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Americans Fly Back To U.S. After Leaving Ship Hit by Hantavirus; Trump Not Happy About Iran's Response To U.S. Peace Proposal; Redistricting War Intensifies With Midterms On The Line; Polls: DEMS Gain Edge Over Republicans In National House Vote. Moscow Holds Scaled-Down WWII Victory Day Parade; New York Struggling To Reach Budget Deal Weeks After Deadline. Aired 7-8p ET

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JESSICA DEAN, CNN ANCHOR: You are in the CNN NEWSROOM. Hi, everyone. I'm Jessica Dean here in New York.

And breaking tonight, 17 Americans who were stuck on that cruise ship hit with the hantavirus are now in the air. They are flying back to the U.S. that plane just left the Canary Islands about an hour ago, heading to a quarantine facility in Nebraska. Health officials say none of the 17 Americans so far have shown symptoms. If that continues, those people could be able to go to their homes where they would be monitored daily over the next 42 days.

Now, not everyone is off that cruise ship just yet. Tinder boats will start bringing the remaining passengers to shore in the morning. We've also learned one French passenger became sick and started showing symptoms today while on their flight home to France. This was after they cleared medical screenings. In total, three people have died in the outbreak. Others have gotten sick from the virus, typically spread by rats.

CNN's Rafael Romo is at the CDC headquarters in Atlanta.

Rafael, a lot of questions about what happens now.

RAFAEL ROMO, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes. What happens next is quite a process. And let me tell you, Jessica, that process started early this morning because it took about 15 and a half hours from the moment the cruise ship approached the Spanish port of Tenerife in the Canary Islands until the moment the last group of passengers was transported to shore around 9:30 p.m. local time in the Canary Islands, or 4:30 p.m. here in the Eastern United States.

The first day of evacuations from the cruise ship at the center of a hantavirus outbreak concluded. Spanish Health Minister Monica Garcia said at a news conference a total of 94 people of 19 nationalities, including 17 Americans, disembarked from the MV Hondius, with Garcia saying the operation went according to plan.

The Americans are now headed home, but the evacuations are not over. The final two flights, which will evacuate people to Australia and the Netherlands will depart tomorrow, the health minister said with those passengers set to, imagine this, Jessica, spend yet another night on board the ship tonight. The plane heading for Australia is expected to depart around 6:00 p.m. local time on Monday, Garcia added.

And there in Tenerife with Spanish authorities was the director general of the World Health Organization who had a message for people who might be very concerned about the possibility of another pandemic.

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DR. TEDROS ADHANOM GHEBREYESUS, DIRECTOR, WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION: This is not another COVID, and the risk to the public is low, so they shouldn't be scared and they shouldn't panic. This is based on how the virus is behaving now because this virus is well known. And there are assessments that have been done. But not only that, this, you know, for several years there were assessments on the behavior of the virus. So that's why we say the risk is low.

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ROMO: In another development, the French prime minister said in a post on X that one of the five French nationals repatriated from Tenerife on Sunday showed symptoms of hantavirus while on board the flight returning them to France. The prime minister said that as a result these five passengers were immediately placed in strict isolation until further notice. This means that passengers are receiving medical care and will undergo testing in a full health assessment, he said.

France's prime minister also said that he will later issue a decree implementing isolation measures for close contacts -- Jessica.

DEAN: All right. Rafael Romo with the latest from Atlanta. Thank you for that.

And Dr. Celine Gounder joins us now. She's an infectious disease specialist and epidemiologist.

Doctor, you've also written extensively on the hantavirus. Thank you so much for being here with us to talk through all of this. Rafael just went through kind of where things are. What is your assessment of how effective the response has been so far to contain this outbreak?

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DR. CELINE GOUNDER, INFECTIOUS DISEASE SPECIALIST AND EPIDEMIOLOGIST: I think my biggest concern has been the lack of communication to the American public. We as clinicians did not receive a health alert until Friday afternoon. It seems to have been timed with the plans around the 17 Americans being returned home. But I think the American public had a lot of questions leading up to that as to how are these Americans going to be quarantined? What is the testing protocol?

