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Saddam Hussein In Court

Aired July 03, 2004 - 14:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Here are the latest developments at this hour. In Moscow, dozens of government agents have swept through the offices of Russia's largest oil company. The action follows a $3 billion demand for back taxes. The company says the bill will force it into bankruptcy and might halt up to 20 percent of Russia's oil production.
Pakistanis sources say an 8-year-old child in Gaza was shot and killed apparently by Israeli forces. The Israeli military says it was unaware of the incident. Israeli sources say troops in the area had fired into the air twice to deter violent demonstrators.

Maria Sharapova shocked the world of tennis today, winning the Wimbledon's women's single title in straight sets. The 17-year-old Russian beat two-time defending champion Serena Williams in today's final.

When Saddam Hussein entered an Iraqi courtroom this week, observers say he at first appeared a bit confused before attempting to turn the tables and challenge the court. We continue now as the judge reads the charges in court and advises Saddam Hussein of his rights.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JUDGE (through translator): The crimes that are charges intended killing by using chemical weapons and the Halabja. No.

Second, intended killing to a great number of Iraqis in 1983.

Three, intended killing to a number of members of the political parties without trials.

Fourth, intended killing to many religious, Iraqi religious people.

Fifth, intended killing to many -- many Iraqis in Enfal and without any evidence against them.

Four, four, you have the right to -- you have the right to defend and answer. These are the guarantees.

Now we come to an important matter. You have heard the court read the crimes that you're charged or were attributed to the accused Saddam Hussein. And according to the -- and you were told what the articles of the law that apply to those cases. And the court has read to you the rights and the guarantees that are -- that any accused is entitled to, which includes the rights of defense. And the representation and also the right not to answer any question asked and that will never be used in evidence against you, against the accused.

And the court also presented to the accused the right to argue the evidence. The accused asked, requested to meet with the defense lawyer -- with defense lawyers, yes, defense lawyers that his private defense lawyers to be present with him in the investigative sessions.

And in light of that, the minutes were concluded and the investigation is deferred, postponed until the accused is enabled to contact his representation, his lawyers. And another appointment for the next session will be decided.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

JUDGE (through translator): The charges that were levied against Saddam Hussein -- go ahead. You should sign so that I can talk to -- OK. Let me sign.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

WHITFIELD: In the end, Saddam Hussein acted more like his former self, gruffly refusing to sign any court papers and rejecting the court's authority.

With more insight into the court proceedings against Saddam Hussein, Adeed Dawisha is an American scholar born in Iraq but a U.S. citizen and he is now professor of political science at Miami University in Ohio. All right, good to see you Professor.

Well Iraqis have not seen this before. Seeing this kind of case, no less, with the former dictator in court being played out on television in Arabic. What were your impressions of his facial expressions when the charges were read?

ADEED DAWISHA, IRAQI SCHOLAR: Well I'm actually surprised at the whole process the way it was presented. I thought that one of the reasons for this was to present a man who probably is broken, who is confused, who is uncertain. Part of this is of course, political theater in order to convince the Iraqis that one of the most horrible and most miserable chapters in their political history is over, and do you that by presenting a man who people will see and realize that he's not making a comeback. Unfortunately the way --

WHITFIELD: But did he appear broken to you?

DAWISHA: No, that's the whole point. Unfortunately this did not happen. The way the whole thing was set up with the camera behind the judge focusing on Saddam Hussein who actually looked as though he was sitting a bit higher than the judge and being allowed to question, to pontificate, he reminded me very much of the pictures we used to see him when visitors used to come to the palaces and Saddam would then kind of go on and (INAUDIBLE) about some subject. And I'm afraid that that kind of continued to give the impression that here was a man full of himself, very much the old leader, and I'm not sure this is the kind of picture we wanted to convey to the Iraqis.

WHITFIELD: At least symbolically, that really did empower him and that finger wagging that you saw him questioning, challenging the court openly and very freely, in your view, does that end up sparking more support for Saddam Hussein for those who are witnessing this, particularly in the Arab community?

