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Websites And Apps Go Dark Around The World; U.S. Vice President Meets With Mexico's President; Confidence Vote For New Israeli Govt Set For Sunday. Aired 11a-12p ET

Aired June 08, 2021 - 11:00   ET



ANNOUNCER: Live from CNN, London, this is Connect The World.

ISA SOARES, CNN HOST: For today, the world is asking what broke the internet. I'm Isa Soares, hello and a very warm welcome to the second hour

of Connect The World. Well, if you heard a collective gasp right around the world earlier, we have the reason.

Multiple high traffic major web sites went down for about an hour after content delivery network had a widespread failure. Well, that company

Fastly says it identified and fixed the problem. And among the affected sites, CNN, The Guardian, Amazon, Target, and the UK Government. Anna

Stewart joins us now with the details of the outage.

And Amanda and Amanda - and Anna apologies, I was the person - I was one of those people that gasped when that happened. I was like, am I doing

something wrong? And I'm not very tech savvy. So what exactly happened here? What caused this?

ANNA STEWART, CNN REPORTER: Isa, you weren't alone, I got a call from our boss saying the internet had broken. It was a big concern. I think

everyone's first worries were this was a result of some sort of cyber or ransomware attack, it was short lived, it was actually purely an error at

Fastly, a company that many people would never have heard of.

It is a content delivery network, a CDN. There are a few of them in the world, including Amazon, Microsoft and a few others. And there was some

sort of issue. So all the websites that use this company were down. And effectively what it does, the CDN, it has a whole network of servers around

the world.

And so a user of one of these websites will have a server nearer to them, meaning that websites load really fast. So you get CNN wherever you are in

the world, we hope really fast but not this morning as a result of this error. They did identify it, they say it is fixed. And many websites or

most websites are back up and running as usual user, Isa?

SOARES: And I suspect Anna, what it does, it makes us really question the infrastructure of the internet, because it's very and correct me if I'm

wrong, it's in the hands of very, very few companies.

STEWART: That's it. The internet is relying heavily on a few very large companies. And most of the time, of course, they work just as they should.

And we're talking about Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Fastly is one, Cloudflare is another one, you may not have heard or but there are quite a

few. And all these different websites all around the world rely on them.

And this is not the first web outage of this sort that has happened. We've had issues fairly recently with Amazon Web Services, and also with

Cloudflare. And that just goes to show that there's some fragility here. And then there's really a centralization really of these CDNs, not that

many of them, the whole internet relies on them.

It doesn't take too much for it to break and to have a collective world gasp as it looks like the Internet has broken, back up and running now

though. Isa.

SOARES: Yes, thank goodness. Let's talk more about this fragility. Anna, thank you very much, great to see you. While this outages Anna was saying

only lasted really an hour or so it illustrates really the fragility of the internet and just how much we depend on it.

Let's get some perspective from CNN law enforcement analyst Anthony Ferrante, who is also Global Head of cyber security at AFT consulting.

Great to see you, Anthony. This is happening more and more. You know, Anna spoke about this fragility, we saw it happen before with Cloudflare, Amazon

Web Services. What does this tell you about the internet infrastructure, the internet ecosystem we have in place?

ANTHONY FERRANTE, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Well, you know, I think it's really interesting. Anna spoke and she said she woke up this morning and

she gasped, you know, ironically, it's actually not the first time this has happened over the last 10 or 15 years. I have lived and worked in this

space, my entire professional career.

And I can look back and think about a few times where this is actually happened. But rest assured, the internet did not break. OK? The internet,

as it was designed by the United States Department of Defense is a vast interconnection of computers, distributed and diversified to allow

governments to communicate in the event of a nuclear war.

And rest assured, this morning, the internet did not break. What happened - What happened were services on the internet became unavailable. Now it is

unknown why they became unavailable. And as I said earlier, it's not the first time this has happened.

I remember when I was at the White House in the Obama administration in 2016, where this actually happened three to four times during the course of

a single day. And I assure you during those outages in 2016, there were many within the U.S. government really concerned why this was happening and

how this was happening.

And I remember then, just like today, we learned that it was a misconfiguration of computer systems. Now what exactly does that mean? We

don't know. I think this deserves an independent investigation, a review, how did this happen? Why did this happen? And of course we want to make

sure it certainly doesn't happen again.


SOARES: And Anthony, I know you didn't gasp and the reason perhaps many more of us are gasping when things like this happen is because, you know,

this could have been nefarious, it could have been some sort of cyberattack, which we have seen more and more of. How real is the security

threat and talk about how it's evolved, that we got to the point that we are gasping at things like this?