And I think because of that absence of leadership and communication, that raised a lot of questions. People are understandably very scared coming out of the COVID pandemic and asking themselves, is this a replay of what we saw in 2020? DEAN: Yes. And to that end, I want you as the medical professional to

lay this out for people. How concerned should the general public be?

GOUNDER: Yes. The risk to the general public remains really low. Think of it this way. COVID was a wildfire. It spread through the air. People who did not have symptoms could still infect other people. And the entire world was fuel for the COVID virus.

Hantavirus is like a wet log in a stone fireplace. It requires direct, sustained contact with a sick person. The virus infects deep lung tissue so it doesn't get coughed or breathed out in large enough amounts to cross a room. Hantavirus is not a new virus. This is a virus we've been studying for decades, and infectious disease specialists understand how this virus moves the way, say, an engineer or electrician, might understand how electrical current moves through a wire.

So the material here, the virus here, determines the outcome. And every data point from the outbreak so far is consistent with what the science would predict.

DEAN: And so now we have these 17 Americans who are being flown to this quarantine center in Nebraska, where our understanding is they're going to be evaluated. And from that, it will be determined if they will be able to then go home and be monitored for some 42 days, or if they'll stay there in Nebraska. From the outside looking in, I think a lot of people go, wait a minute, shouldn't they just stay at the outbreak center in Nebraska?

Would you help people understand that process?

GOUNDER: Yes. So they're assessing the level of exposure. So, and how much contact, how close of contact, how intensive contact did they each have with known hantavirus cases. And this is in fact identical to what was done for Ebola back in the 2014 to 2016 epidemic in West Africa. I was an Ebola aid worker. When I landed at Newark Airport they gave us thermometers and cell phones and diaries to log our symptoms, to check in.

And then depending our level of exposure, we were quarantined differently. So my level of exposure was I had no known contact with somebody with Ebola without wearing protective equipment. So my level of risk was very low. And I could quarantine at home, which I did for three weeks. And so it's a similar kind of stratification of risk and determining what level of quarantine is needed accordingly.

DEAN: Yes. And what will it be like once, I mean, you kind of just went through what it was like for you, but this is -- they're going to an actual facility in Nebraska. How might that be different?

GOUNDER: Well, it depends. So some of them, the low risk people, would be allowed to quarantine at home, which was my experience. For those who are being kept at the National Quarantine Center, so this is the only federally funded quarantine center in the United States, they have experience with this kind of thing. They handled the quarantine of the COVID passengers on the cruise ship early in 2020. People may remember. I think people are having flashbacks to that

moment. But this center handled that quarantine and they have practiced doing that. The advantage here is hantavirus is actually a far less contagious infectious virus. So the stakes in that respect are lower. And the other thing that's really important here is for people who are high risk for developing severe hantavirus disease, they need to be near a medical center that has the capacity for ECMO, which is the heart lung bypass machine, because when they develop that kind of severe disease, that's the only thing that can save them. And so this is actually very much in their interest if they're at higher risk for infection.

DEAN: Yes. And I heard you at the top of our conversation talking about the lack of communication. You -- what you perceive as a lack of or could be better communication. How else would you kind of evaluate the CDC response to all of this?

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GOUNDER: Well, we have not heard from the HHS secretary. We have not heard -- we in fact don't have a confirmed CDC director. We finally heard from the acting director, Jay Bhattacharya, who's wearing two hats, in fact. He's also the NIH director. We heard from him today on Jake Tapper's show.

We don't have a confirmed surgeon general. The FDA commissioner has just been fired. We really have a massive void of leadership at the very top to communicate with the American public. And I think we should be having daily situation updates for the American public to understand not only what is the risk to us, but also what is being done to address the situation aboard the cruise ship.

DEAN: Yes. All right. More to come. Dr. Celine Gounder, great to have you on. Thank you so much.

And after days of waiting, Iran responds to the U.S. proposal to end the war. President Trump says it's totally unacceptable. We'll talk about where things stand right now. Plus, the president is set for a high stakes trip to China this week and a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping. We're going to break that down.

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DEAN: President Trump rejecting Iran's latest proposal to -- latest response, rather, to a U.S. proposal to end the war. Trump calling Iran's answer, in his words, "totally unacceptable." Iran says it sent its latest proposal through Pakistani mediators this morning, and it comes just days before President Trump's high stakes meeting with China's Xi Jinping.