DAWISHA: No. Well, as far as the Iraqis are concerned, it will not. I mean, there is 80-85 percent of the population of Iraq that no matter what Saddam does he will not spark any support for him. This is a mass murderer that the Iraqis will never forget. With the Iraqis, however, were very afraid of Saddam Hussein. That was the whole essence of that regime, to instill fear and terror in the heart of the Iraqis and that's why I was saying what we wanted to see was a broken man who could not resurrect that kind of rule.

As far as the rest of the Arabs are concerned, you know, I think the bulk of them saw him as a defiant leader particularly against Israel and there was a lot of support for him in the Arab world, regardless what happens in Iraq, the support for Saddam will continue to be the case in the rest of the Arab world.

WHITFIELD: Now how do you think the judge held up? We don't know his name for security reasons, we only that he is barely 40. The video was shot mostly from behind him in which to conceal his identity, but based on the language and you know, the exchange between the two? How do you think he held up?

DAWISHA: I think he did very well. He was very calm, very collected. Did not shout or scream, yet, at some point when particularly in the trials of the others, not of Saddam; he did stop them when he felt that they were rambling on. The problem is, and that's what I've seen in the press, particularly in the Iraqi press, I don't actually give much credence to the Arab press, but certainly in terms of the Iraqi press, there were questions about him allowing Saddam to lecture him and also about his youth. The question was that they could not find a seasoned judge, so they had somebody who is barely 40 to do the proceedings. And that, in a sense, creates the impression that this interim government is still hasn't in a sense found its feet yet.

WHITFIELD: Professor Adeed Dawisha, Miami University of Ohio thanks very much for joining us. Appreciate it.

DAWISHA: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: When we come back, more of the arraignment, the taped arraignment of Saddam Hussein and more analysis about the incongruities of this court proceeding.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WHITFIELD: Our re-airing of Saddam Hussein's court appearance this week turns to the gassing of the Kurds and the invasion of Kuwait.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SADDAM HUSSEIN, FRM. PRESIDENT OF IRAQ (through translator): But you levied charges as in my capacity as the president of the Republic. The talk about Halabja, I used to hear about that on the radio attacking Halabja under the regime of Saddam Hussein. This is only the legal matters and you have the right to not answer until a lawyer is present. This is for the previous review.

If you want to review, repeat it in the presence of the lawyers, and I don't sign, then yes. But if you want me to sign and then the lawyers come, then no. You have to hear me out. Then and the occupation of Kuwait, the charge number 7, unfortunately. It's unfortunately that this is coming out of an Iraqi, but I know. The law is there. Law, law to charge Saddam Hussein because Kuwait has said that Iraqis -- because the Iraqi woman will come to the street for ten dinars, and I defended the honor of the Iraqis.

Those animals don't use foul language and attack. This is a legal session. Yes, I bear responsibilities for everything. Anything outside of obscenity or outside of the norms of a legal session is not allowed. Then forgive me. Allow me, the seventh charge was against Saddam Hussein as a president of the Republic and the commander in chief of the army and the army went to Kuwait. OK.

Then in the former capacity then is it permissible to charge an official title and the person is to be dealt with in violation of the guarantees that are afforded by the constitution? This is the -- this is the law that you're use interesting to use against me now. This is the crux. This is the crux of the matter, Mr. Judge. Charges are levied. Because actions were taken in a system whose president was Saddam Hussein but without guarantees, presidential guarantees. This is from the legal standpoint.

This is an investigation. Answer. You tell us formally -- this is only for the minutes. If you read the minutes, we say that we post phone the investigation. Then please allow me not to sign and until the lawyers are present. That is -- that is fine. But this is your - I speak for myself. Yes.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

WHITFIELD: More tape in a moment, but first let's bring in civil rights attorney and law professor Avery Friedman again he is rejoining us from Cleveland. All right earlier Avery you talk about the inconsistencies in the judicial system already established so far. To kind of overcome these incongruities, is it too late to even consider an international court if and when there is a trial for Saddam Hussein?

AVERY FRIEDMAN, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: I think both legally and politically Fredricka, the likelihood of any international trial is virtually nil. There is a very good reason why this trial is taking place in Baghdad. It is important for the Iraqi people to see and hear what is going on. Actually, the professor had a very good point. Right now, there is such a loose network of procedures that even the judge appeared to be a little intimidated at the beginning. You'll notice at the end when Saddam started getting a little boisterous, the judge took charge.

