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Federal Warrant Executed In Nancy Guthrie Case, No Arrests Made; DHS Enters Partial Government Shutdown After Funding Talks Stall; Interview With Rep. Tim Burchett (R-TN); European Leaders Breathe Sigh Of Relief After Rubio Speech; More United States Military Assets Sent To Middle East Amid Iran Tensions; Immigration Raid Fears Driving Vendors Off Los Angeles Streets. Aired 5-6p ET

Aired February 14, 2026 - 17:00:00   ET

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PAULA REID, CNN HOST: You're in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Paula Reid in Washington. Jessica Dean has the night off.

Tonight, we're following the latest in the puzzling disappearance of Nancy Guthrie, the 84-year-old mother of "Today" show host Savannah Guthrie. It's day 13 in the search, and there have still been no arrests.

The Pima County Sheriff tells CNN law enforcement is continuing to wade through the more than 30,000 tips that have already come in.

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SHERIFF CHRIS NANOS, PIMA COUNTY, ARIZONA: I -- yes, I believe she'll be found. And I believe that we are working as hard as we can to do that as fast as we can. Sometimes it just doesn't work that way. But we are working hard.

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REID: Investigators are currently testing DNA that was found at Guthrie's property. Officials say it does not belong to her or anyone close to her. They're also testing several gloves that were found, some as far as ten miles away from her residence.

CNN's Leigh Waldman is on the ground in Tucson. She joins us now. So what do we know about where the investigation stands tonight?

LEIGH WALDMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well Paula, today has been much quieter than what we saw last night. Last night, it was a flurry of activity not far from where we are right now about two miles from Nancy Guthrie's home.

We saw dozens of law enforcement vehicles swarming a home there. We saw SWAT and forensic vehicles. We're now learning today that they were conducting a federal warrant, a search on a home there. And they also tell us that they conducted a traffic stop and

questioned a person but subsequently released that person as well, all within that same time frame.

But that just shows you how meticulously they're going after all of these different leads that they're following up on with the sheriff of this county here, Sheriff Chris Nanos was saying, every single time they get a lead now you can almost expect for them to have the same kind of widespread law enforcement response to it a flurry of activity as they pursue each and every one of these leads.

But they don't have much to go on. The biggest break in this case so far has been that doorbell camera video, where we saw a masked and armed man outside of Nancy Guthrie's home here.

And the FBI now describing him as a man with a medium build between 5'9" and 5'10". They're releasing that backpack that he was carrying that night. But really we have no person of interest. And at the bottom end of the day, we still don't know where Nancy Guthrie is.

Take a listen to part of a conversation that our colleague Ed Lavandera had with the sheriff here.

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NANOS: We have DNA, so if -- trust me, if we knew who it was we'd be on it. But we do have some DNA and we'll continue to work with those with the lab on that DNA analysis.

Every single lead is looked at. So some of the leads could be there's a white car, there's a white van, there's a white truck, there's an -- all -- ring cameras.

We go out, we get all those and we see pieces and parts. So we're just chasing down leads. I've got 400 cops out there chasing down 30,000- some leads.

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WALDMAN: A lot of leads to go into. They're still asking the community within a two-mile radius of Nancy Guthrie's home to submit any video that they have between January 1st and February 2nd that shows suspicious people or suspicious vehicles hoping to uncover who exactly is behind this and also to bring Nancy home, Paula.

REID: Leigh, I know you've been talking to neighbors. What have you been hearing?

WALDMAN: Well, neighbors in this community, their hearts are obviously broken. They're shaken up about what happened here. They can't quite wrap their heads around what happened to this 84-year-old grandmother.

There's been a growing tribute to Nancy, yellow flowers being left at her door to -- or left at her mailbox, rather to symbolize the hope and support.

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WALDMAN: But there's also some criticism of how this investigation has been handled. Take a listen to what one neighbor told me today.

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STEVE LIPPMANN, NANCY GUTHRIE'S NEIGHBOR: Absolutely wish they were giving more information. I think the sheriff is a very experienced veteran of law enforcement, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he's experienced with what this case is all about.

And I mean I feel like they got in, they invited the FBI in or the FBI came in pretty quickly, but maybe it wasn't quite quickly enough.

