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President Biden and Former President Obama Rally In Philadelphia; Former Pres. Clinton Gives Last Minute Boost To NY Gov. Hochul; Races In Georgia, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Arizona Could Determine Control Of Senate; No Winner In Record-Breaking $1.6 Billion Powerball Jackpot; Third-Party Candidate Could Force GA Sen. Race Into Runoff. Aired 7-8a ET
Aired November 06, 2022 - 07:00 ET
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BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: Buenos dias and welcome to CNN this morning, Sunday November 6. I'm Boris Sanchez.
AMARA WALKER, CNN ANCHOR: Hello Boris, and I'm Amara Walker. A political heavyweights including three former presidents hit the campaign trail this weekend hoping to drive turnout with just two days left before the midterms. You're going to hear their closing messages.
SANCHEZ: And nobody won the Powerball jackpot. It just keeps growing. How much cash is on the line now and when you can get your next shot, it's a major money.
WALKER: And as the prices continue to surge, a new report says this Thanksgiving is going to costs a lot more than years past. We're joined by an expert with tips on how you can make your dollar stretch at the grocery store.
SANCHEZ: Plus, champions once again. The Houston Astros claiming their second World Series title in six years. Coy Wire is standing by with the highlights.
WALKER: Good morning, everyone. It is Sunday, November 6, a new week. It's great to be with you and great to be with you, Boris. And I think we're all somewhat optimistic knowing that we can still win the Powerball.
SANCHEZ: Almost $2 billion --
WALKER: Yes.
SANCHEZ: -- up for grabs. We'll give you the details on that. But first, we're just two days away until the high stakes midterm elections. The candidates and their heavy hitting friends are out in full force this final weekend of campaigning, hoping to drive out turnout. WALKER: President Joe Biden rallied with former President Barack Obama for the Democratic candidates in Pennsylvania, a key swing state in Tuesday's elections.
SANCHEZ: Meantime, former President Trump held a rally for Dr. Mehmet Oz, his handpicked candidate for the U.S. Senate from Pennsylvania. But as often happens at these rallies, the former president focused a lot on himself and his perceived enemies. Oz and John Fetterman are locked in another key battle that could determine who takes control of the U.S. Senate.
WALKER: CNN's Arlette Saenz joining us now live from Delaware. And Arlette, of course, with all the star power concentrated there, we know that this is a key state that the Republicans, the Democrats both will be watching.
ARLETTE SAENZ, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Amara and Boris, good morning. But when you talk to Democratic and Republican officials, it's clear that they each believe control of the Senate could hinge down to this race in Pennsylvania. And that is why you saw that political reunion last night of two of the Democratic Party's biggest surrogates, former President Barack Obama and the current President Joe Biden.
The men were deployed to the Philadelphia area which is going to be an area key for Democrats as they're trying to drive up turnout heading into Tuesday's election. Now for President Obama, he has strategically deployed himself to battleground states trying to be helpful to candidates running for the Senate there, while President Biden has really stayed away from most of the competitive Senate races, with Pennsylvania being the -- one of the only exceptions, a state that he's has gone to now 20 times over the course of the past two years.
But both men as they've tried to rally Democratic voters in Philadelphia talked about the stakes of this election. Take a listen.
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BARACK OBAMA, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Fundamental rights are on the ballot. Truth and facts and logic and reason and basic decency on the ballot. Democracy itself is on the ballot. The stakes are high. Yes. The stakes are high.
JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We are -- we're going to enter those final days of this midterm election remembering that the power of America is in your hands. It really is.
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SAENZ: Now, while the President's focus last night was on that crucial Pennsylvania senator race, today, he turns his attention to trying to save a Democratic governor who could be in trouble and that is New York Governor Kath Hochul. The President will be campaigning alongside her a bit later today in Westchester County, New York, as there has been some hand wringing amongst Democratic officials about the possibility of Hochul losing in her race, as she's facing a much tighter than expected challenge from her Republican challenger, GOP Rep. Lee Zeldin.
WALKER: Arlette Saenz, appreciate you. Thank you for your reporting.
Now former President Donald Trump campaigned outside Pittsburgh for Dr. Mehmet Oz. He called Oz a good man who could help reverse a country in decline.
