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Stephen Colbert Takes Final Bow; Canceled War Powers Vote; Democrat Leaked Autopsy Report; Colbet Signs off with "Peanuts" Music. Aired 6:30-7a ET
Aired May 22, 2026 - 06:30 ET
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ASHLEY GOLD, SENIOR TECH POLICY REPORTER, "AXIOS": There's a lot of conservative pushback to the acceleration of A.I.
I reported just this week on a group of 60 major, very MAGA types who are urging President Trump to, you know, make really strict regulation for A.I. That includes Steve Bannon and other conservative leaders. So, it's not just a Democratic thing.
AUDIE CORNISH, CNN ANCHOR: Yes, I remember an A.I. provision got pulled from the big, beautiful bill because Marjorie Taylor Greene, of all people, was like, get this out of here.
GOLD: Absolutely. Yes, they -- certain Republicans, a lot, actually, want states to be able to pass their own A.I. laws. And that is something that Trump and Sachs (ph) and others in the White House have really wanted to shut down.
CORNISH: Well, I hope you can come back because there's a lot going on. It's like a handful of personalities ruling an industry. And it's actually pretty fascinating, who is on the side of regulation and who is not.
So, Ashley, I hope you can come back. Thank you so much.
GOLD: Absolutely.
CORNISH: And straight ahead on CNN THIS MORNING, we're going to talk about the autopsy of the autopsy report. How did Kamala Harris lose the 2024 election? And what took so long for Democrats to figure it out?
Plus.
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STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT": This show, I want you to know and you to know, has been a joy for us to do for you. In fact, we call this show the joy machine.
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CORNISH: The end of an era. Colbert leaves the desk. Will late night comedy ever be the same?
And later, on this Memorial Day weekend, we're going to honor the fallen at Arlington National Cemetery.
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CORNISH: Good morning, everybody. I'm Audie Cornish. I want to thank you for joining me on CNN THIS MORNING.
It's half past the hour. And here's what's happening right now.
British police asking for the public's help in their investigation of former Prince Andrew. Earlier today, the local police leading the investigation announcing they were examining, quote, "a number of aspects" of alleged misconduct. The former British royal was arrested in February on suspicion of misconduct in office after more emails between him and Jeffrey Epstein became public.
And gas prices now above $4 in all 50 states, just in time for Memorial Day weekend. AAA is saying that it's the first time that's happened in almost four years. On the west coast, it's more like $5 or $6, and it's got some people rethinking their summer plans.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The gas prices are, well, very high.
It's so expensive right now.
Last summer I probably go almost five days a week. I would stay on the water. Now it's probably just two or three days a week.
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CORNISH: Now, even with the high gas prices, AAA expects 39 million people to hit the roads this weekend.
And ahead of Memorial Day. U.S. soldiers placed 250,000 American flags at the Arlington National Cemetery. Each flag is placed on a headstone to honor fallen soldiers. They also placed flags at the tomb of the unknown soldier.
And I want to talk about this. The end of an era on late night.
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STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT": If you're -- if you're just tuning in to "The Late Show," you missed a lot.
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CORNISH: So, after more than a decade, Stephen Colbert taking his final bow on "The Late Show" on CBS last night. He signed off with Paul McCartney as his final guest after thanking his staff and the past guests and fans who supported the show for the last 11 years.
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STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT": On night one of "The Colbert Report" back in the day, I said, anyone can read the news to you. I promise to feel the news at you. And I realized pretty soon, in this job, that our job over here was different. We were here to feel the news with you. And I don't know about you, but I sure have felt it.
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CORNISH: OK, joining us in the group chat, my friend, Ari Shapiro, co- host on the new show "Engagement Party," our podcast, which debuts today.
Welcome.
ARI SHAPIRO, CO-HOST, "ENGAGEMENT PARTY" PODCAST: Hi, Audie. It's so nice to be here.
CORNISH: Welcome to the chat.
SHAPIRO: It's great to be with you all.
CORNISH: This feels like the perfect topic because like in "Engagement Party" we're talking about what everyone is talking about.