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WALDMAN: And Paula, it's important to keep in mind it's been nine days since we've had any kind of news conference. We're still waiting to hear more from the sheriff and also from the FBI.

REID: Leigh Waldman, thank you.

And CNN law enforcement contributor and retired FBI supervisory special agent Steve Moore joins us now.

Steve, you just heard that report from Leigh. What stands out to you from a law enforcement perspective tonight?

STEVE MOORE, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTRIBUTOR: Well, there's going to be a lot of -- a lot of issues between sheriffs and FBI not because of any disagreement on how investigations should go, but the fact the sheriff, as you heard in that last interview, the sheriff has a lot at stake here. That's an elected office. And sheriff's deputies are in the community every day.

So when there's a problem in the investigation or a perceived problem in the investigation it means a lot more to the sheriff's department than it does to the FBI.

REID: It's certainly not something that's uncommon in your experience.

MOORE: No. No. This is -- this is very much standard because there are different concerns between local law enforcement and federal law enforcement. It's not that the FBI doesn't care what the public thinks, but they are just homed-in on the crime, whereas locals tend to have to really be concerned about the public perception more.

REID: Well, there's certainly plenty of work to go around. Talk about the sheer number of tips that they have received. What is the process like trying to go through that volume of information?

MOORE: You know, that's something that the FBI has -- is pretty good at. And what you do literally is you get teams of people who are -- who do nothing on for 12 hours a day except go through leads. And they'll be a team that triages all the leads. And they'll put it into different categories, like aliens. Nope. And they'll have some that you don't need to follow up on at all.

Then you have some that are more crucial, more urgent. And you put those in an immediate section and you categorize them in between those two areas.

And then you have to have other teams that are sitting there literally just waiting for leads to go out and run. And so it is very, very time-consuming and manpower-consuming just to go through this amount of leads.

REID: Now as this investigation continues, time passes, how does the law enforcement approach change? Do the tactics shift?

MOORE: I would -- no, I would say that they drill down a little bit deeper on what they already have.

Your tactics aren't going to change, excuse me, but it's like, say you're looking for your keys in the morning. You go through the normal places. In about 90 percent of the time you find them right away because they're where they're supposed to be.

But after the first search, if you can't find them, you're not changing a lot about your search. You're just getting deeper into the same areas. Maybe it fell under this area, you know, things like that.

So the bureau and the sheriff's department are digging down more deeply on the DNA they found on the videos that has been covered.

And they are obtaining stuff like that video, which in a normal case, you wouldn't have gone through all that effort to get that video back up. But they are having now to, to dig really deeply into these cases.

REID: And you may have heard the sheriff say they have DNA. To a layperson, that certainly sounds like a big deal but from a law enforcement perspective, what does that mean for the investigation?

MOORE: The problem with DNA, and that's a good question, the problem with DNA is that it doesn't matter if you have their DNA, if there's no -- if there's no database to, you know, to compare it to.

You know, there's fingerprints everywhere. Everybody's got fingerprints on file somewhere who's an adult. But DNA, very few people are in any kind of DNA database. And that's usually only because the person is a sex offender and is forced to be in it.

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MOORE: So what they're probably doing is going through, like, familial DNA, the 23andMe, the DNA testing, and trying to find living relatives of this person who might be in the Tucson area. There's a lot that they can do with that.

REID: A lot of work they have ahead of them. Steve Moore, thank you. And still to come, the partial -- second partial government shutdown of 2026 is already here. Republicans balking at Democrats' demand for major changes to ICE and DHS. We'll talk to Republican Congressman Tim Burchett about where things stand.

Plus, America's top diplomat telling Europe its future is fully intertwined with that of the U.S. But some things have to change. We're live with reaction from Munich.

Stay with us. You're in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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REID: Another partial government shutdown has begun. As of midnight, the Department of Homeland Security and the multiple agencies and offices under its umbrella entered a partial government shutdown after Congress failed to strike a funding deal.

The Democrats and Republicans clashing over reforms to immigration enforcement. Nearly all of DHS' 272,000 workers will continue working, but many won't receive a paycheck until the lapse ends.

Republican Representative Tim Burchett of Tennessee joins us now. He serves on the House Foreign Affairs and Oversight Committees. Congressman, thank you for your time tonight.