SANCHEZ: Yes, but much of his speech was focused on his own achievements, his own grievances and multiple debunked conspiracy theories about voter fraud in the 2020 election. Now it's down to the two candidates in that pivotal race. CNN's Jessica Dean walks us through the details.
JESSICA DEAN, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Boris and Amara, after having three presidents in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania on Saturday, Democrat John Fetterman and Republican Mehmet Oz look ahead to this very final stretch before election day on Tuesday.
And after kind of blanketing the states to their respective party strongholds, they are now both headed back and going to end Sunday in Bucks County. It's one of the so-called collar counties right outside of Philadelphia. It is full of independent voters. Those are the voters that both Fetterman and Oz are hoping to capture. Boris and Amara?
SANCHEZ: Jessica Dean from Pennsylvania, thank you so much.
As we heard from Arlette Saenz just a moment ago, New York's Democratic Governor Kathy Hochul is in a much tougher than anticipated race against Republican Congressman Lee Zeldin.
WALKER: Yes, but she is getting some high-profile help crossing that finish line. CNN's Gloria Pazmino with more.
GLORIA PAZMINO, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I'm Gloria Pazmino. In Brooklyn, New York, where incumbent Governor Kathy Hochul just got a last-minute campaign boost from former President Bill Clinton who hit the trail here in Brooklyn, encouraging voters to get out and hit the polls. He tried to draw a contrast between the Republican Party and the Democrats saying that everything from reproductive rights to gun safety legislation is on the ballot.
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BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This is serious. This is serious. I know the average election rallies, what to do, what to do, what to do. Your life is on the line. The young people in this audience, their life is on the line.
GOV. KATHY HOCHUL (D), NEW YORK: We are facing a contrast. There's never been a greater contrast. Between in -- I'm scared, too. You're scared, I'm scared. We all should be scared. That's how we're going to win. Because we overcome fear with our vote. Don't you worry, we're going to overcome fear with our vote.
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PAZMINO: Now Governor Hochul will be getting some more campaign help on the trail. Today, she will be joined by President Joe Biden at a campaign rally in Westchester.
WALKER: Gloria, thank you for that.
Let's bring in Larry Sabato now, he is the Director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia and founder of Sabato's Crystal Ball, which is an online political newsletter. He's also the author of, "Return to Normalcy?: The 2020 Election That Almost Broke America."
All right, Larry, good to see you again, by the way. It's been -- it's just what, two days now until election day, we're finally here. What does your crystal ball tell you about the Senate races? And, you know, how much of an uphill battle this remains for the Democrats?
LARRY SABATO, DIRECTOR, CENTER FOR POLITICS, UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA: Sure. Well, first, the House. I think there's a consensus, at least privately that the House will go Republican and quite possibly by a substantial number of seats. The Senate is a very different animal. There is still a pathway for Democrats to get to 50-50. And it's a credible pathway.
Problem for Democrats is there are several credible pathways for Republicans to get to 51 or even 52 seats. You'd have to give a slight edge to the Republicans even for the Senate, but Democrats could pull the Senate off, that could be their saving grace in the election.
WALKER: And, Larry, I know you've talked quite a bit about October surprises and how they can significantly change outcomes of a race such as it did in 1962 with the Cuban Missile Crisis, which ended up helping the Democrats. Did we see any surprises last month?
SABATO: I think there were smaller surprises. I don't think anything that recalculated the election, odds or math. You don't think about this, Amara. This is very interesting. If the Dobbs decision, overturning Roe v. Wade had not occurred in June but occurred in October, where would we be right now?
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I suspect that Democrats would be doing a lot better in the House even if they didn't carry it. And in the Senate, they probably would get that 50-50 split, maybe even pick up a seat. But, you know, the ifs didn't happen there, the October surprise didn't happen. It happened in June. And that is, it turns out probably was too early.
WALKER: Right. And, yes, not obviously working the paper for the Democrats, as you say. You know, you and I have talked over the years, and I know that you've been quite wary of polling for a variety of reasons. And, of course, as you know, a lot of political analysts have been watching these races in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, saying that these other races that, you know, could determine the Senate, is there any reason for you to believe that some of these polls that we've seen regarding these close races could be off in any way? Are they nearly as close as portrayed?
