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Hundreds Dead in Nepal as Fears Grow of Secondary Disaster; Nvidia Earning Soar Even as Bill Gates Shares AI Fears; Rescue Efforts Intensify After Floods Hit Nepal-China Border; Qatari Prime Minister Visits Iran to Revive U.S.-Iran Talks; Tate Brothers to Request Bail While They Fight Extradition. Aired 9-9:45a ET

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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN HOST, CONNECT THE WORLD: Well, a look at the devastation after catastrophic flooding. Rescuers hampered by cut-off

streets. And there are fears that a newly formed lake could break its banks. It is 06:45 in Nepal. It's 05:00 p.m. in Abu Dhabi.

I'm Becky Anderson. This is "Connect the World". Also coming up for you, beginning this hour, closing arguments in the murder trial of Lindsay

Clancy. Will a jury hold her responsible for killing her three children? And even as Nvidia doubles its sales. There is a fresh warning from a major

figure in the world of tech.

Markets in New York, of course, open about 30 minutes from now, 09:30 local time. Here's a look at the futures, indicating a mixed open. Those Nvidia

earnings should give markets a boost, but let's see. Investors seem to believe that the AI boom is benefiting the wider tech industry.

We'll wait to see how those markets open half an hour from now. Look, I want to start in Nepal, where rescue efforts are intensifying after

catastrophic flooding sweeping through a mountainous region along the Nepal-China border on Wednesday. And we got to warn you, a video that is

still emerging from what is this disaster-stricken area has been terrifying to watch.

The disaster unleashed a massive surge of water, tearing through buildings and destroying vital infrastructure like that bridge. People caught in the

path tried to flee as the floodwaters swept through with devastating force and speed. Well, this person is among the lucky ones who survived.

More than 350 people to date, as we understand it, have been killed, and more than 1,300 do remain missing, including more than 700 foreign

nationals. Well, at this point, rescuers, we're told, relying heavily on helicopters to reach survivors stranded by flash floods, where most major

roads and bridges have been destroyed.

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GOPAL SEDAIN, TRIBHUVAN UNIVERSITY TEACHING HOSPITAL: Till now, we have received 31 patients. The situation problem is because the road

connectivity is lost. We are getting all the patients by heli rescue. If there was road connection, we would be expecting more and more patients.

But let's see if anything can be done.

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ANDERSON: Well, CNN's Will Ripley has got more now, including the most dramatic and we must warn you disturbing footage that we've seen in the

days since this disaster struck.

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WILL RIPLEY, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A bridge snaps before being swept away as floodwater pours into Nepal's Trishuli

River. Video shared on social media shows people running and riding away on motorbikes, realizing how little time they have to get to safety.

At this Himalayan border crossing, people on the street could probably hear the danger coming before they could see it. A recently rebuilt, earthquake-

resistant building blocked their view of the monster wall of water until it was too late. From this view, you can see the floodwater's ferocious speed

and massive scale.

People desperately running for their lives, have nowhere safe to go. In what appears to be about 20 seconds on video, the flood consumes everything

in its path, a row of busses, a four-story building, a bridge, gone, buried beneath a black wall of water. From the air, a helicopter pilot watches the

disaster race through the valleys below, sweeping away homes, trees, and roads.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The whole scenario, it was horrendous. It was uncanny. Anything like you've ever seen before.

RIPLEY (voice-over): On this bus in Nepal, passengers spot the giant waves crashing into the bridge behind them. The streets are full of people trying

to get away, panic fills the bus as passengers look out the windows at the horror unfolding. In the same town, from the safety of a hillside temple,

people watch helplessly as the deluge of dark water breaks apart a bridge like a toy, dragging it downstream.

This video from the Nepal Red Cross captures the speed and strength of the water, whipping around cars and tearing down power lines in its path. The

flood came crashing down from high in the Himalayas.

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Scientists at Kathmandu University believe an avalanche of ice and rock may have blocked a river until the water broke through. A torrent of water,

mud, and debris forcing its way downstream, submerging or destroying buildings, tearing villages apart. Mile after mile of these majestic

mountain valleys, a dark scar carved into the landscape.

Foreign tourists, including Americans, are among the missing at this vital land gateway between China and Nepal. The mudslide ripped apart roads,

knocking out power and communications, leaving communities on both sides of the border cut off. On the ground, people get their first look at what

little the flood left behind.

And amid the horror, hope, a helicopter makes a daring rooftop rescue, one of many in the hours and days ahead. Will Ripley, CNN, Taipei.

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ANDERSON: Joining me now is Sagar Pandey, who's Founder and CEO of the Himalayan Glacier Adventure and Travel Company. He says he's lost all

contact with his tour group of 47 people. I mean, Sagar, thank you for joining us. You must be desperately worried for everyone in that disaster

area, including sadly your co-workers, of course, and your clients.

