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Former Federal Prosecutor Ankush Khardori is Interviewed about Jack Smith; Conservatives Revolt over Arkansas Welfare Ad; Paxton's Estranged Wife Speaks Out; Mariachi Band Plays National Anthem. Aired 6:30-7a ET
Aired September 29, 2026 - 06:30 ET
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AUDIE CORNISH, CNN ANCHOR: "I will not be silenced." Those are the words we're expecting to hear from former Special Counsel Jack Smith as he defends his investigations into Donald Trump at a Senate hearing later this morning. According to a copy of his prepared remarks, Smith will add, quote, "if asked whether to prosecute a former president based on the same facts today, I would do so regardless of whether that president was a Republican or a Democrat."
Now, there's already a push to prosecute Smith. House Republicans say that he made false statements in previous testimony. Smith's attorney is denying that, which makes today's hearing about more than what Jack Smith did then, but also what he could say now.
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SEN. DICK DURBIN (D-IL): If this hearing is really about getting answers, we'll finally get our chance. Jack Smith will get his chance to tell his side of the story under oath.
REP. JIM JORDAN (R-OH): He lied under oath. So, we referred him for prosecution.
Yes, we referred him. And hopefully Attorney General Blanche is going to indict Jack Smith sometime soon.
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CORNISH: Joining the group chat to discuss is Ankush Khardori, a former federal prosecutor.
Thank you for being here. I know you followed this for a long time.
I want to show you this social media post from Jim Jordan. He claims that Jack Smith "spied on communications of over a dozen Republican members of Congress." This was in his investigation into election meddling. He says that Jack Smith "obtained gag orders to prevent those members from knowing" it was happening, and that he "violated the Justice Department's own procedures to actually look at the content of those private text messages."
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So, that has been what I would call the ongoing allegation.
Can you address any of that? What do you think Jack Smith is going to say to this?
ANKUSH KHARDORI, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: Yes. So, first of all, he absolutely did not lie under oath when he testified before the House Judiciary Committee. What happened is, he did not affirmatively disclose a separate mechanism that they pursued to get messages that Republican members of Congress had in the White House in response --
CORNISH: Can you translate? Is that a lie of omission? You're saying he just didn't say how it worked?
KHARDORI: It is not a lie of omission under federal law. He was asked a question about how you -- you know, whether certain messages were obtained through a certain mechanism. He answered that question truthfully.
Jim Jordan is angry, and Republicans are angry, that he did not disclose separately that the -- his team had acquired some communications from the National Archives. Communications that were actually from the White House, not retrieved from members or their devices. So, if there is any effort to prosecute Jack Smith on the basis of the exchange that Jim Jordan has been invoking here, it will fail miserably. I would be surprised if it gets past a grand jury. And even if they did manage to indict him, my guess is a judge would throw it out. That is how tenuous Jim Jordan's allegation is.
Now --
CORNISH: So, during the break, I was like, why are they doing this now? No one cares about Jack Smith.
KHARDORI: Right.
CORNISH: Maybe they do. Sorry if you do. Hit me up in the comments. And Ashley said, look, Senate Republicans in particular have personal animus because they feel like their private message -- they felt like they were surveilled. And this is their way of bringing attention to that.
KHARDORI: Yes.
ASHLEY DAVIS, POLITICAL STRATEGIST: No, I am sorry, I just don't think it really even has anything to do with the election. I know we were talking about the base being -- this helps the base. I go back to -- I don't know if anyone from the base is even going to pay attention to this hearing today. I think it's personal.
KHARDORI: Yes. Well, I don't know. I mean we're a month out from election. There's a lot of interesting stuff going on in the country. There's a major hack of FBI agent's information that ordinarily you would expect the Senate Judiciary Committee to maybe care about. I don't know.
CORNISH: Yes. And that was just in the last couple of hours I think the reporting on that.
DAVIS: Yes.
KHARDORI: Yes.
CORNISH: Just to be clear, it's identifying information of thousands of FBI officials and personnel. And we don't know a lot of detail yet. And it doesn't look like the Senate Republican Judiciary, or whoever this is, is going to help us.
