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Biden Calls On Congress To Act On his Economic Proposals; Biden: U.S. Jobs, Earnings And Economic Growth Strong; Zelenskyy Vows Victory For Ukraine; Queen Elizabeth Will Not Attend Epsom Derby On Saturday; CNN Speaks With Queen Elizabeth's Former Press Secretary. Aired 11a-12p ET

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JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The Senate has passed legislation and I'm hopeful the House can do the same to send me

legislation in the coming weeks to crack down on these companies, and help lower overall cost.

And my plan does all this without raising a penny in taxes on people making less than $400,000 a year. And without raising the deficit at all, by

taxing the super wealthy and big corporations, like the 55 major corporations, that don't pay a single penny in taxes, even though they had

a $40 billion in profits.

Point is this I'm doing everything I can on my own to help working families during this stretch of higher prices. I'm going to - I'm going to continue

to do that. But Congress needs to act as well. We can do so much more if we come together to lower the costs for American families. But my

Congressional Republican friends led by Rick Scott, to have a different approach.

He's actually introduced the plan, he wants to raise taxes on working families, by an average of $1,500 a year, put Medicare and Social Security,

Medicaid and it's going to be excusing me Medicaid on the chopping block every five years. In other words, every five years they are going to no

longer exist unless they vote them back into existence. I disagree with that.

What in God's name are you doing? I'm going to work with anyone Democrat, Republican and Independent with real solutions and real savings for the

American people not take money out of their pockets. Now, the other element I'd like to address it has impacts on inflation is the lower the deficit.

The reason this matters to families because reducing the deficit is another way to ease inflation. My friends on the Republican side like to paint me

as the big spender. But let's look at the facts. Facts matter. Under my predecessor, the deficit exploded, rising every single year he was in

office.

Under my plan, we're on track to cut the federal deficit this year, by $1.7 trillion. I mean, this year by $1.7 trillion. That's a fact, the largest

decline in American history. And by the way, those aren't White House projections. They come from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office at

you in the press and everyone around the country legitimately quotes all the time.

That progress on tackling the deficit was not preordained. It was my economic strategy built into our historic recovery, that we didn't

anticipate a war in Ukraine at the time, historic economic growth and not only helped tens of millions of family move up, it has helped our federal

deficit come down.

And now because of that strategy, we're on track for a deficit, to take up a lower share of our economy than it did before the pandemic. In fact, the

Treasury Department is planning to pay down, pay down the national debt this quarter, which never happened under my predecessor, not once, not

once, because unlike my predecessor, the deficit has come down both years I've been here.

I propose a plan to keep shrinking that deficit, by making common sense reforms to our tax code, leveling the playing field internationally, so

that the biggest companies no longer have an incentive to shift jobs, to shift them overseas to make their product because they get charged less in

taxes, and avoid paying their fair share of taxes here at home.

We put together a multi-nation initiative that I'm hopeful will come into play at the G7. And ending the outrageous unfairness of our tax system

allows billionaires look, if you can make a billion dollars, well, for just pay a little bit of your fair share, you know; just pay your fair share.

Billionaires pay a lower rate than a teacher or firefighter. The bottom line is this.

Part of the reason I ran for president is because I was tired of trickledown economics. It doesn't work. My plans are produced the

strongest, fastest, most widespread economic recovery America has ever experienced with record jobs, new record small businesses and wages rising.

It's the foundation for an economy that works for working families. Because of that foundation, we're better positioned than any country in the world,

overcome global inflation that we're seeing and reach a new chapter of stable and steady growth.

So let's come together and focus on what's matter and what matters. Let's build on the extraordinary progress remains. Let's continue to build this

economy from the bottom up in the middle out. When that happens, everybody does well, including in a very wealthy. Thank you and God bless you and -

God may God protect our children. I'll take a few questions.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you going to Saudi Arabia? Elon Musk has said that he has a super bad feeling about the U.S. economy? I have to say Elon Musk

about his feelings about the economy and. Jamie Dimon said the same thing.

BIDEN: Well, let me tell you why Elon Musk is talking about that? Ford is increasing their investment overwhelmingly, I think Ford is increasing

investment and building new electric vehicles, 6000 new employees, union employees, I might add, in the Midwest.