SHAPIRO: Yes.
CORNISH: And late night shows are sort of last water cooler adjacent moments.
SHAPIRO: Yes. Yes.
CORNISH: Was this one?
SHAPIRO: Oh, the show itself was so moving. There was this little snow globe moment at the end that I think actually brought a lot of people to tears.
Obviously, there are a lot of tributes right now to Stephen Colbert as a media force, as a comedian. I think, in this moment, it's also nice to remember who he is as a person, because in this Hollywood world, in this late night world where there are a lot of big and toxic personalities, the people who work with him, who I talked to when I interviewed Colbert a couple years ago, revere him. He has this reputation as somebody who loves his family, fishing, going back to his hometown of Charleston whenever he can. Like this gentleman of a mold that you don't see that much anymore.
CORNISH: Yes. And it was a big, old variety show. At the end, Elvis Costello, Jon Batiste.
SHAPIRO: Paul McCartney.
CORNISH: And having Paul McCartney there was a nod to the history of the Sullivan Theater.
I just want to play for you guys before you come in what some of the fans were saying who were standing outside the theater about this kind of pivotal moment.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're just here to see the last show. It's like, end of an era.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think other people also recognize that this is not just a finale of a TV show, but it's kind of a pivotal moment politically as well.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Like the industry is shifting.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And so, I think that has to be accounted for. But I do think it feels unceremonious in nature.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
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CORNISH: Now, he did not talk about how and why his show was ending. We all know that certainly the Trump White House had something to do with it. And "The New York Times," in their opinion pages, saying, "CBS cancels itself, not just Colbert. The biggest loss is to core American values, such as the right to speak freely, even in brutally mocking terms, about those in power."
LULU GARCIA-NAVARRO, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: I think Stephen Colbert can now actually apply to the anti-weaponization fund. I mean, isn't this now where we're at with this fund?
CORNISH: (INAUDIBLE) spoke very -- yes.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Yes. Yes. So, he can --
CORNISH: Line them up.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Line them up. He can say he was politically persecuted for free speech. And, you know, and he can maybe get a big payout.
I think this is the end of an era. There is the cultural side of this, which you guys can speak to, I think, better than I can.
The political side of this is, this is a really bad look for the parent company, Paramount and CBS, generally. This has now entered the lure (ph) of popular culture, that this was really politically motivated, that they did this in, you know, because they wanted to curry favor with the Trump administration. They've denied that, of course. But the way people understand it is in that context, which I think moving forward is not good for them.
CORNISH: Yes. There's some irony that Colbert came to the mainstream consciousness at that kind of roast of President Bush at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
SHAPIRO: 2006, I believe.
CORNISH: Like its biting satire to that person's face, and went on to have a long career. And, you know, four months into the Trump administration.
ROB BLUEY, PRESIDENT AND EXECUTIVE EDITOR, "THE DAILY SIGNAL": Yes, I think that, as somebody who grew up watching Jay Leno and David Letterman, certainly it is the end of an era. It's the changing viewer consumption habits, I think, as well. It's not that late night can't be successful. Greg Gutfeld, I think in April, had the fourth most popular show on cable news.
So, there is a market for that, Audie, but I just don't think Stephen Colbert necessarily resonated when it was so, so cutting against President Trump night after night. And that just alienated a huge segment of the American people. And so it's something that you --
GARCIA-NAVARRO: But Greg Gutfeld is literally that on the other side.
ELLIOT WILLIAMS, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Yes.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: So that argument, with respect, doesn't, I think, hold.
WILLIAMS: You know, I -- look, it's perfectly fine for people not to like Stephen Colbert or, quite frankly, for the industry to shift. Anybody who clicks on a television knows that the world is changing.
The toxic thing that's happening here is really the weaponization of the FCC and it not being independent in the way that it has been for a long time. That is quite dangerous when you look at - and again, this isn't about the substance of Stephen Colbert. This is about, you know, when the White House and the head of the FCC can, in effect, collude to affect what happens on broadcast television in a manner that is, frankly, discriminatory. In many ways, that's very dangerous. And that's the road we're going down. It's not about (INAUDIBLE).