I want to begin with the shutdown. What are you hearing from Republican leadership about these negotiations?

REP. TIM BURCHETT (R-TN): Well, they're ongoing, of course, but it's completely preventable. You know, in the Big Beautiful Bill, President Trump wisely put in funding for ICE, Customs Border and the border patrol.

A lot of people didn't know what was in there. I happen to, because I read the bill. But the shutdown, of course is going to affect FEMA and TSA. I just think it's very political and it's very cruel to people that live in red states because hurricane season is happening.

It'll hit, you know, you always see it down in Florida or Texas and along the eastern, southern -- southeastern area of our country. And those are primarily red states.

But of course, TSA is nationwide. It's going to cause suffering everywhere. And I'm just disappointed that Democrats aren't at the table. They did this once before and it hurt them. And it's going to hurt them again.

This is just a power grab, Ma'am, and there's no reason for it at all. We can come together and agree to what we agreed to in the beginning. But now it just seems to have changed all of a sudden and it's very unfortunate. It's just politics at its worst.

REID: So Democrats have released a list of demands. Do you see any room to compromise on things like agents not wearing masks, having I.D. visible or no enforcement in schools, hospitals and churches?

BURCHETT: Well, I think a lot of that is just hyperbole, Ma'am. The masks, you know it's amazing that they force this country to wear masks during COVID. But you want these agents to be hunted down, basically.

They want their names, they want their home addresses, they want everything. And that's just wrong. And the only reason they want those is so they can identify them to harass them at their homes and their families. And it puts their families lives in danger.

Again, this is -- this is politics at its worst. And it's fear mongering at the very least. But the thing about, you know, the -- and they have racial profiling and things like that in there.

Well, that that's just totally in error. There's no proof of any of that. And once again, I believe this is just politics. And they're just using the fear factor to do this. We're running into an election year, and this is what you do to get in power.

And Ma'am, it's not about doing what's right. And unfortunately, both parties are guilty of that at some point. It's just about staying in power and how they do it.

REID: Well, speaking of politics, as of now, the House isn't due back until Monday the 23rd. That's just one day before President Trump is set to deliver the State of the Union address. Does a partial shutdown risk undermining his overall message?

BURCHETT: I don't think so, Ma'am. I think -- I think the president is very -- is very adapted to this, to the way of Washington. And just the corrupt nature of it because once again, they're just playing politics and they're hurting people.

And that's not what it should be about. But it is -- it's just about power. And their hatred of the president. So no, I don't think -- I think he's going to talk about a strong border which we have, a strong economy which we have, prices have gone down on things like gasoline and eggs. You never hear them talk about those things anymore. And the Democrats have very little to hang their hat on.

Unfortunately, the Republicans are terrible at messaging, and that seems to be the biggest problem that we've had, because there's a lot of great things that we've done.

Energy independence, we're moving forward with the nuclear energy, those small modular nuclear reactors. Stuff like that's not real sexy, but it keeps us out of wars.

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BURCHETT: And I believe in those are -- those are some things that I think we can tout in America will be -- will be well-received with that.

REID: I want to talk to you about another important issue, voting and identification requirements. President Trump is insisting that voter I.D. requirements will be in place for this year's midterm elections, quote, "whether approved by Congress or not". I know you voted in support of the Save America Act this week. It now

heads to the Senate. Do you think that it will be in place by the midterms? And if it's not, would you support the president doing it via executive order?

BURCHETT: I think they will, Ma'am. I think the Senate, they're just -- it's just gamesmanship. Who -- you know, when you sign up to play Little League baseball, you have to provide a birth certificate. And that's all they want you to do when you sign up to vote, prove you're an American citizen. And then when you go vote, show an I.D.

I'm in Knoxville, Tennessee, and go down here on the corner of Tazewell Pike and Emory Road to the Weigels (ph). And I want to scratch off or a can of skull or a six pack of beer.

Guess what? I got to show an I.D. I don't buy any of those things, but if I wanted over-the-counter cough medicine, some of it you have to show an I.D.

And when and when the Democrats say it's racist or whatever, man, it's just the complete opposite of that. 85 percent of black folks think that this is needed. The minority community fully endorses this.

