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Kim Kardashian at the Time 100 Summit; Rep. James Clyburn (D- SC) is Interviewed about Biden. Aired 8:30-9a ET
Aired April 26, 2023 - 08:30 ET
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POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: She is one of the most recognizable faces on TV, on social media. Kim Kardashian has more than 400 million followers on Twitter and Instagram combined. That number dwarfed by this one, 3.2 billion. That is the value of her shapewear and clothing company SKIMS. But no number is more important to her, the star, the entrepreneur and the activist, than the number four. She's a mom to four kids.
I sat down with her yesterday at the Time 100 Summit right here in New York.
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HARLOW: I was thinking a lot about sort of how you do business and observing it from the outside. Do you trust your gut?
KIM KARDASHIAN, ENTREPRENEUR AND FOUNDER, SKIMS: Absolutely.
HARLOW: Over the data? Over what other people say? Kim, you should do this. We should do this.
KARDASHIAN: Absolutely. And I like to be in business I think - there's two things. I like to do things that I will feel very confident in, that I obviously feel like I know what I'm doing. I want to learn, and surround myself with people that will support you in a way where you trust them so much in the area that they're going to run the business in and you give them that control and they trust you in the area that you really know. And if you just trust even other like that, it absolutely can be magic.
HARLOW: Equal respect and trust?
KARDASHIAN: Yes. And I do have, I think as you get a little bit older, and you learn a lot along the way, I think one of the most important things, and there was a time when I didn't have this luxury of choosing who I was in business with -
HARLOW: Yes.
KARDASHIAN: But if you're at a place and you take your time, you realize that you absolutely do not want to be in business with people you don't want to spend holidays with and that you don't like.
HARLOW: So, your dad. You've said that a lot of your work ethic, because I've heard you only sleep about five and a half hours a night, if that. A lot of it comes --
KARDASHIAN: Now.
HARLOW: Now. A lot of it comes from your dad. And you lost him when you were 22.
KARDASHIAN: Yes.
HARLOW: He died from cancer. Just a two-month battle with cancer. He was a lawyer and your dream was to follow in his footsteps. We were talking about this backstage. My dad, too, lawyer, died when I was young, four months in the hospital. So, I understand that and wanting to make them so proud.
Is his memory and what he wanted for you and what you learned from him a driving force now in your criminal justice work?
KARDASHIAN: Absolutely. But I know that he would probably get such a kick out of this because he wouldn't have expected it at all.
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We talked so much about me going to law school and he always said he would help, give us an allowance if we stayed in school. And I couldn't - couldn't do it. I was like, I'm on my own. I don't care. I'm not going to go to -- I didn't finish school. And then now that the opportunity came about, all these years later, it's so much more meaningful to me.
HARLOW: Didn't he tell you not to be a lawyer?
KARDASHIAN: He did. He did. He did say it was -
HARLOW: Well, she's going to be a lawyer.
KARDASHIAN: He did warn me how stressful it is and said, I know you, you're not going to want to go through this. So, figure out something else to do.
But I will say, I did learn my work ethic from my dad.
HARLOW: Yes.
KARDASHIAN: But I learned so much more from my mom than I ever give her credit for and that I ever -- you know --
HARLOW: So give Kris credit right now.
KARDASHIAN: Yes. I don't know, is it a thing. Like you kind of give - this is like I'm not even trying to be funny, but you kind of give the dead parent a lot of credit, you know? HARLOW: I mean it's so true. My - my - my mom said the same thing to
me. We did this video for CNN all about my dad and she's, like, I love it, Poppy, but, you know, I was there, too.
KARDASHIAN: Yes. I'm still here. What about me?
HARLOW: I was there, too.
KARDASHIAN: Yes.
HARLOW: I get it.
KARDASHIAN: I'm sorry, mom. You know, if you watch this, I feel like we've always given my dad so much credit.
HARLOW: What - what did she teach you.
KARDASHIAN: Well deserving, but she - I mean the one thing is she taught us how to have a home. How to make a home. And all of my -- I mean I'm - she's the most nostalgic, sentimental personal. So she kept everything from when we were growing up. I could find a tooth, I could find locks of hair, I could find -- she has these chests that she saved for us with baby books.
HARLOW: Wow.
KARDASHIAN: And so I do that with all of my kids.
HARLOW: Wow.
KARDASHIAN: And I write each one of my kids a letter, like a four or five-page letter every year on their birthday that I'll give them when they're 21.
HARLOW: (INAUDIBLE).
KARDASHIAN: And, you know, about what we did through the whole year and what their favorite shows are and what they like to eat and who their friends are. And --
HARLOW: You do this for every child?