FERRANTE: Yes, no, you're absolutely right. And you ask a great question, because here's what happened today. While the internet, OK, or the services

on the internet did go down and become unavailable for a few hours, they are back up and running. But what happened? OK, what essentially happened

is one of two things. OK, there could be others, but one of two major points. One, we don't know how it happened. But it certainly had a global

impact. OK. And the world noticed.

So now moving forward, whether it's a malicious actor, or an engineer that misconfigures equipment, we now know that this service introduces a single

point of failure. OK? And now our adversaries may be watching and know that if they're looking to disrupt information, global information, now there's

a target that they can hit in and block that information spread very quickly and very easily.

SOARES: Yes, that's such an important point. And it leads me to my next point, which is, you know, we're seeing G7 leaders meeting this week in

Cornwall here in England, Anthony, and we've heard recently, from President Joe Biden's National Security Adviser basically saying that cyberattacks

must be a priority for NATO's own countries in the group of G7. What can we expect from G7 on the topic of cyber security here?

FERRANTE: You know, it's a great question. I'm not sure what we can expect from our global leaders. But what I what I do hope to expect from them is

that they are all sitting up and taking notice, and realizing that everything we do today involves a computer network, no matter what we do,

from the moment we wake up in the morning, till when we go to bed at night, everything that we do involves a computer network.

And we cannot ignore how fragile that infrastructure can be. And how quickly, easily and candidly inexpensive, it is to launch a large scale

attack that can disrupt services, frankly, for an entire region of the world.

SOARES: Yes, and the reality is that in cyberspace offense may have the advantages over defense. So that's incredibly important. Anthony Ferrante,

great to - great to see you. Thanks very much.

FERRANTE: Thanks for having me.

SOARES: Now stay at home. That is the message U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris has for anyone considering migrating from Latin America to the

United States. She is looking for help from the President of Mexico, they're meeting now, sure we can show you some live pictures, it's the

second and final trip, a stop-off her trip. She's looking at reasons why people migrate, and what can be done about it. Matt Rivers joins us now

live from Mexico City.

And Matt, we are waiting for a memorandum of understanding and agreement on migration and development between Mexico and the United States. Explain to

us what that actually is and what it entails.

MATT RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, we're not really sure yet, Isa. We haven't had a lot of detail from either office, as of this point, we're

going to just be waiting to see. But we know, based on what the Vice President did in Guatemala on Monday, that she clearly wants deliverables

after this trip.

She wants to be able to show that the Biden administration is doing something beyond just having conversation. So what we saw on Monday in

Guatemala was the Vice President announcing a couple of different task forces, one focused on corruption, one focused on human smuggling and

coyotes, the human smugglers that that operate and bring so many people to the border.

And they also announced a female empowerment initiative, basically focusing on female entrepreneurs in Guatemala, hoping to help jumpstart female run

businesses in that country. So we're going to see what comes out of these meetings today, which we should know very shortly here in Mexico City. The

question is, how substantive is this? What does this mean?

Because, you know, none of these problems that they're trying to solve Isa, you know, are new and so what are they going to come up with to really

address these migration issues?

SOARES: Yes, I mean, we have been here before have we not, Matt? So it will be interesting to see what exactly they are putting on the table, if it's

financial, if it's aid, that hasn't stopped the flow of migrants and for all the talk matt of creating jobs and incentives and opportunities, I

would suspect that Washington's plans also include bolstering police and security forces. How much of a concern is that for people there?


RIVERS: Yes, you know, it's certainly a concern. I mean, what we've seen in Mexico going back, you know, to the Trump administration, because the last

time we saw a big spike in numbers of migrants at the U.S. southern border was during the Trump administration.

You had the Trump administration playing hardball, basically saying to Mexico, we're going to put tariffs on a whole bunch of your exports or your

imports rather to the United States unless you augment your - basically you stop the flow of migrants. That's when you first saw the deployment of

Mexico's National Guard to the southern and northern borders to try and halt the flow of migrants.

And that really brings up what makes Mexico different about all this because Mexico, you know, don't forget of all the migrants that are

arriving in the United States, the largest single group are single males from Mexico, even though we're talking a lot about Central American


Now, Mexico represents the largest country in terms of sending people to the United States. And you have chronic violence, chronic poverty and

chronic corruption here in this country as well. Where Mexico differentiates itself from an El Salvador, from a Honduras is that Mexico

has a role in implementing these enforcement laws on these borders.

If Mexico stops, Guatemalans and Hondurans, trekking through its territory to the U.S., that only helps the United States in the long run, because

that means that less people will arrive at the border. And I think that's an interesting point is that when you look at how much you've heard from

the Biden administration, about tackling corruption and tackling poverty, you've heard them talk a lot about that in the Central American context.

You haven't heard them talk a lot about that in the Mexican context. And that's because they need Mexico as the former foreign minister here told me

a few days ago, they need Mexico to do the US' dirty work for it, to stop migrants on their trek north. It's a much more nuanced relationship that

the US has with Mexico as compared to, you know, Guatemala or Honduras.