The Former Chrysler Corporation - they are also making similar investments in electric vehicles. Intel is valued at 20,000 new jobs for making

computer chips. So, you know lots of luck in his trip to the moon. I mean, I don't - I mean--

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible)

BIDEN: I'm not sure where they're going? I have no direct plans at the moment. But let me tell you, that I have been engaged in trying to work

with how we can bring more stability and peace in the Middle East. And there is a possibility that I would be going to meet with both Israelis and

ask some Arab countries at the time, including I expect would be Saudi Arabia be included in that if I did go. But I have no direct plans at the

moment--

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible)

BIDEN: Look, I'm not going to change my view on human rights. But as President of the United States, my job is to bring peace if I can. Peace,

if I can. And that's what I'm going to try to do.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, will you be open to meeting with the Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, if you do end up going to Saudi Arabia?

BIDEN: We're getting way ahead of ourselves here. What I want to do is see to it that we diminish the likelihood that there's a continuation of this,

some of the senseless wars between Israel and the Arab nations. And that's what I'm focused on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is the OPEC doing enough on oil production?

BIDEN: Well, what I recently read is talking to my team that they acknowledged that there is an oil shortage and they have made an

announcement of late that they're going to increase production. So I don't know enough to know whether it's enough. But I know it's positive.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. President does Ukraine have to cede territory to - -?

BIDEN: You know you've been always fair with me. From the beginning, I've said and I've been not everyone's agreed with me. Nothing about Ukraine

without Ukraine it's their territory. I'm not going to tell them what they should and shouldn't do.

But it appears to me that at some point along the line, there's settlement here, what that entails. I don't know. I don't think anybody knows the

time. But in the meantime, we're going to continue to put the Ukrainians in a position where they can defend themselves. Thank you all so very much.

BECKY ANDERSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL HOST: Well, Joe Biden speaking about the U.S. economy on the back of what our robust new jobs numbers. The President

said America is in a stronger economic position today than any other country in the world. In fact, he said, some experts suggest U.S. economic

growth could outstrip China's growth this year, and that will be the first time since 1976.

Fighting inflation, he said is his top economic priority. He said he's focused on bringing down the cost of everyday goods, fuel and food. He

blamed the spike in costs on Putin and Putin's war. He said, as president, he'll do everything in his power to blunt the cost on American families.

I'm doing everything I can on my own. But he said Congress must help appealing to lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, reminding his domestic

audience that he has their backs, it's lawmakers who aren't doing their best.

He also promised to bring down the cost of the federal deficit reducing the deficit by $1.7 trillion this year. Part of the reason he said is that he

is tired of trickledown economics. Part of the reason he decided he wanted to run for president is that he's tired of trickledown economics. He said

it just doesn't work.

Let's bring in CNN's Business Correspondent Rahel Solomon. I have to say as well, he did and was challenged by reporters on a number of issues.

Ukraine, OPEC, Saudi he was also challenged on the fact that Jamie Dimon has said that the U.S. economy faces the threat of a hurricane; Elon Musk

is worried about what is down the road? What's your assessment of what we just heard?

RAHEL SOLOMON, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, I mean, look, I think when he was questioned about Elon Musk's comments yesterday in a report,

according to Reuters, that he was worried about a super bad economy. He sort of brushed it off, right? He started to talk about what Ford is doing?

And he sort of threw up his hands and said, you know, I don't really know.

He has clearly said that this will good news jobs report. He said that Americans remain anxious and he knows that but he said that Americans

should be confident that his administration is on top of it.

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SOLOMON: A few asterisks however, he pointed to a recent fed report that said that Americans are feeling very positive about their economic

conditions.

A bit of clarification there, that was a recent fed report. But Becky on page one of that report, it clearly states that the findings report

primarily financial circumstances in late October and early November of 2021.

That, of course, was before the war. That was, of course before the most recent spike in gas prices that we have seen. That was before the Omicron

variant. So a bit of perspective there, I should also point to some recent CNN polling that suggests that a majority of U.S. adults actually believe

that President Biden's policies have hurt the economy.

In terms of today's jobs report, look, I think, as one analyst said, it was a Goldilocks report. There was a bit of good news in there. There was a bit

of bad news in there, depending on your perspective.

Clearly President Biden trying to get ahead of the messaging and say, at least from his perspective and the White House's perspective, it was good

news.

ANDERSON: Rahel, thank you for that. So we've just been listening to the U.S. president, mostly speaking about the U.S. economy, telling the viewers

of his audience, that is a domestic audience, obviously, but incredibly important to the rest of the world, what he is doing in his fight against

inflation.

He is talking about fuel and food, being the costs of Putin's war, blaming President Putin for the spike in the cost of everyday goods and saying that

he will do everything he can to blunt the effect of those costs.

