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Iran Reacts to It's Referral to U.N. Security Council; Teen Accused of Rampage in a Gay Bar is Caught; Feminist Pioneer Betty Freidan Dies
Aired February 04, 2006 - 18:00 ET
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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: About a thousand protestors marched on the National Mall and near the White House today. They had gathered in Washington to protest President Bush and his policies. Organizers blame bad weather for lower than expected turnout.
Betty Friedan, the spark who ignited the woman's rights movement has died. Friedan is best known for her 1963 book, "The Feminine Mystique." So co-founded the National Organization for Women in 1966. Friedan died of congestive heart failure at her home in Washington, DC. Today was her 85th birthday.
Actor Al Lewis has died. His role as Grandpa on TV's "The Munsters" made Lewis a pop culture icon. He died Friday night in New York. Lewis was 83.
Up first this evening, Iran. One of the biggest irritants to the UN's nuclear agency cranked the defiance up to a whole new level today. It was tit for tat. The IAEA voted to report Iran to the Security Council. So Iran's president ordered his nuclear facilities to stop cooperating with the UN. That means no more unannounced UN inspections and clears the way for Iran to begin enriching uranium with no oversight. The Iranian government says the issue they has nothing to do with nuclear safety or security.
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JAVAD VAEDI, DEPUTY, IRANIAN SECURITY COUNCIL: This resolution is politically -- a way to say it is not based on any legal or technical grounds.
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KAYE: Here is what started it all. A UN resolution calling on Iran to, quote, "reestablish full and sustained suspension of all enrichment related activities." It also says Iran should implement transparency measures, meaning access to documents and people, so far denied to UN inspectors.
As you can well imagine, this action by Iran has raised the eyebrows of not only the UN nuclear agency but the nations with much invested in the Iran nuclear debate. The U.S. chief among them. CNN national correspondent Bob Franken is outside President Bush's ranch in Crawford, Texas. And Bob, what is the reaction there?
BOB FRANKEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It is interesting because this referral to the United Nations Security Council is a very, very big deal in the world community and as one government official said, this is an effort to "ratchet up the pressure," that's a quote, on Iran to back off from its plans that are becoming apparent to many of the countries of the world to develop nuclear weapons which, of course, Iran denies. You can see the carefully calibrated statements coming out.
Just a short time ago the White House released a statement by the president saying, "This important step sends a clear message to the regime in Iran that the world will not permit the Iranian regime to gain nuclear weapons" and then he continued a little bit later. "The regime's continued defiance only further isolates Iran from the rest of the world and undermines the Iranian people's aspirations for a better life."
That was kind of echoed by what the secretary of state said as another part of this tightening of the vice. She said, "We hope the Iranian regime will heed this clear message. The world will not stand by if Iran continues on the path to nuclear weapons capability." And that was tell embellished by another member of the United States government from another branch, the United States Senate, John McCain.
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SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, (R) AZ: What I'm saying is if there's an option out there of military action but that can't be taken off the table but we have a myriad of options to explore before that and one of them we're about to do now and that's go to the United Nations Security Council. It is a very bad option. It's the worst of all options except for allowing Iran to have nuclear weapons which would destabilize the entire Middle East.
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FRANKEN: That very worst option he was speaking about is the military option but there's this effort to try diplomacy. It's notable, Randi, that there's a 30-day delay before it goes to the Security Council before anything occurs but the spokesman for the United States government was bit pessimistic saying, "I can't say that we're filled with hope that Iran will do the right thing," but the increase is going to continue, the escalation will continue. Randi?
KAYE: Would you say this certainly does represent an escalation?
FRANKEN: Clearly this is an escalation. This is remarkable for something like this to be referred to the United Nations. It was remarkable in that it was a 27 to 3 vote including many nations that were reluctant to threaten sanction against Iran. But both sides have quite a bit of clout here and both will try to use it engaging in what used to be called in the diplomatic world brinksmanship.
KAYE: All right. Our Bob Franken reporting. Thanks so much.
Anger in the Muslim world continues to build. Protestors are upset over cartoon images of the Prophet Muhammad published in European newspapers. They expressed their anger in Syria's capital today, setting fire to the building holding the embassies of Denmark, Sweden and Chile. There was also a fire at Norway's embassy.