SOARES: Yes, El Salvador, Honduras, the dramatic relations are really pretty inexistent there, aren't they? Matt Rivers for us there. Thanks very

much, Matt. Let's take you now to Peru where the leftist high school teachers lead in the former leaders daughter in the presidential race for

more than 96 percent of the votes counted. Pedro Castillo holds a slim lead over Keiko Fujimori.

But it could still be go either way, Castillo gave what sounded like a victory speech on Monday, take a listen.


PEDRO CASTILLO, PERUVIAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE (through translator): The homeland, Peru needs its children to rescue her. And thanks to every one of

you, thank you for showing solidarity. We have to be respectful of the popular will and I will be the first to enforce the will of the Peruvian

people here and there.


SOARES: Now without offering proof Fujimori is raising questions about Sunday's vote. Take a listen.


KEIKO FUJIMORI, PERUVIAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE (through translator): Here this is about defending democracy, it is about defending freedom. It is

about defending the future of our country. And of course, respecting each of the votes of our population.


SOARES: Castilla's party denies any irregularities at the poll. We will cross that story for you the next few days. Now the number of new COVID

deaths is spiking in several Latin American countries. We'll speak to a doctor in Brazil as the country faces a wave of new COVID infections plus

outrage directed at the UK after removal of Portugal from its COVID travel Green list. We'll speak for the Portuguese lawmaker, and doctor about why

he says a decision simply does not make sense. We'll bring you both the stories after a short break.



SOARES: Now Latin America is now seeing an alarming rise in the number of people dying from COVID-19. Right now the top countries reporting the most

COVID deaths per capita are all from the regions you can see that Brazil, Argentina, Peru and Bolivia, low COVID vaccination rates in those countries

are causing the virus to soar and despite having a high vaccination rate, Chile has now surpassed 30,000 COVID deaths.

I want to bring in Dr. Miguel Nicolelis, he's a professor of neurobiology at Duke University. He is in San Paolo, Brazil as the country faces one of

the world's worst outbreaks. Doctor, great to speak to you once again. Let's talk about Brazil. Let's focus in Brazil, if we can. We're seeing yet

again, doctor, a rise in ICU bed capacity in North Eastern Brazil, in the north eastern states of Brazil, I should say.

Do you think we're heading towards a third wave here? Paint us a picture of the COVID reality on the ground?

DR. MIGUEL NICOLELIS, PROFESSOR OF NEUROBIOLOGY, DUKE UNIVERSITY: Oh, absolutely. I think we are already in the third wave. There's signs coming

from multiple regions in Brazil, particularly the central West, the Northwest and Southeast shows that we are increasing the number of cases,

we are going to probably pass 100,000 cases a day this week.

And we see critical care units flooded with patients, not only COVID-19 patients, but also patients that needed medical assistance and couldn't get

it in March and April, because of the second wave that is, you know, was devastating across the country. So I think we are already in the midst of

this third wave.

SOARES: And yet, Doctor, we're seeing governors, we're seeing mayors across Brazil, relaxing restrictive measures. And may I add winter is just around

the corner.

NICOLELIS: Oh, absolutely. I'm calling here the coming of general winter which usually wins its battles, because during this period in Brazil, we

have peaks of all sorts of endemic diseases, tropical diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza. And now we have basically most of the health system

across the country is stew in the type of collapse that started in March.

So all these patients will need beds and they will not find it in hospitals. And at the same time, as you said, we have governors and mayors

and of course the president of Brazil calling for the relaxation of all these social distancing measures so it's pretty insane what is going on.

SOARES: Insane is the right word to use here, especially when you put into context what we're seeing in terms of the rollout of vaccinations,

incredibly slow. And what I've read and you can correct me here doctor is that Brazil's government Institute Fiocruz as well as Butantan are delaying

deliveries of that of the vaccines. Why is that, do we know?

NICOLELIS: Yes, we know some of the reasons. First, you know, they suffer delays from supplies, they were coming from India and from China. That was

the first reason. Then they had problems in manufacturing, local problems. And now of course, they're trying to catch up. But you know, we had a

milestone a few months, a few weeks ago of getting close to a million doses delivered per day, which is way below what do we needed.

We needed between two and three million doses per day. And even that milestone is not being fulfilled right now. We are way below -

SOARES: Yes, go ahead. Go ahead, doctor.

NICOLELIS: Yes, we are about 700,000 - 800,000 doses a day. And we are not getting vaccines to people that need it the most.

SOARES: And very worrying indeed. Dr. Miguel Nicolelis, Great to see you. Thanks very much.

NICOLELIS: My pleasure.