There are more procedures that are going to be required to tighten this up. And I am absolutely certain that this matter will proceed in Iraq and not in The Hague or elsewhere.

WHITFIELD: Earlier you talked about the universal standards of justice, the right to counsel. Which we already exhausted, but number two, what efforts will be made for Saddam to confront his accusers and number three under the standards of justice, what efforts would be made to secure discovery?

FRIEDMAN: Yes. Well, those are very, very, two very important aspects of obtaining a free and unfettered and open trial. You have the right to confront your accusers. You may remember in 1983, the administration in the United States sent a representative to meet with Saddam, and it was a purportedly constructive meeting. That representative was Donald Rumsfeld. So don't be surprised to see the defense team calling Secretary Rumsfeld as a witness. How they're going to do it I don't think it's really going to happen.

But the confrontation of people who are making the accusations had also discovery. There is nothing in place right now Fredricka that permits the defense team to get the evidence that the government is going to introduce. So between now and December 31, 2005, there's going to have to be something in order to permit discovery in order for the trial to have integrity.

WHITFIELD: All right. Civil rights attorney and law professor, Avery Friedman, thanks again for joining us from Cleveland.

FRIEDMAN: Good to be here.

WHITFIELD: And when we come back, some final thoughts from all of our analysts.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WHITFIELD: Well, audiences around the world didn't see everything. The U.S. military did provide and clear and edit some of that tape of Saddam Hussein's proceedings during his arraignment this week. Let's get some final thoughts from our analysts now on the tape that we did see, Professor Adeed Dawisha, civil rights attorney Avery Friedman and CNN analyst Ken Pollack. Lets talk a little bit more 30 seconds each from all of you on your final thoughts of what we saw. And what we need to look out for now. Ken, begin with you.

KEN POLLACK, SABAN CTR. AT BROOKINGS INST.: For me, I think this was quiet essential Saddam. What we saw is that six months in prison have not changed the him at all. He is still deeply ignorant about the world, he is still living in a constructive world of his own, he doesn't understand how people perceive him, he doesn't understand the realities of his situation and he is an egomaniac. He likes to talk; he talks at nausum (ph). If this is how he is when his trial begins, we need to buy toothpicks to keep our eyelids open because he is going to carry on and on and on.

WHITFIELD: Avery.

FRIEDMAN: We have the best of the best of the United Nations, of the world. The United States will be involved in this. This matter must proceed to a full fair trial for the sake of the world, especially for the sake of the Iraqi people.

WHITFIELD: And Professor Dawisha.

DAWISHA: I think the accusation that Saddam Hussein leveled at the judge when he asked him who are you, who appointed you, who do you represent, I think that it's a very -- it's a good thing we should wait till next year after the elections in January because then a representative government will appoint a court and that court will have the legitimacy of representing the people and then Saddam will not have recourse to ask or to condemn the legitimacy of the court.

WHITFIELD: Professor Adeeb Dawisha, Avery Friedman, and Ken Pollack, thanks to all of you gentleman for joining us.

FRIEDMAN: Nice to be with you.

DAWISHA: Thank you.

POLLACK: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: Still much more ahead on CNN SATURDAY. A the top of the hour, it's "NEXT@CNN." At 4:00, "CNN Live Saturday," and "Dollar Signs," savvy seniors, how to save money in many areas for you seniors. Experts answer your phone calls and your e-mails. And at 5:00 "People in the News." Today a look at the D-Day invasion through the eyes of four soldiers involved in the day that changed the world.

But first Dan Sieberg with a preview of "NEXT@CNN."

DAN SIEBERG, CNN ANCHOR, NEXT@CNN: Ahead on "NEXT@CNN" Saturn as it's never been seen before. Also, construction at the World Trade Center site sets an example for other building projects.

An ad the EPA thought was funny has environmentalists fuming.

