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Hamas Returns Bodies of Four Israeli Hostages; Donald Trump Ramps Up Attacks on Ukraine's Zelenskyy; Luis Rubiales Found Guilty of Sexual Assault; Nvidia Recoups Losses after DeepSeek Shakeup; Real Madrid Knock Out Man City Behind Mbappe Hat Trick. Aired 9-10a ET
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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST, CONNECT THE WORLD: This is the scene in Hostage Square in Tel Aviv. Earlier in Gaza, Hamas handed over the remains of four
hostages, reportedly including the Bibas children and their mother. It is 04:00 p.m. in Tel Aviv, it is 06:00 p.m. here in Abu Dhabi. I'm Becky
Anderson, and this is "Connect the World".
Also coming up, the last 48 hours have been a whirlwind of diplomatic attacks between the U.S. and Ukraine, with President Trump now accusing
President Zelenskyy of being a dictator. These are live pictures from the Rome Hospital, where Pope Francis is still staying.
And breaking in the last hour, Former Spanish Football Federation Boss Luis Rubiales found guilty of kissing a player without her consent. The stock
market in New York opens about 30 minutes from now, futures indicating a slightly lower open. We'll be back there to see where investors are laying
their bets at 09:30 Eastern Time.
We begin with a hugely emotional and somber moment for Israel in the last few hours. Hamas returned the remains of four Israeli hostages held in
Gaza. Here you see Red Cross vehicles in Khan Yunis, where the transfer occurred. It is the first time the group has released deceased captives
since the Hamas led terror attack more than 16 months ago.
Israeli soldiers saluted the military convoy as it passed through the border from Gaza. A short time ago, the convoy arrived at a Forensic
Institute in Tel Aviv where the bodies will be formally identified. CNN's International Diplomatic Editor, Nic Robertson is live in Jerusalem this
hour with the very latest. And Nic, walk us through, if you will, these images that we saw today.
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yeah, it's been a very powerful day for Israel. Is a very day of really powerful images and a day
of powerful statements. One of those coming from the President of Israel, Isaac Herzog said -- you know, the country's heart was broken over this,
for the families in particular.
And he offered an apology, and not for no reason. The families these four Shiri Bibas young sons, Kfir and Ariel and Oded Lifshitz, the four of them
were all from Nir Oz. Nir Oz was the community that was really hard-hit October 7th. 117 people murdered or taken hostage; highest number of
hostages taken from there.
And the only Kibbutz that the IDF didn't get to before Hamas left there. So, there are so many reasons this day today means so much to Israel. And
the events began to unfold very early this morning.
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ROBERTSON (voice-over): In a convoy freighted with the pain of a nation, the bodies Hamas says are the youngest October 7th hostage victims and
their mother on their final journey home. And in the fourth Red Cross vehicle, what Hamas says are the remains of one of the oldest October 7th
victims Oded Lifshitz.
The early morning handover beginning against the back drop of Hamas propaganda turning
dignified with a short service as the four caskets handed over to the IDF. A moment of closure beginning for the families and a nation hostage to the
fate of the Bibas.
Shiri Bibas's fear clutching nine-month-old Kfir and four-year-old Ariel, etched in Israel's collective memory. The young family from Nir Oz became
icons for hope over despair. Israel is riding an emotional roller coaster over their fate.
Worryingly, Shiri, Kfir and Ariel not released with 105 other hostages freed during the first pause in fighting November, 2023. Shiri's husband
Yarden's fate was also unknown. He too disappeared. October 7th, believed taken to Gaza.
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The first news of Shiri, Kfir and Ariel coming late 2023 when Hamas claimed they were killed in an Israeli air strike, releasing a propaganda video
exploiting emotional sensitivities of Yardan blaming the Israeli government for their deaths. The IDF called it psychological terror.
Months later, this security camera video captured by the IDF appearing to show Shiri soon after her abduction, but until this day, the IDF unable to
confirm the fate of the family, cautioning against Hamas statements. When Yardan was finally free by Hamas three weeks ago, everyone in Israel
understood the heart-breaking news awaiting him.
His father and sister consoling him against the near certainty of his loss. Along the convoy route Thursday, flag waving, Israelis paid their respects.
Hostage Square somber, not celebratory, as with previous releases, white vans carrying the four on the last leg of their journey to a Forensic
Institute for final identification the country, the Bibas and the Lifshitz fears closer to realization.
