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Colorado Authorities Identify 10 Victims Of Mass Shooting; Boulder Police Give Update On Mass Shooting; Houthis: Blockade Needs To Be Lifted Before Peace Talks Happen; Voting Underway In The 4th Election In 2 Years; Empathy, Grief On Minds Of Colorado Team; Zlatan Takes Tearful Return To Sweden Squad. Aired 11a-12p ET

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We'll now take a few questions.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: --that you see in the video that was shot from the helicopter yesterday afternoon be escorted out by two officers with a

bloody like. Is that the suspect of this video?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We'll be releasing a photo of the suspect.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you tell us at all if anything about these suspects' injuries in the hospital?

CHIEF MARIS HEROLD, BOULDER, COLORADO POLICE DEPARTMENT: He suffered a leg wound was drilling through wound to his leg notable section of his leg--

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is that from one of your officers, firefighters?

HEROLD: We're not sure at this time.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: --law enforcement?

HEROLD: Not that I know off.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have investigators been able to speak with the suspect yet and if so had they provided a motive?

HEROLD: No, no motive at this time.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have they spoken to him?

HEROLD: I think it's in the press release. But--

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have investigators spoken with him.

HEROLD: At this time, investigators have spoken with him. And I would like Michael Dougherty, who's running that section of the investigation.

MICHAEL DOUGHERTY, BOULDER COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY: I do want to stress we're in the very early stages of the investigation. The arrest affidavit

and warrant is going to be released later today once he's booked into Boulder County Jail. And we're doing that to provide as much information as

we can as soon as we can.

In terms of statements that he may have made to investigators first, I want to stress that he's innocent unless and until proven guilty, of course, as

we do in every case but more importantly to your question. We're collecting those statements now. We'll be providing those in the weeks ahead. I don't

have a list of the statements he's made up to this point. And the investigation is still in the very early stages.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do they--

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible)

DOUGHERTY: His name and his - the community in which he lived this included in the press release? And yes, it was Arvada. I know that there's an

extensive investigation just getting underway into his background. He's lived most of his life in the United States. And beyond that we're still in

the very early stages of the investigation.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You mentioned that the community is safe. Do you know was he working alone? Was he the only suspect?

DOUGHERTY: At this time we fully believe we're very confident that the community is safe. And that he - I'm sorry, just one second, and that he

was the only person involved? Obviously, it's early in the investigation. We're going to continue to run down every lead.

I will just briefly say I'm glad you asked that question. There was a name going around social media and the media yesterday, you will recognize that

it's not the individual who's been charged, we don't believe there was any connection whatsoever between those two individuals.

So to the extent that was reported on in the media and social media, I think people are doing their best to get information out but he does not

appear to be connected to this at all.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This question is for the Chief. It seems that you know, in describing the names of what - this wasn't just your work today that

this was personally very difficult - can you describe what emotions are you going through right now?

HEROLD: No, it's hard. It's challenging. I live three blocks up the street from that store. You're worried about your neighbors, you're worried about

your partner, and you're worried about everything when you get that call.

And so yes, I feel numb. And it's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking to talk to victims, the families. You know, it's tragic. This officer had seven

children, ages five to 18. I just had that officers' whole family in my office two weeks ago to give him an award.

And so it is personal. This is my community. I live here and have something like this happen. So, so close to where you live in and to know the fear in

the community and to know that the officers sacrifice themselves. It's heartbreaking.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible)

HEROLD: Yes, I can tell you that he's a very kind man. And he didn't have to go into policing. He had a profession before this. But he felt a higher

calling. And he loved this community. And he's everything that policing deserves and needs. He cared about this community. He cared about boulder

police department. He cared about his family. And he was willing to die to protect others and that gets lost in translation.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible)

HEROLD: I don't know all the details at this time, all we can tell you are I've spoken to some of their families. And I can just tell you that they're

heartbroken. And this is the worst call you could ever receive as a family member.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Some of them are--

HEROLD: Not that we know of. We've checked with CIO and this time we do not believe, obviously, preliminary information. But at this time, we do not

believe any resistance.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: --police call came in and what action was taken after that?