And a womb with a view. Kids do the darnedest things even before they're born. Those stories and a lot more coming up after a break. Don't go away.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

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Aired July 3, 2004 - 14:30   ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Here are the latest developments at this hour. In Moscow, dozens of government agents have swept through the offices of Russia's largest oil company. The action follows a $3 billion demand for back taxes. The company says the bill will force it into bankruptcy and might halt up to 20 percent of Russia's oil production.
Pakistanis sources say an 8-year-old child in Gaza was shot and killed apparently by Israeli forces. The Israeli military says it was unaware of the incident. Israeli sources say troops in the area had fired into the air twice to deter violent demonstrators.

Maria Sharapova shocked the world of tennis today, winning the Wimbledon's women's single title in straight sets. The 17-year-old Russian beat two-time defending champion Serena Williams in today's final.

When Saddam Hussein entered an Iraqi courtroom this week, observers say he at first appeared a bit confused before attempting to turn the tables and challenge the court. We continue now as the judge reads the charges in court and advises Saddam Hussein of his rights.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

JUDGE (through translator): The crimes that are charges intended killing by using chemical weapons and the Halabja. No.

Second, intended killing to a great number of Iraqis in 1983.

Three, intended killing to a number of members of the political parties without trials.

Fourth, intended killing to many religious, Iraqi religious people.

Fifth, intended killing to many -- many Iraqis in Enfal and without any evidence against them.

Four, four, you have the right to -- you have the right to defend and answer. These are the guarantees.

Now we come to an important matter. You have heard the court read the crimes that you're charged or were attributed to the accused Saddam Hussein. And according to the -- and you were told what the articles of the law that apply to those cases. And the court has read to you the rights and the guarantees that are -- that any accused is entitled to, which includes the rights of defense. And the representation and also the right not to answer any question asked and that will never be used in evidence against you, against the accused.

And the court also presented to the accused the right to argue the evidence. The accused asked, requested to meet with the defense lawyer -- with defense lawyers, yes, defense lawyers that his private defense lawyers to be present with him in the investigative sessions.

And in light of that, the minutes were concluded and the investigation is deferred, postponed until the accused is enabled to contact his representation, his lawyers. And another appointment for the next session will be decided.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.

JUDGE (through translator): The charges that were levied against Saddam Hussein -- go ahead. You should sign so that I can talk to -- OK. Let me sign.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

WHITFIELD: In the end, Saddam Hussein acted more like his former self, gruffly refusing to sign any court papers and rejecting the court's authority.

With more insight into the court proceedings against Saddam Hussein, Adeed Dawisha is an American scholar born in Iraq but a U.S. citizen and he is now professor of political science at Miami University in Ohio. All right, good to see you Professor.

Well Iraqis have not seen this before. Seeing this kind of case, no less, with the former dictator in court being played out on television in Arabic. What were your impressions of his facial expressions when the charges were read?

ADEED DAWISHA, IRAQI SCHOLAR: Well I'm actually surprised at the whole process the way it was presented. I thought that one of the reasons for this was to present a man who probably is broken, who is confused, who is uncertain. Part of this is of course, political theater in order to convince the Iraqis that one of the most horrible and most miserable chapters in their political history is over, and do you that by presenting a man who people will see and realize that he's not making a comeback. Unfortunately the way --

WHITFIELD: But did he appear broken to you?

DAWISHA: No, that's the whole point. Unfortunately this did not happen. The way the whole thing was set up with the camera behind the judge focusing on Saddam Hussein who actually looked as though he was sitting a bit higher than the judge and being allowed to question, to pontificate, he reminded me very much of the pictures we used to see him when visitors used to come to the palaces and Saddam would then kind of go on and (INAUDIBLE) about some subject. And I'm afraid that that kind of continued to give the impression that here was a man full of himself, very much the old leader, and I'm not sure this is the kind of picture we wanted to convey to the Iraqis.

WHITFIELD: At least symbolically, that really did empower him and that finger wagging that you saw him questioning, challenging the court openly and very freely, in your view, does that end up sparking more support for Saddam Hussein for those who are witnessing this, particularly in the Arab community?

