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HALA GORANI, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hello, welcome, I'm Hala Gorani. Coronavirus on the rise in States across the U.S. and Countries around the
world. But is it a second wave?
Then Beijing and New Delhi Are calling for calm after some brutal clashes in the Himalayas. Can Indian and Chinese forces find an off ramp?
And the U.S. police reform debate, many protesters say Donald Trump's executive order does not go anywhere near far enough.
Well, as the world settles in to this new environment that we're calling normal, several countries are reporting fresh spikes in coronavirus cases
and that has some people worried. Beijing for instance has raised its COVID alert level again after more than 130 new cases were reported in just five
days. State media report that the Chinese capital has canceled nearly 70 percent of its commercial flights amid the new outbreak.
Meanwhile, Germany is reporting 30 covid-19 deaths in just the last 24 hours. Hundreds of households are under quarantine in one Berlin district
after dozens of people were infected there. And we have just learned of 400 new infections in meat processes plants in northwest Germany.
In the United States, more than 20 states are seeing an increase in coronavirus cases and in some instances they are significant increases.
However, Mike Pence, the head of the Coronavirus Task Force is putting a more positive spin on the pandemic ahead of Trump's upcoming political
rally in Oklahoma.
Florida's governor insists the economy will not be shutting down again after reporting the highest number of cases on Monday. Rosa Flores is in
Miami.
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ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Coronavirus cases in Florida jumped by nearly 2,800 Monday, setting a single day record.
GOV. RON DESANTIS (R), FLORIDA: No, we're not shutting down.
FLORES: And Florida Governor Ron DeSantis said he's not shutting down the economy despite the ongoing uptick in cases, instead saying that Florida is
open for business.
Hosting the first NASCAR race with fans this past weekend, and a portion of the Republican National Convention set to take place in Jacksonville in
just over two months.
DESANTIS: I think I mentioned the other day outbreaks in agricultural communities.
FLORES: And while DeSantis claims the uptick is due to outbreaks in agricultural communities and prisons, mayors in his state in the epicenter
of the crisis like Miami and Miami Beach say people are not doing the basics like wearing masks.
DAN GELBER, MIAMI BEACH MAYOR: We really have to remind people that they have to wear their masks especially when inside. They have to exercise
physical distancing.
FLORES: A Florida health care worker said she and 15 of her friends tested positive for coronavirus after one night at a Jacksonville beach bar.
ERIKA CRISP, HEALTH CARE WORKER: I think that we were careless and we went out into the public place before we should have and we weren't wearing
masks.
FLORES: Florida International University infectious disease expert Dr. Eileen Marty warns says that the cases could continue spike. As the state
sees the impacts of scenes like this.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let's go ahead and shut down east bound. I'm coming over.
FLORES: From Memorial Day in Daytona Beach, Florida, and large-scale protests showing many people not social distancing and not wearing masks.
DR. AILEEN MARTY, INFECTIOUS DISEASE PROFESSOR, FIU: One of the ways we can help each other have an economy and at the same time work to get this virus
out of the community is by wearing our masks.
FLORES: Another state seeing an uptake in cases, South Carolina.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Like freedom.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's like a new life.
FLORES: Governor Henry McMaster acknowledged people were not social distancing and urges residents to do so, but says he has no plans to shut
down the economy.
Also digging in his heels, President Donald Trump pushing forward on a MAGA rally this weekend in Tulsa. No masks required, despite an increase in
cases there and a lawsuit demanding the rally to cease. Unless organizers commit to following social distancing guidelines.
HOWARD STERN, RADIO HOST: I've made it clear. I can't stand seeing people walking out without a mask.
FLORES: Howard Stern taking his frustration to the airwaves. Criticizing the people claiming that not wearing a mask is American freedom.
STERN: Freedom doesn't mean you get to do whatever the fuck you want.
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GORANI: That was Rosa Flores reporting.
Meantime in the neighboring state of Alabama, where are we here? The Montgomery -- let me find my way. City council has rejected a proposal for
people to wear face masks in public, despite medical experts warning that hospitals are running low on medical supplies and that only 2 percent of
ICU beds are available.
Right now, COVID-19 cases are spiking in Montgomery County which is reporting the highest number of infections in the State. On Monday, the
city reported 328 new cases in the county since Friday.
Now, Beijing, there's been a spike of cases in that part of China and some part of the Chinese capital. That has some people worried. The Chinese
capital is racing to stop the spread of a new outbreak of coronavirus. Dozens of new cases have been traced back to one local food market. One of
Asia's biggest. Ivan Watson has the story.