SABATO: I think they're close. But you're correct to bring this up because to be honest about it, a lot of polls were wrong in 2016. And a lot of polls were wrong in 2018, a lot of polls were wrong in 2020. And somehow, I don't think all the pollsters have corrected the problems they had. That's just my guess, and we'll see in 2022. If there is an error --
WALKER: Corrected them in what way?
SABATO: Corrected them in trying to pick up more Trump supporters who will not participate in polling for one reason or another. And that matters because they vote but they don't talk to pollsters. And therefore, there may be a point or two or three for the Republicans being missed, even by very good, nonpartisan pollsters.
Maybe it isn't as impressive in effect this year as it's been in the three prior elections. We'll find out on Tuesday, but it's something to keep in mind. It's a possibility.
WALKER: Yes, I would imagine that's also tough for pollsters to, you know, get some of these Trump supporters to talk as well since they have been reticent, as we saw for 2016. So while there's been a lot of focus on, you know, these states that I just mentioned, do you think Democrats should also be focusing more on New Hampshire after the money they spent on getting Republican Senate candidate Don Bolduc nominated, thinking he would be a weaker candidate, but do you think all that energy is now going to backfire could so?
SABATO: It could backfire. That's one of the great problems in politics. A lot of times your strategy that's so sound in the summer turns out to be very foolish come fall. Look, New Hampshire is a highly competitive state. It frequently has squeakers. 2016 was a squeaker actually for Maggie Hassan as well as in the presidential race.
Maggie Hassan won by a 10th of 1 percent. So yes, that could be a very close race, it could be a surprise, I can't remember an election presidential or midterm. We're on election night, you didn't have one or two or three big surprises that the polls didn't predict, and the pundits didn't predict. So I'll be surprised if we don't have a few this time too.
WALKER: Well, maybe you're predicting this surprise in New Hampshire. So you may have gotten that right with your crystal ball. You know, lastly, regarding, you know, the results of 2022 on Tuesday, what will you be looking at from Tuesday to give us a sense of what 2024 may look like?
SABATO: Well, the margins matter, obviously, in both Houses. President Biden really needs one House to be a fully functioning president. But, you know, it's -- politics is such a crazy game. Bill Clinton lost both Houses in 1994, was easily reelected in 1996. Barack Obama had a disaster in the House in 2010, lost 63, 64 seats, was reelected comfortably in 2012.
Sometimes you get a devil figure by having the other party in control of Congress. That's something Biden or potentially another Democratic nominee could lose -- could use rather. You never know these things until you see them unfold. It's easy to speculate and pontificate two years in advance, but I suspect it will unfold very differently than we think it will.
WALKER: Larry Sabato, always appreciate the conversation. Thank you so much.
SABATO: Thank you, Amara.
WALKER: And don't forget to watch CNN special coverage beginning tonight. CNN's Erin Burnett kicks off things at 6:00 p.m. followed by Anderson Cooper 360 at 8:00 and then Dana Bash, excuse me, and Abby Phillip at 10:00 with Election Week in America.
SANCHEZ: Bless you, Amara.
So, we've got good news this morning and we've got some bad news. The bad news is that you didn't win the $1.6 billion jackpot last night. The good news is, nobody else did either. So Amara has no choice but to be here with us this morning and the Powerball jackpot will just keep growing.
Here last night's numbers in case you won one of the smaller prizes, 28-45-53-56 and 69. The Powerball was 20.
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The new jackpot is now estimated at $1.9 billion, billion with a B, that drawing is on Monday. And if you win, that would be the largest national lottery payout in history. The question is, Amara, are you going to play again this time?
WALKER: No. Well, listen, first of all, how do you know I wouldn't return to work if I want $2 billion? How do you know?
SANCHEZ: I know you will, Amara. I know that I would be up here. It'd be me and a bunch of crickets by their yourselves, yes.
WALKER: OK, so if you won, you wouldn't come back to work? Putting you on the spot now. No, you wouldn't.
SANCHEZ: You would see me on Instagram on a beach somewhere waving goodbye, saying, welcome to CNN this morning live from the Caribbean.
WALKER: Yes, OK. That's a great idea. I like that. Awesome.