HEROLD: I am not - I just know we started receiving calls for service at 2:30 pm. And obviously, we received a barrage of calls for service for

shots fired. And I believe we received one call with a man with some type of patrol rifle. And they came in back to back to back.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: --the officer--

HEROLD: Yes, actually the award was for Officer Tally's son. Officer Talley type CPR, we taught his family CPR. And Officers Talley one of his sons

swallowed a quarter. Because Officer Talley taught his children CPR, one of the sons was able to save the little boy's life. And so the Boulder Police

Department just gave the son an award for life saving.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Chief, I can't imagine going through - department, you're fellow officers just in shock. But what do you tell your officers,

you're going out today for another day --?

HEROLD: All my officers are doubled up. And thanks to the state, all of the local authorities that are here have offered to run calls of service for

us. And none of my officers wanted to do that. So we partner them up. And they want to be out with community.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible)

HEROLD: We're telling that I'm sorry. We're going to get through this. Don't lose your compassion. And we'll get through this and we'll come out

of it stronger.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you talk more about Officer Tally yesterday.

DOUGHERTY: So I think we're almost going - we're about to wrap up questions. And just to fill in for one of the questions that were asked.

Chief Herold met with some of the victim families last night. Other victim families were notified by other members of the Boulder Police Department

and the Coroner's Office about those notifications are completed as reflected in the press release at around four o'clock in the morning.

You asked about how officers are doing? And someone had asked about the mood amongst the investigators? I would describe it as very determined, and

much focused. There's a lot of work to be done. So we have local state and federal law enforcement inside this building and at the crime scene and at

different locations throughout the metro area working on this case right now.

So to answer your question, I would say the group is very focused on the work that is going to be done. We recognize the trauma that's been

inflicted upon the victims' families and also upon our community. And that is going to drive us to do everything we need to do to see this case the

right result. So I'm going to turn it over to Deon (ph).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible);

DOUGHERTY: So some of that information is going to be contained in the arrest affidavit that's coming out later today. Some of those details still

need to be nailed down. So I'm going to hold off on that. And after the arrest affidavit comes out, if you have additional questions about it, you

can let me know, or let Deon know actually, if you don't mind.

But that's still in the early stages; the crime scene is being processed thanks to the Evidence Recovery Team of the FBI. I mean, they are the best

of the best. So they're going to be at the King - I anticipate for the next couple of days and we'll continue to have updates about the crime scene,

the investigation and the prosecution of the individual who's wholly responsible for the 10 victims who were killed.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible)

DOUGHERTY: I anticipate that the suspect will be released from the hospital today. Obviously, that's based on what his doctors are saying. So that

could change of course, but if he is released today, he'll be transported to the Boulder County Jail, booked into the jail and then the affidavit of

warrant will be available to all of you. I'm going to turn it back over to Deon. But I really do appreciate all of you being here today. Thank you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We appreciate all the questions. This is all the time we have for the questions this morning. Thank you everyone for coming. We

will continue to have updates. I'm going to send out this press release to everyone.

BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST: Well, seemingly incomprehensible, senseless loss is how the Governor of Colorado described the murder of 10 people in a mass

shooting in a grocery store in Boulder on Monday.

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The victims whose ages range from 20 years old to 65 all now identify their names read out by the Chief of the city's police force. The suspect is 21

from Nevada charged with 10 counts of murder in the first degree. Police did not reveal a motive for the shooting the Governor promising to in his

words bring the evildoer to justice.

Well, Ryan Borowski was in the supermarket buying a soda and some chips when the shooting broke out. He joins us now from Skype - on Skype from

Boulder and I'm so sorry that you've had to experience this. Walk us through what happened if you will.

RYAN BOROWSKI, COLORADO SUPERMARKET SHOOTING WITNESS: Pretty simple. Just randomly at a grocery store I don't usually shop at the other side of town.

Went in for a soda I thought about buying some ice cream, which would have been on the east side of the store changed my mind grabbed some potato

chips instead.

And shortly after that decision was made. The shooting started on the side of the store where I would have been walked into. As soon as I heard the

first shot it seemed like everything went silent. Everybody was quiet confused hoping it was just somebody dropped something.

Second shot happened so a terrified woman running towards me and I turned and ran with her towards the back of the store while hearing a series of

shots fire after that. I think I might have heard eight shots total could have been more.

ANDERSON: How are you feeling at the moment?