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IVAN WATSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: In the Chinese capital, government officials announced that a late-night briefing that the
situation is very dire. Beijing's coronavirus alert levels are being raised. Schools closed and nonessential travel outside of the city strongly
discouraged.
A soft citywide lockdown after authorities say they detected more than 100 new locally transmitted cases in the last five days. Less than two weeks
ago, Beijing was easing coronavirus alert levels. But the new cluster of infections has experts worried.
MICHAEL RYAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, W.H.O. HEALTH EMERGENCIES PROGRAM: Over 50 days without having Any significant local transmission, the cluster like
this is a concern. And it needs to be investigated and controlled and that's exactly what the Chinese Authorities are doing.
WATSON: Most of the new cases traced back to this place, the Xinfadi market in the south of Beijing. This sprawling market and at least two others have
now been shuttered. Leading to scenes like this where vendors dump fresh food.
Officials have imposed a strict lockdown on dozens of residential compounds. CNN interviewed a resident of one of the developments who says
she's now relying on deliveries of online purchases of groceries.
WANG DU, BEIJING RESIDENT (through translator): We cannot actually go outside our building. We can't leave the residential community. I have
brought my computer home and I have been working from home these days.
WATSON: City officials launched a huge coronavirus testing spree. They have tracked down nearly 200,000 people to have visited the market in last two
weeks. The Chinese government clearly doesn't want to repeat of what happened last winter when the new virus exploded there the city of Wuhan
And then spread like wildfire around the world. Some residents unhappy with the new restrictions.
ZHU LI, SMALL BUSINESS OWNER (through translator): I am affected. Hugely impacted. There are no customers now. No one comes into the shop.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): No, don't lock down the city. If it's lockdown it would not only impact Individual business, but also
factories that are just resuming production. The damage would be huge.
WATSON: The stakes are high.
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GORANI: Well CNN's Ivan Watson reporting there. Let's go to Beijing now where we find our Steven Jiang. And these are some pretty extreme measures
we're talking about the closure of several markets, the disinfecting of over 250 markets. Some neighborhoods closed. I mean, how worried are the
Chinese authorities and can we trust the numbers they're giving us?
STEVEN JIANG, CNN SENIOR PRODUCER: Well, they are definitely alarmed, Hala, because remember before this latest cluster of cases, Beijing had not seen
any new cases for almost two months. So in a way, you know, these things were getting back to a sense normalcy. You know, you saw people take off
their masks in public and places like shopping malls and restaurants and bars were getting crowded again and then of course everything came to the
screeching halt with the latest cluster of cases. So that's why they are very alarmed.
Now you mentioned or Ivan mentioned the soft lockdown the city has been under. But this is still very different from what we saw in Wuhan. It's a
soft lockdown, meaning they're not sealing off the city but they're discouraging all nonessential travel.
So if you have to lose a town, you must present a negative result from a test done within seven days of departure. And also as he mentioned they are
locking down a growing number of neighborhoods where they have reported recent cases, but the focus remains on this market, because when it was
opened, it housed thousands of vendors and saw huge crowds on a daily basis so that's why they're tracking everyone who had been there since May 30th.
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And now the number of the people they have found in this category more than 350,000 and they sent all of them will have been tested by the end of
Wednesday. Hala?
GORANI: All right, Steven Jiang, thanks very much.
The U.S. vice president Mike Pence wrote an op-ed Tuesday saying that panic over the second wave of infections in the U.S. is overblown and that the
U.S. is winning the fight against the quote invisible enemy. The statements echo that of the President Trump. Data however suggest cases are rising in
at least 20 U.S. states and as we reported some of the figures are rather concerning.
Let's bring in our chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta. First off, let's get one thing out of the way. You agree we're not in a second wave.
Why?
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: I think because we haven't necessarily gotten out of the first wave. I mean it's almost a
luxury in some ways, Hala, to Ttlk about the second wave here.
Let me show you. I mean if you look at the trend lines overall in the United States, we know sort of what happened. There was a significant peak.
You see what's happening now across the country. And certain parts of the country are improving, but these are places in the country that had
significant peaks in April.
Maybe a little bit of a downward trend but now it seems like other parts of the country in the Southeast and the west are starting to catch up. Some of
these states are going up significantly at a very rapid pace in part because they opened up earlier and we're starting to see the ramifications
of that.