The war with Iran and its disruption of global energy markets expected to be talking points during the president's two-day summit. Let's bring in CNN's Julia Benbrook, who's at the White House.

Julia, let's start first with Iran's response and what the president is saying. He isn't -- doesn't like it. Those were his words. He said he was not happy about it.

JULIA BENBROOK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right. How he sees this is very clear. He called it totally unacceptable and said that he doesn't like it. Now this comes after -- this response was later than he expected it to be. In fact, he and other administration officials said on Friday that they believed that they would hear back from Tehran on this proposal to end the conflict that same day.

He was even pressed at the time about how long it might take and if he thought that Iran was slow rolling it. And he essentially said, we'll soon find out. But now that this response is in, his full reaction today, I want to pull that up for you now. In it, he said, quote, "I have just read the response from Iran's so-called representatives. I don't like it. Totally unacceptable."

Now, we also know through reporting from Axios, that Trump did have a conversation today with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and that the two of them did discuss the Iranian response, as well as other issues. Trump said that he did think that call went well. These two have been in close contact throughout these peace negotiations.

And then to your other point, Jessica, this is a big week ahead for Trump. And as he travels to China, no doubt the war in Iran is going to loom over the war itself, but also the impact that this war has had. We do expect Trump to arrive in Beijing on Wednesday, Thursday morning. There is going to be a welcome ceremony, then a bilateral meeting with Xi Jinping, and then that's going to lead up to a state banquet.

White House spokesperson Anna Kelly said that this trip is going to be of tremendous symbolic significance, but that that is not the only goal here, that anytime the president travels, there are other things that he is working toward for Americans. And this will include trade, agriculture, all sorts of discussions around potential agreements there. So lots of questions when it comes to a potential deal with Iran about what's next. A big week and some big meetings ahead with other world leaders.

DEAN: Julia Benbrook, from the White House. Thank you for that.

And let's bring in former U.S. ambassador to both South Korea and Iraq, Christopher Hill.

Mr. Ambassador, thank you so much for being here with us on this Sunday. We really do appreciate it. I want to talk about this upcoming trip to China and how important this is, or what role it may play as President Trump tries to find an end to this war with Iran.

CHRISTOPHER HILL, FIVE-TIME U.S. AMBASSADOR: Well, first of all, a China trip is extremely important. It's extremely important to our economy. It's extremely important to just sort of the balance of great powers in the world. And so you like to have things well-planned. You like to have things, you know, the ink really dry on the papers. And I think we're going in there kind of calling a few audibles.

I think the major problem has been miscalculation after miscalculation of what the Iranians are prepared to do, how they are prepared to end this. And it's pretty clear that they're playing hardball. It's also pretty clear the president has no interest in going back to some kind of a bombing campaign. He's hit a lot of targets, very proud of that. It's hard to see how additional targets would change that.

And he certainly doesn't want to go in front of Xi Jinping with a bombing campaign going on in Iran. What he does need is Xi Jinping to support him. And I think he can get this support in terms of keeping the Straits of Hormuz open.

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It is pretty outrageous for the Iranians to think they're going to be able to control an international waterway. But the problem is he doesn't see a way forward. And judging from that reaction today you know, it looks like there are a whole lot of problems in the Iranian piece of paper, not only the fact that it was kind of late in arriving, but there are a whole lot of problems, and they probably involve some assurances they want to see about Lebanon and other issues.

DEAN: And you mentioned the Strait of Hormuz. How much of a topic do you think that will be between the president and Xi Jinping?

HILL: I think it's going to be a main topic. I mean, the Chinese depend on it. They have had workarounds. As you know, there's been over land shipments of oil to China. So there are some workarounds for them. But I think it's been very important for them to get this done. And they think that we kind of created this problem. I mean, obviously the Iranians could have closed this at any time, but we certainly incentivized them to sort of take no prisoners and do this.

I'm sure the Chinese are very upset about it. And, you know, we've got the whole world economy suffering, including our own. So I put that as number one. The fact that we're ready to bifurcate or leave for a second session, the whole nuclear issue suggests to me that the Iranians were not exactly ready to drop a nuclear weapon on the United States. And that's something that I think the administration needs to at least be honest with itself about.

