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Special Counsel Blasts Judge; Normalization of January 6th Attack; Nebraska Electoral System Change; Musk Restores Blue Checks; DNC Targets RFK JR. Aired 6:30-7a ET

Aired April 04, 2024 - 06:30   ET

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KASIE HUNT, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome back.

Former President Donald Trump will likely face one criminal trial before the election - at least one, I should say - the hush money case in New York. This morning, there are serious questions about the timing of another of the cases, the Florida classified documents case. In a filing leaked Tuesday, special counsel Jack Smith blasted Judge Aileen Cannon for her handling in the case, arguing the judge's decision and tactics are ultimately stalling.

Here was former Trump White House lawyer Ty Cobb last night.

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TY COBB, FORMER TRUMP WHITE HOUSE LAWYER: I think the evidence of her bias is pretty palpable at this stage of the game. I think the 11th Circuit tried desperately to draw a line for her. But her delays here are extraordinary.

The filing today makes it plain that she has to rule. And if she doesn't rule under either - under either scenario, they'll be in a position to take her up to the 11th Circuit. And I think 11th Circuit will likely take her off the case.

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HUNT: OK.

Joining me now, CNN's senior crime and justice reporter Katelyn Polantz. Our panel is also still here.

Katelyn, good morning. Wonderful to see you.

The judge in the hush money case basically dispensing with this kind of last-minute Trump attempt to delay the case there. But this stuff that's going on with Aileen Cannon, this sort of surprise filing from Jack Smith and now Ty Cobb racing - raising the possibility that she could actually get thrown off of that case. Can you help us understand - like, is that a possibility? How would that play out? KATELYN POLANTZ, CNN SENIOR CRIME AND JUSTICE REPORTER: It always

could be. There are steps before you really get to that point. There's one thing that's outstanding still that she hasn't ruled on about releasing witness names that is in the position if she rules against what the Justice Department wants, which is to protect FBI agent names and witness names in this case. They already lost that once before her, asked her to reconsider. If they lose again, then that is primed to go to the appeals court.

You can't always do this thing called mandamus. That's the legal term for it where you take an appeal out of line with the typical process. But there's a lot happening in this case that she just isn't ruling on. And this filing from Jack Smith says, move this along promptly. You're asking us to engage in thought exercises that just don't make sense. That's the position of the Justice Department, the prosecutors. And also, on top of that, it's been 34 days, not just not ruling on anything that's been fully briefed, but 34 days since both sides appeared before her and asked her to set a trial date and gave her proposed schedules. Nothing.

Shermichael, what is your sense of - I mean this is obviously becoming very political, right?

Yes.

HUNT: This is getting to the point where there are allegations of bias against this judge, that she is biased in favor of Donald Trump. Do you buy that based on what you've seen?

SHERMICHAEL SINGLETON, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I mean, look, I think any criminal defendant would love to have a friend like Judge Cannon. I mean it's very obvious where - where she - where she lies on this.

But I think, overall, this is a part of the former president's political strategy to try to delay these trials as much as possible. I think the New York case may not have the same political implications as January 6 or the Fani Willis case in Georgia, or the one in Florida, which is where a lot of Americans are wondering, will we potentially have to vote for someone who's a convicted felon? And I think Donald Trump is acutely aware of that. So, if you can delay this thing right up until the last minute, he's going to try to accomplish that.

HUNT: Yes, I mean, look, I've been with you in agreeing that this hush money case is probably the least impactful, David, except for the fact that now it may be the only one.

DAVID FRUM, STAFF WRITER, "THE ATLANTIC": Right. Right. But there's a weird kind of karmic justice here. I mean, like you, I have thought the New York case was the weakest and least consequential. I wrote about that for "The Atlantic" at the time when it was posted, saying, please don't bring this indictment.

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This is the wrong case.

But it looks like, as so often with the American justice system, this may be the only justice there is because of the - whatever's going on in Florida, weather Judge Cannon is an ally of Trump's or whether she's just having a kind of personal meltdown under the weight of all of this responsibility. Panic and cowardice may be as much a part of the story as bias in Georgia because the poor judgment of prosecutor Fani Willis, which has derailed that case and certainly brought some delays. That New York may be the only case there is, the only chance for the American system to say, trying to overthrow the government of the United States is bad and should be discouraged.