SOARES: And now fast - fast-changing COVID rules in Europe on making for a travel nightmare for holiday makers. Brits relaxing in Portugal have been

rushing to get home. Last week if you remember the UK removed Portugal from his travel green list after coronavirus variants had been detected there.

Now anyone returning to the UK from Portugal has to undergo quarantine.

Portugal has blasted the decision as lacking logic. A new study found that travel restrictions last year did not stop a new variant from taking over

Europe and spreading across the world. I'd like to bring in Dr. Ricardo Baptista Leite. He is a member of the Portuguese national parliament and

head of the public health at the Catholic University of Portugal. Ricardo, thank you very much for being with us this hour.


Let me first get your reaction to the government's decision to move Portugal to Amber.

DR. RICARDO BAPTISTA LEITE, PORTUGUESE PARLIAMENT MEMBER: Well, thank you so much for having me. It's quite unbelievable that the UK has made this

decision three weeks after they decided to put us on a green list to allow football fans basically to come see a football match between two English

soccer teams in the city of Porto.

Three weeks later, when the COVID scenario in Portugal did not transform tremendously, we see a reverse in that decision making process, which makes

us think that it is not based on science, but based on their own economic personal interests.

And the truth is, if we see the way that those football fans behave, some of them almost as hooligans in comparison to those that we were welcoming

now, families, middle class British families, elderly people from the UK who want to just to spend a week or two in the Algarve, which, by the way,

is one of the safest places in Portugal right now, when we look in terms of COVID numbers.

Well, it is quite astonishing how the UK is making these decisions with a tremendous negative impact. And you can only imagine in terms of the

tourism staff, hotel staff, restaurant owners, everybody is in despair, because we worked so hard to welcome the British citizens as tourists here

not to speak about the Portuguese citizens living in the UK, wanting to come to Portugal and also a business entrepreneurs from Portugal going to

the UK.

So this is really disrupting and certainly not based on science and policy at this point should be based on science, instead of going back and forth

in terms of these Amber's and Green lists, what we should be discussing is how in this new time with vaccination, can we find solutions to make sure

that we keep travel corridors open.

SOARES: Doctor, it's clear that you're clearly - it's clear that you're - that you're angry about this decision or frustrated about the decision. We

heard from the UK government basically saying that they saw a rise in COVID cases in Portugal, that was the reason for their decision, they spoke of a

Nepal variant. What's your response to this?

BAPTISTA LEITE: Well, listen, if we look at the data, even in looking at WHO data we see that there is really no significant scientific knowledge to

subsequent substantiate a decision to reverse our position especially because the number of cases of the Indian variant, not to speak of sub-

variant as the Nepalese variant we see here in Portugal are minimum, especially when in comparison with the UK.

And so it's quite astonishing, especially now that we have seen that in terms of vaccination, it is highly effective, including against these

variants. We haven't seen a rise in terms of hospital bed requirements, in terms of ICU, and certainly not in terms of deaths. And so at this point,

we cannot keep using the formula from 2020 to respond to this challenge in 2021 when we have a greater knowledge of how to deal with this virus, we

have a greater knowledge of the impact that vaccination, which is becoming widespread has.

And so honestly, I think that the lack of a true global health convention is undermining our economic efforts to get on our feet. And these kind of

solutions are bad not just for the Portuguese economy, but for the global economy, including the UK. And so looking at the countries not as a whole

but looking at a regional approach, discussing a vaccination certification, finding solutions that can keep citizens safe, both tourists and people

living here is the way to move forward.

And that is exactly the opposite that Prime Minister Boris Johnson and his team have been dealing with. And we just heard today that Boris Johnson has

requested - has asked the citizens to take their holidays across the UK. So if there was a real concern about the variants, which are quite present in

the UK, he would be basically disseminating within the United Kingdom, which is exactly the opposite that a public health approach would need.

So there's a feeling once again, that there are other interests that are not based on science focusing the UK's decision making process.

SOARES: OK, so other interests not based on logic, not based on science, Dr. Leite. You said that the Prime Minister here Boris Johnson's asking for

families to stay in the UK, holiday in UK as they prepare though, as though some of them prepare for the summer holidays. What is your message to Brits

who want to come over to Portugal, if this is not based on science? If this is based on politics, let's say?

BAPTISTA LEITE: Well, I'd like to say to the British people that Portugal is continuing to work hard. Our hotel owners, our restaurant owners, our

taxi drivers, our Uber drivers, everyone on the ground has been working around the clock to make our country safe to welcome everyone who wants to

visit us. We asked them, those that come to comply with the rules as the Portuguese are complying and together we can get out of this stronger.


I would actually like to reinforce the invitation of the President of the Madeira islands, who actually invited Prime Minister Boris Johnson to come

to our country and spend his holiday - his honeymoon among our citizens, and to see how safe it is. I'm sure that we should all be focusing more on

finding solutions on how to overcome this pandemic, than just focusing on a nationalistic approach, which will at the end undermine us all.