Demonstrators filled the streets in other Muslim cities.
Drawings of the Prophet Muhammad were first published in a Danish newspapers. They were reprinted in other European papers as an expression of free speech. One of the most controversial cartoons shows Muhammad wearing a turban shaped like a bomb. Muslims consider any images of Muhammad to be blasphemous and they are banned by Islamic law.
The Danish embassy in London was also a target of angry demonstrations today. About 700 people rallied there, shouted that the images were an insult to Muslims. Until this responses from Muslims had been muted when compared to other parts of the world.
Such as Gaza City, in fact, where about two dozen Palestinians stormed Germany's cultural center, breaking doors and burning the German flag. Dozens of other young people tried to storm the European Union office, pledging to give their blood to redeem the prophet.
The search for survivors from an Egyptian ferry accident continues. About 400 people have been rescued of more than 1,400 were on board when it sank on Friday. The ferry owners says it's too early to know why it went down after a fire. But as Paul Hancocks reports, many Egyptians are more concerned about who can still be saved.
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PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hundreds of Egyptians here in Safaga are spending a second tense and anxious evening trying to find out any information they can on their relatives who were on the ferry that sank in the Red Sea.
(voice-over): Now there have been some angry outburst this Saturday as relatives were frustrated and desperate at the lack of information that they were getting from the authorities earlier on this Saturday. There were rocks thrown and bottles thrown at police and then the riot police came in and formed a cordon around the actual port itself so that relatives could not get any further.
But there have been frustrations that they have not been privy to the information they believe that the authorities have had. That has been a little less chaotic as the day has gone on. The authorities have come out with a loud speaker and named lists of the survivors to relatives could listen and see if their loved ones were on that particular list.
There have been survivors, 389, we understand. And many of them going up to Hagada (ph) hospital just about 50, 60 kilometers north from here. Also this morning President Mubarak went to that hospital, so that he could give his condolences and show his support for those that have been injured in this incident also.
He said that there would be compensation for the relatives of those that had died and also those who had been injured. Some additional information coming out this Saturday about the incident itself. We heard from the Transport Ministry that there was a fire on the ferry. It did start, they believe, in one of the vehicles that was on the lower deck of the ferry itself.
Then when the crew was trying to put it out, the captain turned the boat around but it was very bad weather conditions and the boat was caught in high winds and that's when they believed that it did overturn. But they say that it was just an initial report that gave them that indication. They don't know as yet whether or not that fire did lead to the sinking.
(on camera): Paula Hancocks, CNN, Safaga, Egypt.
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WHITFIELD: Let's look at more international headlines right now. Shanon Cook has the latest on a deadly stampede in the Philippines. Good to see you, Shanon.
SHANON COOK, CNN ANCHOR: Hey, Randi, thanks. Here is what we know right now. More than 70 people were killed when a stampede broke out in a crowd waiting to get into a game show at a stadium in Manila. There were about 20,000 people in the crowd. Witnesses say the stampede began after someone shouted a false warning about a bomb and an investigation is now under way.
Let's move to the Middle East now. Leaders of Hamas say the new Palestinian parliament will convene February 16. Top officials from the militant group met today with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. Hamas also says it has no plan to budge on its refusal to recognize Israel. The meeting followed last week's election that gave Hamas a majority in the Palestinian parliament.
Now Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has hit back at comments made by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. This week Rumsfeld compared Chavez to Adolf Hitler and during a ceremony in Cuba Chavez said he and allies will try to quote, "tear that American empire to shreds."
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... orbit around the earth.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yeah. It is moving at a specified acceleration.
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COOK: Now, this may look like a typical spacewalk only that's not actually a cosmonaut. It's a space suit stuffed with clothing. The crew of the International Space Station shoved it toward Earth Friday. The Russian suit is fitted with a radio transmitter and radio operators on earth hoped to pick up a signal over the next few days. But uh-oh, after only a couple orbits and a brief transmission, the suit went silent. Randi, that is one mute suit.
KAYE: A mute suit. Very good. How did this happen? What went wrong there? COOK: Well, a spokesperson for NASA say the batteries in the transmitter probably got too cold and just froze up. Who knew? Maybe the suit actually got cold feet.
KAYE: Very good. Well, maybe they'll try it again. All right. Thank you, Shanon Cook.