But certainly this world economy issue, I mean, already when we've hit energy facilities in Iran, they've come back and hit energy facilities on which we and the rest of the world depend. So they are, you know, they're tough, tough group of people. And it's pretty clear, you know, you can start a war with them, but it's not going to be easy to end it.

DEAN: Hmm. Iran's ambassador to Beijing said today China could guarantee any potential agreement with the U.S. How might that work and how plausible of a scenario do you think that is? HILL: That would be kind of unusual. I mean, the U.S. has worked with

China before. I mean, I was involved with them on North Korea talks. Others were involved with them on Cambodian elections, things like that. This would require an amazing amount of cooperation with China. And certainly we haven't given anyone any reason to hope that that's going to work.

Now, that said, the Chinese really want this over. They have a great incentive to get this over. And if the Iranians have some thoughts on how China could be a guarantor, I think it behooves us to listen to them, because I think our bag full of ideas is getting pretty empty right now.

DEAN: One last issue I do want to ask you about is Taiwan and where you think that -- how you think all of this might have changed the situation around Taiwan. I mean, the U.S. has depleted its munitions in this war with Iran. What do you think? What do you think about that?

HILL: Well, I mean, obviously, any time there's a perception that we are not ready to do whatever we need to do anywhere in the world, there's a concern that that could enhance the possibility of instability. I still believe that the Chinese do not have an interest in going into Taiwan with a military attack. I'm not saying they rule it out. They obviously don't. They seem to plan for it all the time.

But I really, you know, looking at the world economy right now, looking at their own situation, I mean, China is beset with a few problems of its own. I just can't believe they would want to do that simply on the basis that they've heard the U.S. is a little low on ammo.

DEAN: All right, Ambassador Christopher Hill, great to have you here. Thank you.

HILL: Thank you.

DEAN: Republicans may be winning the redistricting battle right now, but that doesn't necessarily mean the party will definitely keep control of the House. Harry Enten runs the numbers. That's next.

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DEAN: House Democrats are scrambling after Virginia's Supreme Court handed Republicans a win in the redistricting tit-for-tat by blocking a referendum that was passed by voters that would have helped Democrats win up to four more House seats. Now, this was a major setback for minority leader Hakeem Jeffries and House Democrats. But he tells CNN Democrats can still win the House in November.

CNN chief data analyst Harry Enten runs the numbers on where things stand right now.

HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: Hey there, Jessica. Happy Sunday to you.

Look, the redistricting wars for the 2025-2026 cycle have taken a drastic turn over the last two weeks or so, and now I think it's fairly safe to say that Republicans will, in fact, win them when it comes to this cycle. But what exactly does that mean? Does that mean it's a nightmare for Democrats? Well, sort of, but not really.

Why do I say that? Well, let's just take a look at what it actually means. And we can best see this in terms of what we think Democrats will need to win the national House vote by in order to win control come November. You know, under the current lines, what we essentially think is they'd have to win the national House popular vote by less than a point. Basically, you win the national House vote, and then you win control of the U.S. House. That's what we would think under the current lines.

But under the redistricting lines, right, the redistricting lines, well, now with Virginia, Florida, Tennessee, the Supreme Court ruling, we think that Democrats would have to win the national House vote by, let's say, between three and four points in order to win House control come November. Now, that's a significantly wider margin, a significantly wider margin than what we'd expect under the current lines. The ones that, of course, the elections were fought under in November of 2024, but it's three to four points. It's not anything like ten points or anything like that. It just makes the road significantly harder for Democrats.

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But there is good news for Democrats. And that is you see this three- to-four-point margin right here. And what do they lead right now by in the National House Vote Polls? Well, their average lead well it's about six points, which you don't have to be a mathematical genius to know that six points is significantly wider than, well, three to four points. But that leaves Democrats with a much smaller margin for error, right?

It leaves them at the upper end of this range that if the polls, let's say the election were held today, if the polls were off by just two points, or if I were to actually draw that so that our viewers could actually see it, two points. Well, that means if there was an error two points in the wrong direction, Democrats all of a sudden might not win back the House at all. And more than that, on the eve of the election, we still have months and months to go.