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ROBERTSON: And for the Lifshitz's family, that realization has actually now been confirmed by that medical institute. They have said now they can
confirm that the body that Hamas said was Oded Lifshitz's body is, in fact, him, a sad moment, obviously for the family.
I spoke to one of his daughters just last weekend, Cheron (ph), and she was telling me, even then, that she was just hoping against hope, against all
the negative information that had been coming their way, hoping against hope that he was still alive. One of his sons today has said this does
begin that moment of closure Becky.
ANDERSON: Nic Robertson is in Jerusalem. Well, the time is six minutes past four in the afternoon. Thank you, Nic. Well, to Ukraine now, where it's
been a week of punishing blows frankly, today all eyes are on the meeting between its leader and Donald Trump's Russia Ukraine Envoy, Keith Kellogg.
They are sitting down in Kyiv a day after the U.S. President claimed multiple times that Volodymyr Zelenskyy was a dictator and warned him to
move fast or he wouldn't have a country left. Have a listen.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: He refuses have elections. It's low in the real Ukrainian polls, somebody said, oh no, his
polls are good. Give me a break. The only thing he was really good at was playing Joe Biden like a fiddle, a dictator without elections. Zelenskyy
better move faster. He's not going to have a country left.
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ANDERSON: Well, meantime, Russia continues to bombard Ukraine. Officials there say Moscow launched more than 160 drones across the country
overnight, striking the City of Odessa, for example, for a second day, as well as a missile attack on critical infrastructure in Kharkiv.
Ivo Daalder is a Former U.S. Ambassador to NATO. He has just Co-Authored a piece in "POLITICO" titled, "We need a new Trans-Atlantic bargain if
Washington is to continue to see an enduring value in this historic alliance, it needs a true and more equal partnership". He joins me now live
from New Delhi, where he is today.
Look before we talk about all the conceit of the piece that you wrote, it's been -- it's been a bad 48 hours, frankly, for any relationship that there
might have been between Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy. And it feels as if it's spiralling at this point. Can you just give me -- you know your
read on what we are hearing now. I mean, the sort of stuff that's coming from Donald Trump and the sort of retorts from Zelenskyy don't feel as if
this is a relationship that is going anywhere apart from downwards fast.
IVO DAALDER, FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO NATO: Certainly 48 hours has been sort of the exclamation point to an extraordinary week that started with
Donald Trump getting on the phone with Vladimir Putin, the man remember who, single handedly started this war way back in 2014 when he annexed
Crimea and then three years ago, almost to the day launched a massive, massive invasion that continues every day, with long missile strikes and
everything else.
And Donald Trump has decided that the problem is Ukraine. The problem is not the guy and the country that has been inflicting this massive damage on
Ukraine, and it's been down-hill ever since. There is this strange idea that Trump has, that Ukraine is at fault, not Russia, which, of course, is
blatantly untrue.
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And worrisome is that the arguments he's having, including this idea that somehow Volodymyr Zelenskyy is a dictator, are arguments you hear regularly
on Russian TV. You hear regularly in statements from Vladimir Putin. And it just seems like the President of the United States has become part of the
propaganda machine of Russia. And that is just when you think about it extraordinary.
ANDERSON: Zelenskyy has accused Donald Trump of living in a disinformation bubble for which read you are parroting talking points from the Kremlin Mr.
Trump. Where is Keith Kellogg in all of this? Just how difficult a job does he have? He's in Kyiv. His boss is calling for elections during martial
law, of course, to oust the president, a president that Keith Kellogg works for. And -- you know will need to message back to at this point.
DAALDER: You know, I don't know where Keith Kellogg is. I mean, here's a man who was appointed by President Trump to be the negotiator for Ukraine
and Russia, and he was excluded by President Trump from the very discussions with the Russians in Riyadh. He's not a main player.
He has been trying to figure out exactly what his role is in the evolving diplomatic dance that the United States is now engaged in with Russia. I
frankly -- you know I feel sorry for him. I just think that it's not clear at all what he's doing in Ukraine, because clearly the President of Ukraine
and the people of Ukraine have lost confidence and faith in the United States. I spent the last week in Europe -
ANDERSON: Yeah.
DAALDER: -- many people in Europe, including leaders, have lost confidence in the President of the United States.
ANDERSON: Yeah, they also feel as if they are collateral damage at the moment. I mean, it's a really difficult situation that of the Europeans.
Let's talk about that. The article I referenced earlier, that you have written in that you make the argument that Europe needs to step up for its
own security, to make an equal partner for the States.