CORNISH: Well, this is the kind of topic I often want to do on the show, but it's like not quite news.
SHAPIRO: Right.
CORNISH: A lot of pop culture. It intersects with so many things. Which is, I think, why we wanted to do a show together.
SHAPIRO: Right.
So, our show, "Engagement Party," is going to dig into these kinds of things that everybody is talking about. And where we go from the conversation about politics and about Colbert might be to, where does the DNA of this show exist today?
CORNISH: Yes.
SHAPIRO: And I'm thinking about, there was a "Vanity Fair" article that was like the new late night. And the people featured in that article were like Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, hosts of "Las Culturistas," or Julian Shapiro-Barnum, no relation, who is now launching a YouTube late night show. So, even though the network TV model of "The Late Show," and programs like it may be shriveling, we see those seeds spreading to a lot of interesting places.
CORNISH: Yes. And you guys can check out "Engagement Party." We actually launched today. The first episode is dropping on the CNN app. Here's a preview where we get into it about the HBO show "Euphoria."
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CORNISH: So, the reason why I'm bringing it to "Engagement Party," to a person who is so clearly hostile to the show.
SHAPIRO: Ah --
CORNISH: Who is hostile to the show.
SHAPIRO: OK, finish that thought and then I'll tell you how I feel.
CORNISH: Is because I'm sure you're wondering why everyone's talking about it.
SHAPIRO: Yes.
CORNISH: Like, why does a fan base that loves a thing hate-watch it. How did we get here?
SHAPIRO: And I'll tell you why I want to talk about it, because I watched season one and I thought, this is incredibly acted. It's very well made. It is -- I don't need to spend time with people overdosing and being victimized or abused when the real world is full of a lot of darkness. So, I've tuned out.
CORNISH: OK, is this your news person talking or is this because you had a happy childhood?
SHAPIRO: I felt the same way about "The Handmaid's Tale."
CORNISH: Fair.
SHAPIRO: I was like, well made show about topics I don't need to spend my free time engaging with. So, I tuned out after season one. And then it feels like the rest of the world piled on. So, I'm eager to find out what I'm missing. And I've gone back and watched a lot of season two and season three. And my take on the show has shifted from, these are dark topics I don't really want to spend time with, to, this is deeply (EXPLETIVE DELETED) up.
(END VIDEO CLIP) CORNISH: OK, you know, we -- you take the tie off and it's completely out of control.
WILLIAMS: Wow.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Ari for the win.
SHAPIRO: We're not on public radio anymore, friend.
CORNISH: Thank you for being here.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Ari, for the win. Both sides. Both sides.
CORNISH: And please check it out. The show drops today.
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Stay with us. We have more news coming up.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Gas prices are through the roof. People can't afford -- people can't afford their groceries. Is that why you're pulling it? You guys don't have the guts or the balls to vote on this.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The House will be -- the House will be in order.
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CORNISH: OK, you've got some fist pumping Democrats there upset about the Republican-led Congress leaving early for Memorial Day.
What happened was the House was scheduled to vote last night on a war powers resolution. Then Republican leaders scrambled to cancel the vote at the last moment, potentially pushing off the vote until next month.
The group -- oh, here we go.
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REP. RO KHANNA (D-CA): The Trump coalition has cracked. I mean, it was unprecedented today. They first delayed the vote for 45 minutes. We were just sitting in the chamber waiting for the vote. And the reason they delayed it is they didn't have the votes.
REP. JOHNNY OLSZEWSKI (D-MD): Republicans don't have the votes to win the vote. And so, they decided to take their bags and run home instead.
REP. GREGORY MEEKS (D-NY): They're playing a political game. They're cheating and have delayed the vote until we get back.
[06:50:05] REP. BECCA BALINT (D-VT): They're just a bunch of chicken (EXPLETIVE DELETED) because they knew they didn't have the votes.
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CORNISH: OK, group chat is back.
Now I have to say, Mike Johnson doesn't put things on the floor unless he has the votes, right? And this war powers resolution, I think, would have pulled troops until there was congressional authorization.