COOK: Thank you, Randi.
KAYE: And back in this country more than 25,000 people have gathered in Atlanta to pay tribute to a woman who lived with quiet grace and dignity. Coretta Scott King lying in honor in the rotunda of the state capitol of Georgia. The first woman and first black person ever to do so. President and Mrs. Bush will attend King's funeral on Tuesday in Atlanta. The widow of slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King died on Monday in Mexico. CNN's Drew Griffin has more on today's tribute.
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DREW GRIFFIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It is taking about an hour and a half to stand in this long line wrapped around the Georgia capitol and up the steps into the rotunda where the body of Coretta Scott King is now lying in state and where these people are passing by to pay their respects to a woman who continues to break down racial barriers even in death.
(voice-over): At 20 minutes to 12:00 this morning, Coretta Scott King's body was carried up the steps of this capitol and into the rotunda marking the first time an African American and the first time a woman has ever lied in state in the capitol of the State of Georgia. Her funeral will be held Tuesday but for today it is the thousands of people, some 10,000 by estimates of the capitol police at 3:00 p.m. that are passing by. Citizens of Georgia paying their last respects to a woman many believe is the First Lady of the civil rights movement.
(on camera): In downtown Atlanta, Drew Griffin, CNN.
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KAYE: And this footnote. In lieu of flowers the King family wants well wishers to send donations to the Coretta Scott King Scholarship Fund. Antioch College, 795 Livermore Street. That's in Yellow Springs, Ohio. The ZIP code there is 45387. And be sure to stay with CNN for live coverage of Mrs. King's funeral. That will be held Tuesday in Atlanta.
She was a guiding force in the modern feminist movement. Betty Friedan told women that there was more to life than being wives and mothers. The author of "The Feminine Mystique" died of congestive heart failure at her home today. Betty Friedan was 85 years old. We'll have much more on her life and work coming up later on in this hour.
Also coming up, hit in the face with a hatchet and shot in the back. A survivor speaks out about his vicious attack. Plus this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nobody ever deserved to be treated that way.
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KAYE: Shot by police. One man's angry sister speaks out. The California shooting caught on tape and the questions now being asked and later ...
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: After Katrina hit, like taking multiple puzzles and throwing them up in the air and scattering them all across the United States.
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KAYE: Making a match. An exclusive look inside the New Orleans lab where DNA evidence remains and where hopes are pinned. You're watching CNN LIVE SATURDAY. Stay with us.
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ROBERT PERRY, BAR ATTACK VICTIM: The hatchet came so fast that I don't think I had time to think. But when it hit my head I said this is something really serious is happening here and putting those thoughts together and I heard the gun shot and then that escalated to a bigger thing and then I was on the floor in a pool of blood. At that point I said I guess I'm going to die. It looks like the way it's going to end.
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KAYE: It did not end for Bob Perry. He's alive scarred by a hatchet wound and a bullet but alive. He's victim of what authorities call a hate crime. His attacker is still at large. CNN's Allan Chernoff is in New Bedford, Massachusetts on this bizarre crime and the investigation that's following. Allan?
ALLAN CERNOFF, NEW BEDFORD, MASSACHUSETTS: Randi, it's an astounding survival story from one of the three victims of the brutal attack at a gay bar here in New Bedford, Massachusetts. Robert Perry was attacked by a man he said he never saw in his life. He was attacked by a hatchet. It actually hit his cheek. He now has five-inch gash in his cheek. And then during a scuffle a bullet shot right through his back. It entered just above the spine and exited just below his left shoulder.
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PERRY: I knew that I had gotten hit with a sharp object in my face that hurt a lot. I felt the bullet go into me. I went to the floor. I knew I was in a pool of blood. And I said I guess this is -- we all wonder how it's going to end and this is where it is going to end, right here.
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CHERNOFF: Mr. Perry was released from the hospital late yesterday. He's actually a paramedic. Believe it or not, he plans to go back to work on Monday. He says he's extremely fortunate.
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PERRY: I'm feeling very lucky to be alive. I should be dead or I should be paralyzed.
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CHERNOFF: There's a nationwide manhunt now underway in its third day for Jacob Rabida here. He is the suspect here. He's the suspected assailant. Now, he's 18 years old. Weighs about 200 pounds according to the police. Stands 5'6" tall and was last seen driving a green Pontiac Grand Am. A 1999 model with Massachusetts plates. And the police believe that he may be near a breaking point.
