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Trump Takes Putin's Advice; max Rodenbeck is Interviewed about the Ceasefire Proposal; U.S. and Europe Negotiating Security Guarantees; Russian Media Celebrates Putin Summit. Aired 6:30-7a ET

Aired August 19, 2025 - 06:30   ET

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AUDIE CORNISH, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everybody. I'm Audie Cornish. Thank you for joining me on CNN THIS MORNING.

It's half past the hour. And here's what's happening right now.

President Trump says he will arrange talks between Vladimir Putin and Volodymyr Zelenskyy after Russia's president expressed support for, quote, "direct negotiations." Zelenskyy said he is ready for any format of a meeting with Putin.

And the latest update from the National Hurricane Center has Hurricane Erin as a category three storm. It's weakened slightly with max winds of 115 miles per hour. Much of North Carolina's outer banks region is under a tropical storm watch. Many residents have started leaving the coastal areas.

"Newsmax" has agreed to pay $67 million to settle a defamation lawsuit filed by Dominion Voting Systems challenging the network's 2020 election lies. There is no indication "Newsmax" will offer an on-air apology. Fox News also settled with Dominion for $787 million to avoid a trial.

And while the president did not get a ceasefire or peace deal in the war in Ukraine, he did get some advice he appreciated from the Russian president.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You know, Vladimir Putin said something. One of the most interesting things. He said, your election was rigged because you have mail-in voting. He said mail-in voting, every election. He said, no country has mail-in voting. It's impossible to have mail-in voting and have honest elections.

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CORNISH: In a Truth Social post that followed, Trump declared he will end mail-in voting with an executive order. Trump also said he wants to get rid of voting machines, calling them, quote, "highly inaccurate, very expensive and seriously controversial."

The group chat is back.

Kind of an interesting moment on the heels of that "Newsmax" settlement.

And, Chuck, you have been chomping at the bit to get to this one. What is it about this, the Putin of it or the mail-in voting of it?

CHUCK ROCHA, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: I think it's that -- I think the right word is ironic is that he wants to use paper ballots because he don't want these machines, but mail-in ballots are paper ballots. You literally fill them out old school and you put them in the mail. They have a barcode on them. They have all your information on them. You can quickly check against the voter file to see if it's a real person. It's probably the most secure thing.

And the other point is, is that we've been doing mail-in ballots for our military overseas for a long time. So, that's been out there and tested forever.

And then third, you know, I think that there's a reason folks at home should know that every state does the ballots different. In every state, it's up to the states, to do it the way that they want to. And it's by design, because every state is different.

When I've run elections in Alaska and New Mexico and in the west, people live all over the place and mail-in ballot is sometimes the only way they can vote or they have to drive hours in to do it. So, it's set up for a reason like this. And it's safe.

CORNISH: Yes. It's been a long-time concern in the conservative right specifically around voting integrity and elections. And at the same time, you actually had more people voting by mail in 2024. It's sort of like principles versus convenience.

ASHLEY DAVIS, FORMER WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL UNDER PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: Exactly. Well, I also think that, first of all, paper ballots reminds me of the counting chads back in my Florida recount days. And so, it gives me the shakes a little bit.

ROCHA: Don't show our age now. Don't show our age.

DAVIS: It's true. But I think that, one, executive order doesn't matter because really this -- the voting is up to the states. Obviously, he can put a campaign in place that could maybe influence some of the red states. But remember, this is what happened during Covid is he was telling people not to do this. And then there wasn't -- I mean whether that's why he lost or not, doesn't matter. The point is, is if the Democrats are doing it, he should do it and -- because otherwise the Democrats are going to get way more votes.

CORNISH: All right, to be clear, he does do it.

DAVIS: Yes, he did. He and Melania. CORNISH: I want to play for you some -- back in 2020, when most people were because of the pandemic, Trump actually was asked about voting by mail. Here's what he had to say.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Sure, I could vote by mail for the --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How do you reconcile that?

TRUMP: Because I'm allowed to. Well, that's called out of state. You know why I voted? Because I happen to be in the White House, and I won't be able to go to Florida to vote.

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CORNISH: So, there are reasons --

JASMINE WRIGHT, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, "NOTUS": Yes.

CORNISH: That are valid for him.