Keep in mind, Hala, after states start to reopen, people become more mobile. You don't see an increase in positive cases right away. It can take
a few weeks, but this is sort of what the United States look like since, you know, end of March. It's gone down, but sort of plateaued. And we're
still dealing with, you know, several hundred people dying every day of this disease in this country and tens of thousands of people still becoming
infected. More people have died in the last 24 hours in the United States of this disease than have died throughout this entire pandemic in other
countries.
Let me show you quickly what a wave actually look like, Hala, to your question. Italy. I pick Italy because in some ways they dealt with some of
the same trajectories that we did in the United States. This is when you talk about a second wave potentially because the first wave seems to have
come to some sort of true ebb and flow here. So we're not there in this country at this point.
GORANI: Yes. And I want to ask you also about this research that came out of the UK. Just when I was getting used to saying hydroxychloroquine
there's another name that I have to now pronounce, dexamethasone, which is a commonly used steroid.
GUPTA: Yes, you got it.
GORANI: It hasn't been used in these chronic lung conditions before but now we have some data to back up this treatment.
GUPTA: Yes. This is potentially very encouraging news. I will preface, Hala, by saying, you know, we have only seen a press release, you know,
about this. We haven't seen the actual study yet. We wouldn't be talking about on this your program at this point, but there's obviously such a
clamoring for any new, you know, breakthrough or medicine to help with COVID.
So this as you mentioned a commonly --
GORANI: Yes.
GUPTA: -- available medication to steroid. You know, when you think about these medications they are given to people whose -- you need to decrease
inflammation in their body. And what they found was in people on breathing machines and ventilators if they got this medication for 10 days it
actually reduced mortality by a third.
If that's true and the studies bear that out, this is first medication that shows that, Hala. We've had other medications that had an impact on this
disease, but they didn't necessarily save lives. This is the first one that actually could save lives. And people who are on oxygen, it decreased
mortality by a fifth. Again, if they're on breathing machines by a third.
It's really interesting. If I can just tell you briefly.
GORANI: All right.
GUPTA: You know, when you think about why people get really sick oftentimes it's the body's response to the virus. The virus causes the problem. The
body releases all of this inflammation and that's actually what can be deadly to people who are critically ill.
A steroid medication like Dexamethasone here can actually decrease that inflammation and save lives. That's what this study seemed to indicate.
Again, we'll follow it, but if it's true a widely available, effective medication like this could be a significant development.
GORANI: And what about people who are already taking this steroid as part of an anti-asthma treatment, could this be a prophylactic or not?
GUPTA: No, I don't think so. You know, really this is really targeted for people who have become significantly ill. In the early stage of the
disease, the virus is replicating within the body the virus itself is the problem. And the later stages of the disease, the virus is still there, but
what becomes a larger problem is the inflammatory response to the body.
The body is overreacting to the virus. You get a lot of inflammation. The steroid medication sort of cuts down on the inflammation, so it's not
prophylactic. It's not even really probably -- that beneficial in people who have mild disease, it's really for more severe critically ill people.
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GORANI: All right, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, thanks so much.
GUPTA: Yes, thank you.
GORANI: We'll have more on the COVID pandemic a little bit later. But I want to talk about a major area of tension in the world. Two nuclear powers
facing off in a remote corner of the Himalayas. Monday, Indian and Chinese soldiers fought on disputed land using stones and bamboo poles and around
two dozen people died on the Indian side.
At least 20 soldiers were killed. And that has prompted anger in several cities. You see people here stomping on Chinese-made products. Others
burned in effigy of China's president. The Indian prime minister had this to say.
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NARENDRA MODI, INDIAN PRIME MINISTER (through translator): India wants peace, but on being provoked India's capable of giving a befitting reply in
any case. We don't compromise with the integrity and sovereignty of our country.
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GORANI: Well, our CNN International Correspondent, Sam Kiley is following developments from Abu Dhabi and both China and India officials are calling
for de-escalation. How much hope, how much optimism is there when it comes to trying to defuse things on the ground?
SAM KILEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, this is as you know, Hala, an extremely fraught area. This is a border that -- well, the line of
what actual control is its official and rather clumsy name which is the front line between competing armies of India and China over a front
notionally of about 3.5,000 kilometers mostly up in the high Himalayas.
Now, this clash happened at 14,000 feet in the Galwan River Valley. The Indians are claiming that 20 of their men were killed as a consequence of
hand to hand combat that did not involve the use of firearms because neither side is allowed firearms under previous armistice agreements in
that territory.
And that the majority of the Indian casualties died of wounds or because of hypothermia and other problems in terms getting them evacuated. There's no
news at all or response to our demands or questions of the Chinese to explain whether or not they suffered any casualties.