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PAUL WALSH, BRISTOL COUNTY, MASS. D.A.: This was not a very well planned out attack. So the escape plan may not have been well planned out either. We would reach critical mass. At some point this individual has to stop and sleep and eat and fill up a gas tank and get some money. So I think we're getting to the outer reaches of that and the desperation level may be increasing, as well. So I think after three to four days we're expecting to break something one way or the other.
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CHERNOFF: Two other victims remain hospitalized. One in critical condition. A police spokesperson tells us that that person is on life support. Randi?
KAYE: Wow, what a bizarre, bizarre attack. Allan Chernoff live for us tonight. Thank you.
In other news across America 15 people are still hospitalized after a tour bus crash near Atlantic City, New Jersey. The bus went down an embankment and rolled over Friday night. Two of the injured are in intensive care.
Can $10,000 catch an arsonist? State and federal officials investigating fires at five Alabama churches hope so. One or more arsonists allegedly drove along rural roads early Friday setting one fire after another. Three churches south of Birmingham were destroyed. Two others damaged.
And a six-alarm fire in New Orleans has destroyed three homes. The fire started about 9:00 this morning and burned for about two hours. There were no injuries reported.
ABC has released video of the final moments before an attack on news anchor Bob Woodruff and cameraman Doug Vogt. The two men were seriously injured by a roadside bomb in Iraq Sunday.
Woodruff and Vogt were embedded with an Iraqi army patrol when the attack occurred north of Baghdad. Both men returned to the U.S. on Tuesday. They're said to be making excellent progress as they recover at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland.
Coming up next, a cold case thaws out. The frozen airman whose remains were discovered high in the Sierra Nevadas has finally been identified.
And pulled over after a high speed chase and then shot three times by police. But why did it happen? The man's family wants answers. Stay with us.
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LEANE MUSTONEN, FROZEN AIRMEN'S NIECE: OK. Thanks. Captain. OK. Bye-bye. I didn't think that would happen but it is him.
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KAYE: Tears, sadness and the family says closure. The military has identified the body of a World War II airman found frozen in a California glacier last October. DNA tests say it is 22-year-old Leo Mustonen from Minnesota. He was one of four cadets onboard a training flight that plane crashed in the Sierra Nevadas back in 1942.
The shooting of an air force security officer in San Bernardino County, California is causing controversy. The shooting was videotaped and the airman has been released from the hospital but explanations of what happened on the tape differ.
Kareen Wynter has the story.
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MARIELA CARRION, WIFE: Nobody ever deserved to be treated that way. Especially Elio.
KAREEN WYNTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Until now Mariela Carrion hadn't spoken publicly since the night of her husband's shooting. Twenty-one-year-old military police officer, Elio Carrion, was a passenger in this vehicle on Sunday when it was pulled over following a police chase on a traffic offense. A murky home video picks up what happened next.
A sheriff's deputy stands over Carrion with his gun pointed. Carrion tells a deputy he's an air force security officer. The next part of the tape is the focus of a police and FBI investigation. It sounds like the deputy orders Carrion get up. The deputy opens fire, shooting Carrion the chest, shoulder and leg. Carrion survived the shooting and was released from the hospital. Some law enforcement experts who reviewed the tape say while it sounds like the deputy was telling Carrion to get up, he might have been telling him don't get up. Carrion was shot as he was starting to get off the ground.
LUIS CARRILLO, FAMILY ATTORNEY: He was complying with all the requests of the police officer. He was explaining that he was cooperating.
CARRION: We demand justice. That this man should be prosecuted. He shouldn't be out on the streets with a badge.
WYNTER: The San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department isn't commenting on the case but did say the deputy, 45-year-old Ivory John Webb has been before placed on administrative leave. Webb joined the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department in 1996. And has been on patrol duty for the past five years. This case has also taken another turn. The witness who videotaped the shooting, Jose Luis Valdez, has now been arrested on an outstanding warrant from Florida charged with assaulting an elderly woman with a deadly weapon in 2003. U.S. Customs and Immigration discovered the warrant when Valdez was trying to renew his green card.
Kareen Wynter, CNN, Los Angeles.