This is about power. This is about allowing illegals to vote. And that's all it really is. That's -- there's nothing more than that.

and to say that our minority community cannot produce an identification, to me that is racist. In the state of Tennessee and as many states across this country, you can go to your Department of Transportation and get an I.D. for free.

And even though you're not, you're not able to buy or drive a vehicle, folks that have disabilities, of course. It just gives them a valid state I.D. Everyone has one of those.

You go to an R-rated movie, you have to show a valid I.D. There is nothing wrong with that. And the Democrats are just playing games, man.

REID: Congressman though, if the legislation does not go through, would you support the president doing this through executive order.

BURCHETT: Yes, Ma'am, I would. I think it's that important I think it is that important. I think President Trump is correct once again in his assumption of this. This will save America where either party could be eligible to steal an election if they had a supermajority, Ma'am the way its structured right now.

Technology is changing so fast, we've got to get in front of this. I fully support Chip Roy and Mike lee's bill. I'm one of the co-sponsors in the House as you know.

I think it -- and it's a very clean, small, short bill. And it's very precise in what it does. Prove, you're an American citizen to vote and show a valid photo I.D. when you vote.

REID: Congressman Tim Burchett, thank you for your time tonight.

BURCHETT: Thank you, Ma'am. And hope you have a great Valentine's Day.

REID: Thank you. I'm here.

President Trump says --

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BURCHETT: Yes. I'm taking my wife. I've been saving up all, all year. Me and my buddy Troy --

REID: Good for you.

BURCHETT: -- and his beautiful bride Jackie. We're going to dinner.

REID: Oh, I hope you enjoy your dinner. And I'll see my husband and my girls after the show. Nice to see you, Congressman.

BURCHETT: Yes, Ma'am. Tell him I said to spoil you.

REID: I will tell him that. I will tell him that.

President Trump says he's sending a second aircraft carrier group to the Middle East.

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REID: Secretary of State Marco Rubio offering some reassurance today to European leaders, saying at a global security conference in Munich that the U.S. remains committed to its longstanding partnership with Europe.

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MARCO RUBIO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: Our home may be in the western hemisphere, but we will always be a child of Europe.

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REID: Rubio's comments earning him a standing ovation from European leaders even as he warned the historic friendship has some conditions. Rubio said the Trump administration stands ready to go its own way unless Europe assumes more responsibility for its own security and embraces the values held by the U.S.

CNN's Fred Pleitgen joins us now from Munich. Fred, what has the response been to Rubio's comments?

FREDERIK PLEITGEN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Paula, it was a big sigh of relief when you saw those standing ovations there in the crowd here at the Munich security conference. And I was speaking to a lot of the delegates who are here and

including some of the leaders of European countries. And they all said that they believe that there was that extended hand by the Trump administration, by Secretary Rubio, despite the fact, and you're absolutely right, he did utter a lot of criticisms of what he felt that European countries and the European Union were doing to weaken themselves, even saying that it could call into question the very civilization here in Europe.

So there was some pretty harsh criticism. But at the same time also saying that the United States does want to remain a partner of its European allies and go into the future together.

And of course, one of the big issues, as far as that's concerned is that ongoing war in Ukraine, Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

The secretary was asked about that as well. And he said look, the Russians keep saying that they want peace. But the negotiations, while there has been some progress to try and end that war certainly do remain difficult.

Now, the leader of Ukraine, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy he was also asked whether he believed that the Russians do want peace and are ready for peace. And here's what he had to say.

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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT: The problem is this. Putin is no longer interested in anything else. Putin does not live like ordinary people. He doesn't walk the streets. You will not see him in a cafe. His grandchildren do not go to the normal -- normal kindergartens in their hometown.

ZELENSKYY: He cannot imagine life without power or after power. Normal things do not interest him.

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Putin consults more with Tsar Peter and Empress Catherine about territorial gains than with any living person about real, real life. Can you imagine Putin without war?

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PLEITGEN: So, there are some pretty harsh words from the Ukrainian president directed at Russia's leader, Vladimir Putin. That, of course, as the Trump administration continues to push that process forward to try and end the war in Ukraine. In fact, just a couple of days from now, in Geneva, basically round around the corner from here in Munich, there is a new set of negotiations set to happen, trilateral negotiations within the Ukraine, Russia, and the United States as well, of course, led by the president's special negotiators, Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff. Paula.