BOROWSKI: Comes and goes in waves. I just told a friend that I've been saving my tears for in between the interviews. A lot of people have been

reaching out people who I've known for a long time people don't really know that well and just expressing a lot of support and wishes to comfort me and

it feels good to you know be surrounded by so much love and care.

ANDERSON: Just stay with me for one moment because I just want to return to the press conference just for a moment where they are giving more

information on the victims. Just stand by for me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: --print out more of these. I can just email all of them to you. But that is all the questions we can take this morning. We

will hope to have another update later today. We will post that information on Twitter as soon as we know.

So do you want to spell the names? Alright, the suspect Ahmed A-H-M-A-D A-L and the next word A-L-I-W-I last name A-L-I-S-S-A. I do not know. I know

that we have a local address in Arvada. And he's 21 years of age.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 21. Victim names Danny Strong. D is in David E-N-N-Y Strong, S-T-R-O-N-G. H e was 20 years old. Nevin Stanisic first name N is a

Nathan, E V is in Victor E N is a Nathan. Last name S is in Sam, T is in Tom A-N is in Nathan I-S is in Sam I-C 23 Rikki Olds R-I-K-K-I Olds O-L-D-S

25. Tralona Bartkowiak T-R-A-L-N-A last name B-A-R-T-KOWIAK B is in boy 49.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Suzanne Fountain S-U-Z-A-N-N-E Fountain F-O-U-N-T-A-I- N 59. Terry Leiker, T-E-R-I last name L-E-I-K-E-R 51 Eric Tally E-R-I-C T- A-L-L-E-Y 51. Kevin Mahoney, K-E-V-I-N M-A-H-O-N-E-Y 61 Lynn Murray L-Y-N-N M-U-R-R-A-Y 62 Jody Waters J-O-D-Y W-A-T-E-R-S 65.

And again, we have assigned a PIO liaison to each of these families, please respect their privacy, the liaison will let you know if they are interested

in speaking with any of you. Please receive--

ANDERSON: You've just the names of the victims of this mass shooting whose ages ranged from - ages range from 20 to 65 years old. I'm speaking with

Ryan Borowski who was in the supermarket at the time when the shooting broke out. And Ryan, we've just listened to the victims' names and their

ages. This is clearly so raw for you. But what's going through your mind as you hear those names released?

BOROWSKI: Something very different than the beginning of this interview. I already feel that it's dragging. I mean, my name could have just been read.

And I wouldn't have been around to hear it, my wife would have. And I can't imagine the grief that everybody's going through. And I'm glad that I

spared my wife, that sorrow by running out of there.

ANDERSON: What need to happen next sir?

BOROWSKI: There needs to be some honest conversation. Not even just conversation about having honest conversations. Like actually things need

to be sad things need to be done? I'm not a politician, I don't know, all the regulations that can be passed. But I know there are some simple ones.

I know you can't just take all the guns out of American hands overnight. And I know you can't even hope to pass any regulations. But there have to

be some simple ones that are passed to make it more difficult for mentally disturbed people to possess, to purchase and to use firearms.

And in addition to whatever the government can do, which ultimately isn't much. I feel like there needs to be a campaign spoken to the individuals'

public service announcement that people need to take responsibility for their own health, physical and mental.

You can't have the government regulating all of your safety; it's never going to be that way. It has to come down to individuals taking care of

their physical health, especially in a time of pandemic and taking care of their mental health, especially in a time of lockdown pandemic because a

broken mind is more dangerous than any weapon.

ANDERSON: Ryan, we really appreciate you talking to us today. And I'm sure what you really want to do is spend time with your own family. So please,

go and do that. Thank you so much for joining us.

BOROWSKI: Thanks.

ANDERSON: I'm so sorry. Ryan Borowski who was at the store Monday where a mass shooting took the lives of 10 people in Boulder, Colorado, sadly this

tragedy is far from unique. It is the seventh mass shooting in the U.S. in the past week alone and it is putting new focus on the issue of gun control

there.

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ANDERSON: We'll take a short break back after this.

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ANDERSON: Israeli voters may be feeling a bit of deja vu today at this hour. They are voting in the fourth election in less than two years in the

race to 61 seats opinion polls put Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ahead of the pack but by not much so that could mean the smaller parties turn out

to be the kingmakers in this election the Prime Minister's pitch to get that working majority new relations with Arab countries and vaccinating

more than half the country for Coronavirus.