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KAYE: Mother nature unleashed its fury through Hurricane Katrina and now science is left to answer the unanswered. Up next, an exclusive look inside a New Orleans lab where DNA is all that's left to identify the dead.
Plus, they took Washington by storm this week. Up next, meet two members of the group Women of the Storm, citizens demanding action after Katrina. You're watching CNN LIVE SATURDAY.
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KAYE: Now in the news. Feminist pioneer Betty Friedan died today on her 85th birthday. A cousin said she died of congestive heart failure. We'll have more on her life later this hour.
Tough words from Iran's president. Iranian media says he ordered an end to voluntary cooperation with the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog group. Earlier today the agency voted to report Iran's nuclear activities to the security council for possible sanctions.
Cartoons of the prophet Muhammad sparked violent protests in Damascus, Syria today. Protesters set fire to a building housing the Danish embassy and the Norwegian embassy.
The White House says President and Mrs. Bush will attend Coretta Scott King's funeral Tuesday in Atlanta. You are now looking at live pictures in Atlanta, Georgia. Tens of thousands of people are paying respects to the matriarch of the civil rights movement lying in honor in the Georgia state Capitol.
Welcome back. In Louisiana the hopes and fears of people still searching for missing loved ones all come down to a speck of human tissue on a glass slide. The science of DNA testing barely existed not so long ago. Here is a look inside the New Orleans labs on which so many people are counting.
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SEAN CALLEBS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is how they ring in good news at Louisiana's Find Family Call Center. It means another person has been located alive and well.
Still, nearly 2,300 are listed as missing.
AMANDA SOZER, DNA IDENTIFICATION COORDINATOR: And after Katrina hit, it was like taking multiple puzzles and throwing them up in the air and scattering them all across the United States. And we're trying to pull those puzzles together and fit the missing pieces in.
CALLEBS: The state ward, near the town of San Gabriel, holds the remains of 113 unidentified people. Trying to find matches from among the legions of missing involves complex DNA testing. Amanda Sozer heads up the state's DNA matching effort, which when done properly, works.
SOZER: We're looking for, in cases where we have a cold hit, where we have a body in the morgue and we don't know who that person is based on other methods, a probability of 99.9 percent.
CALLEBS: You're looking at Reliagy (ph), a New Orleans based company that helps put together a DNA profile.
(On camera): So many people have seen this on TV, but where actually is a DNA sample?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The DNA sample is actually in the place that you see right here.
CALLEBS (voice-over): The robot is watering down the DNA samples. The reason, if the sample is too strong, it can't be read accurately. The same is true, however, if the sample is overly diluted. These spikes, or peaks and valleys, represent someone's unique DNA profile.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a DNA fingerprint, essentially.
CALLEBS: It is also a global operation. Scientists in the former Yugoslavia, who spent years going through mass graves following war and genocide, are pouring over bone fragments from Katrina victims. Researchers there are considered experts in bone DNA analysis.
SOZER: We look for similarities between the profiles or the codes in the bone to the profiles from the families.
CALLEBS: This is what families of missing loved ones go through. A simple cheek swab, creating a DNA fingerprint.
SOZER: Early on, some people may have had the misconception that only one person in a family needed to be tested, so one person gave their DNA. But really, we need more people.
CALLEBS: The more close family members tested, the better chance the state has at putting together an accurate bar code to pinpoint a loved one. DNA sampling also works closely with other methods of identifying bodies, such as dental records.
DOUGLAS CROSS, DENTIST: OK, this is a dental office in the lower Ninth Ward.
CALLEBS (ON CAMERA): Douglas Cross is a dentist, whose business was destroyed. He offered to help in identifying bodies and has been wading through the muck left behind in flooded dental offices.
CROSS: We got a number of records that day and some of them led to an ID.
CALLEBS (voice-over): At one point, the Find Family Call Center had 11,000 missing persons. It's emotional work, but employees here say there is a heartfelt benefit to paring down a painful list.
CALLEBS (on camera): And we are told there are five labs -- four in the United States, one in the former Yugoslavia -- doing this complex DNA testing to put together a genetic fingerprint. Well, the state medical examiner here, Dr. Louis Cataldi says they probably have about six more months' worth of work, trying to put names to those 113 unidentified remains. But as this work goes on, the numbers simply aren't adding up because he points out there are hundreds of people -- hundreds -- calling every week, trying to find out what happened to their loved one. So, while we may never know exactly how many people died in Katrina, we do sadly know that there are scores of people who aren't going to know what happened to their loved ones
Sean Callebs, CNN, New Orleans.