REID: Fred Pleitgen, thank you. And new tonight, as Fred was just mentioning, sources telling CNN, the next round of nuclear talks between the U.S. and Iran are expected to happen Tuesday in Geneva.

U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and President Trump's son in law, Jared Kushner, are both expected to attend. And this comes as President Trump says he is dispatching a second aircraft carrier group to the Middle East, in case he is unable to reach a deal with Iran.

The USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group will join a mill a buildup of military assets in the region, adding increased pressure to the diplomatic talks.

We are joined now by CNN, political and global affairs analyst and Axios correspondent Barak Ravid.

All right, what do we know tonight about where these negotiations stand? What is the -- what is the goal for both sides?

BARAK RAVID, CNN POLITICAL AND GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: Hi, Paula. So, what we -- what we know for now is that earlier this week, White House envoy Steve Witkoff spoke to the foreign minister of Oman, Badr Busaidi, who is the facilitator of those talks, the mediator in those talks between the U.S. and Iran, and went through with him on several messages the U.S. had to the Iranians, which basically sort of give the idea of where the U.S. wants to go when it comes to a nuclear deal with Iran.

Witkoff did not send any paper to the Omanis, basically because, I think the U.S. realized that once there is a U.S. paper out there, it will be leaked. So, we went through this with him orally. And then, what the Omanis did is they took what they heard from Witkoff, put it on paper, and gave it to Ali Larijani, who is the Secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council. And even more important than that, he is the closest confidant to the Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei,

And they gave him the paper with Witkoff's ideas. He took it back to the city of Mashhad, where Khamenei is hiding in his bunker.

And when the Iranians will come back on Tuesday in Geneva and -- to meet the Americans, the Trump administration expects to get answers to the ideas that they relate to the Iranians through the Omanis.

REID: So, when we talk about moving this carrier strike group to the Middle East from the Caribbean, what does that tell you about the administration's priorities right now?

RAVID: So, I think what the administration is doing is it's moving in three parallel tracks. One track is the negotiation with the Iranians, the meeting on Tuesday in Geneva. Another track is the military buildup in the region, sending the USS Gerald Ford to the region. It will take, in my assessment, four to five weeks until it is in strike range from Iran, which means that there is time for negotiations.

And the third track is maximum pressure. And what I hear from U.S. officials is that they say in, you know, in the meantime, while talks are going on, and while we are doing this build up, we are going to try and put more pressure on the Iranians.

How we are going to crack down on Iranian oil exports? The main importer of Iranian oil is China. President Trump is expected to meet with President Xi very soon. I think, we are going to see in the next few weeks, U.S. diplomatic effort to get China to decrease the amount of oil it buys from Iran.

REID: So, is there a risk, if talks fail and Trump doesn't act with military force, what happens then?

RAVID: I'm not even sure that that's an option. I think, we are at -- in -- currently, I think, we have this binary situation of either a deal or a strike. I find it hard to believe that negotiations, how long they are -- I don't know how long they are going to continue, a month, two months.

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I don't feel, by the way, that the Trump administration is in a rush to go on a military operation. It has time, it only ended its first year in office.

But if negotiations fail, and if the Iranians reject the proposal the U.S. is going to give them, I think it is very unlikely that Trump will not order a strike.

REID: All right. Barak Ravid, thank you.

RAVID: Thank you.

REID: On Valentine's Day, vendors usually fill Los Angeles' street corners selling one of the most popular gifts, flowers. But this year is different. Wait until you hear why. You are in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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REID: Valentine's Day is here. And if you forgot to get something for your sweetheart, you can run to the store right now for some last- minute flowers or candy. But in Los Angeles, the Trump administration's immigration crackdown and ensuing ICE raids have scared many flower vendors and other sales people off the streets.

Julia Vargas Jones is there. Julia, this is interesting. With fears of ICE just aren't impacting people selling on the streets.

JULIA VARGAS JONES, CNN NEWSOURCE CORRESPONDENT: That's right, because, look, we are in the largest flower district in the United States, Paula. But that's also downtown Los Angeles, where a lot of those raids took place. So, yes, we are seeing a lot -- fewer vendors on the street, but this is a wholesale heaven. This is where flowers like this get sold. They are not a neat bouquet ready for your Valentine. Those are the ones that are made by those street vendors. Here, it's a little bit different. These wholesalers are trying, however they can, to make up for those sales, but it's just not quite hitting.