Have you always felt that since your tenure as U.S. Ambassador to NATO, or is it Donald Trump's approach and rhetoric to NATO that has changed your
perspective. I'm just interested to get your -- to get your sense.
DAALDER: No, I've always thought that the Europeans needed to do more. I saw for four years on the North Atlantic Treaty Table. Indeed, it's a long-
standing American view that as Europe recovered from the damage of World War II and became more powerful economically, it should take on a bigger
share of the burden.
Donald Trump tends to scream about it in ways that his predecessors have not. But the fundamental argument that Europe should do more has been there
for a very long time. The need now is evident. It's clear the Europeans understanding it and all for however bad this week has been, and it has
been a really bad week, it also provides an opportunity for Europeans to say, here Donald Trump is what we are prepared to do.
We are prepared to raise our defense spending to 3 percent. We're prepared to take on the vast majority of the force requirements to defend Europe, or
take, ready to take, to invest in the strategic enablers which would make modern war for possible. We would like to have two things from you in
return.
Number one, please don't leave tomorrow. Do so in an orderly fashion. Only draw down forces once we step up. And secondly, remain engaged in Europe.
Europe is fundamental to your security. Remain engaged maintain the command structure that we have set up over the last 75 years, and importantly, the
nuclear deterrent that you have provided us so that we did not have to require our own nuclear weapons.
Please maintain that as well. That is the new Trans-Atlantic bargain that we call for, and just made more urgent by what we have seen the past week.
ANDERSON: Well, certainly if Donald Trump, if he was motivated to just get Europe to come to the table, get a sense of urgency, and to begin to
consider how it takes control of its own security, something that with the greatest of respect, Emmanuel Macron has been talking about now for months.
Certainly, since the beginning of this war, it has to be said, then perhaps there is a sort of -- you know there is a light at the end of this tunnel,
or something positive to come out of this.
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You're making some very good points, and your insight is invaluable. Where this lands, though, I think is very unclear at this point, and it's good to
have you on. Thank you very much indeed.
Well, members of President Trump's own party have been pushing back on his false claim that Ukraine started the war. His Former Vice President Mike
Pence posting quote, Russia launched an unprovoked and brutal invasion, claiming hundreds of thousands of lives. The road to peace must be built on
the truth. And here is what some other Republicans, importantly on Capitol Hill, had to say.
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SEN. LISA MURKOWSKI (R-AK): I would like to see that in context, because I would certainly never refer to President Zelenskyy as a dictator.
SEN. JOHN THUNE (R-SD): The president speaks for himself. What I want to see is a peaceful result, a peaceful outcome.
SEN. THOM TILLIS (R-NC): Make no mistake about it, that invasion was the responsibility of one human being on the face of this planet. It was
Vladimir Putin.
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ANDERSON: Excuse me. CNN's Alayna Treene is at the White House for us. How's the White House coping with this? I wanted to say defending its
stance, but I think it's more than that. This point is, how is it coping?
ALAYNA TREENE, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Look, a lot of the officials that I spoke with, the ones we've seen on TV, including just moments ago, we saw
National Security Advisor Michael Waltz speak on Fox News defend the president here.
Look, there's a couple things from my conversations with White House and Trump Administration officials that I think is notable that I want to point
out. One is that there had been frustration boiling within Donald Trump's orbit, but really with Donald Trump himself in the days leading up to him
making these comments.
One his team and the president himself were tracking what Zelenskyy was saying, including some of the criticism about not having a seat at the
table when the United States delegation met with Russia's delegation in Riyadh. But then it really hit an inflection point.
I was told when Zelenskyy argued that the president operates or lives, he put it in a disinformation space that actually I was told, set off
something with Donald Trump. It was an inflection point. Advisors said, those who were with him in Florida said he told them that he wanted to
respond directly.
And then, of course, we saw that post from him where he said that Zelenskyy was a dictator, and then he went on to make those comments throughout the
day. Look, this is how one White House official framed all of this to me. They said, quote, it's a frustration. There is a strong and legitimate
feeling that this brutal war has to stop and that this pathway is being diminished through Zelenskyy's public statements.
Again, we're hearing them kind of argue that the president is frustrated by him. We heard Vice President J.D. Vance says this as well yesterday, that
bad mouthing Trump is not the way to negotiate with him, that, if anything, that will antagonize him. But not really addressing some of what Trump has
said, noting, of course, one some of the false claims that he has made, including that Zelenskyy has not called for elections because he is a
dictator.