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And here's a number for you to call. 1-866-326-9393. If you have questions or information about missing hurricane victims. And now --
This just into CNN. Arkansas state police say Jacob Robida is in custody. He was wanted in connection with an attack at a gay bar in New Bedford, Massachusetts. He has been apprehended in the state of Arkansas after a shootout with police.
This attack occurred two nights ago. That would be Thursday night. Reportedly he attacked patrons at a gay bar not only with a gun but with a hatchet. He has been wanted on three counts of attempted murder. We're just learning today that one of the victims is still in critical condition.
He had been seen driving a green Pontiac Grand Am. But we're told now that after a shootout with police in the state of Arkansas, 18-year-old Jacob Robida, according to the Associated Press, has been picked up and is in custody in connection with this attack at the gay bar in New Bedford, Massachusetts.
Every week we bring you the more personal stories from the front lines. Today a group of Louisiana women who are trying to reclaim their communities after the devastation of Hurricanes Katrina And Rita. Becky Currence and Vaughn Fauria are members of a group called Women of the Storm. They are joining us live from New Orleans. Good to have both of you ladies with us.
Tell me first what is the goal of Women of the Storm?
BECKY CURRENCE, WOMEN OF THE STORM: Well, we have a two pronged goal. We're trying to keep the goals simple so that we can drive the message home each time we speak about it. The first thing we're asking the federal government to do is to give to Louisiana a fair share of the revenues from the offshore oil and gas business. There are at least four other states in the union who get 50 percent of their revenues from federally owned lands and we're asking for a share of that in order that we maintain the levees once repaired by the federal government and restore the coastal wet lands which is a devastating problem here.
The other part of our goal is to ask for a solution for the housing here. There's something on the table in Washington that the administration doesn't seem to be very happy about, but we've got to solve the housing problem.
KAYE: I wanted to ask you about your trip to Washington. What was the mission there in terms of what do you think could you have accomplished by marching in Washington?
VAUGHN FAURIA, WOMEN OF THE STORM: Well, those were the specific issues that we wanted to address. Our overarching goal was to ask Congress to come to Louisiana so that they could view for themselves the devastation that we have incurred here and that it would make it very easy for them to go back and look carefully at the bills and say yes to both. The coastal restoration is probably, next to building the levees, the most critical piece of what we need. We can then go forth and do that ourselves in the future if we're allowed to use our own gas and oil revenues.
KAYE: I know you're inviting federal officials to come to New Orleans and take a look for themselves at the devastation and destruction there. Have you heard from any of the federal officials that you are targeting making any plans to come?
CURRENCE: We have some commitments, verbal commitments, but not a designated time. We have made it about as easy as it could be made. Our leadership has arranged for planes to bring Congressmen here. We've arranged for lodging through the hotel association and for their meals.
We're only asking 36 hours of their time but it was stunning when we realized that 80 percent of the house and 70 percent of the Senate have not been to Louisiana to view the city, the area or the wet lands.
KAYE: All right. I know much more needs to be done. I've been down there shooting stories on my own. I can see there's plenty of work to be done there. Ladies, you are doing good work yourselves. Vaughn Fauria and Becky Currence, Women of the Storm, good luck with your endeavors on this.
CURRENCE: May we thank CNN for keeping our story in front of the nation.
KAYE: You can always thank CNN.
FAURIA: And thank you because there are 136 of us that you haven't spoken to so feel free.
KAYE: More now on what we just reported moments ago. Arkansas state police say Jacob Robida is in custody. He was wanted in connection with an attack at a gay bar in New Bedford, Massachusetts. He has been apprehended after a shootout with police. Mike Chernoff joins us now by phone. Mike?
ALLAN CHERNOFF, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. It's Allan Chernoff in New Bedford, Massachusetts, where this crime occurred. The police here are planning to hold a press conference within the hour. At the moment they are not yet confirming. They don't have the full information for us just yet.