Some of them are saying that even on days that they just see ICE agents around downtown Los Angeles, they feel forced to close out of fear for themselves and for their customers. We spoke to the CEO of the California Flower Mall. This is what he said.

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MARK CHATOFF, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, CALIFORNIA FLOWER MALL: For the vendor side, they also want to come to work and feel safe and not be profiled by some action that might be taking place. And they are simply running their business. They are part of a ginormous economic engine here in Los Angeles. This is the largest flower district in the country, and it is very vital to not only the country, but also to the western United States as the gateway and also to the local economy.

These are job generators, taxpayers, people have homes, mortgages, you know, pay taxes. So, it's important that this American Dream stays alive.

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JONES: So, what we are seeing is a lot of these wholesale vendors turning to direct -- to consumer. They are selling teddy bears, they are selling cards, they are selling arrangements with the gift wrapping and the ribbons, trying to lure those people off of the street in here and trying to diversify a little bit of their inventory.

Paula, still, $29 billion are estimated to be spent this Valentine's Day. Record breaking in the U.S. So, still, a little bit of time to get those flowers spent a little of a cash.

REID: That's a beautiful bouquet. I hope you get to expense it and take it home.

Julian Vargas Jones, thank you so much.

In Minnesota, borders are Tom Homan says the largest immigration operation in U.S. history would be ending after a tumultuous couple of months. There have been weeks of protests, tense confrontations between protesters and officers and the killings of Renee Good and Alex Pretti. The announcement has been met with both relief and skepticism by many state leaders.

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JACOB FREY, MAYOR OF MINNEAPOLIS: Obviously, it's a step in the right direction. There will be hundreds of thousands of people that are extraordinarily relieved, and at the same time, we'll believe it when we see it. GOV. TIM WALZ, (D-MN): We are cautiously optimistic, but the fact of the matter is, they left us with deep damage, generational trauma. They left us with economic ruin, in some cases.

FREY: This has been an operation that has been devastating, even catastrophic.

WALZ: The federal government needs to pay for what they broke here.

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REID: Jason DeRusha joins us now. He is the host of "DriveTime with DeRusha" on WCCO radio in Minneapolis. Jason, how are the residents of the Twin Cities reacting to this announcement?

JASON DERUSHA, RADIO HOST, WCCO: Well, it's a certain degree of relief. Right? The sun is shining in the Twin Cities right now, it's 50-plus degrees. There is a lightness in our community, but that skepticism is still there. There have been so many times and CNN has been all over this, the times that there has been initial reporting, initial information from the federal government that has turned out to be a straight up lie.

And so, we'll believe it when we see it.

REID: How has the community live in changed since this operation?

DERUSHA: You know, I think there is a an unbelievably empowering sense of the fact that people coming together, average people do have some say so. I believe that regular people standing up. You know, a lot of what we saw on television was the clash, the clashes that happened between like observers and ICE agents.

But what was going on behind the scenes was neighbors helping neighbors, churches figuring out ways to get food to people who were afraid. And then, when you saw 20, 30, 40,000 people in the streets when it was 20 below, 40 below, wind chill, I do think that said something.

And I do hope that this renews some hope that through peaceful protest and standing up out of love for your neighbors, that it can be meaningful and it can change public opinion, which is ultimately what led to the change this week.

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REID: And we heard the governor earlier talking about the economic impact. The state was hit hard with costs estimated to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars, including especially immigrant-owned businesses have been hit especially hard. What happens going forward with these businesses, will they be able to survive?

DERUSHA: You know, this weekend is a sign of hope, where you have that Valentine's Day bump in business. I was at a restaurant in downtown Minneapolis, where not only were they seeing a decline in business because locals didn't want to come out. But let's be real with all that's been going on here. Are you going to book a business trip to Minneapolis? Are you going to book a convention here? And so, individual restaurants have been down 20, 30, 40 percent month over January, over January.

I'm not holding my breath for the federal government to come and bail out our small businesses. I believe, just like the people of Minnesota and the people of America responded to what they saw here. It will be the people that will end up saving these businesses by just going out and donating and helping their neighbors who own businesses and showing up.