KARDASHIAN: Yes.
HARLOW: I definitely feel like I'm under performing in the parents department.
KARDASHIAN: Yes.
HARLOW: Next year we'll do it.
KARDASHIAN: It's a lot. It's a lot.
HARLOW: So -
KARDASHIAN: So, she taught us how to be ready good moms. HARLOW: How to make a home. I don't - I - I love being a homemaker and
I love working and I don't know often that we talk about both. So, I'm really glad that you said that. You have said, my 40s are about being team me. Me, too.
KARDASHIAN: 40s are the best.
HARLOW: So far, so good. I've got almost a year in the books.
KARDASHIAN: Exactly.
HARLOW: I agree. Any advice for folks on team me?
KARDASHIAN: Just, oh my God, I have so much advice and I'm blanking. I mean I think it's just really simple. Like, I live my life just trying to be a good person, be -- do right by other people, you know, be kind to everyone, and focus on yourself. Sometimes you need to give yourself a little bit more love. Sometimes other people need a little bit more love. And there's just enough to go around.
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HARLOW: I'm a big fan.
KAITLAN COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR: A lot of time you spent with her.
HARLOW: Yes, I'm a -
COLLINS: Yes.
HARLOW: Look, I mean, I think you reinvent yourself in life. And to put -- use that platform and that power to try to get people out of jail and help reform the justice system, good on her.
COLLINS: Yes. And we'll see. I mean the impact it could have with Richard Glossip, we'll see what that looks like.
HARLOW: Yes, we will.
COLLINS: All right, we'll have more on that.
Also today, President Biden is actually going to start his first television ad in key battleground states. That came after he announced he's running for re-election yesterday officially yesterday. We're going to talk to Congressman Jim Clyburn, of course a very close Biden ally, about some of the challenges that his new race may face. That's next.
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COLLINS: All right, a notable update out of Idaho for you this morning. The attorneys for the person you see there, the quadruple murder suspect, Bryan Kohberger, want one the victim's roommates it testify in his upcoming preliminary hearing. Bethany Funke is one of the two people who survived the deadly attack that night. She moved home to Reno, Nevada, after the murders happened. And now documents show that Kohberger's attorneys are asking a Nevada court to compel her to travel to Idaho and testify as a witness for Kohberger in June. They claim that she has information, they say, is exculpatory to him. Funke is resisting right now. Her attorney actually filed a motion on Friday to quash that subpoena. Kohberger, as we know, has been charged with four counts of first-degree murder. If he is found guilty, he could face the death penalty. He has yet to enter a plea.
HARLOW: Montana's Republican dominated house is now considering disciplinary action against a Democratic state representative. Zooey Zephyr, who is transgender, has been silenced since last Thursday when she said her Republican colleagues would have, quote, blood on their hands, closed quote, if they banned gender-affirming care for transgender minors.
Here she is on "AC 360" last night.
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ZOOEY ZEPHYR (D), MONTANA STATE HOUSE: I see the real harm these bills - these bills brings, and the deaths they could potentially lead to. And I stand by holding the Republicans accountable for their policies.
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HARLOW: On Monday, police arrested seven people for protesting the house's refusal to let her speak.
COLLINS: Also, this just in, federal regulators are now creating a safety review panel after several close calls on runways across the country. You have seen many of these near collisions that involve commercial airliners that we all fly on at major airports. Those have left regulators and passengers with more questions than answers about whether or not they're safe in the sky and on the tarmac. The panel comes as the agency's acting administrator, Billy Nolan, who is going to be testifying on Capitol Hill this morning, is preparing to step down, raising questions, of course, about a vacuum in leadership there.
HARLOW: Today, President Biden will begin his first television buy in key battleground states. So, the race for the White House again is on. One of his closest allies in Congress, Congressman Jim Clyburn, is here next.
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JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: My dad used to have an expression. He'd say, Joey, don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative.
Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative. He said, Joey, don't compare me to the almighty -
Compare me to the alternative.
REP. JAMES CLYBURN (D-SC): As he always say, don't compare me to the almighty -
SEN. CHRIS COONS (D-DE): Compare me to the alternative.
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HARLOW: Do you think they like that phrase that you heard there? A number of people, and President Biden, quipping about who not to measure him against. But will just not being Trump be enough for the second term?
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Joining me now is the man who you might say was the biggest help, propelling Biden in winning the 2020 nomination, and ultimately the White House, Congressman Jim Clyburn of South Carolina. He is assistant Democratic leader and also a 2024 Biden campaign co-chair.
I know you don't like to take the credit, but a lot of folks give you a whole lot of credit.
Good morning.