But the problem for the Indians now I think, Hala, is that Narendra Modi has strongly hinted at a very least that he will take action as you've
demonstrating there in your introduction. There been demonstrations against China, There are demands among Indian military veterans for recompense for
revenge against China in this very forbidding landscape, which has been the scene of previous clashes. These have not come entirely out of the blue
these events.
GORANI: And what about ordinary people? We're seeing very angry demonstrators but what's sentiment there?
KILEY: Well, I think that that is part of the problem for the Modi response. It's been a very interesting, Very differently modulated response
coming from China. We have put up men in suits from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, to call for de-escalation for diplomacy to work its way through.
Mr. Modi as you know is a nationalist leader. He came to power very much on the wave of particularly Hindu Nationalism and is under pressure from the
ground to do something about that and he's taking a more robust line, very much in terms of India's relations with Pakistan on the other side of Jammu
and Kashmir, the same region. But another contested border that they have there between India and Pakistan in the past.
So he's under a lot of pressure to do something to hit back. It may be that the Chinese come out and say how many casualties that they have had and
some kind of comparison can be made. That may be an opportunity to de- escalate but there's been escalations in terms of building efforts, in terms -- certainly from the Chinese perspective of India reinforcing the
presence behind the line of actual control. Behind the front line positions which the Chinese have said in the past is a bellicose thing to do. And of
course, as you know, Hala, there have been bloody clashes, indeed a war between the two sides in past and those were often triggered by Chinese
logistics and reenforcements in the area that India claims as its own.
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GORANI: Thanks very much, Sam Kiley. We'll keep in eye on that.
Still ahead, a push for police reform gets traction in the White House, but the question is does it go far enough? We'll be right back.
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GORANI: Well, there are competing versions of legislation to reform the police. There's a Republican version and the Democrat version. Well, the
Senate Republicans have just unveiled their police reform bill. House Democrats presented their competing measure last week. The republican bill
comes a day after President Donald Trump signed an Executive Order on policing that critics say falls way short of what is needed. Kaitlan
Collins has more.
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KAITLAN COLLINS, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): As he offered a full throated defense of law enforcement, President Trump signed an
Executive Order encouraging modest police reforms.
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We will have reform without undermining our many great and extremely talented law enforcement officers.
COLLINS: Instead of calling for immediate action the order focuses on guidelines and establishes a national database to track excessive use of
force And offering funding incentives for police departments that increase training and meet Justice department's standards.
TRUMP: These standards will be as high and as strong as there is on earth.
COLLINS: Without offering details, the order also encourages prohibiting the use of chokeholds with an exception.
TRUMP: Chokeholds will be banned, except if an officer's life is at risk.
COLLINS: The president did not address allegations of systemic racism in law enforcement. And instead argued that police misconduct is rare.
TRUMP: There are very tiny -- I use the word tiny, it's a very small percentage, but you have them.
COLLINS: Before the event, Trump met privately with families whose loved ones were killed by police. Then surrounded himself with law enforcement
officials and police Union representatives.
TRUMP: Please come up.
COLLINS: At the event on police reform, Trump quickly moved on to other subjects as he mused about retail numbers and school choice.
TRUMP: Frankly, school choice is the civil rights statement of the year.
COLLINS: He also made a veiled reference to efforts to replace confederate statues.
TRUMP: We must build upon our heritage, not tear it down.
COLLINS: On Fox News, before the event, Vice President Mike Pence was asked what seemed like a simple question.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you believe it's harder to -- for someone who's black to make it in this country, whether they're man or a woman?
COLLINS: Pence spent over two minutes not answering it directly and instead focused on Joe Biden.
MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I love your question because I saw where Joe Biden tweeted that everyone should have a fair shot
at the American dream. Why don't you supporting allowing African-American families to choose where they go to school?
COLLINS (on camera): And the president said before he came out to the Rose Garden that he had met with those families whose loved ones had been killed
by police officers. He named off several of them, including Antoine Rose, whose mother later clarified in the statement that she was not at the White
House for that meeting along with the other families. She said she had no intentions of going to the White House and would not do so even if she was
invited.
Kaitlan Collins, CNN, the white House.
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GORANI: Well the death of George Floyd under the knee of a Minneapolis police officer has truly reverberate around the world including Ghana,
where the tourism minister is inviting black Americans to leave where you're not wanted and come home. Stephanie Busari has that.