DAWISHA: No. Well, as far as the Iraqis are concerned, it will not. I mean, there is 80-85 percent of the population of Iraq that no matter what Saddam does he will not spark any support for him. This is a mass murderer that the Iraqis will never forget. With the Iraqis, however, were very afraid of Saddam Hussein. That was the whole essence of that regime, to instill fear and terror in the heart of the Iraqis and that's why I was saying what we wanted to see was a broken man who could not resurrect that kind of rule.

As far as the rest of the Arabs are concerned, you know, I think the bulk of them saw him as a defiant leader particularly against Israel and there was a lot of support for him in the Arab world, regardless what happens in Iraq, the support for Saddam will continue to be the case in the rest of the Arab world.

WHITFIELD: Now how do you think the judge held up? We don't know his name for security reasons, we only that he is barely 40. The video was shot mostly from behind him in which to conceal his identity, but based on the language and you know, the exchange between the two? How do you think he held up?

DAWISHA: I think he did very well. He was very calm, very collected. Did not shout or scream, yet, at some point when particularly in the trials of the others, not of Saddam; he did stop them when he felt that they were rambling on. The problem is, and that's what I've seen in the press, particularly in the Iraqi press, I don't actually give much credence to the Arab press, but certainly in terms of the Iraqi press, there were questions about him allowing Saddam to lecture him and also about his youth. The question was that they could not find a seasoned judge, so they had somebody who is barely 40 to do the proceedings. And that, in a sense, creates the impression that this interim government is still hasn't in a sense found its feet yet.

WHITFIELD: Professor Adeed Dawisha, Miami University of Ohio thanks very much for joining us. Appreciate it.

DAWISHA: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: When we come back, more of the arraignment, the taped arraignment of Saddam Hussein and more analysis about the incongruities of this court proceeding.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WHITFIELD: Our re-airing of Saddam Hussein's court appearance this week turns to the gassing of the Kurds and the invasion of Kuwait.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SADDAM HUSSEIN, FRM. PRESIDENT OF IRAQ (through translator): But you levied charges as in my capacity as the president of the Republic. The talk about Halabja, I used to hear about that on the radio attacking Halabja under the regime of Saddam Hussein. This is only the legal matters and you have the right to not answer until a lawyer is present. This is for the previous review.

If you want to review, repeat it in the presence of the lawyers, and I don't sign, then yes. But if you want me to sign and then the lawyers come, then no. You have to hear me out. Then and the occupation of Kuwait, the charge number 7, unfortunately. It's unfortunately that this is coming out of an Iraqi, but I know. The law is there. Law, law to charge Saddam Hussein because Kuwait has said that Iraqis -- because the Iraqi woman will come to the street for ten dinars, and I defended the honor of the Iraqis.

Those animals don't use foul language and attack. This is a legal session. Yes, I bear responsibilities for everything. Anything outside of obscenity or outside of the norms of a legal session is not allowed. Then forgive me. Allow me, the seventh charge was against Saddam Hussein as a president of the Republic and the commander in chief of the army and the army went to Kuwait. OK.

Then in the former capacity then is it permissible to charge an official title and the person is to be dealt with in violation of the guarantees that are afforded by the constitution? This is the -- this is the law that you're use interesting to use against me now. This is the crux. This is the crux of the matter, Mr. Judge. Charges are levied. Because actions were taken in a system whose president was Saddam Hussein but without guarantees, presidential guarantees. This is from the legal standpoint.

This is an investigation. Answer. You tell us formally -- this is only for the minutes. If you read the minutes, we say that we post phone the investigation. Then please allow me not to sign and until the lawyers are present. That is -- that is fine. But this is your - I speak for myself. Yes.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

WHITFIELD: More tape in a moment, but first let's bring in civil rights attorney and law professor Avery Friedman again he is rejoining us from Cleveland. All right earlier Avery you talk about the inconsistencies in the judicial system already established so far. To kind of overcome these incongruities, is it too late to even consider an international court if and when there is a trial for Saddam Hussein?

AVERY FRIEDMAN, CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY: I think both legally and politically Fredricka, the likelihood of any international trial is virtually nil. There is a very good reason why this trial is taking place in Baghdad. It is important for the Iraqi people to see and hear what is going on. Actually, the professor had a very good point. Right now, there is such a loose network of procedures that even the judge appeared to be a little intimidated at the beginning. You'll notice at the end when Saddam started getting a little boisterous, the judge took charge.