I mean, we know part of the reason they haven't had elections in Ukraine is because once they were invaded, there was martial law. And it's very
similar during war time. We saw this during World War II with Britain, they didn't hold elections.
One thing, though, I do also want to point your attention to is, of course, all eyes now are on that meeting in Kyiv between Keith Kellogg and
Zelenskyy. I asked Michael Waltz this morning. I caught up with him at the White House, what Kellogg's message to Zelenskyy needs to be. Take a
listen.
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TREENE: What do you think?
MICHAEL WALTZ, U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: -- one -
TREENE: Yes. I mean, what -
WALTZ: All right.
TREENE: -- I mean, what do you think is the main message Kellogg needs to deliver to Zelenskyy today, after all of the back and forth yesterday.
WALTZ: Let's tone down the rhetoric and sign the economic opportunity. Sign the deal.
TREENE: Is that Kellogg's directive today is to get him to sign the deal?
WALTZ: Well, he's out there talking to about a number of things, but that would be, I think that would be a tremendous step forward.
TREENE: Thank you so much.
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TREENE: Becky, a few notable things there. One is he said Kellogg's message for Zelenskyy needs to be toned down. The rhetoric again, kind of in line
with what I told you I've been hearing from White House officials. But the other third part of that was saying that he wants him to convince Zelenskyy
to sign that rare earth minerals deal.
This all goes back to the president, who has long been skeptical of United States funding and aid to Ukraine. He believes that there needs to be
something that the United States gets in return. A lot of that attention is on this deal. He said, Waltz said that Trump really wants Kellogg to try
and get Zelenskyy to sign that today. So more on that, and I will add as well, we're expected to hear from some of these top national security
officials at the White House around 01:00 p.m. so stay tuned for any updates there, Becky.
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ANDERSON: Yeah, that deal -- that deal includes handing over 50 percent of Ukraine's rare earth minerals. The price is pretty high, but it is typical,
perhaps, that we will hear Mike Waltz, you know, suggesting he needs to sign the deal after all, that is language that we recognize, of course,
from Donald Trump. It's good to have you. Thank you very much indeed.
Still to come, Former Spanish Boss, Soccer Boss, Luis Rubiales learns his fate after that kiss at the Women's World Cup. More on that after this.
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ANDERSON: The Former Boss of Spain Soccer Federation has been found guilty of sexual assault. Luis Rubiales has sparked an international outcry,
frankly when he kisses player Jenni Hermoso without her consent, following the country's Women's World Cup triumph in 2023.
Rubiales seen here on the left, has been fine more than $11,000 that is despite prosecutors pushing for a prison sentence. Pau Mosquera joins us
now from Madrid. And Pau, what did the court say? What more did they say?
PAU MOSQUERA, CNN SPAIN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Becky. The judge actually justified that Rubiales consummated that sexual assault by
surprisingly, carrying out an act that violated the sexual freedom of Jennifer Hermoso, and that's why Spain's National Court has found him
guilty of sexually assaulting Hermoso by giving that kiss to her lips during the celebrations that took place once Spain's women national team
won the World Cup in August 2023.
The court has actually ordered him to pay a fine of more of $11,000 and also to not to go within 200 meters of Hermoso during a year and to refrain
from contacting her during a year. It is important to remember Becky that during the trial, both prosecutor and complaining lawyers asked one year in
prison for Rubiales for discount of sexual assault.
But the judge believed that, as it's of a lesser intensity, that what is stated in the Spanish Criminal Code because there was no violence or not
intimidation, then it's just enough with paying that fine. Also, Rubiales and the other three former members of the Spain Soccer Federation have been
acquitted of the count of coercion account that the prosecutor and the complainant lawyers defended as they stated that all of them pressed
Rubiales - Hermoso in that case, to downplay the kiss.
Now, CNN is trying to gather divisions of the different lawyers as to know how do they react to the sentence. And also, to know if they appeal it
because they now have the right to Becky.
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ANDERSON: Good to have you. Thank you. Well, the Vatican says Pope Francis is showing slight improvement just days after he was diagnosed with
pneumonia in both lungs. CNN's Christopher Lamb is monitoring the Pope's health for us from Rome, and he filed this report a little earlier.
CHRISTOPHER LAMB, CNN VATICAN CORRESPONDENT: I'm here at the Gemelli Hospital in Rome, where Pope Francis is being treated for pneumonia. Now
this hospital has a strong connection with the Pope. And on my left, here is a statue of John Paul II who visited this hospital a number of times.