KHARDORI: Yes. Actually, the initial report is a couple of days old on that. So, this -- and this is an extraordinary breach, as it's been reported so far. We've heard -- so far as I'm aware, no official statement from the Trump administration explaining what happened here. And instead we're -- I guess we're going to have Jack Smith testifying about a case that -- two cases that are long over. And so far as I can tell, to the extent it has any political relevance, it is a reminder to people who are angry with this administration heading into the November elections that Trump could have been in prison right now if the Republican Party had not prevented the Justice Department from --
CORNISH: Well, I think they do remember that, they just think of it differently, right? They think like Trump could have been in prison if he somehow didn't stop the weaponization of government. And I want to ask you, is this part of their ongoing narrative about the weaponization of the Justice Department?
FRANCHESCA CHAMBERS, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, "USA TODAY": Oh, I think that that's absolutely part of the argument that are coming from Republicans on Capitol Hill. But I actually do want to ask you a question. Todd Blanche has said that they could potentially investigate this as Republicans on Capitol Hill have been pushing for. I mean, how likely do you actually think this is that the current Justice Department pursues some sort of investigation here?
KHARDORI: Oh, I think they would love to pursue some sort of investigation into Smith and his team if they could come up with one. But so far I've seen no reason to believe that there is a credible investigation into any sort of misconduct by Smith or his team.
By the way, you know, I've spoken with members of Smith's team over the course of the year. None of this fazes them. They understand and believe that this is a wholly political process. Jack Smith, you'll notice, is not taking the Fifth. I believe this is the third time, actually, he will testify in front of Congress. The first was behind closed doors. We got the video of that. And then he was in front of the House Judiciary Committee earlier this year.
CORNISH: Yes. And today they were already sending some of the statement ahead of time. So, he definitely plans to have his say.
KHARDORI: Yes, so -- yes.
CORNISH: OK, thank you so much for being with us. I appreciate that.
Next on CNN THIS MORNING, something a bit different for Monday night football. A mariachi band puts its own spin on the national anthem. Question about whether or not it was patriotic or too far from tradition.
Plus, Ken Paxton's estranged wife telling conservative women to vote for the seat, even if they're mad at the man. Will that work in Texas?
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CORNISH: Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders facing some backlash over an ad to sell her new Medicare work requirements. Here's a sample.
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GOV. SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS (R-AR): Meet Brad. Brad has turned relaxing into a full-time profession. But you, you actually work hard. You pay taxes to cover welfare for guys like Brad who just choose not to work.
That's why I launched a welfare to work requirement.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Almost there.
SANDERS: Now, more Arkansans are working than ever before.
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CORNISH: OK. So, what could be the problem here? It's welfare reform. This is something conservatives like. Well, it turns out the problem is Brad, a young guy sitting, playing video games, minding his business.
But the casting of Brad has some conservatives furious. For instance, "Daily Wire" writer Matt Walsh on brand saying, "Republicans don't have the balls to do this ad with, quote, 'Shaniqua' as the villain." Another commentator accused Huckabee Sanders of having, quote, "the audacity to dishonestly mock young white men as welfare queens." And one more says that the ad, quote, "villainize a white man."
The group chat is back.
I am reaching into the archives for this because I hadn't heard the term "welfare queen" in a while. Your face, Ashley. What do you think of this response to this ad?
DAVIS: Well, I think -- well I think -- first of all I think what she's doing is right.
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And we did this under Governor Ridge in Pennsylvania. It does work. And it also gives people the ownership --
CHUCK ROCHA, : Making the ads or which part of this?
DAVIS: No, the welfare --
ROCHA: The chicos (ph).
DAVIS: No, the welfare to work.
CORNISH: Yes, that's why we're baffled because everything about this means --
DAVIS: It's a great -- yes, I think this wrong for the critics because, first of all, it's a funny article. Most people that have any teenage sons, or older sons, understand this whole gaming philosophy and that kids just do it, do it, do it. So, I just think it's ridiculous that people are criticizing for it.
ROCHA: I think --
DAVIS: And she pushed back, by the way, which I respect.
CORNISH: She did.
DAVIS: She was kind of like --
CORNISH: Let me play -- she says, "some critics online don't like my welfare work requirement ad. Next thing you know, they'll say I should have used cookies instead of cheese balls. If you're able-bodied, you should not collect welfare simply because you choose not to work."