I don't think -- you -- nobody believes that the federal government is going to write a check for what they -- what the ICE surge did to this community.

REID: Yes, definitely don't wait on that check.

But let's talk about --

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DERUSHA: Right, right.

REID: Let's talk about what Minneapolis looks like in the weeks and months ahead just shortly.

DERUSHA: Yes, I think it is definitely going to be a discussion about what is immigration policy going to look like, what is cooperation with the federal government, and there is going to be a lot of healing. There are people that are so afraid. And this -- some parts of our state have experienced none of this, but other parts have had intense trauma in a state that has far too many of these incidents dating back to George Floyd.

REID: Jason DeRusha, thank you.

And the International Space Station is back at full staff, as the new crew just arrived. You are in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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REID: Happening now, four astronauts on NASA's Crew-12 mission have officially boarded the International Space Station. The crew finally crossed into the orbiting lab just a few moments ago. Their SpaceX capsule docked earlier today.

The crew's arrival brings the space station back to full staff after operating with a three-person skeletal team since mid-January. Let's bring in former astronaut Leroy Chiao.

Leroy, now that the astronauts have docked, what's the next step in this process? LEROY CHIAO, RETIRED NASA ASTRONAUT: Sure, will be -- there will be a familiarization period of a few days, especially for the new folks who were up there for the first time. But they have all been very well trained for their mission, so, they'll dive right in. Will be able to go back to full time experiment operations, you know, with only one American on board for a couple of months, or a month and a half.

You know, pretty much it's that person has been doing mostly maintenance and repair. I'm sure they have been doing some experiment operations. But now that we've got a full complement on board again, we can resume, you know, all the research work that has been a little bit delayed.

REID: Yes, this is an unusual situation, because of Crew-11's emergency medical departure, Crew-12, they are not getting the direct handover as usual. Does that affect the transition for the incoming astronauts?

CHIAO: It shouldn't affect the transition too much, because we kind of do a staggered rotation. That is half the crew leaves, you know, another crew arrives, partial crew, another crew arrives, and half the station inhabitants leave a week later.

So, they might miss a little bit of a transition period. But the folks on board now should be able to walk these, these new arrivals, through everything they need to know, all the little details on where some things are stashed, you know, but they should pretty seamlessly be able to transition.

REID: And does being understaffed affect their laboratory operations and research?

CHIAO: Yes, it's mostly the research work that gets put on hold, because, you know, you have got to do the scheduled maintenance and repair items that that, you know, go down. And so, I would expect that for the last six weeks or so, they have been under a reduced experiment schedule.

So, they are able to resume that and hopefully catch up as well.

REID: Now, these astronauts will be the first allowed to bring their iPhones aboard the International Space Station. What do you -- what do you do with your iPhone in space?

CHIAO: Well, it's things have changed quite a bit since I was there some years ago. And so, there is been live Internet for a while. People are doing social media from the station. Have been for many years. And so, I guess with your iPhone, you no longer have to do it on your laptop. You could do it on your phone, and you could -- you know, wire it in, I'm sure, into the -- into the system on board, and then, have more freedom to do things like that.

So, pretty exciting. I mean, you know, small thing, but, you know, little piece of home, I guess they can take with them.

REID: Yes, little piece of home also underscores that there really is no place you can go to it to escape your phone. What kind of projects are they working on, and what do we stand to potentially gain from this kind of research?

CHIAO: Sure. So, you can kind of broadly divide ISS research into two big categories. One is life science. We want to understand the effects of long duration space like particularly on humans, on living systems, and that will enable us to develop countermeasures to, you know, safely send astronauts to destinations like Mars.

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The second class of experiments is materials. We live -- we're interested in how materials form, what different things you can make in the absence of gravity. Of course, there are a lot of other experiments that go on as well. There is some fluid physics experiments. There is some plant experiments. There, you know a lot of other things too, but those are the two broad categories, life science and material science.

REID: Leroy Chiao, thank you.

CHIAO: My pleasure. Thank you.

REID: And we are learning new details about yesterday's operation at a residence near the home of Nancy Guthrie. We are live with the very latest. You are in the CNN NEWSROOM.

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