Well, Hadas Gold has been covering the campaign joining us now from a special polling station in Jerusalem set up for people in quarantine. And

what's the turnout been like today, firstly Hadas?

HADAS GOLD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well Becky, we did actually just get numbers again from the Central Elections Committee and the numbers are down. And as

of right now, they are for this hour lower than lowest since 2009 of course, that could change. We still have a few more hours of polling being

open.

The weather today we've seen a dust storm that could be affecting people come out. But it is a lower turnout so far, not by a lot but by a little

bit about four or 4 percent is the latest number. We saw it lower turnout then than the previous election perhaps that is awareness from the Israeli

public. This is the fourth of election in under two years sometimes hard to believe how often now Israelis haven't gone to the polls.

But those that are going to the polls the question for them really at the ballot box though there are many parties to choose from. It's whether they

are for Netanyahu or against him. And this campaign, unlike the others that have been dominated by people like Donald Trump and Netanyahu, his

relationship with him.

This campaign has been a lot about the Coronavirus, and, of course, the economy here and how that's been affected. Now, Netanyahu is trying to

stake his campaign on the successful and rapid rollout of the vaccines that has brought a sense of normalcy almost back to the Israeli streets.

He's also highlighting normalization relationships with Arab countries even tweeting out a video today about promising direct flights for Israeli

Muslims from Tel Aviv to Mecca. But as you noted, the most recent polls show that even though his Likud Party is ahead, he may not have enough of a

coalition of the numbers.

Even with the coalition, the parties that have already agreed to sit with him to get him over that 61 seat majority. It will be those smaller

parties, those parties who may only get a handful of seats, maybe 10, who will actually perhaps end up being the kingmakers because it's who they

decide possibly to sit with or even if they make it into the parliament that can make the difference tonight.

ANDERSON: Yes, fascinating times Hadas thank you Hadas Gold on the ground in Jerusalem for us. Well, just a few minutes from now I'll be speaking to

Israel's Former UN Ambassador get his sense of where we are at and where we go from here?

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ANDERSON: Well, Houthi rebels' so far rejecting Saudi Arabia's new UN backed proposal to end Yemen's six year war, the Iranian backed rebels

swiftly saying the plan provided nothing new. Vice Minister for Foreign Affairs, then telling CNN the Saudi blockade needed to be lifted first

before they would agree to peace talks or despite talk of a ceasefire on the same day Riyadh made the proposal.

The Saudi led coalition unleashed dozens of airstrikes against what it called Houthi military targets in northern Yemen. Well, this proposal

follows a recent CNN investigation which revealed that not a single oil tanker has been able to dock in the Houthi control port over data this

year, because of the Saudi blockade.

CNN's Nima Elbagir has been in Yemen recently reporting and she joins me now. Nema, the Saudi Foreign Minister has said this initiative will take

effect as soon as the Houthis agree to it. It isn't entirely new, it has to be said. But it certainly suggests that the Saudis at least in principle

want to see it end to this six year conflict. Question is, at this point, will the Houthis agree particularly given their recent gains on the ground?

NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it is not new, Becky, but it is. It is definitely a new perspective on this conflict from

the Saudis since the Stockholm Agreement failed a year ago, only a year after its signing, both Saudi Arabia and - the Houthi movement have been

pretty intransigent about their positions.

So for Saudi Arabia to put forward this proposal so soon after a similar UN - U.S. proposal, sorry, was shut down by the Houthis speaks to perhaps

Saudi Arabia, feeling the pressure around that blockade after our investigation, the Head of the WFP David Beasley, the UN Envoy to Yemen,

Martin Griffiths, all came out and said that the blockade fundamentally the fuel blockade was unacceptable.

So it does feel like there is a new urgency in this conflict, but only from the Saudi perspective to try and find some sort of resolution. We're not

there yet. But it feels like a different tone, Becky.

ANDERSON: And as we've been reporting, the Houthis saying, you know, no ceasefire, no peace talks until this blockade is lifted. And that continues

to be their position, correct?

GOLD: Yes, and it has been their position throughout in both those positions really give you a sense as to what each side sees at its - as its

strongest weapon. For the Saudis they're offering a ceasefire, because they know that they're, you know they're superior aerial ability, the

bombardment; the strikes that they're able to carry out are kind of exploit the Houthi weaknesses.