SOARES: Yes, I don't know if you heard me earlier, just before I came to you, saying we found that - the researchers have found that the mild travel

restrictions such as recommendations to quarantine after international journeys Doctor, failed to stop a new variant of coronavirus from taking

over Europe and spreading, which begs the question, like you said about the whole system there is in place right now.

BAPTISTA LEITE: Absolutely. That is the main question here. You know, if we were to manage air traffic control the way we are managing global health,

we would have a plane crash every five minutes. There is no kind of rules and regulations that actually support countries in a coordinated manner to

make sure that we are responding adequately in the face of this pandemic.

And of course, this is all new, but 15 months have passed. We need a multilateral approach, we need a global public convention in which those

rules and regulations are settled so that we can keep citizens moving, but in a safe manner, which is exactly the opposite of these kind of approaches

where each country is doing whatever they feel they should do or whatever their local constituents are asking them to do.

We need to make decision making processes that are based on science and coordinated at a multilateral level. Sadly, as you mentioned, these kinds

of approaches do not have the impact of stopping the virus, which should be our main concern at the same time as we try to make sure our economy kicks

back and we overcome this pandemic.

SOARES: Well, I hope Prime Minister Boris Johnson is watching. I hope he gets your invite to the honeymoon in Portugal, anywhere in Portugal, in the

Algarve where numbers are very low, like you said or too late. I for one, I'm very looking forward. I haven't seen my family for over a year and a

half who live in Lisbon. I'm very excited to see them. Thank you very much, Dr. Ricardo Baptista Leite joining us from beautiful Sintra. Thank you.


SOARES: Now French President Emmanuel Macron found himself in a tense encounter earlier today. This is the moment he was slapped in the face by a

bystander in southeast France. The man in the video was heard shouting, 'Down with Macronia,' a slang word for Mr. Macrons presidency, before the


The two men are now in police custody. Political rival and far right leader Marine Le Pen condemned the attack. Mr. Macron was meeting restaurant

owners at the Elysee, the President's official residency exchanges with the crowd and handshakes resumed, the trip continues.

Now a new era in Israeli politics is poised to begin but the old guard is not giving up just yet. We look at the new government and the hurdle it's

facing, coming up. Plus the final decision for the former boss new military commander Ratko Mladic. He is appealing his conviction for genocide and

other crimes during the Bosnian War. We'll have a live report for you just ahead. You are watching Connect The World.



SOARES: Now the United Nations court has just upheld the life sentence for the former Serb military commander known as the Butcher of Bosnia. The

court rejected his appeal against a lower tribunals verdict. Ratko Mladic, was convicted in 2017 for genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity

for acts committed during the Bosnian war from 1992 to 1995.

And that includes the killing of more than 8000 Muslim men and boys in Srebrenica in 1995. CNN's Scott McLean has more on the verdict. He joins us

now from London. Scott, is this the end of the road, would you say for him? Or does he have any more appeals that he could - he could afford?

SCOTT MCLEAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey Isa, yes, I mean, this case has been going on for what seems like ages. Keep in mind that the war ended in 1995

as you said. He actually did manage to disappear for 16 years after that. So he's captured in 2011 finally, 2012 is when his trial began. It lasted

for more than four years, we didn't end up getting a verdict from that until 2017.

And as you mentioned, verdict, including, you know, things like crimes against humanity, genocide, murder, terror, hostage taking all in the name

of ethnic cleansing against Bosnian Croats and Bosnian Muslims, as well. And if you read the original verdict, it reads like the worst kind of

horror that you could possibly imagine.

And it goes into some pretty specific detail on some pretty horrifying events. I'll just give you a couple examples like a group of 28 men who

were marched down to a bridge in one town. Some were shot along the way, those who survived were forced to jump off the bridge while Mladic's men

shot at them in the river below. There was only one survivor.

Or the 24 Muslim men who were suffocated in the back of a truck or the unarmed detainees forced out of the room with gas and then shot as they

were fleeing for safety outside of the building. In the prison camps that, you know, they, they described starvation, unsanitary conditions and rape

of girls under 12 years old.

And so after 2017, that conviction, he appealed there hoping to at the very least get his sentence reduced. Today, as you said, though, the judge

ultimately upheld all of the convictions against him. And so the situation really doesn't change for Ratko Mladic. And so if there is any kind of a

route to appeal, it's certainly not going to be an easy one, Isa.

SOARES: It's kind of an obvious question. But why 26 years later, Why is it taking this long, Scott?

MCLEAN: Yes, as I said, I mean, so many things that happened between - between then and now. I mean, he primarily the 16 years where he went on

the run after the war, sort of shielded by people in in Serbia, shielded by the security forces, shielded by, you know, his family members who were

able to protect him, because remember, there's a lot of people who are sympathetic to this person.