SANCHEZ: So, there's a big political story we haven't gotten to yet and involves the Georgia Senate race, it's one of the tightest in the country. But there's a wildcard candidate on the ballot who could throw a wrench in both Republicans and Democrats hopes to avoid a runoff and he's going to join us live next. WALKER: Plus, as food prices soar, get ready for a more expensive turkey on your table this Thanksgiving ahead. We're going to talk about ways to cut your budget and we're going to give you some helpful tip, hints on how to help you save money.
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WALKER: Candidates in Georgia's pivotal Senate race are making their closing arguments to voters today as control for the chamber could come down to the Peach State once again. Democratic Senator Raphael Warnock and his opponent Republican Hershel Warnock are engaged in a tight race that has gripped both parties and help set midterm early voting records in the state. More than 2.5 million ballots have already been cast, shattering the previous records set in 2018.
SANCHEZ: Let's take you to the Peach State now, and CNN's Eva McKend, who has made it her second home during this ending moments of the campaign. Eva, what's the latest on the race?
EVA MCKEND, CNN NATIONAL POLITICS REPORTER: Well, good morning to you both. It is the final sprint here with both of these candidates Herschel Walker, Senator Warnock making their closing arguments. And central to Herschel Walker's pitch is that he is not a standard politician. He argues that Warnock is, and is too closely aligned with President Biden and more notably a Biden's economic agenda.
Meanwhile, Senator Warnock argues that Herschel Walker is ill prepared to serve in the United States Senate. He jokes with his supporters that you actually have to know stuff to do this job. And Warnock also spends a lot of time talking about health care, and that he is willing to work with Republicans if, ultimately, it is in service to Georgians.
Take a listen to how they both make these election arguments on the campaign trail.
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HERSCHEL WALKER (R), GEORGIA SENATE CANDIDATE: He has failed as a senator, has he not? He's failed. On less than two years, you all see what we had? You all see where we had? Now, he asked for about six more years. Is he kidding me? He can't get six more years. He's joking. I know it's a joke, if you want six more years.
SEN. RAPHAEL WARNOCK (D), GEORGIA SENATE CANDIDATE: If you send me back to the Senate, you'll have somebody who will stand up and work with anybody, if it helps me to do good stuff for the people of Georgia. You know I know how to work with anybody. I work with Ted Cruz.
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MCKEND: Now, more than 2 million people voted in Georgia during the early vote period, the last two weeks. Of course, Election Day is on Tuesday, and you know, many more will be voting Tuesday. But so many people participating suggest that many people already have their minds made up. But because Georgia is a true battleground state, there are still independents here, still persuadable voters, and that is who Walker and Warnock are talking to at this point.
SANCHEZ: Eva McKend live from Atlanta, thank you so much.
There is a potential wildcard in the Georgia Senate race to win and avoid a runoff candidates have to get over 50 percent of the vote there and with razor thin margins separating Raphael Warnock and Herschel Walker. The presence of a little-known Libertarian candidate can tilt the scales and change the balance of power in the U.S. Senate.
So let's get to know him. Atlanta businessman Chase Oliver joins us now live. Chase, we're grateful to have you sharing part of your weekend with us. I mean, with all due respect, at best, you're going to get 3 percent of the vote on Tuesday night. Why are you running if you don't have a realistic chance of winning?
CHASE OLIVER, GEORGIA LIBERTARIAN SENATE CANDIDATE: Well, because I think our democratic process actually functions better when we have options that are outside of the two-party system. I think if you look at congressional approval ratings, you're going to see very, very low approval ratings. And that's a result of both parties being in power for the last 50 years, and not really being responsive to people.
And we get more and more hyper partisan. And as people pull away from each other, we need someone who's in the middle who's going to be an honest broker. And I want to provide that honest choice for Georgia voters who feel like the two-party system just -- isn't working for them.
SANCHEZ: I'm sure you've heard from both sides of the aisle who may even be a bit upset with you and refer to your candidacy as a spoiler candidacy. What do you say to them?
OLIVER: Well, in Georgia, we have run offs. So voting for me is not going to help either -- the other candidates win or get over 50 percent. Now, I would prefer if we had instant road -- run offs, rank choice voting like they have in Maine and Alaska, so we don't have to wait weeks more to figure out who wins the runoff.