And the Houthis know that although they desperately want that blockade lifted, their games in Marib would be eaten away by a ceasefire. And they

know that that is what is troubling Saudi Arabia most at the moment, but at the very least, even having this back and forth.

Even just having the fact of negotiations back in their discourse has made a lot of people feel slightly optimistic, not fully optimistic, but at

least there is a sense that after six long years, perhaps the two sides are getting a little bit closer to figuring out what could end this Becky.

ANDERSON: Absolutely. Nima, thank you. You're watching "Connect the World" we will be right back after this.

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ANDERSON: Not even the pandemic could keep these Israeli voters from the polls. It's a ritual they have performed four times now in the last two

years. You can thank failed coalitions and bickering between the parties for this chronic political deadlock, since none of the parties in this

election will likely get the 61 seats needed to form a government.

The smaller parties find themselves once again as the kingmakers. Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu hopes to be that King, you'll likely be the

top vote getter, but that may not be enough for him to keep the crown. Well, we're joined now by Ambassador Danny Danon. He was formally Israel's

Permanent Representative to the United Nations; it's good to have you with us sir.

Fourth election in two years, neither Prime Minister Netanyahu nor his various opponents has been able to build what is a durable parliamentary

majority. And over that period of time, what is this semi permanent state chronic state of deadlock, say about the state of Israel about its

democracy today? And are you confident this vote will finally return a stable government?

DANNY DANON, FORMER ISRAELI PERMENANT REPRESENTATIVE TO THE UN: I definitely hope so, Becky, it sounds crazy, four cycles within two years.

But still, it is the best system we have with democracy in action. And I hope that today, very few will choose the right leadership to form a stable

government.

The last thing we did today is fifth selections. But according to the polls, it's going to be very, very close. I believe the prime minister has

very good prospects to form a majority government, but it will be a narrow coalition, it will be very hard for him to govern for the next few years.

ANDERSON: Correct. He has long portrayed himself, of course, as the only leader capable of protecting Israel's security interests. Today, opinion

polls show he is one of the most divisive figures in Israeli politics.

And let's remind ourselves if he loses this election, he does face the very real possibility of prison time over fraud and bribery charges. So should

that be the way that the case against him goes? Is it not time for fresh blood in Israeli politics? That's what a lot of people will be asking.

DANON: Well, that what they - we'll have to decide. They will have to decide who will deal with the threat coming for Iran. And I think on that

point, with the concerns of the Prime Minister Netanyahu will be the best candidate with experience and global connections.

The second issue is the COVID, a post COVID recovery of the economy. And like you mentioned, Prime Minister Netanyahu has been in office for 15

years, and many people are not happy about it. But that's for the public to decide today the outcome.

If I want to guess I believe that the right wing party, the conservative parties will have an overwhelming majority today in the parliament, but

some of them are not willing to sit down with Netanyahu. So it's not about policies regarding Iran, economic, it's more about personality. Some of

them said it's more than enough; we needed to form a new coalition. But still, I think the majority of these vary to stand behind the prime

minister.

ANDERSON: Critics say he and Likud are legitimizing racism, xenophobia and homophobic politics in Israel in order to cling on to power. This sir is

your party what message would the potential coalition which might speak - many will say - many critics will say to all of the above, what message

would that send to Israelis and about Israel?

DANON: That's completely false. You know, we have a strong party. We have different voices. We have one of my good friend is a minister - as well, so

the Likud Party is not what you describe? Yes, there is some criticism. It's legitimate to criticize when you have elections, you want to take

votes.

But the liquidity is a liberal movement and we allow different voices. We allow Israelis to be part of the party. So I don't accept that the

description would you describe the party in multi threaded would not accept it.

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ANDERSON: The description has been used by many who look to the coalition that's what my point the potential coalition partners that Benjamin

Netanyahu might need. Should he be asked to form a government and be able to do sir?

DANON: On that point, I agree with you, Becky. I think the interest of evil is not to have a narrow government when you have 61 votes. And actually

everyone is the kingmaker, and everyone can blackmail the prime minister every morning. I think the best thing for the prime minister is to form a

wider government.