HUNT: Right, except that this is actually about the 2016 election, porn stars and hush money. A the totally different topic.

Speaking of January 6th, it has now been more than three years since the deadly assault on the Capitol. Some of the people who were convicted for participating are just now being sentenced. Among them is Taylor Johnatakis, who was convicted of seven crimes, including assaulting a police officer. There he is. In the months since his conviction, he has downplayed the events of the day, saying, quote, "everything about January 6th is just overblown."

We're just going to stay for a second on this video, OK. The word he used was "overblown."

He was sentenced to seven years in prison yesterday by District Judge Royce Lamberth, who used the opportunity to issue this stark warning. Judge Lamberth said, quote, "this cannot become normal. We cannot condone the normalization of the January 6th U.S. Capitol riot."

And that, of course, is at odds with how former President Donald Trump talks about the day and the people who were there.

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DONALD TRUMP (R), FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT AND 2024 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: They ought to release the J 6th hostages. They've suffered enough. They ought to release them.

You see the spirit from the hostages, and that's what they are is hostages.

We're going to be working on that soon. The first day we get into office, we're going to save our country.

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HUNT: David Frum, this attempts to rewrite history from the former president. I mean the judge here was very stark in saying we cannot normalize this. Because that's what's happening. It is being normalized.

FRUM: Well, this particular defendant made some statements and questions at the sentencing trial that revealed that he adheres to an ideology called the Sovereign Citizen Movement, which says that by reciting magic cheat codes, you can have all the benefits of being a citizen of the United States or whatever state you live in, and if you call 911 they will come, if the - if your house catches fire, the fire department will come. You can have all of those benefits. But by saying these magic words, you don't have to have any obligations. You don't have to have a driver's license if you want to drive. You don't have to pay taxes. And you don't have to refrain from attacking the Congress of the United States. It may be, of all the conspiracy theories out there, the stupidest. But large numbers of people - a large number of people believe it.

But what Donald Trump is doing is offering his - offering many Americans the opportunity to be released from their civic obligations. If you lose an election, you have to smile and work next time. And who hasn't lost an election. You have to smile and work next time. You cannot turn to violence.

But there are people, and a growing number of people think those obligations don't apply to them. They only have claims, they don't have duties.

HUNT: Yes.

Kate Bedingfield, the Biden campaign, and Democrats obviously, in particular Present Biden himself, honestly, very much seems to personally identify with what happened on January 6th. The election was stolen from - was attempted to be stolen from him, right? It's personal. It's very motivating for him. They - he has argued that the Democrats should be running on democracy and protecting democracy.

When you see what Trump is doing, what these defendants are arguing, what this judge is saying, the - I guess my question is that, is this the January 6th people are hostages? Is that breaking through with Americans past like just core Trumps supporters? Like -

KATE BEDINGFIELD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Yes.

HUNT: How is it being received?

BEDINGFIELD: Yes. The short answer is, no, I don't think that it is breaking through beyond - this is - this is a Donald Trump base argument. This is what MAGA wants to hear. This is - this has become like a piece of identity for them.

I think for most Americans, it actually - it doesn't land because most people look at the footage, like we were just watching there, and see a violent mob attacking the Capitol. And, you know, when you grow up in this country and you're going to elementary school and you're learning about government and you're learning about the separation of powers and - most Americans view the protection of their right to vote, their freedoms, the peaceful transfer of power as fundamentally American identity. And I think for Trump, you know, it - for Trump to make the centerpiece of his campaign, trying to take that away, or subvert that, no, I don't think that's going to land. I think this is going to be a powerful motivator for voters who might be otherwise frustrated with Biden or otherwise frustrated with politics.

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I think Donald Trump is giving a huge opening to Biden and the Biden campaign to make this election about something that people feel really strongly in their bones. And they should.

HUNT: Shermichael.