But I think there's no possible way. Voting for me on -- in this general election is going to help either Warnock or Walker win outright. So you don't have to have that fear of me being a spoiler. And again, there are solutions that can make these runoffs instant so that we don't have to wait. But I believe that voters deserve to have a choice that isn't those two candidates.
SANCHEZ: So Chase, make the case, what is the platform, what is -- what are the highlights of your platform that separate you from Warnock and Walker?
[07:25:06] OLIVER: Well unlike the other two, I actually want to get things done with people all across the aisle. I think what we need in Georgia is an honest broker who's going to bring both sides of the aisle together around these major issues that really affect every voter, things like inflation, and the cost of groceries and the cost of living.
We have immigration reform that's been needing to be done for decades and decades. And we need somebody who's going to bring both sides together who doesn't owe allegiance to either party leadership. I am not owing allegiance to Chuck Schumer or Mitch McConnell, I owe allegiance to the people of Georgia and getting work done.
And with common sense solutions like balancing our budget, these are things that used to not be radical ideas, but now they are. And I want to get back to common sense governance.
SANCHEZ: You recently told Bloomberg News that if neither Herschel Walker nor Raphael Warnock got above 50 percent, it would be a lesson to them. What do you think that lesson is?
OLIVER: That lesson is, is that we need the two major parties to stop furthering themselves away and becoming more and more hyper partisan. We need to stop having this constant left versus right fighting and start actually coming together around the core issues that really matter to voters.
And if they're seeing this dissatisfaction, and not showing up in the polls for the major party candidates, that's a lesson for them to learn. They need to understand what those voters who aren't not voting for them or wanting and deliver.
SANCHEZ: Chase, I want to point out for our viewers, you've made history for being Georgia's first openly gay Senate candidate. Herschel Walker has declined to answer questions about his stance on same sex marriage. And there have been calls for this issue to be re- examined by the Supreme Court. Do you think Herschel Walker owes it to voters to make his views on same sex marriage clear?
OLIVER: I think he does. But I think if you look at the rest of his rhetoric around LGBTQ people, it's not hard to figure out where his allegiance probably lies there. Unless he says he is for same sex marriage, I'm going to assume based on his rhetoric that he isn't and I think Georgia voters should too.
And I think it's very important for voters to understand that, as an LGBTQ person, I'm very happy to be representing my community. I'm very honored to be doing it. But there are major issues that other candidates maybe aren't responding to. And I'm happily going to be fighting for same sex marriage rights and all those other things.
As libertarians, like myself, have been for the last 50 years, you know, we've been leading the mainstream, I'm glad that the major parties finally are starting to catch up to these things.
SANCHEZ: So if this race does wind up in a runoff, which candidate would you vote for? OLIVER: Well, I don't feel like I owe it to the voters to tell them who I'm going to be voting for, and trying to sway one way or the other. I haven't even decided if I'm going to vote in this runoff, because I really don't see which candidate really speaks to me the most. I think a lot of voters feel that way too.
But ultimately, it's not my decision to make. That's the decision of the voters to make. They're the ones who send this race to a runoff. And they're the ones who are going to decide who wins the runoff.
SANCHEZ: So you would strongly consider not even voting, say, the whole map gets shaken out to make it so that Georgia once again determines control of the Senate, whether it's in Republican or Democratic hands, you at that point would consider not voting?
OLIVER: Well, if I do vote, you know, that's my vote, single vote. It's the millions of other Georgia voters who are -- race, and you know, it's not my job, it's them what to do. That's not my job as a candidate. And I have always said, and I said in my debate with Senator Warnock that I will be welcoming both Senator Warnock and Herschel Walker to a forum. If this goes to a runoff, they can speak to those voters directly if they so choose.
SANCHEZ: Chase Oliver, we appreciate you standing for democracy and sharing your perspectives with us this morning. Thanks so much.
OLIVER: Thank you.
SANCHEZ: Of course.
WALKER: And we are following breaking news overseas. Yes, that is a small plane floating there on Lake Victoria. Heart stopping moments as bystanders rushed to save passengers. We're going to have more on the rescue efforts. Yes, there are many survivors after the short break.