ROCHA: I think she wants this attention -- from the old political hack here -- on purpose. I think she is trolling folks. And I also think that if you at home don't think that Miss Huckabee -- and she has every right to be, I'm not denying her this fact -- wants to do something more than be the governor of Arkansas, this is what she wants, which is some attention. She could do all the things that she's doing and pass a law and make there be work restrictions without doing all this big ad. The big ad is to get attention and say, look at me, I'd make a great vice president to J.D. Vance.
DAVIS: Oh, stop it.
CORNISH: Wait, so do you think the casting is on purpose?
ROCHA: Yes, I do. I think that because of attention. She wants us talking about this because it makes her --
DAVIS: There is no way that she thought that she was going to get backlash for picking a white male. I guarantee it.
CHAMBERS: But in terms of --
ROCHA: Maybe not. Maybe not.
CHAMBERS: But in terms of even running advertising at this point, we don't have a lot of polling in Arkansas for her governor re-elect. But generally speaking, you know, she's --
ROCHA: She's going to win.
CHAMBERS: She's -- yes, she's assumed that she is going to cruise on down to victory.
ROCHA: And she's very popular.
CHAMBERS: She's got --
CORNISH: Yes.
DAVIS: Yes.
CHAMBERS: And to Chuck's point about a potential future aspirations, she's got a new book coming out, which you often see from folks who maybe want to run for president or potentially vice president, as Chuck was laying out here. She was someone who was talked about for both of those roles last cycle, too. And she'll be in her second term if re-elected as governor.
CORNISH: Yes. I can see where the backlash --
CHAMBERS: So, certainly, she is someone who, I think, wants to be part of the conversation.
CORNISH: I see where the backlash is coming from in that you have a Trump administration which has prioritized white people in the refugee program, for example, with South Africans. You have your equal opportunity office putting out a call for a lawsuit if you are a white man who has been affected by, you know, overzealous HR or whatever. Everything about the administration has said, white men, we're here to take care of you in a way you weren't before. And like to those people who are happy about this moment, seeing that ad was probably pretty jarring.
DAVIS: I guess. I also think that my own political statement, if we have a woman that wants to run for president or wants to be vice president in the Republican Party, I am all for it because we do not have enough women. So.
CORNISH: Well, speaking of women, I have another story for you, Ashley, that you're going to enjoy.
DAVIS: Oh, I know the next one.
CORNISH: The estranged wife of Texas Senate Nominee Ken Paxton, he's -- she's got a message for Republican women ahead of the midterm elections. She says, look, support the candidate no matter what, even if you don't like them or their morals.
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ANGELA PAXTON (R), TEXAS STATE SENATOR: The reality is, while we are the party of values, we have some vulnerabilities on our ballot. It's not the people, it's the seat. Because we have more control over
that seat and the future when we control the seat, when it's still in the family, even if we're mad at him (ph).
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CORNISH: This is a fascinating moment, of course, because when she filed for divorce, she made headlines when she announced it on X, saying that she "filed for divorce on biblical grounds" and "in light of recent discoveries." And then, of course, the headlines followed as a result. Whether that be some of the scandals plaguing Paxton, an alleged affair, bribery, abuse of office allegations, felony indictment of an impeachment trial, which the senate there did not approve.
So, now she's coming in and being like, listen, guys, guys, I know I said, I know I said some things, but it matters more to have Texas red. Is she the right messenger for this?
ROCHA: Look, as the only man on this panel, I'm going to tread lightly. But I will say that the scorn of a woman is not light (ph) on Mr. Paxton. And what I mean by that is, she is not just a woman. She is an elected state senator and has a powerful position in the state. She actually got to vote against or for the impeachment of her own husband at the time.
CORNISH: Maybe people would have voted for her.
ROCHA: See there, this is my point, that she is super talented. Absolutely.
CORNISH: I'm just saying, maybe it's your time, Angela.
ROCHA: But what she's saying to the voters is, I don't even like him. Just vote because he's a Republican and we need this seat. Because, obviously, I don't like him. I divorced him for biblical reasons.
CORNISH: Oh, my gosh.