SINGLETON: I think Kate is 100 percent correct. There may be people who are angry, upset, disgruntled about a whole host of issues. And here's Donald Trump talking about the election, you know, being stolen, or these people are freedom fighters. And most people saying, wait a minute here, man, I'm with you on the economy, I'm with you on immigration, but this is nuts. What the hell are you talking about?

If I were advising the former president, I've said this on your show before, Kasie, electoral politics is about addition, not subtraction. Your base, they're with you. Those folks have been with Donald Trump for four plus years now. He has to figure out how in the world can you convince some of those folks in the middle, in those very tight battleground states that we've been talking about for a year-and-a- half now, to move back over to his corner. This is not how you accomplish that.

HUNT: Before we wrap up on this topic, speaking of the normalization of what happened on January 6th, I just want to show you what Mike Johnson had to say on "Newsmax" a couple of days ago. I had initially missed this when he said this, but I want to show it to you.

Watch.

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REP. MIKE JOHNSON (R-LA): I made a commitment immediately and I got the gavel that we would start releasing that. Originally we were trying to blur some of the faces to protect the innocent. You know, people who were just there and just happened to be walking through the building. But then we realized a lot of this is out there in the - in the public anyway and so, yes, we're releasing them, Eric, as fast as we possibly we.

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HUNT: So, the quote is, again, he wanted to protect people who were just there and just happened to be walking through the building.

David Frum, this is the speaker of the House of Representatives.

FRUM: Well, he - this goes to show some of his haplessness and one of the reasons why he is so entangled over his own shoelaces. But I just want to pick up on this point about what this is going to mean for the country and the election. Well, there's a great American novel called the long goodbye in which the hero, private detective, finally gets rid of an annoying and actually criminal friend. And he says - when he says goodbye to the friend, you talk too damn much and too damn much of it is about you. And I think that's going to be American's verdict on President Trump, that he's not talking, as Shermichael said, he's not talking about anything that you care about. He's not offering to do - you know, are your medical cost too high? Are you worried about your mother going to a nursing home and how you'll pay for it? Are you worried about inflation? Are you worried about prices? No, he has nothing to say about that. Everything is about him. He talks too damn much and too damn much of it is about him.

HUNT: All right. Coming up next here, rescuers race to save hundreds of people trapped by the deadly earthquake in Taiwan.

Plus, a corn husker curveball. Why Nebraska's electoral votes are suddenly the hottest topic in politics.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What happens when there's - when there's a tie?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everybody goes online to try to find out what happens if we get a tie.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Way ahead of you. (EXPLETIVE DELETED), I'm just getting how to tie a tie.

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HUNT: Is it "Veep" or is it real life? What does happen if there's a tie on election night? Well, Donald Trump and the GOP think that the answer could lie in Nebraska. The former president and his allies are pressuring lawmakers to change how the state awards its Electoral College votes, by switching the state to a winner take all system. Right now they award one congressional - one delegate - one electoral vote to each congressional district. That leaves, as you can see, it would strip President Biden's ability to pick up an electoral vote from Omaha's blue second congressional districts.

There is a scenario where this makes - this is one of Biden's clearest pathways to re-election. And when every vote matters, that could make all the difference.

Nebraska lawmakers rejected the first attempt last night to make the change, but supporters plan to try again today.

The panel is back.

Let me show you a little bit of the debate that we had on the floor of the Nebraska legislature, because I'm a political nerd. But it's actually kind of great as there were people who were opposing this change. The president, former President Trump, is really pushing for it himself.

Watch.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) STATE REP. MEGAN HUNT (I-NE): Pathetic worm Donald Trump thinks that he knows what's best for Nebraska and what Nebraskans want.

But this man is building up the governor. You know, obviously wants this electoral vote because he's so scared he can't win the presidency without it.

STATE REP. MECHAELA CAVANAUGH (D-NE): I want to throw up. And I want to go to bed. But I can't because I don't trust you. And you don't deserve to be trusted.

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HUNT: OK, a lot of emotion there.