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STEPHANIE BUSARI, CNN SUPERVISING PRODUCER (voice-over): One African nation is sending a message to African-Americans in the wake of George Floyd's
death.
BARBARA OTENG-GYASI, GHANAIAN POLITICIAN: We continue to open our arms and invite all of our brothers and sisters home. Ghana is your home. Africa is
your home.
BUSARI: Ghana recently unveils a monument to Floyd and is openly calling for black Americans to move there.
The country has courted the Black dollar for some time. Last year the president launched the Year of Return initiative, marking 400 years since
the first documented arrival of West African slaves to America.
Young and old flocked to the country for a number of cultural events such as a craft fashion week and a Afrochella. Ghana's prime minister hailed the
scheme a massive success saying it recorded as much as $3 billion in added GDP. The government in Accra is now building on that momentum with another
initiative called Beyond the Return which aims to encourage Investment in Ghana.
AKWASI AGYEMANG, GHANA TOURISM CEO: The clarion call for the African movement to be re-ignited is really something that is natural. Africa is
home and we are hoping to open arms to our kith and kin to come home.
BUSARI: One African-American man who came for business trip in February said he chose to stay and see the pandemic through there and he urges
others to follow in his footsteps.
RASHAD MCCROREY, FOUNDER, AFRICA CROSS-CULTURE: Really consider moving to Africa. Really consider moving to Ghana. This land, the sources, the
riches. Everything is here for you to succeed.
BUSARI: A country once central to the transatlantic slave trade through offering a safe haven for those looking to restart their lives. Stephanie
Busari, CNN, Lagos.
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GORANI: Ahead on the program, racism and police brutality here in the UK. We'll speak with Britain's first Black chief constable on what can be done
to address it and his experience serving in the top echelon of the UK's police Force. We'll be right back.
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GORANI: There is a movement in Washington to push reform forward. We're seeing it with competing Democratic and Republican proposals to reform
police but activists in Atlanta among other places, are saying they want justice now. Their call involves Rayshard Brooks, a black man killed by
police last week.
Brooks' family and some experts say he did not have to die. Many people who saw that video say he did not have to die.
Now we are waiting to hear from prosecutors on whether the two officers involved in his killing will be charged criminally.
Dianne Gallagher is in Atlanta with more. When should we expect to hear this development, to get this development on whether or not these officers
will be criminally charged with killing Rayshard Brooks.
DIANNE GALLAGHER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So Hala, we're waiting because it could happen any moment now. The district attorney here in Fulton County,
Paul Howard said that he would announce whether or not he was charging those two officers as early as today, Wednesday but said that if he made
the decision to do so that the announcement regardless would probably come sometime mid-week this week.
And he's talked about some of the charges that he's considered here murder, felony murder, voluntary manslaughter, and what's key is that he's also
discussed that he's looking at both officers, the officer, Officer Garrett Rolfe, who was fired from the Atlanta Police Department. He's the one who
shot and killed Rayshard Brooks on that Friday night.
The other officer is the original responder, but they're also looking at whether or not they may charge that officer as well. And that is something
that Rayshard Brooks family wants to happen. They want to see both officers charge. At this point though, we still have to wait to see if any charges
at all will be brought against them.
GORANI: All right, we'll keep following that story and also reaction to whatever ends up happening with regards to potential charges. Dianne
Gallagher, thanks very much live in Atlanta.
As the Black Lives Matter movement goes global the U.K. is facing the reality of its own instances of police brutality and racism. For several
weekends in a row demonstrators have taken a stand in solidarity with the United States. In England deaths in police custody, a lack of diversity in
the police force and racial profiling all played the public's relationship with police.
This past weekend, the protests took a violent turn, as right wing groups added to the tension and to the violence that has to be said more than 100
people were arrested. At least 60 police officers were injured and with protests planned for this coming weekend, the city is bracing potentially
for more confrontation.
Joining me now from London is Michael Fuller, Britain's first black Police Chief Constable, the former Chief Constable of Kent Police, he wrote the
memoir, A Search for Belonging. It's a reflection on the treatment of ethnic minority officers and the lack of progressiveness of inclusion in
public service in general.
Thank you very much, sir, for joining us. And your book was first called, Killed the Black One First, because this is something that was said to you
during the Brixton riots and we'll get to that in a moment. But talk to us a little bit about your personal experience being a very high ranking
police officer in the U.K., black police officer in the U.K., you've had a long and distinguished career now that the Black Lives Movement protests
have spread to the U.K. What are your thoughts?