So, I kind of thought that was a slam dunk for Republicans, right? Like, you want to vote for this war powers resolution. Why is the White House in this position now that they have to go home rather than face the music on not having support?
BLUEY: Well, Audie, I believe that every president, Republican or Democrat, has always said that the War Powers Act is unconstitutional. They think that they have -- should have the authority.
Now, in this particular case, I think that it's, we need to remember, there's no troops on the ground in Iran.
CORNISH: Yes.
BLUEY: So, like, let's just state that fact clearly.
CORNISH: So then why not vote on it?
BLUEY: Because, obviously, they didn't want to have a vote that would embarrass the president. I mean, you have the Republicans in control of Congress.
CORNISH: OK, that's what I'm trying to get at in here. Why is the president in this scenario?
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Well, the president is in this scenario because he keeps on messing up his relationship with Congress. He seems to think that he is sort of the king of the Republican Party. And he doesn't realize we're you know, we're coming up to the midterm elections. He keeps on pretending that this thing isn't like barreling towards him. And --
CORNISH: Well, based on the redistricting fight, I don't think so. I think he's been very aware.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Well, I mean, no, he's very aware, but he keeps on undercutting the actions that he's taken by doing things that are putting his own Republican sort of legislators in terrible positions where --
BLUEY: There's no margin, right? They're -- it's so thin.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: You know, it's a very small, thin margin. So, why are you constantly having to have them defend things that are going to put them in trouble with, you know, the voters in their district? Because let's not forget, we still are a democracy.
CORNISH: OK. Well, speaking of which, this is tied to another story that I've been wanting to get at, which is the autopsies of the autopsy, because Democrats are trying to figure out, how do we take advantage of this. Every time the White House makes a mistake, how politically can we take advantage of this? Can we get our candidates forward? And they're looking to 2024 for lessons, and they're vastly confused --
WILLIAMS: Right.
CORNISH: And upset about the conclusions that are being drawn.
Can you talk about this?
WILLIAMS: Sure.
CORNISH: This was a report first made public by CNN that got a copy of this original report from the DNC that explained, to their mind, that "Harris lagged in rural areas nationally."
WILLIAMS: Right.
CORNISH: "Which proved to be insurmountable in swing states." They said that, "Harris wrote off rural America, assuming urban/suburban margins would compensate."
I mean, this may not be wrong.
WILLIAMS: Yes.
CORNISH: So, why are people so upset?
WILLIAMS: Well, because the only people who had a worse week, I think, than Donald Trump this week were the Democratic National Committee based on this report.
CORNISH: Specifically.
WILLIAMS: It was a mess. It was poor management. It was sloppy. And just to put a finer point on it, they created an autopsy of the 2024 campaign. Number one, did not interview Joe Biden. Number two, did not interview Kamala Harris. Number three, did not interview Tim Walz. And, number four, did not use the words "Israel" or "Gaza" in them. Of all of these things --
CORNISH: Yes. Or students. Or -- yes.
WILLIAMS: Or elderly. Or age. I'm talking about the president.
CORNISH: Yes.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.
WILLIAMS: Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb. Lulu's right. CORNISH: Rob's like, don't mind if I do.
BULEY: It's a fact. I'm sorry.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: I mean, I'll say, I'm either -- I mean --
CORNISH: Well, listen, just ask Mitt Romeny. An autopsy can get shoved in a report and never seen again in a drawer.
WILLIAMS: Yes.
CORNISH: And no one cares about it. But this one is really, I think, hits at the point that people think Democrats, the point sailing over their heads, that the institutional Democrats are not acknowledging the real fissures. And am I misreading that?
GARCIA-NAVARRO: No. I think that that's exactly right. I mean, this is, I think, whenever I talk to Democrats and insurgent Democratic politicians, you know I had an interview --
CORNISH: Of which there are many.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Of which there are many. I had an interview with Graham Plattner, who is running for Senate in Maine for the Democrats. And what they say over and over again is, why are institutional Democrats so stupid? And every normie Democrat has a better -- could give a better autopsy than what was written there. Like, go to Reddit --
WILLIAMS: Yes.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: And you will have a better autopsy than what the -- what was written there. And so, I think it is just baffling to many people in this moment of real institutional skepticism of the parties, right?