But as we know, the suspect, Jacob Robida has been on the run for three days now. It's been a three-day nationwide manhunt and the police have been coordinating nationwide. They have had bulletins issued every few hours to police departments up and down the East Coast, extending all of the way to Canada and as you reported only a few minutes ago, they did believe that Robida was near a breaking point after being on the run for three days. Feeling that he at some point would need to get more gas, get food, get sleep and the pressure would be building on him. So we will have more details within the hour.
KAYE: All right. Thank you so much for following this story for us. One other note, the Associated Press is also reporting that as a result of that shootout, there was a death of a police officer. An Arkansas police officer died in that shootout. The AP is also reporting that a woman accompanying a wounded teen to a hospital, as well. Robida himself also in the hospital. We'll continue to follow this story as the events unfold tonight. In the meantime we'll take a break right here.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) KAYE: It is one of the first things we're taught as kids, don't be selfish. According to our next guests, that's not always the best advice. Richard and Rachel Heller of the authors of "Healthy Selfishness." They are here to tell us why it is sometimes better for your health to think of yourself first. Welcome to both of you.
If you would, define healthy selfishness for us.
RICHARD HELLER, CO-AUTHOR, "HEALTHY SELFISHNESS": Healthy selfishness is something that can be defined as a balance between putting your needs on hold and taking care of the needs of other people and then taking care of your needs while other people's needs are put on hold. It is a balance. you must move it back and forth depending on your lifestyle and who you are dealing with. The important thing is it is a balance in selfishness.
KAYE: All right. Rachel, if you would, tell us it is not being selfish can make you physically ill?
RACHEL HELLER, CO-AUTHOR, "HEALTHY SELFISHNESS": It can certainly predispose you for physical illness, everything from immune deficiency problems, the stress can cause cardiovascular problems. Even so, even without all the physical things that come from being ill related to stress of not taking care of your sleep, your eating and your joy in life the real cost of this is that after all of the work we do taking care of everyone else, we don't feel as if what we're doing has any meaning if we don't get our own needs met, as well.
KAYE: Let's take our viewers through. Richard, I can use your help here, taking us through the strategies for find a balance in life. Let's begin with using the golden rule. Turn inside out. Can you explain that?
RICHARD HELLER: The golden rule says do onto others as would you have them do onto you. Well, do onto yourselves and would you do onto others. If you are not going to be selfish with others, you shouldn't be selfish with yourself either.
RACHEL HELLER: In other words if you really are trying -- if you would invite someone for dinner and would you go through the trouble of buying food and preparing it or if you would take your children places when you are exhausted or you would financially, and this is a big one, you would find money for your adult child whether they need to go on a trip or continue their education, then take those same time, energy and money and give it to yourself sometimes.
You really need to do that to replenish yourself and to keep yourself going and full of energy otherwise you are running on empty all of the time.
KAYE: All right. I do want to ask you before we go just briefly, are we at any risk of being too selfish?
RACHEL HELLER: We love that question. The only people that ask that question are people who are in need of healthy selfishness. Truly selfish people never worry about being selfish because they really don't care. I want to add one thing.
KAYE: Briefly here we'll run out of time with you.
RACHEL HELLER: I used to weigh 300 pounds. I was living in poverty in an abusive relationship. I have been normal weight for over 20 years. I am comfortable financially and in the best relationship possible because I have learned to claim my fair share of healthy selfishness without feeling guilty.
RICHARD HELLER: Everyone is entitled to healthy selfishness.
KAYE: All right. Thank you both for your time. Once again, the book, "Healthy Selfishness."
She laid the groundwork for the feminist movement, and today she died. A look back at the legendary life of Betty Freidan. But first here's what's ahead on CNN's "ON THE STORY."
ALI VELSHI, CNN ANCHOR: We're ON THE STORY from the campus of the George Washington university. Elaine Quijano and Andrea Henry (ph) with reaction to the president's State of the Union address. Nic Robertson talks about risks that journalists take when reporting from war zones. Barbara Starr is back from the Horn of Africa where the U.S. military is using a different approach to fight the war on terror. All of that is coming up. All ON THE STORY
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KAYE: As we've been reporting here on CNN, we have been telling you that Jacob Robida has now arrested and picked up in the state of Arkansas in connection with a Thursday night attack at a gay bar in Massachusetts. We want to go now to Allan Chernoff in New Bedford Massachusetts for the latest.