He was also challenged, thank you, Rahel. He was also challenged by reporters, after he spoke about the economy about a number of other issues,

not least, an upcoming trip to the Gulf, where he is likely to.

It looks as if he is planning to meet with the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman. I've got Fawaz Gerges, Middle East expert,

regular guest on this show. He is Professor of International Relations at the London School of Economics, delighted that you are with us here today.

You and I have been there sort of, you know, talking to our sources now. I'm I certainly haven't I know you will have been for some time this. This

actually doesn't come as a shock to me that Joe Biden, certainly the White House has announced that there is a trip in the offing.

But it's certainly a pivot like this Biden Administration isn't it?

FAWAZ GERGES, AUTHOR, "MAKING THE ARAB WORLD": Becky, it's simply the U.S. president has blinked first. Joe Biden has blinked first. The Saudi Crown

Prince Mohammed bin Salman and Joe Biden face each other. I mean, and finally, Joe Biden has eaten his words what he has said about the Crown

Prince. Remember, what did he say?

He said he wants to isolate Saudi Arabia, he wants it to be the pariah say that it is, he would not basically shake the hands of the Crown Prince, the

White House has been begging the Saudis to increase their all input for the past year, to no avail.

And finally, the President is going on personally, and who will most likely not only shake the hands of the Crown Prince, but also make a plea that the

Saudis increase their oil exports, why? American domestic politics, he made it very clear.

He wants to blunt the impact of the inflation, both food and energy on the American public.

And the reason we need to tell our audience because midterm congressional elections in November, and Americans we know, Americans vote their

pocketbooks. And that's really what - American domestic politics in the Ukraine.

ANDERSON: It was the reason why I brought up what he was talking about inflation ahead of our conversation with Rahel, because it's exactly that

the speech that he just made was a speech to his domestic audience saying I've got your backs, I'm going to sort out this spike in food and fuel.

It's been caused by the war in Ukraine. It's Putin's fault. And I don't want it to you, Mister and Mistress America. But what he's got to do, and

what you rightly suggests he is now going to do is swallow his pride as it were, and go hand in fist to Riyadh, because that is where there is a lever

to blunt the cost of high fuel at the pump effectively.

Question is, though, the problem is the Saudis do lead this OPEC Plus group, but ultimately, it was a gesture they made in the last sort of 24,

48 hours. There's not an awful lot of wiggle room in that oil market actually.

GERGES: Not really the big question Becky is not that the president is swallowing his pride. The big question is that the American president who

has made human rights and morality top priority, real politic takes precedence over human rights, point one.

Point two; the Saudis have not been forthcoming. Will most likely not to be as forthcoming as the American president wants him to be. I mean, they

increased price about the export of oil in July and August by 400,000 barrels, hardly touched the surface.

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GERGES: So my take on it is that the Saudis will not rupture their economic relations with Russia, they do not trust the Americans. In fact, a rupture

has taken place in American Saudi relations.

My take on it is that the Saudis will play both sides; they'll play the Americans against the Russians and against the Chinese. What we are seeing

here, Becky, the big point here, you always says what the big point is?

The big point is that the regional powers Saudi Arabia, Iran, United Arab Emirates sticky now hedge their bets, they try to minimize the risk because

of the great power competitions, the United States against Russia, the United States against China, they have options.

ANDERSON: Where does this leave them at this point?

GERGES: A great position. I mean, whoever believes, I mean, think of the United Arab Emirates, you know, very small country, tremendous power

bargaining power. I mean, the Crown Prince, even though the Biden Administration has done everything its power to try to really dismiss him

as an accusing the Crown Prince of committing a crime to killing Jamal Khashoggi, they have options now.

Always the great system, the great power system, the competition between the great powers, allows regional powers to explore it to have

opportunities. And that's exactly what the Saudis had to --.

ANDERSON: So I just wonder how the Gulf States, particularly the UAE, and Saudi, and you, you add in there, Iran, and Turkey, and the wider story

here, potentially, because the Iranians could, you know, could benefit from this need of the Biden Administration to get a number of things in position

at present.

You know, what do they do with that power at this point?

GERGES: I mean, think if the question is what do the Saudis want? The Saudis want advanced weapons from the United State. They're already

providing now that the Biden Administration behind the scenes has really basically been providing major advanced weapons to Saudi Arabia.

The Saudis want even their own nuclear program, peaceful program, the Biden Administration has also promised that. And thirdly, of course, in terms of

security, they want Patriot missiles in order to really protect Saudi Arabia from attacks from Yemen, and Iran, that they want, basically, the

administration not to be very forthcoming towards the nuclear talks with Iran.