WRIGHT: Yes. Yes. And I think his own advisers this time around were basically like, lay off all the attacks on mail-in voting because we want you to get the most amount of votes possible.

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And the way that you get the most amount of -- most amount of votes possible for both sides is that people have access to the ballot. And that buy-in makes mail in voting a very important part, for not just Democrats, but also Republicans too.

I also just -- I mean, just take a step back. I also find it fascinating that this was basically kind of replanted in his brain because, of course, like you said, this is not the first time that he's talked about this, or the second, or the third, but replanted in his brain after a conversation with Vladimir Putin. You can tell that he studied, Putin that is, ways to get -- to affect Trump's favor, to talk about his most important part, most, most, you know, you know, things that he likes to talk about. And I just think it's so ironic that we're taking Putin, who I'm pretty sure has never won an election in a legitimate way, we're taking voting advice for our country from Putin. I just find that -- I find that odd (ph).

CORNISH: Well, and we're now talking executive order.

WRIGHT: Yes.

CORNISH: So, obviously, there was some paper at the ready in a drawer to pull out.

WRIGHT: They do.

DAVIS: But it doesn't have any teeth. CORNISH: Oh, say more. Because it's just an order.

DAVIS: Well, no, it's really up to the states. I mean, you know this as well as I do. I mean, this is really up to the states. So, the federal --

ROCHA: And then the red states will be the ones -- sorry to interrupt. The red states will be the ones that will do this because they're the only ones who can and it will end up hurting Republicans. This is the crazy thing about it.

DAVIS: Yes.

ROCHA: Because Democratic states will not do this. They will say, let everybody vote. Let's get as many people in. So, the Republican Party, in a midterm election, where turnout is the game, will hurt their own turnout if red states do this.

CORNISH: We'll see.

Group chats, stick around. A lot more to discuss.

Right now we want to turn to some international news.

Hamas says it is now agreeing to a ceasefire proposal from mediators as Israel prepares to widen its assault into Gaza. Egyptian and Qatari negotiators are pushing to renew peace talks. A senior Hamas official tells CNN, the proposal includes the release of ten living hostages in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.

Now, Benjamin Netanyahu is facing pressure as he struggles to balance his top goal, the total destruction of Hamas with the demands of a growing protest movement which wants the return of the hostages to be the first priority. Netanyahu says the latest messages from Hamas show that they, too, are feeling pressure.

Joining me now to discuss, Max Rodenbeck. He is the Israel-Palestine project director at The International Crisis Group.

Good morning. Thank you for being with us, Max.

MAX RODENBECK, ISRAEL-PALESTINE PROJECT DIRECTOR, THE INTERNATIONAL CRISIS GROUP: Good morning, Audie.

CORNISH: So, we've been hearing, almost since this war started, that the stated goal is to destroy, bomb Hamas out of existence, not just have them dismantled as leadership. What's happened to -- what's happened in that process over time? Have they come close?

RODENBECK: Well, the answer is no, despite, you know, two years of war and, you know, of fighting in an area that's just the size of the New York City borough of Queens, and about the same population, by the way. Two years of war, and the Israelis have killed or injured one in every ten people in Gaza. They've squeezed down the area in which the 2 million residents of Gaza are living down to only about 10 percent of the whole space of Gaza. And Hamas, as a military force, has been, you know, decimated. I mean

it's really reduced as a military force. But the trouble is that Hamas was also a political party. And, you know, as a political party, it was also in charge of government for almost 20 years. So, the whole administration of Gaza is, you know, largely, you know, people who are part of Hamas.

So, yes, you can -- you can destroy the whole thing, but, I mean, at what cost to the residents of Hamas, at what price in Israeli soldiers and how much more time, you know? So, all of these things are precious.

CORNISH: Those are a lot of questions going into the potential for a widening of the war. I mean, are -- I don't know what's being said about, as you said, their -- Hamas' military abilities, but is there a sense that it is possible to, quote/unquote, root them out with this expansion?

RODENBECK: Well, as I said, but at what cost? Yes. And so this is the -- this is the big question. And so, you know, Israel has an incremental plan. It's put it in place now and it says it's going to go for the last push. But, at the same time, with this offer of a ceasefire, it's tempting to take a pause at least and, you know, reassess because, you know, in this last push, what Israel is doing is pushing into Gaza City, which has got about a million people in it. It's the most densely populated part of the whole Gaza Strip and very densely urban. And the part that's least to destroyed so far.