CHERNOFF: Randi, the police here in New Bedford are not yet officially confirming the arrest of Robida. The Associated Press is reporting this story and this story coming out of Arkansas.
According to the Associated Press Robida was arrested. The 18- year-old charged with the brutal attacks at a gay bar here three nights ago. According to the report from the Associated Press, there was shootout during this attempt to arrest Mr. Robida. He is injured according to the Associated Press and the shootout resulted in a police officer being killed.
According to the Associated Press and the Associated Press reporting that a woman accompanying Mr. Robida also was killed during this shootout and the AP in addition reporting that Mr. Robida has now been hospitalized. That all according to the Associated Press.
The police here are saying that they do plan to hold a press conference later this evening. The official police spokesperson would not confirm the information to me. I spoke with him only a few moments ago. One of the police officers here right outside of police headquarters did say to me that he had heard that Robida had been arrested but, again, we don't have official confirmation here at police headquarters in New Bedford.
KAYE: All right. Once again we want to remind you that at some point tonight we'll hear from the police in New Bedford, Massachusetts, about the events that have unfolded here. We'll have the latest for you throughout the night.
KAYE: Al Lewis, political candidate, radio show host, restaurant owner than died Friday night. He was best known for two years he spent on television in the 1960s playing Grandpa Munster. Lewis was as colorful as the character. He even got into politics running as the Green Party's choice for governor of New York, getting more than 50,000 votes. Al Lewis was 83.
One of the leading figures in the modern feminist movement has also died. Betty Friedan, author of "The Feminine Mystique," died of congestive heart failure today. Her groundbreaking book made the point that women could strive for achievements outside of home and family.
CNN's Mary McGann looks at her life.
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MARY ANN MCGANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In 1963 when Betty Friedan wrote her revolutionary book "The Feminine Mystique" describing entrapped housewives, it became a catalyst for what was to become the feminine movement. And she, its spokesperson.
BETTY FRIEDAN, FEMINIST: My gut, I knew it was important. But that the book itself would help bring about the consciousness that led to the woman's movement. No. I couldn't possibly have predicted that.
MCGANN: Although she didn't predict it. Her book was a rallying cry. A call to action.
To help fight for that equality, Friedan founded the National Organization for Women in 1966. NOW lobbied for and won laws that guaranteed equal pay for equal work.
MARLENE SANDERS, TV JOURNALIST: She opened the doors for women to do whatever we could do as individuals.
LYNN SHERR, TV JOURNALIST: Betty is the reason that most of us have our jobs right now.
MCGANN: In 1993, Friedan wrote "The Fountain of Age." This was her attempt to liberate the elderly from nursing homes the way she had liberated women from the kitchen.
FRIEDAN: We are the first ones to have a 25-year, 30 years of possibly healthy vigorous vital life after we're 50. And that new third of life, that's the unmapped territory.
MCGANN: She lived her life as she advised others to, productively. Born Betty Naomi Goldstein on February 4th, 1921 in Peoria, Illinois, she went on to marry and have three children. In 1969 after 22 years of marriage, she and husband Carl divorced. She became an intellectual vagabond traveling the world to fight for women's issues.
FRIEDAN: This is the only place in the world where women's concern, women's equality. Women's access to technology are being debated.
Friedan divided her time between her Manhattan apartment, a Long Island house and a California condo. She taught and created a think- tank focusing on a variety of social issues. She also wrote books and magazine articles and even had time to be very social. Her influence was felt by women in all walks of life.
SHARON STONE, ACTRESS: I thank Ms. Friedan for the shocking freedom with which I have been able to move through my life with female courage, and female strength, and female outspokenness.
Friedan said witnessing her mother's frustration led to her life's work.
FRIEDAN: I feel -- ongoing commitment to women's movement which I helped start and which I think has been enormously liberating for women.
MCGANN: Her goal she said was to make women feel better about being women. Mary Ann McGann, CNN, New York.
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KAYE: Betty Freidan, dead today on her 85th birthday.
There's much more ahead on CNN tonight. Up next, at 7:00 eastern "ON THE STORY." And then at 8:00 "CNN PRESENTS: Battle on the Border, Inside the World of Drugs, Illegal Immigrants and Sex Trafficking."
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