ROCHA: Y'all can vote for him or not vote for him.
CORNISH: Well, listen, Trump --
ROCHA: Her words, not mine.
CORNISH: Trump --
DAIVS: What do biblical reasons mean?
ROCHA: It means she reads the Bible probably. You know what it means, Ashley. You know what it means.
CORNISH: Oh, my God, Ashley. You know what it means. In fact, we're saying biblical because it's a morning show.
[06:50:02] And that's what she said in the headline.
DAVIS: I just wanted Chuck to -- I just wanted to embarrass Chuck.
CORNISH: Here is the president, at various times, also giving a winning message for Paxton.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: And, you know, we have a guy named Ken Paxton. And some people don't like the way he dresses, or some people don't like the way he interviews or talks.
She might not love his look. You might not love his television interviews. But he was the best attorney general in the country perhaps.
He may not dress right, he may not talk exactly perfectly, and he may not be the best looking guy I've ever seen.
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CORNISH: Now, I wasn't playing that to be funny. I'm playing it because the consistency of the message from the president is even bringing up things no one has bothered to be upset about yet. And multiple times you have him saying it.
CNN, one of our columnists writing, "the Texas money pit. Republicans are spending big trying to save Ken Paxton's Senate bid." And, of course, the polling showing right now among Texas registered voters, 50 percent right now leaning towards Talarico. So, is the White House just like, is it a five alarm fire, a three alarm fire? Get down to Texas.
CHAMBERS: Well, he's going to the Texas line this week to campaign once again. And this is after we saw Republicans hold their entire convention in Texas to try and put a spotlight on this race and give themselves a boost.
CORNISH: Yes, if they don't win Texas at this point, it would be a slap in the face. Just the sheer volume of effort.
CHAMBERS: Well, I'm just saying, at this point, they have -- they will have done everything that they possibly could short of Texans not picking Ken Paxton for the seat, to try and win the race among the White House Republicans.
CORNISH: Yes. But the money is real. Should you --
ROCHA: If I'd have said to Ashley a year ago that they were going to spend $166 million, she'd have slapped me off of this table. Nobody would have believed they'd have spent $160 million in Texas. And we still might not win. And it's a tight race.
CORNISH: I was about to say, have you seen some of the ads. Some of the A.I. ads in particular that depict Talarico doing things which are not really --
DAVIS: Yes.
ROCHA: This is biggest difference.
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CORNISH: I actually think stuff like that can have an effect.
ROCHA: It could work. It's a political strategy. Look, we know --
DAVIS: Yes.
ROCHA: And full disclosure, I work for James Talarico, but I'm also paid to win elections. And I will tell you, it's a tactic that we don't know yet if it's going to work or not work where James Talarico is ahead today. But the election is not today. Will all this money matter? Tune in because we're going to find out.
DAVIS: Going back to the wife. And I don't care about their marriage or whatever. I mean, not my business. However --
CORNISH: We don't either. It was on social media, Ashley.
DAVIS: No, no, no, I get it. I get it.
CORNISH: OK.
DAVIS: I'm not criticizing that.
CORNISH: Yes.
DAVIS: I'm just saying, this isn't what I'm talking about. I also think that there's polls out there that women do not like Paxton, which is obvious, and reasons why.
ROCHA: We're leaning into that.
DAVIS: And you're leaning into that. And that's why she came out. And, you know, remember, she was sticking up for him when he was going through his impeachment too.
CORNISH: Here's why -- here's another reason, as you said. You mentioned her being an elected official. So, I just want to play this so people can have some context.
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ANGELA PAXTON (R), TEXAS STATE SENATOR: I think Republican women will decide this election. Because some of those vulnerabilities, I think, have been particularly alienating to women.
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CORNISH: So, she's saying, Republican women will decide the election in Texas. ROCHA: She's right.
CORNISH: We will see.
I want to turn to one more thing. The sweet sounds of patriotism getting some attention because it was a mariachi band doing "The Star- Spangled Banner" before last night's Bears-Eagles game in Chicago.
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CORNISH: The performance was part of the Bears Hispanic Heritage Month celebration. Some on social media called it disrespectful. Others loved it. No word from the NFL.
I suspect these were the same people complaining about "Brad" in the welfare ad --
DAVIS: Yes, exactly.