And what do the American wants? Oil, oil and oil, because they want to domestic politics, I mean, to President Biden, the congressional elections

in November is existential.

In particular, Becky, if the Republicans managed to capture both houses, means the end of the Democratic majority the end of the Biden

Administration, as an effective presidency for the next two years.

ANDERSON: It's fascinating. I do want our viewers just to hear what Joe Biden did say, when questioned on oil and this upcoming pending trip to

Saudi Arabia, just have a listen to this.

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BIDEN: What I recently read and talking to my team that they acknowledged that there is an oil shortage and they have made an announcement of late

that they're going to increase production. So I don't know enough to know whether it's enough, but I know it's positive.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ANDERSON: That was Joe Biden; in response to a reporter's question about what the Saudis had done in and what I think he could be only described as

a gesture to the oil markets. It's always a pleasure having you with us.

Thank you very much indeed, for joining us Fawaz Gerges in the house was making an awful lot of sense. We are taking a very short break, back after

this.

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ANDERSON: All right, you're watching "Connect the World". I'm Becky Anderson. To Russia's war on Ukraine now grim milestone is a phrase that's

often overused, isn't it. But how else would you describe this? The war Russia thought it was swiftly winning Ukraine is now in its 100th day, 100

days in with seemingly no end in sight. Smoke from incessant shelling rising over Severodonetsk.

The city is the last major holdout in what is the Luhansk region, the UK predicts the entire region will fall to Moscow within a couple of weeks.

However, Ukraine says it repelled several attacks in the past day and Russian forces have made little headway. The president insists Ukraine will

not give up.

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VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT: The leaders of parliamentary factions are here. The president's chief of staff is here. Prime Minister

of Ukraine, Shmyhal is here. The President is here. Our team is much bigger. The armed forces of Ukraine are here. Most importantly, our people,

the people of our country are here. We have been defending Ukraine for 100 days; victory shall be ours, glory to Ukraine.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ANDERSON: Well, the Kremlin today also vowed to continue its "special operation" as it calls it until its goals are achieved, so both sides

digging in as we get to the 100 day marks.

CNN's Ben Wedeman has been reporting throughout Ukraine and seeing the fighting and the massive destruction firsthand. He joins us now from Kyiv,

a 100 days in, I wonder if you can give us your assessment of where we are at.

BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, this is a war that many people including Western intelligence, thought would be over in a

matter of weeks. Here we are 100 days in. Life in Kyiv on the surface appears to be quite normal.

Ukraine isn't victorious yet. But certainly what's clear is that Russia has already suffered a symbolic defeat in the fact that it was only what more

than just a month ago that the Russian forces were on the outskirts of the city.

They are gone well gone. But they are focusing their efforts on Severodonetsk and the Donbas region where they are using their massive

artillery power to try to grind the Ukrainian resistance into dust, but the Ukrainians are still holding on. The price, of course, has been massive.

You are talking about perhaps tens of thousands of civilians having been killed. 35 percent of Ukraine's GDP has been wiped out at a loss of about

$600 billion massive destruction through the infrastructure.

But Ukraine still is holding on and seems to be in some areas, for instance, in the south around the town of Kherson, regaining lost ground.

So at this point, after 100 days, where this conflict is going, it's not clear.

The West continues to provide a certain level of military support to Ukrainian forces, but Ukrainian officials stress time and time again, they

need more and they need that support to arrive more quickly.

But it certainly appears that the wildly ambitious goals of Vladimir Putin and taking over the capital of the country within weeks are the thing of

dreams, Becky.

ANDERSON: How big a risk is the possibility that the world gets fatigued those who have been supporting Ukraine in this effort to repel the Russians

get fatigued as a piece that we've read today on cnn.com suggests. You know, Putin lightly hoping that there will be a sense of indifference going

forward. What's the risk there Ben?

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WEDEMAN: Well, I think there's no question the Russians are banking on that the Russians after all, if you look at what happened in World War Two, they

held on and were able to emerge of victorious because of the depth of their territory, because of their willingness to take casualties that most

countries would never be able to fathom.

And so for instance, we just saw President Biden talking about the impact of fuel prices, which worldwide have gone up by somewhere between 20 to 25

percent. And there's going to be domestic resistance in the United States, which is a bit of a political mess as it is.

Anyway, where people are going to blame the American President, for things out of his control, like the increase in fuel prices, so there is a real

danger that as the economic price of this war begins to really bite in Europe, and the United States that the amount of public support will start

to diminish.