So, these polls can change. But even on the eve of the election, you look, historically speaking, the real margin of error. You know, you look at all the errors, historically speaking, we're talking about closer to plus or minus seven points. So, what that essentially means is, yes, Democrats would be favored going into the elections today if in fact this were the polling average nationally, this six-point lead. But they'd be significantly the favorite would not be, they would not be anywhere near as big of a favorite as they were. Just say, let's say a few weeks ago and you can actually see this pretty well in the prediction markets, right? Because let's just take a look at the chance Democrats have to win the house in 2026. When you go back about a month ago and look at that, Democrats had an 86 percent chance. You look at it now. Well that that advantage is down to about a 74 percent chance. And that, of course, makes a whole heck of a lot of sense, given that the lines have -- are going to be redrawn heading in the election heading into the 2026 election, and a much less favorable way for Democrats than we thought that they were going to be.

So, the bottom line is this, Democrats in the catbird seat still, but not nearly the favorites that they once were, or at least what we thought they were going to be, just say a month ago. Anyway, Jessica, just want to say Happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there, including my own, and to the soon to be mothers as well. I think you know who I'm talking about, back to you.

DEAN: Very sweet, Harry, thank you so much.

After four years of fighting, President Vladimir Putin suggests the war between Russia and Ukraine could be nearing its end. But what might have to happen for that to reach its conclusion?

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DEAN: Tonight, Russia and Ukraine are entering the last day of a three-day ceasefire that was announced by President Trump. Trump said the ceasefire could be the beginning of the end of the more than four- year war between the two countries, while Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says there have been no missile strikes or air attacks today, he says activity has not stopped along the front lines.

The ceasefire coincided with a holiday in Russia commemorating the victory over Nazi Germany in World War II, and has come to symbolize the country's military strength. But missing this year were the displays of heavy military equipment, instead replaced by prerecorded videos broadcast on screens in the Red Square.

We are joined now by former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine William Taylor. He's also a distinguished fellow at the Atlantic Council. Ambassador Taylor, welcome. Thanks for being with us tonight. Last year, Putin was flanked by China's leader, Xi Jinping, and dozens of other foreign leaders. This was a very different scene this year. What do you read into the scaled back parade?

WILLIAM TAYLOR, FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO UKRAINE: Jessica, Putin was clearly afraid, he was panicked. He knows that Ukrainians have the ability to shoot deep into Russia, into Moscow, well past Moscow. I mean, they're going, they're going to the Ural Mountains with their fire.

So, he was afraid and as you say, there was no Xi Jinping there standing by his side to protect him. They were very few leaders there. And so, I think it demonstrated that that the Russian military is not doing well and the Russian leader is worried.

DEAN: That is, it's really, it's an interesting shift. He also told Russian journalists, this is Putin, that he thinks the war is approaching an end. Do you think there's any truth to that? What do you think he's getting at who that message is for?

TAYLOR: So, Jessica, the Ukrainians are actually doing very well on the battlefield. The Russians have lost the initiative. The Ukrainians have taken more territory over the last two months from Russia, taken back more territory than the Russians have gained. The Ukrainians have fired more deep strikes into Russia than the Russians have fired into Ukraine. There's a shift, as you say. There is a shift, a shift in momentum.

So, if Putin is starting to recognize that and if he's starting to indicate to his people, to the Russians that this might be ending soon, that could be a good sign. If he recognizes that he's going to lose.

DEAN: Yeah, and much of the U.S. attention and resources have obviously shifted to the Middle East with the war in Iran. Does Ukraine need the U.S. and President Trump in particular, as a third party to get negotiations moving again? Can Europe fill this void? Where do you see this going from here in the current environment?

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TAYLOR: So, Jessica, the Ukraine, I just got back from Ukraine two weeks ago, and they don't put much faith in these negotiations, no matter who it is leading it. The Americans apparently only have two people that can handle these negotiations. You say, as you say, they're otherwise engaged in Iran. And so, the Americans haven't shown the ability lately to get very much done. And as I say, the Ukrainians are not optimistic. They don't have much faith that that they're going to get any results going to come out of these things.