He is yes, viewed by a villain by Bosnian Muslims. But he is very much a hero in the eyes of a lot of people in Serbia, and even recently, and this

is something that world leaders, even at the G7 foreign ministers meeting brought up sort of warning against this rising tide of ethnic nationalism

that we're even seeing today, sort of ginned on by some of the leaders today continuing to use these ethnic tensions to their political advantage.

And a lot of people are, you know, concerned that this country, Bosnia and Herzegovina won't be able to withstand all that much, especially

considering the government, which seems to be quite dysfunctional, has sort of a power sharing agreement between different ethnic groups that helped to

end the war.

But, you know, there's plenty of concern that given how dysfunctional the government is, and given this rising tide of ethnic nationalism that, you

know, things haven't quite resolved themselves the way that the international community would have thought that they would, this many years

later, Isa.

SOARES: Yes. And for many of the families, a long journey to justice, isn't it? Scott McLean there for us. Appreciate it. Thanks very much, Scott. Now,

never before heard audio of a 2019 phone call now obtained by CNN is shedding light on how far the man once known as America's Mayor was willing

to go for former U.S. President Donald Trump. Long-time adviser Rudy Giuliani can be heard relentlessly pushing the Ukrainian government to

investigate baseless conspiracies about then candidate Joe Biden and his son.


Allegations that Trump pressured the Ukrainian government - the Ukrainian leadership to investigate his would-be political rival in exchange for

better relations and military aid later became a central part of his first impeachment.

CNN's Matthew chance has our exclusive report.


REPORTER: What exactly did you mean?

RUDY GIULIANI, FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK: Meaning meddling in the election.

MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was the call that set events in motion.

KURT VOLKER, U.S. DIPLOMAT: OK, so we should have on the line here, America's mayor, Mayor Giuliani and we have Andriy Yermak.

CHANCE: Thrusting a reluctant Ukraine into America's divided politics. We already know through transcripts and testimony, Giuliani pressured them to

announce investigations important to then President Trump, but this is the first time we've heard his actual voice.

GIULIANI: I want very much to see that our two countries are able to work together.

CHANCE: Giuliani cajoled the Ukrainian presidential advisor on the other end of the line, first promoting debunked conspiracy theories that Ukraine,

not Russia was involved in U.S. election meddling in 2016 and tried to hurt the Trump campaign.

GIULIANI: Way back in November, I got information from a reliable investigator, international investigator that there was a certain amount of

activity in Ukraine during the 2016 election that was - that involves Ukrainian officials and Ukrainian - mostly officials being asked by our

embassy, possibly by other American officials. Basically, the statement was to produce dirt on then candidate Trump and Paul Manafort.

CHANCE: By the time of the call in July 2019, Joe Biden had already emerged as the Democratic Party's front runner to challenge President Trump.

Digging up dirt on Biden, like the unfounded allegations of corrupt dealings in Ukraine, when he was Vice President, had become a priority for

Trump and his longtime advisor.

Throughout the roughly 40 minute call, Giuliani repeatedly pressed the Ukrainian leadership to publicly announce investigations into these two,

something that would have undoubtedly benefited Trump's re-election campaign and damaged candidate Biden is to have Giuliani sets out what's


GIULIANI: And all we need - all we need from the President is to say, I'm going to put an honest prosecutor in charge, he's going to investigate and

dig up the evidence that presently exists and is there any other evidence about involvement of the 2016 election, and then the Biden thing has to be

run out. I don't know if it's true or not. I mean, I see - I see him bragging about it on television.

And to me as a lawyer, to me as a lawyer, it sounds like a bribe. Somebody in Ukraine's got to take that seriously.

CHANCE: And the Ukrainian presidential office, they took it very seriously, then as now the country was fighting a desperate war against Russian backed

rebels in its east and heavily depended on U.S. weapons and military aid to hold its ground, including millions of dollars that had been frozen by the

Trump administration, while Giuliani pursued these political investigations.

Mindful of the need for a strong relationship with Washington, the Ukrainian presidential advisor on the call, tried to assure Giuliani

investigations he wanted would be looked at.

ANDRIY YERMAK: And we'll be ready this day immediately communicated, to coordinate, to work and investigate everything which you listed.

CHANCE: But privately Ukrainian officials say they were alarmed of being sucked into American politics, especially when Giuliani repeatedly

suggested compliance would open the door to closer U.S.-Ukrainian ties, even a presidential meeting, undermining the former U.S. presidents

assertions that he never sought political favors from Ukraine to secure U.S. support. So called quid pro quo.

DONALD TRUMP, 45TH U.S. PRESIDENT: I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo.