And then there's sort of beyond that the global impact of potential severe shortages of grain for instance, Africa imports 44 percent of its grain

from Russia and the Ukraine.

If you start seeing severe food shortages, famines, God forbid in Africa, then perhaps the support for Ukraine in this war could begin to dry up.

ANDERSON: Ben Wedeman is back in Kyiv, in Ukraine, always good to have you there. And reporting, your analysis and your insight are, is really

important for our viewers. Thank you, Ben.

And you can read more about 100 days of Russia's war on Ukraine on the website. CNN's Nathan Hodge, as I said, our former Moscow Bureau Chief has

a story about what has become a slog on the ground.

While he says Russian President Vladimir Putin may now be playing the long game counting on international fatigue to set in, that's at cnn.com on your

computer or your CNN app on your Smartphone.

Well, just ahead, saying thank you to Britain's longest reigning monarch. While devoted family and friends, they were missing the Queen at today's

Platinum Jubilee event that is next.

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ANDERSON: Love and loyalty very much the order of the day. And the order of service at St. Paul's Cathedral in London as the British Royal Family

keyworkers and Commonwealth members gathered under that great dome earlier today to say thank you to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second.

That is the big ballots and polls been reconditioned for this, sounds tremendous, doesn't it? And it feels more than a little poignant to have to

say that the Queen couldn't be there for the service of Thanksgiving in honor.

Buckingham Palace says she's feeling some discomfort after Thursday's thrilling start to the four day Platinum Jubilee celebrations. But this

happened today, have a look and a listen.

Ballots and polls bells rang out. Cheers went up for the arrival of Prince Harry and his wife Megan the first time that they've attended a public

event in Britain in more than two years.

And this just in to CNN Buckingham Palace says the Queen will now not attend Epsom Darby on Saturday. CNN's Max Foster is back on the mile for

hours just out from Buckingham Palace and he joins me now live.

The queen wasn't in attendance today. Is that is it clear how she is where she is and how she is?

MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT: Forgive me, is that dust on the trees that you remember Becky from outside broadcast this - in London. She was

watching for winter castle on the TV should also be watching the Epsom races on TV as well.

So she's trying to stay engaged. We've also got the Sussex is staying in just by the cast as well, so lots of speculation that they might be meeting

up with the kids as well at some points.

But she was sorely missed, of course at the service because this was a central event really in the jubilee celebrations really mocking her

position as Head of the church, into the piece.

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FOSTER (VOICE OVER): The bells toll for the queen as guests arrive at St. Paul's Cathedral in London for the Thanksgiving service, including former

PMs, the Mayor of London and ministers.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson also in attendance, receiving boos from the crowd. But perhaps the most notorious guests were Prince Harry and Megan

welcomed with cheers in what was their first public appearance as a couple at a royal event in two years since a very public break from Royal Life.

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge make their way to the cathedral next, closely followed by the Duchess of Cornwall and Prince Charles, who was

there to represent the queen in this celebration after the Monnet felt discomfort after Thursday's events.

As the Queen watched from Windsor Castle, Charles took her seat, one that he's ordained to one day take himself as king. But even in her absence, the

Queen's public service her life and even her love for horse racing were at the heart of this event.

STEPHEN COTTRELL, ARCHBISHOP OF YORK: Your Majesty, we are sorry that you're not here with us this morning. But we are so glad that you are still

in the saddle.

FOSTER (VOICE OVER): A touching service enchanted by the cathedral and Royal and military choirs and prayers.

COTTRELL: Keep on doing.

FOSTER (VOICE OVER): And even a reading from the Prime Minister himself. But the ceremony wasn't without his hiccups, including a last minute change

of Archbishop after the Archbishop of Canterbury contracted COVID-19.

It was a beautiful and cheerful ceremony honoring the longest serving monarch of Great Britain and in the first royal event in St. Paul's

Cathedral without the queen in 70 years.

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FOSTER: Still a lot of energy around this event. I have to say Becky that Mao is absolutely full. And there's nothing actually to see here today.

They just coming here because there's so much buzz and this is the focal point.

Tomorrow night, it certainly will be the concert stages going up there. It's pretty spectacular. We're not allowed to show you any of it, lots of

stars coming for the Jubilee Concert. It seems unlikely. If we look at the way things are going that the Queen will attend. But certainly the rest of

the royal family will be there. So that's the next big event and next chance we might see the Queen.