But, David Frum, this is actually a very realistic possibility that if this one vote and, you know, I - we - we don't have our data nerd, Harry Enten, here to kind of give us a map of this, but there is a very realistic possibility that this actual one electoral vote could decide the election one way or the other.

FRUM: You don't have to be a big nerd. You just have to remember these simple facts. The last time the Republican candidate for president got more votes than the Democratic candidate for president was 2004. And the last time before that was 1988. So, you have to be in your 30s to have participated in an election where the Republican won more votes, and you have to be in your 50s to have participated in two elections where the Republican got more votes.

HUNT: You're talking about the popular vote?

FRUM: More vote - yes.

HUNT: Yes.

FRUM: So, when Republicans - but there have been a lot of Republican presidents because when it comes time to count all the votes, Republicans say, what matters is respected minority rights. And we have this magnificent mechanism called the Electoral College. And the fact that it happens consistently to work to our advantage is not the reason why we cherish it.

HUNT: Definitely not the point.

FRUM: It's because of its sacred - the sacred principles here.

So, Nebraska has an Electoral College. Nebraska has minority representation. Well, no, at the state level, the majority must prevail.

I mean so - so it's very important that the will of the majority of Nebraskan prevail, but it is utterly unimportant that the majority of Americans prevail.

[06:50:07] And if you can sort that out, then I think you've got a job waiting for you on the floor of the Nebraska state legislature to make the case that I'm trying to explain.

HUNT: Kate, is the Biden campaign focused on this? Because, I mean, I kind of think they should be.

BEDINGFIELD: Look, they are focused on - they are focused on every conceivable path to 270. So, yes, of course, they are - they are watching this. They are focused on this. You know, they are making decisions and will make decisions as the campaign progresses about where they put their - their resources. They have, you know, focused on this district in Nebraska in the past because every electoral vote matters because you have to get to 270.

So - so, yes, they are. I think, look, this is clearly a very, as David was laying out, you know, it was clearly a very partisan attempt to try to narrow the path for Joe Biden and widen the path for Donald Trump. I think people see it for what it is. We'll see what the Nebraska legislature does.

But yes, of course, the Biden campaign's focused on this. They're focused on every possible pathway to get to 270.

HUNT: So, speaking of it being obvious what it is, Shermichael, here was what Donald Trump had to say about this. "Governor Jim Pillen of Nebraska," I wonder if he really knew who he was before this, but, you know, hey, "a very smart and popular governor, who's done some really great things, came out today with a very strong letter in support of returning Nebraska's electoral vote to a winner-take-all system. Most Nebraskan have wanted to go back to this system for a very long time because it's what 48 other states do. It's what the founders intended and it's right for Nebraska."

This is making David Frum's argument for him.

SINGLETON: Yes, I mean, look, that's typical Trump. But what I will say is, it's - it's why you see a very different presidential election this time - or campaign this time around compared to 2016. Whatever we may say about some of Trump's more outlandish remarks on the campaign stump, or things he posts on Truth Social, there are very dedicated, very serious, very talented individuals actually running that campaign. Chris Lacivita, Susie Wiles, these are talented individuals.

And if you look at Trump's campaign during the Republican primary process, his campaign early on when state-by-state getting local - statewide GOPs to change the rules to winner-take-all, which benefited Donald Trump comparative to many of his components -- opponents.

FRUM: Except Maine, were winner-take-all would hurt Donald Trump.

SINGLETON: Well, that's right, except Maine.

FRUM: Yes. In Maine the - there's a sacred principle that the minority must be respected.

BEDINGFIELD: Minority must be - yes, in Maine, that's -

FRUM: But not in Nebraska, where the minority must not be respected.

BEDINGFIELD: Well, it's - it's very different, obviously. If you can't see that, then I can't help you.

HUNT: Yes. Just to be clear, Maine is the one other state on the map that also awards -

SINGLETON: Now, there are some special (ph) - Kasie, now remember, Trump will say the governor is the worst human being on the planet of the earth if he doesn't get this across the finish line for Donald Trump. He loves him today. He'll hate him tomorrow.

HUNT: Yes. So, what - I mean is this going to happen, do we think?