MICHAEL FULLER, FORMER CHIEF CONSTABLE OF KENT POLICE: Well, my thoughts focus that are outlined in my book. The end of the day, a lot of the
problems are -- when I was a very young officer that quote killed the black one first is something that was shouted at me or in the only black officer
amongst some 30 officers.
And it was my first experience of having a petrol bomb throwing at me, some -- first and the petrol bomb was thrown and they -- I smelt -- I heard the
sound of -- fumes and the next thing is they were flames that was shooting up both in front and behind the shield. I was strike, very frightening
experience and one that stayed with me for the rest of my life.
And before this riot started, I heard a lot of racism on the right bus when I was with the other cops and I didn't feel I've been -- I felt I belonged.
So they black use who were intent on trying to carry on either side. But as I've grown through the ranks, I've seen less racism but it's a lots of
changes for the better along the way.
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GORANI: I'm having some problems hearing you, the audio is a little choppy but I'm going to power through and hope that it improves. The statistics
are staggering in the U.K. Obviously there are major differences in how U.K. officers police versus how Americans do it. But still, if you look at
the numbers 6.9 percent of officers are from an ethnic minority in this country versus 14 percent of the population.
Black people are three times more likely to be arrested than a white person, nine times more likely police are to stop and search a black person
than a white person. There is so much progress that needs to be done, is the country on the right track?
FULLER: (Inaudible) as you have in the U.S. and the country -- things have still rather than making the progress that he -- selected since I was
elected in the year 2004. (Inaudible) I enjoyed my time. I got a very warm reception from the large city where I weren't and I had 5000 staff who work
for me uncompromising on everybody being treated fairly, whether they liked the thoughts. And I thoroughly enjoyed my career.
GORANI: Michael Fuller, I apologize profusely, the audio problems are insurmountable at this moment. We are going to try to reconnect with you
and make sure that we can hear every word you're saying. Right now I'm hearing about every third or fourth word. So -- but I really, really want
to be able to interview you. So let's try to fix the technical problem. And then we will hopefully get back to Michael Fuller and have a conversation
about his experience in the police force.
And also what the Black Lives Matter Movement means for a country like the United Kingdom that has its own set of specific problems, but that also
has, just like the United States has some issues with over representation with discriminatory practices against black and minority people. Certainly
more black and minority people are arrested than white people. And we are going to talk about that hopefully, a little bit later.
We'll take a quick break. We'll be right back. Stay with CNN.
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GORANI: South Korea says it will no longer endure North Korea senseless comments and actions. The warning comes one day after North Korea blew up
the Joint Liaison Office between the two countries. South Korea's Unification Minister has offered to resign, saying he bears responsibility
for those worsening relations. Will Ripley has more.
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WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A building that symbolized peace between North and South Korea reduced to a pile of rubble. North Korea blew up the
inter-Korean Liaison Office Tuesday, the black plume visible for miles. Both Korea's shared that building just north of the DMZ, it was supposed to
be a neutral place to communicate. Not far from Panmunjom, with the latest round of Korean diplomacy began more than two years ago. All those promises
of a new era of peace now up in smoke.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At 2:50 pm on June 16, the liaison office was tragically ruined with a terrific explosion.
RIPLEY: North Korea calls the blast retaliation for propaganda leaflets dropped from balloons by South Korean activists. Analysts suspect Pyongyang
has grown tired of waiting for sanctions to be lifted, tired of waiting for a reward for coming out of its shell. Remember those three face to face
meetings between Chairman Kim Jong-un and President Donald Trump.
DUYEON KIM, SENIOR ADVISER, CRISIS GROUP: Pyongyang is coercing Seoul to live up to its commitments to try to move Washington to lift sanctions.
RIPLEY: The face of this latest escalation has not been Kim himself, but his increasingly powerful younger sister, Kim Yo Jong rising to prominence
with her brother largely absent from public view, just a handful of appearances in the last three months. Nobody knows for sure why Kim seems
to be laying low, but analysts point to his sister as a rising figure in the North Korean leadership. For years, she's been a quiet presence by her
brother side, one of his most trusted advisors now being built up by North Korea's propaganda machine.
Kim Yo Jong has already been blacklisted by the U.S. accused of severe human rights violations and recently promoted to central party leadership.
This week, Kim Yo Jong took aim at North Korean defectors in South Korea. She calls them human scum and says the south by harboring them is
committing an act of war. North Korea also cut off all communication with the south and warned of military action.
A new face perhaps but a familiar message from the north. Bringing the Korean Peninsula right back to where it was before this latest taunt with
tensions rising yet again. Will Ripley, CNN.