And I hope that some of the leaders who declare this morning that they will not join Netanyahu maybe after we will publish the results within a few

hours, they will decide for the better of Israel, they will put personnel issues aside and will join forces would be good.

ANDERSON: I just wonder finally and very briefly, it seems that he, Benjamin Netanyahu's got into very hot water with the UAE where Iran of

late with the Jordanians of late. I wonder, does he portrays himself as a as a Middle East Peacemaker. And as a man who can deal with Arab countries

around this region. Is he really that as he missteps around the region?

DANON: Absolutely. You know, I have many friends in the Gulf, and I've spoken with him in the last few hours. We have a strong bond. I'm sure the

prime minister will visit the UAE right after the elections. And let's not forget, he signed and led the agreement with the UAE, Bahrain, Morocco and

Sudan there are a few more countries that I believe in the near future will join the club of peace.

It will be with the next prime minister, whether it will be Netanyahu or not, we will have to wait for a few hours.

ANDERSON: Danny Danon it's good to have you on sir. Come back and join us again once we find out who indeed will lead Israel going forward that of

course maybe some weeks thank you sir. So we're taking a short break back after this is your.

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ANDERSON: Today the UK is marking one year since the first COVID 19 stay at home order. It's a day of reflection for the tens of thousands of lives

that have been lost to this devastating pandemic. Here is my colleague Phil Black.

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PHIL BLACK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): This is a small moment in an extraordinary time. One day of reflection. One minute of silence. A

desperately insufficient window for considering all that's changed and all that's been lost but we within the pandemic script, this is a rare

collective moment to pause and remember to try to understand how it came to this?

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This one year since the unthinkable became the everyday, one year since British life with its vibrant energy, its wealth of shared joys and

experiences, was stripped back to something unrecognizable far poorer, disconnected, lonely.

A year of knowing death is all around a relentless numbers failing to convey the glut of loss and suffering behind them. A time of grief, where

the rituals of grieving are twisted and stretched the comfort of togetherness forbidden, was simply beyond rich.

Like so many essential human experiences the sorrow of mourning is now often shared and processed through images on a screen. A year of COVID-19

renewed Britain's love for its health service, and those who risked their lives preventing its collapse, whose faces show the strain of long

exhausting shifts, working to save others.

Better long year, it started with publicly celebrating their efforts on doorsteps every week has evolved into a quiet acceptance or worse, an

expectation they will keep doing whatever is necessary regardless of the cause.

Other workers are rarely considered in normal times have also found some appreciation for their vital roles and the risks of carrying them out

during a pandemic while the virus has become another force, exposing in grained inequalities through its disproportionate impact on people of

color.

After one year, everyone knows the suffering imposed by the pandemic is not equal. But everyone has suffered and lost something. We've lost time,

especially time together opportunities to celebrate and feel joy, jobs, businesses education. Psychotherapist Julia Samuel describes them as living

losses.

JULIA SAMUEL, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: That you feel frightened, you feel furious, you feel numb, you feel confused. You feel in denial, you feel all the

different things and you can feel them all at the same time. And yet you look out the window nothing's changed.

BLACK (voice over): Britain's year of COVID is only one chapter in a global saga of incomprehensible change and pain that is still being written. One

day of reflection is utterly inadequate. But it's a start. Phil Black, CNN Essex, England.

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ANDERSON: Wherever you're watching the world, I'm pretty sure that is likely to resonate. Colin Allred, in many ways is an American hero. He

spent five years with the NFL and is now using his team sports background as a U.S. lawmaker fighting to save democracy itself. Don Riddell with us

Don, you have a powerful interview with Colin Allred at World Sport, what did he say?

DON RIDDELL, CNN WORLD SPORT: Hey Becky thanks. So you know, he said a lot, a lot specifically about what it was like being in the Capitol building on

January the 6th and the evening after that when they certified the results of the presidential election.

But it was really, really interesting hearing him talk about his experience as a professional athlete and how that has helped him now as a politician,

especially in these hyper partisan times. And he said something which really struck me. He said, all lawmakers should have a background or some

experience of team sports because that is how you learn to get along with people.

People you don't necessarily like and you're still able to get towards a common goal and certainly in the United States at the moment that seems to

be sorely lacking.

ANDERSON: Yes, absolutely looking forward to that. That's after this short break with Don and World Sport from us. It is a very good evening.

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