He came here first after he was shot in St. Peters Square in 1981 and due to his frequent visits, a special suite of rooms was created for the Pope,
and that is where Pope France is receiving his treatment, on the 10th floor of the hospital. And there, there is a place for the medical teams to meet,
and a chapel.
Now, we've seen people come to the statue in recent days to pray for Francis. There are candles with his face on them, and people on Sunday were
gathering hoping to see the Pope for the Angelus Prayer that he has in the past led from the balcony. They'll still be hoping to see him in the coming
days as he tries to make a recovery from the pneumonia.
Now the Gemelli is a very respected Hospital in Italy and was named after Agostino Gemelli Hospital, Franciscan Friar and Psychologist Christopher
Lamb CNN, Rome.
ANDERSON: All right. See you are watching, "Connect the World". We will be back with more after this.
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ANDERSON: Welcome back. I'm Becky Anderson in Abu Dhabi. You are watching "Connect the World". And we are just about to hear the opening bell on Wall
Street. It is just before half past nine. They are ready for that. Here we go. That is the start the trading day, of course. And as we let the markets
settle somewhat, we were expecting, at least the futures were indicating a slightly mixed to lower open.
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I mean, it has to be said that there's very little appetite at present, it seems, from investors for placing big bets against the backdrop of
geopolitical and trade uncertainties. Well, looking ahead to next week, investors are going to be keeping a close eye on chip giants Nvidia. Its
earnings will report Nvidia the top supplier of AI chips, but the company has been trying to branch out to more than just the hardware behind
artificial intelligence.
Today, the company is launching a learning platform to teach sign language. The program called Signs uses 3D avatars that users can interact with and
feature 100 distinct signs. Though Nvidia is planning, they say, to add more. Well, for more, I'm joined now by CEO Shelley Palmer, Professor of
Advanced Media at Syracuse University.
Shelley, I'm not suggesting you're the CEO of Nvidia, although I could have phrased my introduction slightly, slightly better. It's really good to have
you. I listen, by the way, folks out there, I follow Shelley. I signed up to his newsletter. It's fantastic.
You keep me honest when it comes to the world of AI, advanced tech and everything that sort of goes under that what is a very wide umbrella these
days. Let's start with this technology that we expect to be launched. Shelley, walk us through this, if you will.
SHELLY PALMER, CEO, THE PALMER GROUP: So, it's interesting, every language that humans use and every way that we pattern recognize can be put into a
large language model and learned by the machines. So, whether it's American sign language or English or French or electromagnetic radiation, or any
kind of thing that has a pattern can be, you know, basically taught to a large language model.
They have a thing called Kaggle Grandmasters in Nvidia. And a gentleman named Christoph Henkel won this competition. He was able to teach a large
language model, American Sign Language, and once he developed this, that it opened a flood gate of opportunity. So, this is a wonderful thing, the --
as you know, multi stacked AI models, when you have multi agent models, they're able to do accomplish goals as opposed to tasks.
So, one of the goals here would be to teach you American Sign Language, or to be able to interpret American Sign Language. So, you've got a video
component where it's looking, and you've got an animation component where it's creating, and then you've got the large language component where it's
understanding. So, this is a really wonderful system, and the look opportunities are just endless.
ANDERSON: Yeah. And look -- you know let's see whether this is a game changer. Certainly, we know, and I'm doing a lot of work locally here in
the UAE, on the disruption to the education system as a whole, that AI may provide both as opportunities and, of course, as challenges. And I think,
you know, we'll begin to see more of that in the days and weeks to come.
While I've got you, I do want to talk wider with you today. There's been a lot of concern, or a lot of chat, let's say, about DeepSeek, the Chinese AI
firm that burst onto the scene last month with that model that appeared to be much cheaper to make.
Nvidia stock dropped 17 percent in January, three weeks later, of course, it's nearly fully recovered. What's your take on the level of investment
being poured into these models right now? And I want to talk to you about - - Elon Musk's latest venture, but let's start there.
PALMER: So, there's a false dichotomy here. This is this idea of either or DeepSeek was created using a distillation methodology which stresses
algorithmic efficiency. They were able to use software to do what normally a large language model, or a hyper scaler or a foundational model builder
would need to use brute force compute.
And what was so interesting is that just a few days after the inauguration, you had some of the biggest hyper scalers and foundational model builders
standing next to the President of the United States talking about a $500 billion investment in brute force compute.
ANDERSON: Yeah.