CHANCE: Now we can hear Giuliani set out his offer.

GIULIANI: So he could make some statements at the right time, that he supports a fair, honest law enforcement system and that these

investigations go wherever they have to go. It's going to be run by honest people.


That would clear the air really well. And I think it would make it possible for me to come and make it possible, I think for me to talk to the

president and see what I can do about making sure that whatever misunderstandings are put aside, and maybe even - I kind of think that this

- this could be a good thing for having a much - a much better relationship where we really understand each other.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To my factual knowledge, they approached numerous--

CHANCE: One former Ukrainian official who was listening in on the call, understood all too well. He spoke to CNN last month of his outrage, as he

heard, Giuliani tried to force a deal that, in his words, threatened Ukraine's national security.

IGOR NOVIKOC, FOREMER ADVISER TO UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY: Let me remind you, we're a country fighting an active war with Russia for many

years. So anything to do with swapping, you know, favors within our bilateral relationship in exchange for trying to get us involved into U.S.

domestic politics is just wrong on many levels, morally, ethically, and probably even legally.

CHANCE: By call's end Ukrainian side seemed to understand exactly what President Zelensky of Ukraine was expected to do to keep Washington on the

side. And on the call, at least, they agreed.

YERMAK: I'm sure that Zelensky will say that. Yes.

VOKER: Yes. Good. Second.

GIULIANI: That would - that would. Believe me, Andriy, that would - that would be good for all of us.

CHANCE: Giuliani has denied any wrongdoing in Ukraine, and says he was just trying to help his personal client, Trump. It was, of course, this and

other aggressive attempts to coax Ukraine, vigorously denied by then administration officials, that led to former President Trump's first

impeachment in which he was eventually acquitted by the U.S. Senate.

It's hard to know if actually hearing Giuliani relentlessly pressing Ukraine like this.

GIULIANI: If he could say something like that on his own in the conversation, it would go a long way. It would go a long way with the

President to solve the problems.

CHANCE: Would have in any way influenced the outcome of the impeachment vote. Matthew Chance, CNN, London.


SOARES: Now this Sunday could be one of the biggest days in recent Israeli history. Israel's parliament is set to vote on a new governing coalition,

then swear-in a new Prime Minister. If it all goes as expected Prime Minister - Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's 12 years as Prime Minister

will come to an end. But he's not done fighting just yet.

Let's bring in Gil Hoffman. He's the chief political correspondent for Jerusalem Post. Gill, great to have you on the show. Let's talk about the

options left for Netanyahu. What does he have left? What else can you do?

GIL HOFFMAN, CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT, JERUSALEM POST: Netanyahu can still try to bring some kind of defector from the other side to deprive

Naftali Bennett of the majority required to unseat Netanyahu in the parliament. Of course, security tensions can always escalate.

We are in the Middle East. And that can lead to calls to delay or keep Netanyahu in power. Until it really happens, those who want Netanyahu to

leave cannot breathe easy.

SOARES: Yes, give me a sense, Gil, of the - of the political landscape right now. How is this likely to go ahead? Is this transition likely to go

ahead? This change of government, this coalition?

HOFFMAN: Yes, absolutely. They've come so far. They've brought together a wide spectrum into a unity government from the far right to the far left

with an Israeli Arab party, that is agreed to join the governing coalition for the first time making history here in Israel, and hopefully they will

usher in a period of internal reconciliation.

SOARES: Yes, but like we were saying, you know, Netanyahu is still fighting. He has, even though we've had language for him from him that's

kind of reminiscent of Donald Trump. He said the biggest election fraud in history and I think he said people feel cheated. And he actually said

people should protest the formation of the government.

You know, what is your biggest concern here, as we head towards Sunday?

HOFFMAN: Look, I don't expect there to be 1000s of people going to the parliament building and trying to break in, like they did in congress. And

I also don't expect Netanyahu to go gracefully. It would be wonderful if he did. We've had many changes of power here in our democracy that went



He's got another few days to realize that he's not going to remain Prime Minister and to take the high road out, I think if he did that would help

him make a political comeback later on. He's not going anywhere. He's going to be the opposition leader and the candidate for Prime Minister. You can

woo voters a lot easier if he goes on with respect.

SOARES: And what I mean, I know he's stepping down, we think he's going to step down - expected to step down - the Prime Minister's this - this

weekend. What would be his legacy here?

HOFFMAN: Netanyahu's legacy is that Iran did not acquire a nuclear weapon. It wanted to acquire a nuclear weapon long ago. He made Peace Accords so

with United Arab Emirates, and with Bahrain and even with Morocco and with Sudan, without Israel having to make significant concessions.

And in the pandemic, Israel handled better than countries around the world. There are fewer than 200 people in a country of 9 million people who have

the coronavirus right now and that's a very big relief that Israelis will be appreciative to Netanyahu.