One million people living there. Israel intends to move them all out. But there's no place to move them to. And there's no equipment. There are no tents. There's no -- so, this plan doesn't seem to make much sense, actually.

But, at the same time, the pressure is really high on Hamas. There's bombing every day. You know, people are on the edge of starvation. The pressure is coming from all of Hamas' kind of, you know, interlocutors, mediators.

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So, there's a huge pressure on -- on Hamas. And this is one reason why we have this new kind of acceptance of a ceasefire in terms of a ceasefire from -- from Hamas.

CORNISH: That's Max Rodenbeck. He's an Israel-Palestine project director at The International Crisis Group.

Thank you for your time.

RODENBECK: Thank you.

CORNISH: Straight ahead on CNN THIS MORNING, pledging to defend Ukraine. Zelenskyy leaves D.C. with President Trump's security guarantees. Is it enough?

Plus, the ketamine queen ready to take a plea for her role in the death of Matthew Perry.

And we want to know what's in your group chat this morning. Send it to us now on X. We're going to be talking about ours after this.

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CORNISH: It's 44 minutes past the hour. Here is your morning roundup.

The Department of Justice says it will begin handing over files related to Jeffrey Epstein by Friday. The House Oversight Committee originally set the deadline for today. Former Attorney General Bill Barr testified Monday if President Trump knew anything about a potential client list.

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REP. JAMES COMER (R-KY): He had never communicated with President Trump on a potential Epstein list or anything else. He was -- and he had never seen anything that would implicate President Trump.

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CORNISH: Barr was the first of ten high profile witnesses subpoenaed.

The woman known as the ketamine queen has agreed to plead guilty in the overdose death of actor Matthew Perry. Federal prosecutors say she supplied the fatal dose in 2023. She now faces up to 45 years in prison.

For the first time, Miss Palestine will compete at this year's Miss Universe pageant.

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NADEEN AYOUB, MISS PALESTINE 2022, COMPETING IN MISS UNIVERSE 2025: I'll be sharing stories that rarely make the news. Stories of strength, creativity and hope.

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CORNISH: Now, the decision to include a Palestinian entry comes amid growing criticism of Israel's war in Gaza. The 74th Miss Universe final will be held in November.

And when it comes to negotiating an end to the war in Ukraine, all sides seem to be in agreement, security guarantees for Kyiv are critical.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Yes, I'm optimistic that collectively we can reach an agreement that would deter any future aggression against Ukraine. KEIR STARMER, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: I think, with the right approach this afternoon, make real progress, particularly on the security guarantees.

VOLODYMYR ZELENSKY, UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT: This is very important that United States gives such strong signal and is ready for security guarantees.

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CORNISH: And just to show how far these security guarantees need to go, overnight, the largest aerial assault on Ukraine by Moscow since July. Over 270 drones and ten missiles. British Prime Minister Keir Starmer says negotiations on these guarantees for Ukraine are continuing today.

And European leaders are eager to learn exactly what kind of resources President Trump is willing to offer.

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EMMANUEL MACRON, FRENCH PRESIDENT: When we speak about security guarantees, we speak about the whole security of the European continent. And this is why we are all united here with Ukraine on this -- on this matter.

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CORNISH: All right, I want to bring in CNN military analyst, Colonel Cedric Leighton.

Good morning. Thank you for being here.

COL. CEDRIC LEIGHTON (RET.), CNN MILITARY ANALYST: It's my pleasure, Audie. Good morning.

CORNISH: So, I hear a lot of people asking for security guarantees. I don't hear a lot of people explaining what that actually means, which is why you are here. What questions did you hear from that table?

LEIGHTON: So, one of the key things is, it may mean different things to different people. And this is where things get -- will get interesting because, for President Zelenskyy of Ukraine, it's going to be, I need people who are going to help me maintain something like perhaps a demilitarized zone between the Russian troops and Ukrainian troops.

CORNISH: So, protect this border.