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SANCHEZ: We've been following breaking news out of Tanzania this morning where several have been rescued after a commercial plane with a number of passengers on board crashed into Lake Victoria.
WALKER: Yes, really remarkable pictures that we are seeing. You can see passengers standing on the wings of the plane as rescue boats ferry them back to shore. A spokesperson for Precision Air, which owns the aircraft, says the plan went down near an airport located on Lake Victoria's western shore. And in a tweet, Tanzania's president sent his condolences to those affected and urged calm while rescuers continue to search for survivors.
Let's talk more about this now with Mary Schiavo. She's the former inspector general for the U.S. Department of Transportation and a CNN Transportation Analyst.
Hi there, Mary. So, what -- just looking at the pictures, what do you assess, at least in terms of how the pilot (ph) that reacted and what may have happened?
MARY SCHIAVO, CNN TRANSPORTATION ANALYST AND FORMER INSPECTOR GENERAL, USDOT: Well, yes. OK. We're taking off and taking off over water. I mean, they're our -- they're the most dangerous part of the flight, of course. And this plain, an ATR, they used to fly in the United States but they really don't anymore. There were a couple of crashes and especially crashes in icing that really saw them pass out of service from the U.S.
But the remarkable thing is, as that you reported, that people were standing on the wings because planes, you know, don't make very good boats and often they sink. Everyone remembers the miracle on the Hudson where the plane -- people were standing on the wings on the miracle on the Hudson. But people didn't realize is a lot of boats came quickly, and they got lines on the aircraft, pulled the lines tout to keep it from sinking.
So, the fact that they were able to get the plane -- pilot was able to get the plane down without crashing into the water but looks rather like landing in the water is really pretty good without knowing much more than that at this point.
So, the fact that 26 already have been rescued out of 43 passengers on board, that's very good for a crash or landing if you want to call it that, a water landing.
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SANCHEZ: We're just getting that information now from the airline and the Tanzanian authorities. It appears as though they are still in communication. They were able to communicate with the pilots in the cockpit, even when the plane was submerged. Can you walk us through the process of this kind of a rescue or an emergency landing as the plane is going down? What are the flight attendants supposed to be doing?
SCHIAVO: Well, flight attendants, because it's -- water is involved, there are a couple of things. First of all, they have to get them ready for a braced landing or a crash landing, if you will. And then they also have to get people into now, on a plane of this size, depending on whether it usually operated over water, it may not have life vests, but they may have to use for flotation is their seat cushions.
But if they regularly fly over water, they would have had life vests -- would have been required, depending upon the rules of the nation. So, the flight attendants would have had been getting them in their life vests, if they had them, but instructing them do not, do not, do not open them in the cabin. You can't -- you have to wait until you get out because otherwise you could get trapped in the cabin.
So, they have double emergency duty to do when it's suspected that they're going to land on water. But since they're standing on the wing and that it appears that they, you know, were able to get those messages across and get them out. Now, the problem also comes in some of the plane is submerged, of course. And so, getting people out once they're underwater is very difficult. The -- you know, lighting becomes an issue, that's a real problem. And so, they literally would have to help and help lead people, get people out of the plane, which has happened in other water landings. The flight attendants have to become, you know, rescue lifeguards.
WALKER: Yes, it's a total of 43 people on board and so far, 26 and more than half have been rescued, that is good news. I just want to ask you about this, I found this interesting. A local official was quoted as saying that they are trying to check if the wheels of the plane hit the ground underwater. And just judging from the pictures, you can see the water is pretty shallow. People are standing, it's up to, you know, some people's knees and waist. Is there a chance that -- does it look to you that the wheels did hit the ground of that lake?
SCHIAVO: Yes, that would explain why it didn't sink because planes sink very, very quickly. And that would explain also why if the plane is resting on the ground and that people are still able to get out, why there's the -- why there is, at this point, without knowing more, there's a very good chance that perhaps everybody could have survived.
So, miraculous that the wheels have touched the ground. Otherwise, the plane would sink very quickly, extremely quickly. In fact, you know, when I went through flight school, the instruction was if you have landed on water and you're -- you know, get your passengers and you out, don't, for any reason, if the plane -- even it hasn't sunk yet, do not go back to that aircraft because it will sink quickly. So, they're very fortunate it's resting on the ground.