However, in response to your question, there are other nations that have sponsored some negotiations. The Turks have done this earlier. Emiratis have been useful and helpful in some of these prisoner exchanges. So, it can it can happen. The Americans do bring the ability to bring both sides together. At least that was the one in the past. But as I say, they're focused on other things right now.

DEAN: Yes, and you mentioned you were there. I am curious for you to tell us a little bit more about what you're hearing and what the kind of feeling is from the people you're talking to. Again, just underscoring what you were saying that the Ukrainians have been doing quite well on the battlefield and that Putin does appear to be somewhat, you know, frightened maybe is the word. I'll let you describe it based on what you know and have seen.

TAYLOR: So, the Ukrainians are feeling more self-confident. I would say, for a range of reasons, some of which we've already talked to. They're doing better on the battlefield than the Russians. They are firing deeper into Russia than the Russians are firing deep into Ukraine. But also, the big thing, Jessica, it's spring. They just got through a horrible winter, a horrible winter, the coldest in memory. The Russians were heartless or cruel in their attacks on the on the energy systems, meaning the Ukrainians went through with a terrible winter with no heat, no light, no electricity, no water, in some cases, no gas, so, it was terrible. And they've gotten through it and they're feeling much better about it.

The other thing is the Europeans. You mentioned earlier, the Europeans are stepping up. They've just provided $105 billion in a in a no interest, probably no payback loan. That means the Ukrainians are in good shape for the next two years. So, they're feeling much better. And apparently, as you say, Putin is feeling badly.

DEAN: All right, Ambassador William Taylor, always good to have you. Thanks so much, we appreciate it.

TAYLOR: Thank you, Jessica.

DEAN: Still to come, New York Governor Kathy Hochul announced she reached a budget deal. But has she? What's going on with that? We're going to have more on that ahead.

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DEAN: The New York state budget now nearly six weeks overdue. It's unclear when Governor Kathy Hochul will be able to put it to bed. Hochul announced the framework of a $268 billion budget Thursday, while admitting there were still some parts that needed to be worked out.

Now, the Democratic Speaker of the assembly said the governor's whole announcement was premature and that lawmakers hadn't even agreed on the total dollar amount yet. Let's bring in Jeff Coltin. He's the editor-in-chief of "City and State New York," and a former reporter and coauthor of the New York Playbook at Politico. Jeff, great to see you. Thanks for being here.

JEFF COLTIN, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, "CITY AND STATE NEW YORK": Thank for having me today.

DEAN: Yes, it's unusual to operate coming out saying we've got a framework and then, you know, the Democratic leader of the assembly saying, no, we don't. What's going on here? What do you take away from how things played out over the last several days?

COLTIN: Well, it's a little bit unusual. This has actually become a favorite tactic of Governor Kathy Hochul. And this is a reelection year for Governor Kathy Hochul. She's up on the ballot in November and she sees this as a negotiating tactic. So, the budget is already six weeks late in New York State. It was due April 1st. We are well into May, and this is Hochul's way of basically ensuring that she gets as much as she wants and as much as she can from the Democratic dominated legislature.

It's all Democrats in New York. You know, it's Majorities in both Houses of the Legislature and her as governor. But there's still a lot of disagreements. And, yes, this way is, is her way of strategizing and sure enough, she seems like she's going to come out pretty well out of the state budget.

DEAN: Yes, and so, okay, to your point, she has a number of policy priorities that she's going to want to make very clear as she's in this election year and telegraphing to voters what she's doing. Among them, restrictions on ICE and immigration crackdowns in New York State. Again, that's again, providing a foil to President Trump, to Republicans. So, give us a little more detail about how that dynamic of her being in an election year affects how this deal will ultimately be done.

COLTIN: Yes, well, look, she's guarding herself primarily from her right flank. She's got Republican opponent. She doesn't have a Democratic primary. So, the Democratic legislators are really pushing her to go tough on ICE and she is doing her best. Governor Kathy Hochul is doing her best to respond to the Trump administration's immigration policies without, as she would say, going too far to the left, going too far against that.

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So, what that means? I mean, were getting a really big immigration deal here in New York, Immigration Enforcement Deal. And although the details are still up in the air, what that looks like is a ban on ICE officers and all law enforcement officers wearing masks. We know that's been a really big issue as we've seen the Trump administration ramp up enforcement and ICE officers in particular, hiding their name tags, hiding their faces behind masks.