FRUM: I have no idea, but I think it - but it is -- I wouldn't be surprised. But I think what it does point to is that this is not an election where Donald Trump has any realistic idea that he can actually persuade a majority or even a plurality of Americans. That his strategy is always, how do I convert fewer votes into more power? Because most Americans reject me and what I stand for.

HUNT: OK.

With that, it is 52 minutes past the hour. Here's your morning roundup.

Crews are combing through rubble to save - try to save 101 people trapped after the 7.4 earthquake rocked Taiwan. Experts say a slew of aftershocks could make the search and rescue more dangerous.

Disney, Bob Iger really, winning a proxy battle against a group of activist investors seeking seats on the company's board of directors. That shareholder vote was a major victory for Iger, the chief executive, who now has to search for a successor.

And this.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Five, four, three, two, one.

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HUNT: NASA will launch rockets into the path of Monday's total solar eclipse. It's a way scientists can conduct experiments to better understand some of the biggest mysteries in the solar system.

And, Elon Musk does an about face. He has brought back the blue verification badge on many influential accounts on the platform formerly known as Twitter. Musk says accounts with more than 2,500 verified followers will get premium features for free. Last year Musk stripped the badges from anyone who wasn't paying for it.

I have to say, guys, I - this was what I woke up to in my Twitter feed this morning was, mine is back. Full disclosure.

BEDINGFIELD: As was mine.

HUNT: I am not paying for it. I've never really fussed about it that much.

I mean, what - maybe it will make my sort of verified (INAUDIBLE) more like -

SINGLETON: So many people confused about this, Kasie, this morning. I was looking at some of my friend's posts and I was like, wait a minute, am I paying for this all of a sudden? I mean Elon Musk needs to figure out what in the heck he's doing with X. It's all over the place.

HUNT: Well, I mean, it seems like, David, that they're - this is the reality is that there are other platforms that are threatening him. And he realizes he seems to have busted one of the things that was most valuable about it.

FRUM: Well, I used to use Twitter a lot.

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I still use it some. I used it mostly as an inbound information source. And Elon Musk has substantially damaged that. In the -- before Elon Musk, if something happened somewhere in the world, an earthquake in Taiwan, an outbreak of conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, you could, with a little bit of work, in ten or 12 minutes if you knew what you were doing, find the people to trust, and you could begin to learn - even if you never wrote about it, you could learn about it. And that functionality has really been damaged.

And the blue check marks are very nice. I hope people enjoy them.

But - but the -

HUNT: Did yours come back? Sorry, did I hear you say that? You haven't looked?

FRUM: I had a - I have a pretty big following, so I didn't lose it in the first - I was over -

HUNT: OK. Understood.

FRUM: There's a certain amount where I didn't lose it in the first place.

HUNT: That's good.

FRUM: But what - I've never cared about that. What I care about is its functionality as an inbound machine, as an information gathering device, as a way to learn about places in the world where other platforms aren't there to give voice to local reporters in places of danger. And that functionality has not been fixed. And that's the thing that, from my point of view, most needs to happen. HUNT: Yes.

All right, now there's this. The Democratic National Committee targeting potential spoiler candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. The group running mobile billboard outside pro-Kennedy fundraisers this week highlighting just who Kennedy's biggest donor is.

Watch.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (singing): Thank you for being a friend. Travel down the road and back again. Your heart is true, you're a pal and a confidant.

ON SCREEN TEXT: RFK JR. has the same biggest donor as Donald Trump.

RFK Jr. is raking in millions of dollars from MAGA/Trump donors.

Why is Donald Trump's top donor spending $20 million to prop up RFK Jr. and Nicole Shanahan?

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HUNT: OK, they are, of course, underscoring, Kate, that Donald Trump and RFK Jr. share a major political donor. Where do you think this stands? I mean, how would you evaluate kind of the DNC's and, you know, the efforts to tamp down Kennedy's campaign?