CORNISH: But here they are hating on mariachi. I feel --
DAVIS: I actually watched that last night because my husband --
CORNISH: What did you think?
DAVIS: My husband's a Bears fan. I thought it was very nice. It was fun. It was different. I did there -- I do remember going through my mind, this is interesting, and I wondered if the NFL knew. But it was good.
ROCHA: I would have --
CORNISH: All right, here's some --
DAVIS: Nothing negative.
CORNISH: Here's some other responses from the internets.
"The national anthem is sacred and should never be used as a mechanism of division and a pawn in a political game. Yet the NFL did it anyway."
And, "A mariachi band for the United States national anthem? How pathetic."
It goes on and on and on like this. So.
ROCHA: I will say that there are over 40 million Mexican Americans in the United States. And that mariachi band was not playing the Mexico national anthem. It was playing the United States American -- play --
CORNISH: The national anthem. Yes.
ROCHA: My grandfather came here as an immigrant. I'm American. And I'm as blue blooded. And I hunt and I fish. And I'm like every other American, quote, unquote, that you think is American. I will say this, is that, it's smart of the NFL to do this because a lot of guys like me who have Mexican-American descent love the NFL. And it's just a little hat tip. It doesn't mean you're being DEI. It's just saying, it's Mexican American Month.
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We like our black audience, our white audience, our Mexican audience --
CORNISH: It's probably coming off of Benito Bowl and just the, like, you know what I mean, having a halftime in Spanish. There's going to be people who are making a big deal out of it. I was actually -- what was breaking news to me is that they still had a Hispanic Heritage Month.
ROCHA: Yes.
CORNISH: I did not know.
DAVIS: What actually bothers me the most are the people that actually played it last night, that band, because they're going to be blown up on social media just because of the broader issue and not themselves. And those people got up and played a beautiful piece. And I think we should be respecting them.
ROCHA: I think they'll get more (INAUDIBLE).
DAIVS: And all the people on social media that criticize all of us, you know, I have ugly hair, you know, I forget everything they --
CORNISH: I get a little worse than that, but go on.
DAVIS: Yes.
CORNISH: It's a little different. But, yes.
DAVIS: But, I mean, I get others.
CORNISH: Yes.
DAVIS: I mean, but, I mean, why criticize people?
CORNISH: Yes. Don't embarrass yourself by hating on mariachi. That's the word from me.
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CORNISH: OK, time for a group chat. What is in your group chat, Chuck, beyond the campaigns you're working on, like Talarico.
ROCHA: We're making TV ads everywhere, but that's not in my group chat.
I want to go back to the tried and true -- y'all know I went to Alaska last year. It's Fat Bear Week. I am super excited about Fat Bear Week. And I think Bucky did -- CORNISH: Oh, my God. I am so glad that there's an actual bear on screen now. I was like, is this a euphemism? Where are we going?
ROCHA: No, it's Fat Bear Week at Katmai National Park.
CORNISH: It is an actual -- thank you.
ROCHA: Absolutely. It's like an NCAA bracket. We're down to the final four. And I think Bucky Dent here could win it all in Fat Bear Week.
CORNISH: Is that the actual name?
DAVIS: Is that the bear, Bucky?
ROCHA: Bucky Dent right there.
CORNISH: Oh, those ears.
ROCHA: You can always tell because that dark spot between his eyes. That's old Bucky right there.
DAVIS: Does he always win?
ROCHA: Yes. No, he don't always.
CORNISH: This is such a palate cleanser. I love it.
ROCHA: Yes.
CORNISH: Thank you for this on my timeline.
DAVIS: So much more exciting than mine.
CORNISH: I needed this after today's politics.
ROCHA: Fat Bear Week. I tried to go on Kalshi and bet on it. You cannot bet on Fat Bear Week because you can't --
CORNISH: That's literally the only thing you can't bet on.
ROCHA: That's right. I'm just saying.
CORNISH: Are those cubs? I'm in love.
ROCHA: Yes, you got them. And I found out in Alaska, the more cubs you have means there's more food available for the mamas.
CORNISH: So cute. Awe.
ROCHA: So, if they're having a lot of babies, there's lots of food that year.