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ANDERSON: Max, hold it together. You've got a couple more days to go those pesky London plane trees. They seem to shed something at every point during

the year and at this time of the year on you.

And it's obvious that Harry's stuff is that it gets right down the back of your throat. You are we feel for you out there. Thank you, Max Foster on

the absence of the Queen today at a celebration of Thanksgiving for her.

I'm joined now by Queen Elizabeth's former Press Secretary, Charles Anson. You know I'm talking about when it comes to these pesky London playing

trees outside Buckingham Palace there.

You obviously know the Queen well, and she's very discreet woman and very few people do know her as well as her press secretaries will have known

her. How will she feel about not being able to attend today? And how is she?

CHARLES ANSON, FORMER PRESS SECRETARY TO QUEEN ELIZABETH: I think for the Queen the service of Thanksgiving at St. Paul's was very much a central

feature of the Platinum Jubilee. So she would have been sorry not to be there, particularly as she is a woman of a strong faith and not only Head

of the Church of England, but also a very, very dutiful Christian, so that would have been a very central part.

But equally, the Queen thought it takes things as they come. She's got very strong shock absorbers and she's, after all done her job for seventy years.

I don't think anyone else in the world has done for seventy years.

ANDERSON: I don't think.

ANSON: So I think she takes the sort of the triumphs and the setbacks in the same way and just carries on. And it's that commitment to duty that I

think people love as well as her humanity and interest in the world and the Commonwealth.

ANDERSON: And you can talk very fluidly on the setbacks as well as the good times because of course, you were Press Secretary during the 1990s famously

described one year by the Queen as her anus or --.

ANSON: That's right. And I think, you know, that was 1992 with the troubles in the family, the separations of the Prince and Princess of Wales.

ANDERSON: The fire wins.

ANSON: when the fire wins, it was a difficult year, there's no question about it. But that commitment to duty is so strong in the Queen that she

really has the ability to keep going.

And also, of course, the perspective that's informed by her faith, but also by her experience of life, she's made every leader in the world over 70

years. So she's pretty --and she's pretty wise and experienced in knowing that things come up and hit you. And another moment, there's a triumph for

some kind, you just keep going.

ANDERSON: Family, faith, and friends are often what she has talked about. And duty, of course, family has caused some angst of late. So I'm just

thinking about the sort of juxtaposition between the ideas of Prince Andrew, for example, not being around, actually not being around because

they say he has COVID, but certainly not to have been on the balcony, for example.

This time, Prince Harry and his wife, Megan, there's clearly been a lot of issues amongst the family because of them. And then you see Little Prince

Louis, holding his hands over his ears on the balcony.

You know, he's not working world yet. But he was on the balcony, I just wonder how the Queen would have felt about an image like that, because she

does dare deeply about his grandchildren, doesn't she?

ANSON: The point is that there are two aspects. There's the monarchy, there's the head of state roll, and the public service, the royal family

give. And then there is the family itself, which is a large family with many different generations in it.

And of course, some of them, you know, have difficulties as in any family. But I think the key thing in terms of the monarchy is the Queen's

outstanding service over such a long period.

And the fact that there are at least two generations of successors in Prince Charles and Prince William, who have the same very strong sense of

public service. So I think in terms of the strength of the monarchy, it's in a good position.

And in terms of family life, there are always going to be things that go well and go not so well. And you take those hits as they come.

ANDERSON: Was your job fun?

ANSON: It was a lot of it was fun. I mean, during my time, Nelson Mandela came out of prison and the Queen went to meet him in South Africa. They got

on very well indeed.

It was the first time a British monarch had ever been to Russia. And I think in terms of the Queen's duties, you know, the, the inclusion of so

many more parts of society and young people's jobs, the medical profession, all sorts of other areas of life that the monarchy takes an interest in

being encouraged and moving forward.

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ANSON: So I think in terms of, you know how she does the job and the inclusion of people, the monarch is in a strong position at the moment.

ANDERSON: Thank you, sir. It's good to have you on, taking a break, back after this.

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ANDERSON: Well you are watching "Connect the World". Coy Wire is here with World Sport, that's it from us. What have you got for us in the next 15

minutes?

COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR: Becky we have an incredible show packed with some action from Roland Garros. You have Coco Gauff just 18 years old,

entering her first ever major final. And Alexander Zverev and Rafael Nadal in a barnburner, right now we're live in Paris as well. We'll take you

there; we have much more on World Sports.

ANDERSON: A barnburner, amazing, love it, can't wait as it is and a half. See you same time tomorrow. Coy is up next.

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