WALKER: Wow. Really incredible story. We appreciate you getting on TV so quickly, Mary. Thank you. You look good.
SCHIAVO: Thank you.
WALKER: Appreciate it.
SCHIAVO: Thank you.
WALKER: We'll be right back.
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SANCHEZ: So, it looks like Thanksgiving is going to be a lot pricier this year. Market research firm IRI is predicting that your holiday meal is going to cost about 13 and a half percent more compared to what you paid last year. That prediction is based on retail pricing of things like turkey and other meats, baking essentials, beverages and popular Thanksgiving side dishes.
WALKER: And amid those soaring prices, U.S. consumers are changing the way they shop for food. They have to, right? Experts say more Americans are moving away from shopping at mainstream grocery stores and are now buying food items at low price, discount retailers like Trader Joe's, Aldi, and Lidl. I go to all three of them actually. More consumers are also switching over to store brands or private labels, which are often lower in price but comparable in quality.
For more now on this and for some really important tips is Chef Leanne Brown. She is the author of the self-care cookbook "Good Enough." And we so appreciate you joining us this morning. I think a lot of ears are perking up because we're all noticing just how much more we're paying at the grocery store. First of -- I mean, what are some staple, useful, affordable items that we should always have in the pantry, in the freezer, or the fridge.
LEANNE BROWN, COOKBOOK AUTHOR, "GOOD ENOUGH": Well, personally, I really love to go with eggs, pasta, rice, bread, that kind of thing, your basics. And then hearty vegetables, canned tomatoes, stuff like that that will last a long time and that you can, sort of, keep around and use in so many different ways, you're never going to regret buying that kind of food.
WALKER: And I do buy bread in bulk and I'll freeze it. So, is that a good idea to, you know, freeze a lot of these perishable items if they are freezable?
BROWN: Absolutely, yes. Of course, that's going to make your life much simpler and it'll just allow you to plan things. And it -- isn't it so nice to just be able to grab slices of bread out of the freezer anytime you wanted?
WALKER: Oh, yes.
BROWN: Just pop it in the toaster.
WALKER: I have a freezer full of bread but that's because I'm just obsessed with carbs.
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But back on topic, economists from Moody's says the typical U.S. household is spending about, what, $460 more every month to purchase the same basket of goods and services and that's compared to just last year. That is a lot of money. So, what are some tips for us to -- how to save money when we go to the grocery store? What kind of grocery store is and -- you know, beyond coupons, you know. How else can we save money?
BROWN: Well, everything you said, of course, trying for these more discounted places. The store brands, that kind of thing, comparing prices. But really, also, just making sure that you're getting organized and planning things so that we're minimizing things like waste. You know, when we go to the store without a plan and just, sort of, just grab a few things, then we end up, accidentally, they -- they'll sit on the counter for too long or we'll forget about them in the back of the fridge.
So, making plans will just -- it's a simple way to make sure you are staying on budget. And it gives you also a sense of control over the situation as well which is always really nice.
WALKER: Yes, that is so smart because when I go to places like Costco, I have no control and I get distracted by all the others besides food that is there. So, that -- you're so right, you've got to with a plan, you know, and stick with it.
And also, you know, I'm sure a lot of people have noticed that the prices of meat and dairy -- I mean, they've jumped. I think dairy prices jumped nearly 16 percent, meats up nine percent. For the meat eaters out there, how can carnivores still get their fill without breaking the bank?
BROWN: Yes, I get this question a lot. And I don't think the answer is, oh, no meat for you. It's really to think of meat as the -- as rather than the center of the plate, like a turkey dinner where it's the whole -- kind of the whole thing, thinking of it as the flavoring as in so many wonderful world cuisines, like, you might have rice and it's flavored with small amounts of meat.
And so, you have the flavor throughout but then you have vegetables and you have rice and you have sauces and all these kinds of things that are bulking it out. Make it a wonderful meal with all the flavor that you want without so much spent on the meat.
WALKER: I am becoming more and more of a vegetarian. I mean, there are so many flavors from vegetable, including potatoes, right, and sweet potatoes and -- yes. Great advise.
BROWN: All those wonderful things that are so good at this point.
WALKER: Did you have say, squash? Is that what you just said?