That's a big headline part of it. She's also banning cooperation agreements between local officials doing civil immigration enforcement for the federal government. They're called 287(G) agreements. And she's saying that's not happening in New York anymore. No civil immigration enforcement by local officials. And on top of that, they're also denying ICE permission from sensitive locations, so, schools, hospitals, libraries. Now, ICE is going to need a judicial warrant, and there's going to be a statewide ban effectively on showing up and doing immigration enforcement without that judicial warrant. So, it's a comprehensive immigration anti-ICE package by New York Democrats.

DEAN: Yes, and then, as you note, she also doesn't want to go too far left. We obviously have New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani here in, in New York who won his election on platform promises like universal child care, free and fast busses, affordable housing. There's just a lot in there that hinged on getting billions of dollars in tax increases that need to be approved by the state and other things that need approval from Albany and from the state government. How does that factor in to what Governor Hochul is going to be asking for in the budget? COLTIN: Yes, that's been a big sticking point as well. Mamdani ran for office on this platform of raising corporate taxes and on raising the personal income tax of people making more than a million dollars. He's getting neither of those, but there was a compromise between mayor Mamdani and Governor Hochul. And that's a "pied-a-terre" tax that is taxing second homes in New York City that are worth $5 million or more. And that was something that both the mayor, the Democratic socialist mayor and our more moderate Democratic governor could agree on. Because basically, it's not even targeting New York residents. It's targeting the ultra-rich that have second homes in New York.

Now, that said, there has been a lot of backlash, as we've all seen from those folks that have second homes in New York.

DEAN: Yes, it is. Theres just so many layers here. But Jeff, it's good to have you to kind of walk us through a little bit of, looking under the hood, as it were, as this budget comes to, to fruition and gets put together. Jeff Coltin, thanks for being here. We appreciate it.

COLTIN: Thank you for having me. Sure thing, Happy Mother's Day to my mother and to all.

DEAN: Yes, indeed. Thank you, Jeff.

And on this Mother's Day, Savannah Guthrie is sending out a tribute to her mother, who has now been missing for more than three months.

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SAVANNAH GUTHRIE, AMERICAN BROADCAST JOURNALIST AND ATTORNEY: My mommy. Miss you.

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DEAN: The video that you're watching is from Savannah Guthrie's Instagram. It came with the message, "We miss you with every breath. We will never stop looking for you. We will never be at peace until we find you."

Police say 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie was abducted from her Arizona home more than four months ago. Despite video of the intruder, purported ransom notes and thousands of tips so far, police have not revealed any leads.

The Guthrie family is offering up to $1 million for information. There is the tip line right there. If you know anything. 1-800-CALL-FBI.

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DEAN: Next here on CNN, Fareed Zakaria looks at the power of the presidency.

(BEGIN VIDEOCLIP) FAREED ZAKARIA, CNN HOST, "FAREED ZAKARIA GPS": As Donald Trump pushes the boundaries of presidential authority in a second term, it's important to remember that executive power has actually been expanding for decades well beyond the founder's intentions.

In my latest special, I go back to examine how presidents on both sides of the isle laid the groundwork for today's modern imperial presidency.

WOLF BLITZER, CNN HOST, "THE SITUATION ROOM": The imperial president, the autocratic leader.

JOHN KING, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Some Republicans call him the imperial president that he's using executive powers to go beyond his true authority.

ZAKARIA: The imperial president they were talking about, Barack Obama. And in a way, the Republicans had a point.

BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: We can't wait for an increasingly dysfunctional Congress to do its job. Where they won't act, I will.

There we go!

ZAKARIA: President Obama was transforming the country often with the stroke of a pen and without Congress.

OBAMA: Thank you.

ZAKARIA: It was a shocking turn around for the former constitutional law professor who on the campaign trail had blasted George W. Bush's aggressive use of executive power.

OBAMA: We paid a heavy price for having a president whose priority is expanding his own power.

The constitution is treated like a nuisance.

ZAKARIA: I hope you will join me next for this special report on presidential power.

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DEAN: And thank you for joining tonight. I am Jessica Dean. Happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there. Have a great night everyone.