REP. JAMES CLYBURN (D-SC): Good morning. Thank you very much for having me.
Well, you know, I do believe that this country is worth every bit of the effort all of its people put into it. And we try to do the things that are necessary to keep our pursuit of a more perfect union on track. And that's all we were trying to do back in 2020. The country had gotten off track.
We were visited by a pandemic, which was the worst health care crisis we had had in 100 years, and we needed leadership. And we were not getting it. People were dying. Children home from school. People couldn't get to work. We wanted leadership. The previous administration was not providing it. And I saw in Joe Biden what over 7 million more Americans saw in him than saw in continuance of the other regime.
And here we are today. Our country is back on track. Our children are back in school. People are working. The economy is humming along. Infrastructure is being built. Broadband is being delivered. We have rescued this economy. Our veterans are now back being taken care of.
Joe Biden has put us to where we need to be, and I think we need to keep it going.
HARLOW: OK. A lot there. One driver, obviously, getting kids back in school is the Covid vaccine that came during the Trump presidency. But I hear you. But one good thing, Congressman, about getting a second shot at
something is you can improve on things. So I'm interested in what you think if President Biden were to win a second term he could improve on in the second term.
CLYBURN: Well, I think we need to build upon the foundation that we have laid. It is one thing to rescue the economy, it's something else to keep it humming along. So, we've had this rescue plan. That's not to be concluded, that is to begin. We now have this bipartisan infrastructure bill that is beginning to bill out. You know we need many more road constructions that we are getting - than we currently can afford. We need much -- many more bridges to be built that have been falling down all over America. Our children still need diversity in their educational pursuits. We have a lot left to be done.
HARLOW: So -
CLYBURN: So, I keep telling people, this is not just about anti-Trump, this is about a vision for what America's future can be.
HARLOW: It was certainly notable that his campaign announcement started with video of the insurrection.
But I was struck by this, Governor Chris Sununu of New Hampshire, who may run for president in 2024 in the Republican Party, was asked yesterday here in New York about Biden's age.
Listen to what he said.
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GOV. CHRIS SUNUNU (R-NH): President Biden -- he moves slow. He does not take questions. He rambles. He bumbles. So, yes, I don't think we're putting our best foot forward. I don't think we're seeing the best Joe Biden, right? Joe Biden has had much better days.
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HARLOW: Has Biden had better days?
CLYBURN: We all have had better days and we all have had worse days. An age does not have much to do with that. The fact of the matter is, Joe Biden has demonstrated time and time again that he has a vision that we need going forward.
If I might use a sports metaphor, I tell my friends all the time, I'm two years older than Joe Biden. I do not hit the golf ball as far as I used to hit it, but I score much better these days than I used to because I take my time, I play within myself, and I make the putts. And that's what Joe Biden has been doing, taking his time, doing the things that are necessary to get this country moving again.
And the country is moving. What do you want, an older man with wisdom or a young man with nothing but style?
HARLOW: Who's the young man with nothing but style? CLYBURN: Well, the younger man who has nothing but style, only three
years younger.
HARLOW: Trump. All right.
CLYBURN: Is one of them.
HARLOW: Young, relative term.
Appreciate your time, Congressman Clyburn. Thanks.
CLYBURN: Thank you very much.
COLLINS: Definitely relative.
Also this morning, all right, it's time for our "Morning Moment." There is -- look at this (INAUDIBLE) video that was captured on camera.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's a little kid off of track three. I don't know if he fell off the wall or something, but he's -
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Emergency, emergency, emergency. Metro 737 (INAUDIBLE). We need you to kill rail. We got a toddler on the tracks, over.
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COLLINS: You hear the concern there. Now you see him running. That was a three-year-old rescued after he had got on to the train tracks at a stop outside of New York City. This happened just a few weeks ago. Luckily, the conductor spotted the child. An assistant conductor jumped down to the tracks, as you can see him here running, to get to him.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (EXPLETIVE DELETED) he's on the third rail
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Metro 737c, this toddler's right on the third rail. Over.
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COLLINS: A toddler. The conductor, as you can see here, he grabbed the child, who at one point was on top of that third rail. It's electrified. The conductor carried him safely to the side. The toddler was then brought on board the metro-north train. The boy, who we are now told is autistic, was reunited with his family, who was deeply worried about him. Metropolitan Transportation authorities - officials are referring to it as a daring rescue and they have rewarded those employees who had some very quick responses here. So lucky for them.
HARLOW: So lucky. What a total hero.
COLLINS: Yes, the video is just amazing.
HARLOW: Yes.
COLLINS: All right, thank you so much for joining us this morning. Busy day here on CNN.
"CNN NEWS CENTRAL" starts right after this break.
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