BROWN: Squash, yes.
WALKER: I love --
BROWN: All the squash --
WALKER: Yes, love, love squash. Leanne Brown, maybe I'll have to get your cookbook. It sounds like you know what you're talking about. Thank you so much.
BROWN: You're so welcome. Thank you.
SANCHEZ: For the second time in franchise history, the Astros are world series champs and they took the title of top team at home. Don't hear any garbage cans banging there in Houston this morning. We have a look at celebrations probably still continuing today. Stay with us.
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WALKER: For the second time in six years, the Houston Astros are celebrating a world series title beating the Philadelphia Phillies, four to one. Wrapping up the series with game six in Houston last night.
SANCHEZ: Let's bring in Coy Wire. He has all the highlights for us.
Good morning, Coy. I don't hear any garbage cans banging this time around.
COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR AND CORRESPONDENT: Yes, that's right, Boris. This time, I think, they're all set redemption in dig. Good morning, to you and Amara.
The Houston Astros, they've been to four in the last six world series. But they only have that one title to show for it, and that was in 2017. Many thinking it was tainted due to the signs dealing scandal. So, this was ultimate redemption for Houston who's sealed the deal in front of their home fans in game six.
One of their offensive heroes, Yordan Alvarez. I mean, he hit this ball like he was talking about his mama. He knew it was a home run, so did the 42,000 fans in the stands at Minute Maid Park. The three-run homer gave Houston the lead for good. Then Ryan Pressley came in to close it out in the 9th. And Kyle Tucker would rush over in the foul ball territory to make that grab, party is on.
The Phillies, after matching a world series record five home runs in game three had just nine hits in the next three games. Astros win three straight. It's 73-year-old manager, Dusty Baker's first ever managerial title. Our Andy Scholes was there in amongst the team after the big win in the locker room. Here he is.
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ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Now, the beer and champagne never tasted so good for the Houston Astros, after years of hearing the boos from the opposing fans after the sign sealing scandal. The Astros proving they truly are champions.
JEREMY PENA, 2022 WORLD SERIES MVP: Man, this is special. You know, this is what you work for the whole year. Couldn't have had it with a better group of guys. And, you know, we just showed the world that, you know, this team gets it done. And that's what we did.
RYAN PRESSLEY, HOUSTON ASTROS RELIEF PITCHER: I mean, it's -- it doesn't get any better than this, especially doing it in front of a home crowd. I mean, it's unbelievable.
SCHOLES: How amazing is this moment?
ALEX BREGMAN, HOUSTON ASTROS THIRD BASEMAN: This moment is great. This is what it's all about. Every single person played a role in this. Every single person stepped up. Worked so hard from day one in spring training. I'm just proud to be a part of this ball club and playing in front of this great fans.
SCHOLES: After everything the fans have had to hear for the last few years, I mean, how amazing is this for them? BREGMAN: I'm so happy that we were able to bring a championship this year to this city. So, many people. You can just see the energy on the streets everywhere. Everyone's pumped up wearing Astros gear. We're so fired up. Can't wait to see them at the parade now.
SCHOLES: And what a win this was for Astros manager, Dusty Baker. The 73-year-old had the most wins ever for a manager without winning the world series, but that is no more. And with six straight ALCS appearances, four world series in the past six years, and now two titles, this Astros team is going to go down as one of the best ever. In Houston, Andy Scholes, CNN.
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WIRE: And Andy might not ever be coming back. He IS a self-proclaimed Houston super fan.
WALKER: No, you couldn't tell.
WIRE: So, I hope that he survived that champagne.
WALKER: You couldn't tell in any of the interviews. I mean, his smile was like --
WIRE: Yes, veins popping out in his neck. I mean, he really -- that's passion.
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WALKER: He couldn't hold it in.
SANCHEZ: He's probably still partying somewhere in his underwear in the streets of Houston right now.
WIRE: No doubt. No doubt.
SANCHEZ: Coy Wire, thank you so much. Coy's got it.
WALKER: Thanks, Coy. Good to see you. And thank you so much for starting your morning with us.
SANCHEZ: And great to be with you as always, Amara. Stay tuned to CNN because "Inside Politics Sunday with Abby Phillip" is up after a quick break.
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