PALMER: And then January 20th, basically the same day, DeepSeek R1 comes out, and it just decimates everybody by saying, look, we used this
distillation training method, and for just a few million dollars, which everyone's contesting, maybe it wasn't a few million. We've created this
algorithmically efficient model that is so much less expensive to run. What it did was sent a giant wake up call to everybody.
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PALMER: And it literally doesn't matter if this model was trained for $5 million or $50 million because just a week later, Stanford University and
Carnegie Mellon for $50 used the same technology and put S1 their model on GitHub, which is also a distillation model. So, we now know that there are
ways with algorithmic efficiency to accomplish really, really good results that are meaningful and useful, economically useful.
And it's kind of put the industry on notice. Hey, both things are going to co-exist. It's not either or that you will need both. And by the way, it
has gone hand in hand, algorithmic efficiency and computer -- computational capability has evolved together and will continue to evolve together. So,
for anyone to say it's this or that it's a really naive and huge misunderstanding of the technology and or what's required to do the work
that's happening now.
ANDERSON: Shelley, that's why, you know I wanted you on, because you just - - you just make sense, and it's good to have you on that. Let's talk about this new model announced by Elon Musk this week Grok 3. Now he claims it
out performs his competitors OpenAI and Google in math and science, and he plans to use it to help get to Mars.
I watched that launch on air, and as much as I would -- you know suggest I'm some -- I'm some way down the sort of AI journey myself, but you know,
it fascinated me what they were suggesting and what I saw presented. What's your take on our Grok 3 stacks up against other models.
PALMER: So, this is an enduring arms race that we are going to be in for the foreseeable future. You have several foundational model builders.
You've got X AI, which is Elon Musk's company, you've got Lama, which is from Meta Mark Zuckerberg's company. You've got Nova from Jeff Bezos
company. You have OpenAI, Sam Altman's company.
You've got the investment Microsoft has made in both OpenAI and others. You have Anthropic, where the Cloud Model is all of these foundational models
on any given day are going to be slightly better or slightly worse than each other, and they're always going to compete for who's best.
The much more important question to ask is, how are they trained? What are the biases and what are the use cases? One thing is very, very clear, the
Chinese models, the American models, the European models, are all trained by different kinds of programmers on different kinds of data, and while
there is some common data, the public web has been mostly scraped by all the large language model builders.
Now we're getting into some subtlety, because the next level is called a reasoning engine, where rather than just doing an individual task where you
say, recognize a face or write a paragraph you're asking the AI stack to accomplish a goal for you. So how that's programmed? How that's coded? How
that's trained, is going to have a very big influence on the way, on the output itself.
So, it's not who's best today or who's best tomorrow on some benchmarks. It's as a business, you're looking at very specific business outcomes you
wish to accomplish which models, and by the way, it's going to be a combination of models are going to give you the business outcome that you
are trying to achieve. So, there's no one model that's ever going to solve for everything, nor should anyone ever think about it that way.
ANDERSON: Shelly Palmer in the house, always good to have you, sir. Thank you very much indeed. Real Madrid dealt both of us struggling, I think, a
little bit with a cough today, Real Madrid dealt a final blow to Manchester City's Champions League hopes on Wednesdays. As Kylian Mbappe delivers a
five star, three goal performance for Las Blankas (ph).
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ANDERSON: When Real Madrid signed Kylian Mbappe over the summer, nights like last night were, frankly, what they were hoping for the star Frenchman
delivered a hat trick performance against Man City to help his side move on to the round of 16, Andy Scholes joining me now, and I have to say, I
thought Real Madrid would probably go through but what a performance.
ANDY SCHOLES, CNN WORLD SPORT: Yeah. I mean, you know, Becky Kylian Mbappe. he's won a World Cup. He had a hat trick and another, but this was probably
a top five performance from him that we've ever seen. He was just incredible with the hat trick.
And but -- you know, he said afterwards, you know, he was a top score in the Champions League last time around, they did not win. He just wants to
win it this time. And you know, Real, really looks like they're hitting their stride. Up next for them is either going to be Atletico Madrid or
Lever Coos, and we're going to find out that round of 16 draw tomorrow. But at this point, really hard to bet against Real Madrid going all the way.
ANDERSON: Yeah. And who'd have bet that Man City would have been -
SCHOLES: Season -
ANDERSON: -- two thirds of the way through this season, and pretty much out of everything I know, unbelievable. Good to have you sir. World Sport is up
next with Andy. I'm back top of the hour for you with the second hour of "Connect the World".
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