CORNISH: Yes.
DAVIS: I'm changing my group chat.
CHAMBERS: No kidding.
CORNISH: To what?
ROCHA: Sorry. Can't top that.
DAVIS: Well, my group chat was Elon's -- the rocket and how this new Starlinks are up and we're never going to be able to be on planes again without being connected.
CORNISH: Oh.
DAVIS: However, my real group chat now is, for our audience, right before the show started --
CORNISH: Oh, my God.
DAVIS: I spilled an entire cup of coffee on myself and Chuck.
CORNISH: Why are you outing your --
DAVIS: All over my face.
ROCHA: No, not on yourself. In your face. Just right --
DAVIS: In my face.
ROCHA: Just like a comedian would do it. Like, a full cup.
CORNISH: Yes.
DAVIS: And I came out and I smell like a wet dog right down.
ROCHA: Hat tip to the hair and makeup express team in the back.
CORNISH: It's OK. (INAUDIBLE).
DAVIS: This is -- hat tip to the ladies.
CORNISH: See, this is what you guys miss in the morning, our little Lucy and Desi routine over here. Not great.
CHAMBERS: This is a real thing that actually happened by the --
DAVIS: Oh, there it is.
CORNISH: A live shot of a mess on the floor.
CHAMBERS: By the magic wall over there. Yes, you can see the shot now.
CORNISH: You guys are nicer than me. I was going to say, that's a live shot of Congress, but here we go.
DAVIS: Totally. Yes.
CHAMBERS: I know I did not -- I did not get spilled on, but I was standing there when this happened. I can be like a second source on this.
CORNISH: Thoughts and prayers.
CHAMBERS: And I just -- and I just was just staring at her.
CORNISH: Yes.
CHAMBERS: So, when she turned to me during the first segment, I was just still thinking about the coffee and --
CORNISH: Oh, my God. No more -- just, no, no.
CHAMBERS: And I was really shook. I was very shook.
CORNISH: All right, live shot of a survivor of coffee-gate 2026.
Tell me what -- how did you live after?
CHAMBERS: Oh, gosh. Oh, gosh. Well, no, my group chat isn't nearly as fun as this.
CORNISH: Yes. What is it?
CHAMBERS: Yes, but I've got to go back to serious stuff now. I'm sorry. I don't have anything very fun this morning.
CORNISH: Do you want me to just throw something on you? Just a little --
CHAMBERS: No, no, no, no. Sorry to end it on a serious note.
No, my group chat was the increasing concern from U.S. and European officials about these Russian hybrid attacks and acts of sabotage that have been happening against NATO member nations.
CORNISH: Hybrid of what, military tech -- like what do you mean hybrid?
CHAMBERS: No, no, hybrid -- hybrid more cyber hacks.
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CHAMBERS: Acts of sabotage. Or even things like hitting that diplomatic train that was near the Polish border. Drone incursions that go into NATO nations that can be passed off as an accident. But what we've been hearing more vocally after the drone that was infused with explosives that we saw at the German airport in August, we've now been hearing European officials directly blame Russia more vocally for these incidents.
CORNISH: Does the White House care about it?
CHAMBERS: Oh, this is something that I've heard directly from U.S. officials. We've heard Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz say that they're concerned that one of these incidents could lead to a wider war that goes outside of Ukraine, potentially because of miscalculations or an accident. So, we're hearing this from a wide range of officials inside and outside the country at this point. The question, though, is, are any of these things end up being a triggering event for NATO? So.
CORNISH: OK. All right. Thank you for that.
CHAMBERS: Yes.
CORNISH: Well, you guys, stay with us. There's a lot going on in Washington today, including a meeting of tech leaders who are talking with the White House. They've got calls for regulation. The White House does not necessarily believe there needs to be extra regulation and how that could affect innovation. This is amidst a new, fresh report from OpenAI that they're not releasing their latest model because it didn't exactly follow directions.
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So, we're going to talk about that.
And the other thing happening today is Jack Smith is back on The Hill. Yes, yet again. It will be the third time he speaks up for his time investigating the January 6th riots. So, we're going to talk about what comes out of the Senate in those hearings today.
I'm Audie Cornish, and the headlines are next.