SOARES: Gill Hoffman, appreciate your time to speak to us. Thanks very much.

HOFFMAN: Thank you.

SOARES: Just ahead right here on the show, CNN's showing its commitment to World Oceans Day, we've been talking to an award winning conservationist

about protecting our blue planet. Her words of hope in our special 'Call to Earth' report. That is next.


SOARES: Now nature lovers right around the world are celebrating World Oceans Day, today. Throughout this week, CNN is marking the occasion with a

cluster of content about our blue planet. Today's Call to Earth is a rallying cry from a Rolex Awards Laureate Kerstin Forsberg, a champion of

manta rays in her native Peru. Let's take a look.


KERSTIN FORSBERG, ROLEX LAUREATE: There are many reasons why we should protect the oceans. We're talking about 70 percent of our planet's surface

and over 95 percent of where there can be life so it's really the most important part of our planet. My name is Kerstin Forsberg. I am marine

scientist and conservationist and I work to protect giant manta rays in my homeland of Peru.


In the past, they were not protected, they were being harvested. And many times, even local citizens didn't even know that giant manta rays existed

in Peru. Manta rays typically have small population sizes, we were talking about a species that could really be jeopardized by this continuous over


When we were able to secure national protection for giant manta rays, that's what makes me feel like an achievement. Once - once you start

creating those changes. What Planeta Oceano does is we really bring people together, we empower people to conserve marine environments.

(Foreign language)

When I grow up, I wasn't talked about the ocean as much as I should have been in school. And really, as I move forward in my career, really

recognizing how this issue was also going on worldwide. There's so - so much to do to engage ocean issues within the curriculum, within classrooms.

It's not enough to just research or educate, you need to think about creative solutions that can support livelihoods of these impoverished



FORSBERG: We've been working with fishermen to build manta ray ecotourism. And this serves not just as a way for fishermen to contribute to

conservation, but also to develop additional income that is really benefiting them and their communities. There's fishermen that perhaps in

the past have harvested giant mantas, but that now go out with us to study them.

They don't throw plastic bags into water anymore, and if they see a plastic bag in the water, they'll pick it up and they'll bring it back to coast.

We'll talk about sustainable fisheries and how they can't fish, juvenile fish, for example, you start seeing changes in behavior, thanks to this,

you know, one flagship species that has created even more care for the environment.

For me, it's always about looking at those connections with the people. Meeting with the teachers, seeing a smile on a child's face, working with

local volunteers. That's what gives me most hope, really.


SOARES: And Kerstin Forsberg, whom you saw, there is our guest Editor of the Call to Earth webpage until the end of July. She's helping us to

continue showcasing really the ocean related stories as part of the initiative at CNN and let us know what you are doing to answer the call

with the hashtag call to earth. We'll be right back after a very short break. Do stay right here.


SOARES: Now a London Metropolitan Police officer has pleaded guilty to the kidnap and rape of Sarah Everard. The 33-year old's body was discovered in

March in a woodland in southeast England. Prosecutors say the suspect Wayne Couzens hasn't yet been asked to enter a plea on the murder charge. CNN's

Nina dos Santos brings us the details.


NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: He's a 48 year old former police officer. Wayne Couzens appeared via video link from a high security prison

Belmarsh at the Old Bailey the central criminal court here in London to answer to charges of kidnapping and rape of 33-year old Sarah Everard, a

young marketing executive who vanished from the streets of a quiet South London suburb at the height of the lockdown in March this year.

Her disappearance prompting a wave of anger and indignation and grief, with many 1000s of women taking to the streets, including here to converge upon

parliament to highlight the consequences of a toxic culture of dangerous misogyny in the UK. Well, Couzens pleaded guilty to both raping and

kidnapping Sara Everard. He also said that he was responsible for her death, but he was not at this point asked to enter into a murder plea.

That may come later, pending the release of medical report. The next date in this case is said to be on July 9. Isa?

SOARES: Thanks very much. Nina Dos Santos there. Now to a Hollywood A- lister known for speaking out. Keira Knightley saying that every woman she knows has been sexually harassed, harassed, including she says herself.

Speaking to Harper's Bazaar magazine, the British actress says she finds the whole situation quick depressing. Knightley known for starring in film

roles such as Pirates of the Caribbean as well as Pride and Prejudice said a few months ago that she will no longer do intimate scenes directed by

men, citing the male gaze as the reason.

And before we end the show, and I'll leave you with this story.


SOARES: A herd of wandering elephants now famous in China for their adventures were found napping in a word in the country's union province.

Taking a rest, these giants have been on the move since March of last year, traveling approximately 500 kilometers from their nature reserve.

And that's all for me for this hour of Connect The World. I'm Isa Soares. Do stay right here with CNN. One World is next.