LEIGHTON: Protect the border. Protect this line of troops. And that border may not be the internationally recognized border. We may be finding ourselves in a period where there is a de facto control by the Russians of certain parts of Ukraine, but an internationally recognized border that is very different, ala (ph) the 1991 borders. So, that could be one thing. You know, for the United States, it would be something where you have a -- an element, perhaps, of U.S. troops, potentially in Ukraine. There may be more of a remote role, like an intelligence support role, logistics support role, things like that, that could definitely be played out. But the -- the thing is, that a lot of these countries look to the visual, in other words boots on the ground, as being part of that security guarantee. And that's why, you know, the presence part of it is going to be a very important thing, especially for the Europeans, and certainly for the Ukrainians.

CORNISH: One of the things Putin does not want is for Ukraine to be part of NATO, in part because to act against NATO draws all the NATO countries into war under that Article V provision.

LEIGHTON: Right.

CORNISH: I want to play for you something, I think it's from Steve Bannon, part of that kind of like MAGA world and their reaction to this.

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STEVE BANNON, FORMER TRUMP ADVISER: I'm just lost how a game -- how us -- how the United States offering an Article V commitment for -- for a security guarantee to Ukraine is a win for the United States.

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CORNISH: I hear somewhat -- yes, do you hear the concern he has? It's not Article V, but it -- is it going to be like Article V?

LEIGHTON: Yes, so this gets interesting because Italian Prime Minister Giorgio Meloni, she very specifically talked about it and basically said this was an Italian idea yesterday. And what that could look like is there are going to be either bilateral or multilateral security guarantees for Ukraine, but they're not within the -- or under the rubric of NATO.

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So, under NATO, as you mentioned in the run up to this, you know, it is a, you know, very clear obligation on the part of NATO members to assist. Not necessarily with troops, but to assist an attacked member of NATO. In the case of Ukraine, those security guarantees, whether they're bilateral or multilateral, are going to require a similar type of setup. But that setup is going to require a commitment that the Russians would see as credible. That's going to be the key thing because there have been other commitments, you know, you go back to 1994, you go back to other commitments that were made for the security of Ukraine, and they were not fulfilled in the same way that Ukraine would need them.

CORNISH: Yes. That leads to the next question. Is Putin going to accept this concept of security guarantees? Is it possibly appealing to him because it's something that there's got some wiggle room there and no one really knows what they're talking about? LEIGHTON: Well, that's part of the issue that he could turn around and

say this -- OK, I'll -- I'll see if I can drive a truck through this because there -- the guarantees are not ironclad and they mean -- may mean different things to different people. And, you know, within Europe, you've got different countries that have either slightly or sometimes greatly varying views as to what these guarantees actually mean. Certainly, a Hungary, for example, would not hop to Ukraine's aid, whereas a Great Britain probably would. A Poland certainly would. And that's -- there -- there's a lot of in between there.

So, depending on the type of situation that you have, Putin may very well say, I might be able to accept something like this, but I won't be able to accept something that -- where it's a part of NATO. And when you look at what the Russian foreign ministry has said, they will not accept anything that basically has the NATO moniker associated with it.

So, if it can do the same thing as NATO but isn't called NATO, perhaps that could be acceptable. But it really remains to be seen how the Russians respond to this.

CORNISH: What will you be listening from the White House in the coming days, either around the boots on the ground concept or the security guarantees? What, to you, would be a signal as a person with a military background?

LEIGHTON: So, what I would see -- see is, you know, if the president or any of his staff -- senior staff members say something that says we are going to make a major commitment to Ukraine, that -- and they don't -- never rule out anything like, if they don't rule out boots on the ground, then that means that's a possibility. It doesn't mean it's going to happen, but it's certainly a possibility that's being seriously considered. And I think that's the case right now.

How long it stays the case, though, is going to be very interesting. And it's going to really, I think, make it a kind of friendly debate because, you know, as we saw with Steve Bannon, there certainly are concerns on the right as to whether or not to -- to do this. And they don't see a benefit for it. The benefit, though, would be that a secure Ukraine would lead to, in the European's mind a secure Europe. And a secure Europe would lead to a secure United States. That would be the counterargument for that.

CORNISH: Yes, but we're going to hear that play out more and more over the coming days.

Colonel Leighton, thank you so much. Appreciate your time.

LEIGHTON: You bet, Audie. You bet.