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GORANI: Well, we've been talking about areas where there are spikes in COVID cases. And in Russia, that country has reached well over half a
million cases and rising but the country's leader Vladimir Putin has found a unique way to protect himself from the virus. Here's Matthew Chance.
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MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Russia may be lifting the lockdown on its cities, but extraordinary steps are still being
taken to shield its President Vladimir Putin from the coronavirus, a special disinfection tunnel has been installed his official residence
outside Moscow which visitors must pass through when they enter the grounds demonstration footage on state media shows people in masks being sprayed
from the ceiling and from the sides with a liquid that's described as a fine cloud of disinfectant that covers cloths and exposed upper body flesh.
There's no indication of how effective the Russian paid device is. But again, it gives us insight into the steps being taken to protect the leader
of a country with more than half a million coronavirus cases. Matthew Chance, CNN.
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GORANI: If you are a pet owner, you must listen to this warning from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: At this time, the risk of pet spreading the virus that causes COVID-19 and people is considered low. But it does appear that
people can give the virus to animals, with preliminary research showing that cats and ferrets are more likely to get the virus than dogs.
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GORANI: That is great. The video message goes on to say it's best to avoid dog parks and other crowded public places and pet owners should follow the
six foot rule even for leashed pets. The CDC confirms that a small number of cats and dogs did get infected with the virus but only after they came
in contact with people who had COVID-19.
The coronavirus sent the Premier League into lockdown for 100 days but today it's back these two managers were directly impacted. By COVID-19
they'll go head to head and Manchester later and we are there for you live as well.
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GORANI: Football fans are celebrating the return of the Premier League today. Not that any of them will be able to see the games live. The
coronavirus means they're going to have to watch the action on television. Like most people, Don Riddell can tell us what to expect. Hi, Don.
DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORT CORRESPONDENT: Hi Hala, thanks very much. You know, it has been 100 days exactly since we last watch the game of football
in the Premier League and when the action resumes again in just over a couple of hours time there will be visible reminders of how much the world
has changed.
In that time, all of the player shirts will have an NHS logo on the front. That is in recognition of the dedication and sacrifice of the health
service workers tackling the coronavirus. And every shirt will also have black lives matter in support of global calls for an end to racial
injustice.
There are going to be two games played today. First up Aston Villa are at home to Sheffield United there won't be any fans inside the stadium. Villa
by the way, have urged their supporters not together outside the stadium. And then at 8:15pm local time it is the defending champions Manchester City
against Arsenal.
Covering these games for us will be World Sports Alex Thomas who's outside the Etihad Stadium in Manchester and our contributor Darren Lewis from
London.
Alex, let's start with you. I imagine this must be the most unusual game that you have ever covered so, I won't ask about the atmosphere because
there probably isn't any but how does it feel to be there?
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ALEX THOMAS, CNN WORLD SPORT: Yeah, we still more than four and a half hours away from kick-off. So it's perhaps no quieter than it would be on a
normal game day Don, especially for weekday game when people would have to wait until they get out of work before congregating. But certainly in the
hours ahead, I don't expect to get any busier because instead of 55,000 people in the Etihad Stadium behind me Premier League official told us,
there'll be only 300 for obvious reasons connected to the coronavirus crisis.
We're actually in the green zone part of the perimeter established to make it as safe as possible for all those players and match officials and
coaches that will go inside and the few journalists that are allowed to as well. Remember its way back in March when the Premier League was suspended
because of the COVID-19 crisis.
As your Friday the 13th no lesson it's been a horror show for the Premier League trying to negotiate with clubs, with players unions having to wait
for the U.K. government that didn't give their go ahead for the season to resume until June even though players and coaches have been tested twice a
week since exactly a month ago today, in fact, so 92 matches still to go, two on this opening day of resumption as you've outlined including the
reigning premier league champions Manchester City clinging to their title even though it seems Liverpool are shorter take it. And the city boss Pep
Guardiola has admitted that's really they're just not up to season's fitness just yet.
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PEP GUARDIOLA, MANCHESTER CITY MANAGER: I think we are ready to play one game by three days after another one and for this that's another one. We
have not really not I think Man City and all teams and in Germany or in Spain that they work five to six weeks. With all the teams in the Premier
League they have just maybe through week, three the hub. Of course we know is not enough that is what it is.
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THOMAS: You imagine the players will get fit pretty quickly Don, because there's going to be games almost every day we'll see now and that final
Sunday at the end of July when the Premier League season should finally finish.