CORNISH: Right.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: And that is true of Republicans.
CORNISH: Yes.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: And that is true of Democrats. You're just seeing voters saying, off with all their heads. And then this comes out and you're like, yes, actually, they might have a point.
CORNISH: I like you saying "normie" and "stupid." I feel like that is where the discourse is right now.
I have a coda, actually, to the Colbert story, and I want to bring it up with Elliot because it's time to "Lawyer Up."
WILLIAMS: Let's do this.
CORNISH: So, as he was signing off --
WILLIAMS: Yes.
CORNISH: He was talking about ruffling some feathers on the way out. And then, like, this moment came up.
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STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT": Meanwhile, the owner of the music of "A Charlie Brown Christmas" and other "Peanuts" television specials has filed four lawsuits yesterday against those illegally using the famous song "Linus and Lucy."
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CORNISH: And then they started to play the music, which we are not playing so we don't get sued.
WILLIAMS: But can I sing, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom. I'm not -- you're not playing it. I'm just singing it.
CORNISH: One shot on Elliot with, man sings "Peanuts" underneath. What's going on? Are they very litigious?
WILLIAMS: They are not very litigious. The interesting thing is that "Peanuts" and the entity that is "Peanuts" and the entity that owns the music are two different things. And what happens is that people use the "Peanuts" name and likeness, but then play the music. So, for instance, they've sued a video game company, an auction house and others, including the federal government, over the use of the music.
Now, the video game companies, the interesting one, because they, you know, they use Snoopy in this video game. But instead of licensing the music, replicated it in video game sound, right?
CORNISH: OH, yes, which I can imagine.
WILLIAMS: And that's -- so, they have a right -- even though we think of these things as intimately associated with the "Charlie Brown" name and brand, it's still the Vince Guaraldi trio. It's still an entity that owns the rights to its music. And you can't just use it, even if I, on this show, I can sing it and you know what it is, right?
CORNISH: I know. Well, as Colbert would say, meanwhile, at that moment that they played the music, the band plays the music, and the crowd responds with cheers.
WILLIAMS: Yes.
CORNISH: And this is what Colbert said on the way out, which brings me to the other legal question about this.
WILLIAMS: Sure.
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STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT": Oh, no, I hope this doesn't cost CBS any money.
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WILLIAMS: It's not going to cost CBS any money. Only because, just think about, they play covers of songs all the time on the program. The issue is that when you are claiming to show the support of Charles Schulz and "Peanuts" but playing these songs as if you own them.
CORNISH: Yes.
WILLIAMS: And so, what's happening is people put videos on social media purporting to be, you know, the proper use of the "Peanuts" music, and it's just not the same thing. You have to pay music rights holders for what they owe when you license their music and it's just not happening here.
CORNISH: OK, that's not going to happen. Well, it was a funny dig. I mean, he got a big laugh in the moment.
WILLIAMS: Pretty good.
CORNISH: I want to talk about what else is in your group chat. Obviously, mine is Colbert, because I've shoved it into this show twice. But what about you, Rob?
BLUEY: Yes, well, big controversy between the mayor of New York City and the governor of New Jersey.
CORNISH: What a surprise. Evergreen tweet. Yes.
BLUEY: Over the World Cup. So, Zohran Mamdani struck a deal to have $50 tickets, which New York City residents and New York residents only can apply for starting on Monday. Well, that didn't sit too well with New Jersey. Obviously, they're sharing the stadium where the games are being played.
CORNISH: Yes.
BLUEY: So, I don't know --
CORNISH: But he's the mayor of New York City.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: But have you seen how much these tickets are?
BLUEY: They are hundreds of dollars.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Oh, my gosh. I mean this is crazy.
BLUEY: For nosebleed seats nonetheless.
CORNISH: He's a sports guy. He's a sports guy. And he's willing to pay for his own seats.