CORNISH: So, as Ukraine works to get security guarantees in a bid to end the war, Russian state media is practically gleeful over the way events have unfolded. Since last Friday's summit between Trump and Putin, Russian media has been buzzing with analysis and declarations of victory. One Russian observer commented, "the sound of breaking ice floes can be heard." And another paper said Ukraine was facing new pressure at the White House, adding, quote, "either disgrace or disgrace, Zelenskyy has no choice. Every decision is suicide."

So, for more about how this is all playing out in Russia, I want to bring in CNN correspondent Clare Sebastian in London.

Clare, thank you so much for speaking with us. Tell me a little bit about what more you're seeing.

CLARE SEBASTIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, good morning, Audie.

I've been having a look through the papers and some of the TV coverage this morning. A couple of key themes are emerging out of this White House meeting that we saw on Monday. Among them, I think a heavy emphasis we're seeing on the idea that Trump essentially broke off talks with the Europeans to then go and call Putin. That's a way to sort of emphasize the importance of Russia in all of this. Then we're seeing an effort, I think, to emphasize divisions in Europe. That is something that Russia traditionally does do to try to undermine this transatlantic alliance.

And I want to show you a headline that really does both of those things. This is from the Russian tabloid "Komsomolskaya Pravda." This morning's headline states "Zelenskyy's dead-end" is the quote, "Trump clashed harshly with Metz," that's the German chancellor, of course, "at the White House and then called Putin."

So, look, I think anyone who's watched the exchange between Trump and Metz over the issue of a ceasefire first wouldn't necessarily call it clashed harshly. But certainly you see the point there with that Russian headline.

And then we saw what we've seen in the lead up to Alaska and afterwards, this sort of stepped up effort to undermine and insult Zelenskyy. Lots of references to him as illegitimate or the new fashionable term in the Russian media "expired" is how they describe Zelenskyy.

So, clearly Russia is still emboldened by Alaska. It's using the events of Monday to try to undermine Ukraine's allies.

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And, you know, it was a notable clip that I saw from one of the chief Russian propagandist, Vladimir Solovyov, he's the host of one of the really influential evening talk shows, who pointed out that at this point Russia is not under any kind of ultimatum. Trump has not said that sanctions are imminent. He says he's waiting.

So, I think this is an emboldened Russia. And what you really get out of watching the Russian media is just how opposed their view of this war is compared to what we see from Ukraine and its allies.

Audie.

CORNISH: That's CNN correspondent Clare Sebastian.

Clare, thank you. All right, I'm bringing you guys something fun for a second, because

the influence of TikTok and social media has Cambridge adding 6,000 new words to its online dictionary. We're going to focus on some of them.

And the first is "tradwife." That's a married woman who conforms to traditional gender roles, focusing on home by cooking, cleaning, raising the kids. The other "broligarchy," which is a combination of bro and oligarchy, describes men in technology who are extremely rich and powerful and seeking political influence. There's a couple others that I think are relevant. Delulu is one.

DAVIS: Oh, they added (ph) delulu.

CORNISH: Oh, yes. And Skibidi is there, of course. But I'm not going to -- I'm not going to get into it because that's how you end up on a kid's TikTok, making fun of (INAUDIBLE).

DAVIS: Oh, OK. OK.

CORNISH: But I like that there's so many political ones, like tradwives online. The conservative movement around traditional womanhood, and what that can look like.

WRIGHT: Sure.

CORNISH: You said -- you've seen it. You're in it.

WRIGHT: Oh, I mean, I love the tradwife lore. But the best part of it is that the tradwife that are like very popular make a ton of money by putting out tradwife videos and --

CORNISH: By working.

WRIGHT: Yes, by working. Like, they are effectively working and in some ways carrying their household.

ROCHA: Look, I'm all about --

WRIGHT: So, it's not very tradwife.

DAVIS: I got kicked out of that category because I can't cook (ph).

CORNISH: You're not a tradwife?

DAVIS: I can't cook or clean.

ROCHA: Look, I -- these kids have a whole new --

CORNISH: Ashley, I'm not surprised somehow.

ROCHA: This is a shocker (ph) (INAUDIBLE).

CORNISH: Because Ashley has riz (ph), folks, which I'm sure is one of the words as well.

ROCHA: No, it's not (ph).

I've -- these kids all -- are getting old too quick, too soon. I spent the weekend with my eight-year-old twins. We went fishing together. And if these eight-year-olds call me bruh one more time, I'm like, I am not bruh, I am your grandfather.

