agency has asked Nike for records on layoffs, compensation and mentoring programs, Nike says it has already shared thousands of pages of information and says it's committed to fair and lawful employment practices.

Pizza Hut is closing hundreds of restaurants across the United States. The chain has been struggling in a competitive pizza market, recording another dismal quarter. Its parent company, Yum Brands, says Pizza Hut's same store sales dropped three percent in the U.S.

Professional NHL players are back at the Olympics after more than a decade. And this year they have more eyes on them than usual. And that may be due in part to the hit hockey romance "Heated Rivalry." But can the show's popularity translate into new fans?

CNN's Paula Newton takes a look.

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PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): After more than a decade on the bench, NHL players will be back on Olympic ice. Teammates here soon facing off as sworn enemies there.

We hit the ice with the New York Rangers and their newly minted Olympians. Mika Zabanijad for Team Sweden, J.T. Miller and Vincent Trocheck for Team USA.

NEWTON: Why do you think the NHL comeback to the Olympics is so important?

VINCENT TROCHECK, PLAYER, NEW YORK RANGERS AND U.S. OLYMPIC MEN'S HOCKEY TEAM: I think the NHL is the best league in the world and the best players in the world play in the NHL. And you want to see the best on best just like you do in every other competition.

J.T. MILLER, PLAYER, NEW YORK RANGERS AND U.S. OLYMPIC MEN'S HOCKEY TEAM: I think that's just good for the game in general. It's going to be another example of how far hockey has grown in the last couple of years.

NEWTON (voice-over): The game has grown and so have epic rivalries. Rangers coach Mike Sullivan will lead Team USA. MIKE SULLIVAN, COACH, NEW YORK RANGERS AND U.S. OLYMPIC MEN'S HOCKEY

TEAM: To have the opportunity to represent your country not only with your sport but also with the bigger team, that being the United States, is an incredible honor.

NEWTON (voice-over): An honor that needs defending after Team USA lost to Canada in overtime at last year's Four Nations Tournament.

This Olympic ad makes clear Team USA is out for revenge.

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UNKNOWN: You're going to Milan to bring home the biggest prize of all.

UNKNOWN: Canadian tears.

UNKNOWN: Exactly.

JULIAN MCKENZIE, STAFF WRITER, "THE ATLANTIC", AND AUTHOR OF "BLACK ACES": I think it would be ultimately like a dream matchup to see Canada, which has been the power at the Olympics versus America, which has been knocking on the door to kind of take that next step and try to see if they can beat a Canadian roster.

NEWTON: The excitement is really building to have these rivalries back on Olympic ice. I don't know what you're thinking. What about the heated rivalry off the ice?

UNKNOWN: Now I only need one thing. I need to win.

NEWTON (voice-over): The Canadian T.V. show is now a cultural juggernaut. It tackles a secret relationship between two closeted players as they try to navigate love and hockey, even the Olympics. It's another way for hockey to grow the sport.

In fact, it wasn't NHL players but "Heated Rivalry's" two stars who were tapped to be Olympic torchbearers. The show is racking up millions of viewers and in a stunning admission, the NHL's commissioner is one of them.

GARY BETTMAN, NHL COMMISSIONER: I've watched all six episodes, I binged it in one night. I thought the storyline was very compelling and a lot of fun because, you know, I could see where they were, you know, picking at things that we had done in the past.

NEWTON (voice-over): The test for the NHL will be converting fans of the show into fans of a league that has never had an openly gay player.

MCKENZIE: I think the culture of the sport still has ways to go to make everyone feel comfortable expressing who they are. It's insane to see how this show has basically turned itself into an unstoppable bullet train. And the craziest thing about it is that the people who are driving this train are people who were on the periphery of hockey.

NEWTON (voice-over): And so for these games, players will be bringing the heat to the ice, hoping to win over newfound fans with a whole new appreciation of hockey's Olympic dreams.

Paula Newton, CNN, Tarrytown, New York.

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CHURCH: Competition is now underway at the Winter Olympics ahead of Friday's opening ceremony. Britain scored an early win in the mixed doubles curling tournament. Canada, Sweden and Switzerland were also winners in that event.

A power outage interrupted the preliminary rounds shortly after play began. The lights went out and the scoreboards went blank, but it didn't last long. The outage also delayed training for men's luge at a nearby facility.

I want to thank you so much for your company, I'm Rosemary Church. Have yourselves a wonderful day. "World Sport" is coming up next.

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