BLUEY: Yes, he did.
CORNISH: I think that there was images of him at a basketball game, and he was in the nosebleed.
WILLIAMS: Hey, you know, he's a man of the people, you know.
CORNISH: Yes, there you go.
WILLIAMS: It's like there's no better way to endear oneself to ones constituents than by paying $17 for a beer at Madison Square Garden. So, good for him.
CORNISH: OK. So, you tell me what's in your group chat.
WILLIAMS: What's in my group chat? Men, grooms, are starting to get in on the game of weddings. There was a really interesting "Wall Street Journal" piece on --
CORNISH: Like participating or participating in the planning?
WILLIAMS: Consenting to it. No. No. But -- no, no, but not just -- not just in the planning. You're talking about hiring assistants for thousands of dollars, 52-page spreadsheets. And they talk about the idea that some of it is cultural shifts, that the idea that, you know, men are parts of weddings too.
CORNISH: Yes. Is this like when men started turning all the baby diaper bags into, like, cargo thing.
WILLIAMS: Into a --
CORNISH: Like they were army and green and gray.
WILLIAMS: Yes, I mean --
CORNISH: So, the dudes could --
WILLIAMS: And so -- and so --
CORNISH: Change their babies.
WILLIAMS: Absolutely. So, it's -- you know, it's a piece in "The Wall Street Journal," but it's all about how people are seeing the act of getting married and just where there's always a buck to be made. You can now hire a wedding consultant as a groom not just -- not just the bride. So --
CORNISH: Yes. Do you think it's also because marriage is now an institution for upper class people with money?
WILLIAMS: Yes.
CORNISH: They're marrying each other. And so they are ready to spend. Those men are like, get me an assistant.
WILLIAMS: Maybe (ph).
GARCIA-NAVARRO: But I also think it's like the looksmaxxing (ph) thing. WILLIAMS: Yes.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: And a lot of things to do with men and grooming. And men now feel the same pressures as we women have felt for a very long time.
WILLIAMS: Yes.
CORNISH: Yes. Yes, but they're using hammers. They always take it to the next level.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: All right.
CORNISH: I'm just saying, men, just dial it back.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: But I do think that there's just like a cultural shift where the groomzilla is clearly part of --
CORNISH: Groomzilla. I love it.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Is a part of this.
WILLIAMS: But here's the thing, you know, and if I could be the lawyer at the garden party today.
CORNISH: (INAUDIBLE).
WILLIAMS: You know, if people spent less money on the color of the hydrangeas and more on premarital counseling or financial advising before getting married, I think we'd be --
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Oh, wa, wa, wa.
CORNISH: Sage advice. Sage --
WILLIAMS: No, it's true. No, I -- people --
CORNISH: Did you do it? I did it.
WILLIAMS: A lot of people -- a lot of people focus on that one day and not the four decades of really confronting what happens.
BLUEY: That's right.
CORNISH: Raise your hand if you did any premarital counseling.
WILLIAMS: Boom.
BLUEY: Well, I mean you have to if you get married in the Catholic Church.
WILLAIMS: Catholic Church.
CORNISH: I'm not Catholic and I did it with my pastor. OK.
WILLIAMS: How are you going to -- how are you going to raise kids? [07:00:01]
What happens if you die? All of those things. Anyway.
CORNISH: Yes.
WILLIAMS: Not to get too dark, but these are real things.
CORNISH: Not the hydrangeas.
WILLIAMS: And we focus on the colors of the flowers and the consultant.
CORNISH: Elliot, you bring in some wisdom today.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: But for me the big thing about that day is that you get to stand up in front of other people that love you --
WILLIAMS: Yes. Yes.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: And commit to each other. And so, therefore, let us all end this segment on a happy note and not with the lawyer at the table.
CORNISH: On a timeline cleanse.
GARCIA-NAVARRO: Basically telling us --
CORNISH: About your wedding planning. And it is that time of year.
WILLIAMS: Married for 14 years.
CORNISH: Serious news program we have here.
I'm Audie Cornish. And the headlines are now.