CORNISH: Oh, yes, yes, yes.

WRIGHT: I would just say, I bet you those eight-year-olds know what a tradwife is.

CORNISH: That would be scary.

ROCHA: Oh, my goodness.

CORNISH: So, there -- they're called you bruh.

ROCHA: Bruh.

CORNISH: OK.

ROCHA: Did you see this, bruh, about -- bruh? I'm abuelo.

DAVIS: It's not bro, it's bruh.

ROCHA: Bruh, with a u-h.

CORNISH: And you --

WRIGHT: Well, that's kind of a return, right?

CORNISH: I think -- it is -- that's fair.

WRIGHT: That's like a return

CORNISH: Also, red flags and green flags is a thing, formally, about increasing --

WRIGHT: And necessary.

CORNISH: It's about expressing someone's desirability or undesirability in the world of dating.

DAVIS: Oh. Oh.

CORNISH: Yes.

DAVIS: So, you're either, let's -- like green if you're good.

CORNISH: You're a red flag or a green flag.

WRIGHT: Well, no, there are certain things that you can do that are red flags and green flags.

CORNISH: Oh, say more. WRIGHT: Yes, it's like, it's not just a certain person. Like, yes,

that person could be a red flag, but it's like, oh, you told me that you got to see if we can hang out? Red flag.

CORNISH: OK.

DAVIS: You're up to date on all this.

ROCHA: (INAUDIBLE).

CORNISH: Well, we have been talking about things that are very online, very snackable, which is online content. You can read and watch on small bursts, which is this, the group chat.

Jasmine, let me start with you.

WRIGHT: Oh, mine is actually snackable. It's --

CORNISH: Oh, wait, what's the words?

WRIGHT: OK. It was a Houston, Texas, video of those influencers in a restaurant doing like their influencer. They, like, you know, cheers their little burgers, this couple. And then immediately a car just crashes into the restaurant. I thought it was -- first of all --

CORNISH: I'm sorry, this story took a turn.

WRIGHT: It's insane.

CORNISH: OK.

WRIGHT: They're not --

CORNISH: Are they OK?

WRIGHT: I picked it because they're OK.

CORNISH: OK.

WRIGHT: They weren't hurt. Maybe they have some trauma. But I just think it's, like, such an interesting look at, you can be living in this, like, virtual world that we know now all exist in, and then --

ROCHA: Here comes reality.

CORNISH: Yes.

WRIGHT: Immediately reality comes in.

CORNISH: I have a feeling that will be age gated content in the future.

WRIGHT: Yes.

CORNISH: Chuck. ROCHA: Two group chats going on. I got a family group chat that's all

about the twin boys vacation this weekend. Mama's pictures. All that stuff. And then --

CORNISH: Where they're just like, bruh.

ROCHA: Bruh. Bruh.

And then the second is the neighborhood group chat. In D.C. we're still living in occupied D.C. Folks in my neighborhood are, like, well, we want to do something about the crime, but we don't want the military in our streets. Is there a happy medium where we could have folks helping us and not just be protecting the lululemon and folks picking up DoorDash drivers?

CORNISH: OK.

DAVIS: OK, that is so last week, by the way.

ROCHA: Oh, I just got back.

DAVIS: But I'm watching Hurricane Erin because Chucky here told me it was going to hit where I'm supposed to go away next week and I'm devastated. I need a break so bad and you ruined it.

ROCHA: I watch the news and I watch the weather. A sign that you're getting old is you get up and you get on the weather to find out what's the weather going to be like. And it's going to your island.

WRIGHT: You get on the weather.

CORNISH: You get on the weather.

WRIGHT: You get on the weather.

CORNISH: Bruh.

WRIGHT: That's the (INAUDIBLE) --

ROCHA: Bruh. Weather applications on the phone. I'm just saying, look, this is happening.

CORNISH: I also love, as I was reading this story, the Australian prime minister dropped the phrase "they are delulu with no solulu (ph)" in a speech to parliament.

WRIGHT: Yes.

CORNISH: So, I don't know.

WRIGHT: That works (INAUDIBLE) right now.

CORNISH: This is where the news is heading, folks.

I want to thank you all for waking up with us. Covered a lot of ground. There's more news next on "CNN NEWS CENTRAL," which starts right now.

ROCHA: Bruh.

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