RIDDELL: Darren the most attractive game today is the second game Man City and Arsenal two clubs, would you believe that have been directly impacted
by COVID-19? How so?
DARREN LEWIS, CNN WORLD SPORT CONTRIBUTOR: Well, it's very sad very, because it's kind of odd to the city boss, to the manager about a second
ago lost his brother during the coronavirus outbreak. And of course, as we know, we asked him possibly collateral was the one who's positive test spot
the shutdown of the Premier League in the U.K. during that second week of March.
So it's going to be a match which really is everyone watching will understand what it means to both clubs to both sets of players, as neither
side can express concerns about having to play while people are still suffering and dying from the coronavirus So they will be very much a
subplot is much of a psychological burden in some respects. The football leagues comes very much come second, Don.
RIDDELL: Darren, I want to get your take on what kind of quality of football we think we're going to see because the players have had 100 days
off, which has been a tremendous break. The Premier League football and European football is very rigorous for these players. Some players like
Harry Kane have been able to recover from injury, meaning they can still play this season when they would have had to write it off had it actually
finished in May, as it should have done so what kind of standard of play do you think we can expect to see?
LEWIS: It's good question because a lot of the players had complained to the Premier League that the break that they've had was too short and they
wanted a longer break to be able to ensure that players coming back would not be suffering injuries like we've seen in for example, the German
Bundesliga.
As I was saying a second ago, however, it's more of a psychological burden that I think some of the players will be carrying with because a great deal
of them had been expressing their fears about coming back, and they had been worried that maybe they would pick things up that would not
necessarily affect them as individuals, but their loved ones, their families, their parents, their children.
So there was all of that as a kind of subtext to all of this. And I think it will be a very, very tentative start these two the first of 92 league
games, which are going to be squeezed into a frantic 14 days before the season concludes on 26 July, but the first games they'll be the ones that
everyone will have an eye on to see whether these first steps into a brave new world are ones that will ensure that the EPL session gets completed.
RIDDELL: Yeah, Alex, of course, there was never any guarantee that the Premier League was going to return you only have to look at what happened
in Scotland, France, Holland, where those seasons never resumed. I guess the Bundesliga lead the way with a successful return last month, what is
the Premier League and the 20 clubs and the hundreds of players had to do? What kind of hoops if they had to jump through to get to a point today
where I guess they all feel to be safe enough to return to action?
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THOMAS: Yeah, because it could have gone either way, Don. And I think ultimately there was an economic factor at play here as well. The prospect
of hundreds of millions of dollars of TV money, even billions of dollars having to be repaid and also possibly footballers having to take a wage
cuts as well. So they wanted to get this season finished, not least because it would have had this tricky thing about Liverpool or just two wins away
from the title having not won it for 30 years when last they want it.
They were the most successful club in English football before Manchester United under Alex Ferguson overtook them in terms of total numbers of
titles, but there's obviously extra sterilization and sanitization measures particularly for the players from the moment they get off the team coach
and to the staging get to the dressing rooms, but some special measures as well, to stop the players being dangerous each other they're being tested
twice a week as I mentioned earlier, but there's no handshakes allowed. No spitting on the pitch that we often see as well.
No surrounding the referee if you don't like a decision, and obviously socially distance goal celebrations be interesting to say some of those
habits are hard to break.
Darren very eloquently explained why someone like Pep Guardiola knows that football has had to take a backseat. And the other thing to look out for is
if there are any black lives matter celebrations, any players taking a knee and the game here later, the Premier League's made it clear, they will
celebrate that and they won't penalize the player involved, Don.
RIDDELL: Yeah, quite right. We saw that in several games already in Germany and in Spain of the weekend. Marcello taking any and raising his fist in
support of the Black Lives Matter movement.
Darren and Alex thanks to you both. We'll continue this conversation in the next hour as we continue to build up to the return of the Premier League.
And by the way, we've just heard that the Champions League finals will be played in August in Lisbon, Portugal. That is a change from Istanbul, which
should have been the 2020 hosts. The last eight teams in the competition will play a mini tournament in Lisbon before the final on August the 23rd.
Looking forward to that, Hala back to you.
GORANI: All right. How excited are you, Don?
RIDDELL: I'm very excited.
GORANI: Today is the day.
RIDDELL: I'm also back in the television studio for the first time in three months, so that's pretty exciting, too.
GORANI: Well, there you go. It's all happening on the same day. Thanks very much, Don Riddell. Much more ahead after break.
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