There are more procedures that are going to be required to tighten this up. And I am absolutely certain that this matter will proceed in Iraq and not in The Hague or elsewhere.

WHITFIELD: Earlier you talked about the universal standards of justice, the right to counsel. Which we already exhausted, but number two, what efforts will be made for Saddam to confront his accusers and number three under the standards of justice, what efforts would be made to secure discovery?

FRIEDMAN: Yes. Well, those are very, very, two very important aspects of obtaining a free and unfettered and open trial. You have the right to confront your accusers. You may remember in 1983, the administration in the United States sent a representative to meet with Saddam, and it was a purportedly constructive meeting. That representative was Donald Rumsfeld. So don't be surprised to see the defense team calling Secretary Rumsfeld as a witness. How they're going to do it I don't think it's really going to happen.

But the confrontation of people who are making the accusations had also discovery. There is nothing in place right now Fredricka that permits the defense team to get the evidence that the government is going to introduce. So between now and December 31, 2005, there's going to have to be something in order to permit discovery in order for the trial to have integrity.

WHITFIELD: All right. Civil rights attorney and law professor, Avery Friedman, thanks again for joining us from Cleveland.

FRIEDMAN: Good to be here.

WHITFIELD: And when we come back, some final thoughts from all of our analysts.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WHITFIELD: Well, audiences around the world didn't see everything. The U.S. military did provide and clear and edit some of that tape of Saddam Hussein's proceedings during his arraignment this week. Let's get some final thoughts from our analysts now on the tape that we did see, Professor Adeed Dawisha, civil rights attorney Avery Friedman and CNN analyst Ken Pollack. Lets talk a little bit more 30 seconds each from all of you on your final thoughts of what we saw. And what we need to look out for now. Ken, begin with you.

KEN POLLACK, SABAN CTR. AT BROOKINGS INST.: For me, I think this was quiet essential Saddam. What we saw is that six months in prison have not changed the him at all. He is still deeply ignorant about the world, he is still living in a constructive world of his own, he doesn't understand how people perceive him, he doesn't understand the realities of his situation and he is an egomaniac. He likes to talk; he talks at nausum (ph). If this is how he is when his trial begins, we need to buy toothpicks to keep our eyelids open because he is going to carry on and on and on.

WHITFIELD: Avery.

FRIEDMAN: We have the best of the best of the United Nations, of the world. The United States will be involved in this. This matter must proceed to a full fair trial for the sake of the world, especially for the sake of the Iraqi people.

WHITFIELD: And Professor Dawisha.

DAWISHA: I think the accusation that Saddam Hussein leveled at the judge when he asked him who are you, who appointed you, who do you represent, I think that it's a very -- it's a good thing we should wait till next year after the elections in January because then a representative government will appoint a court and that court will have the legitimacy of representing the people and then Saddam will not have recourse to ask or to condemn the legitimacy of the court.

WHITFIELD: Professor Adeeb Dawisha, Avery Friedman, and Ken Pollack, thanks to all of you gentleman for joining us.

FRIEDMAN: Nice to be with you.

DAWISHA: Thank you.

POLLACK: Thank you.

WHITFIELD: Still much more ahead on CNN SATURDAY. A the top of the hour, it's "NEXT@CNN." At 4:00, "CNN Live Saturday," and "Dollar Signs," savvy seniors, how to save money in many areas for you seniors. Experts answer your phone calls and your e-mails. And at 5:00 "People in the News." Today a look at the D-Day invasion through the eyes of four soldiers involved in the day that changed the world.

But first Dan Sieberg with a preview of "NEXT@CNN."

DAN SIEBERG, CNN ANCHOR, NEXT@CNN: Ahead on "NEXT@CNN" Saturn as it's never been seen before. Also, construction at the World Trade Center site sets an example for other building projects.

An ad the EPA thought was funny has environmentalists fuming.

And a womb with a view. Kids do the darnedest things even before they're born. Those stories and a lot more coming up after a break. Don't go away.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT www.fdch.com