BEDINGFIELD: Yes. Yes. Well, I mean, look, I think it's smart for the DNC to do this. I think the Democrats need to be aggressive about not letting Kennedy go undefined and unchecked throughout the race. I don't think that President Biden needs to engage Robert Kennedy directly, but I do think this is the kind of thing they should be doing. They should be spending money on making sure that people know who Kennedy is, and also that they understand that there isn't a world in which Robert f. Kennedy Jr. is going to be president of the United States. He's not going to win enough electoral votes to be president.

And so I think what the Democrats also have to do is help people understand, is run an education campaign essentially to help people understand that a vote for Robert Kennedy is a vote for Donald Trump. It's not a vote to put someone else in the White House.

So, I think it's smart for them to do this. We know this is going to be a close race. We know third party candidates have the potential to swing battleground states. And so for them to sit back and just give Kennedy a free pass I think wouldn't be smart. It would be foolhardy.

FRUM: Well, there's been a lot of talk - we've talked about it on the show before, about how the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. voter might come from Donald Trump. But the thing to remember is what we're talking about here with this money is Robert F. Kennedys super PAC money. Robert F. Kennedy does not control his own super PAC. It's controlled by the donors. And those donors are Trump donors. And so whatever Kennedy says where - in his speeches, the money that is spent by that PAC will be spent - that super PAC will be spent to attack Biden because the people are funding it, the people are directing it. They want to hurt Biden. Whatever's in Robert F. Kennedy's anti-vax mind.

HUNT: And the reality too, Shermichael, is that Donald Trump has a hard ceiling on a hard floor, right?

SINGLETON: Yes, he does.

HUNT: And so to the extent that there are people to move, they're moving in and out of Biden's camp, potentially toward RFK.

SINGLETON: Yes, I mean, those margins are almost nonexistent for the former president. When you look at President Biden, in some of those close states where you're looking at numbers of 11,000 plus in Georgia, or, you know, 33,000 in a place like Arizona, 22,000 in Wisconsin, having someone on the ballot that could potentially pull some votes away from President Biden certainly helps the former president.

But I agree with Kate, Democrats are absolutely smart to educate voters on the threat that Robert F. Kennedy poses if you're trying to make sure that President Biden has a smooth sailing into November.

HUNT: All right, I will leave all of you with this.

Do you remember Chumbawamba?

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I get knocked down, but I get up again. You're never gonna keep me down.

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HUNT: I definitely want to see more than six seconds of the video. Guys, can we just bring that back? That band is demanding New Zealand's deputy prime minister, Winston Peters, stop playing "Tubthumping" at political rallies. The band says everything Peters stands for is counters - counter to Chumbawamba's world view. It's a reminder rockstars and one hit wonders - do we need to call them one hit wonder? I love that song, you guys. But they are picky about their politics.

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ELTON JOHN, MUSICIAN (singing): Hold me closer, tiny dancer.

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HUNT: Back in 2016, Elton John told "The Guardian" he didn't want Trump to play - Trump to play his music, saying, I don't really want my music to be involved in anything to do with an American election campaign. I am British. Fair enough, Elton.

Sam Moore from Sam and Dave, they objected to Barack Obama using "Hold on, I'm Comin" during his 2008 campaign. And that same year -

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ABBA (singing): Take a chance. Take a chance.

Honey I'm still free, take a chance on me.

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HUNT: AABA denied John McCain's request to use "Take a Chance on Me." The Republican nominee took it in stride, telling Reuters, "it's more difficult to play 'Let's Take a Chance on Me' than I thought. It gets expensive in a big hurry and if you're not careful you could alienate some Swedes."

Fair enough. Mr. McCain.

Did Biden ever have this problem?

BEDINGFIELD: I don't think so.

HUNT: I don't remember any.

BEDINGFIELD: I don't think so. We used "Higher Love," Kygo, so, in 2020.

HUNT: Love it.

BEDINGFIELD: And he always loved "Simply the Best" in all of his campaigns he used "Simply the Best."

HUNT: "Simply the Best."

BEDINGFIELD: I don't think we ever had this issue.

HUNT: All right. Guys, thank you very much for being with me this morning.

FRUM: Thank you.

HUNT: Thanks to all of you for joining us. I'm Kasie Hunt. CNN NEWS CENTRAL starts right now.

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