So, let's start with them. Do you have any information about them at all at this point?

SAGAR PANDEY, FOUNDER AND CEO OF THE HIMALAYAN GLACIER ADVENTURE AND TRAVEL COMPANY: Well, that till now we don't have any information of the missing

peoples, so no contact. You know, even the short side rescue from the military has not been found by any of our clients, and so.

ANDERSON: Do you know where they were, sir? It looks as if we've lost contact with Sagar. Let's see if we can re-establish contact.

PANDEY: Yeah.

ANDERSON: Meantime, let me get you to the CNN Weather Center Allison Chinchar is there, and she's got more on what we understand one to have

happened and two what may happen next, Allison.

ALLISON CHINCHAR, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Really going to be the fact that we have some rain in the forecast for a lot of these areas, which could hinder

a lot of the rescue and the recovery efforts that are expected to take place in this region. So, here's a look at the satellite now.

Not too much going on in the general vicinity. It's more of what is in store for the forecast. Now the problem is when you have things like this.

So, this, for example, is where a new lake has kind of formed back through here because all of the debris that came down from yesterday.

The rocks, you've got some trees right through here that fell off of the side. All of that is effectively dammed up part of this river, so you've

got this filling back up. But at some point, that could break. It could move past it, and then you have that wall of water coming by.

What could fill that lake even faster is adding a ton of rain to it. So again, there's a lot of factors going through here of what could happen in

the coming hours and even the coming days. Here's a look at that forecast satellite again going through the next couple of days.

You can see we have a tremendous amount of rain that is expected in the general area. Now that doesn't mean it all has to fall right where the

landslide took place and where you had all of these issues, but even some of the surrounding areas, even if it rains to the west or to the east, some

of that flows down into those same river valleys.

And so, you still could end up getting more water rushing into many of these locations that had all of that mud, all of those rocks, everything

kind of flowing into these communities. Now you could be adding more water on top of it. And in some cases, it could be quite a lot.

You could be looking at maybe 50 to 100 millimeters. Some spots, it could be 150, maybe 200 millimeters worth of rain that comes down. The concern

also would be how quickly does that come down. If you get 100, 200 millimeters of rain in just a few short hours, that also could trigger its

own set of flooding in addition to all of the issues that they've been dealing with in the past.

So, a lot of these things are stuff we're going to have to contend with. And if it was going to happen, this is the time of year we are in the midst

of monsoon season for this particular region. Again, you can see August, the second rainiest month of the year in this region.

So again, we do expect a lot of rain this time of year. It's unfortunate because it lines up with all of the traumatic incident that happened

yesterday. You see video like this again, just all of the mud flows, everything that has just filled up into this space. It's the mud, it's the

dirt, it's the boulders.

You saw trees in some of these instances, but also any debris that it picked up, pieces of wood, cars, anything that it was able to pick up as it

was rushing down through those valleys now kind of gets stuck, and you can kind of see it's very hard by the way, a lot of this when it hardens, it

acts like concrete.

It is very hard to dig through, to move things around once it kind of gets stuck into these types of elements.

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So again, this is something we'll have to keep a close eye on in the coming days and hours, just as the rescue and recovery efforts continue.

ANDERSON: Yeah. Yeah, it's shocking stuff, isn't it? Allison, thank you. Well, people in the border region of Nepal and China holding their breath a

day after that catastrophic flooding, as Allison referenced, there a new lake has formed upstream from that border that could threaten a second

round of mudslides and flash floods there.

I want to take a closer look at that in this video. Drone footage shows the lake forming in a scar left by a previous landslide on the Nepalese side of

the border there. Chinese state TV says weather conditions are posing a very difficult challenge for rescuers. An expert at Kathmandu University

explains what we know about what happened to create this.

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MOHAN BAHADUR CHAND, ASSISTANT PROFESSOR AT KATHMANDU UNIVERSITY: The height where we are assuming that ice was broken is about 5200 meters from

the sea level, and then the vertical drop of almost 1200 meters, and then again, it the ice might have melted during that drop.

And then again, it carried several amounts of tons of sediments in that low part, and then again there was another vertical drop all the way to the

rivers, which was about at 3000 meters. So, these very high impact, very high speed have caused the melting of the broken ice, and then also carried

out the lots of sediments along the way.

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ANDERSON: -- this, as we move through the hours, so you are watching "Connect the World". And we're going to keep a close eye on what's going

on. Coming up next, though, we are following closing arguments in the triple murder trial of Lindsay Clancy. We'll get you an update on that up

next.

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ANDERSON: Well, we're still following the fallout from that deadly flooding on the Nepal-China border just yesterday, and joining me now from Kathmandu

is Sagar Pandey, Founder and CEO of the Himalayan Glacier Adventure and Travel Company. And Sagar, I know that you've lost contact, as I understand

it, with your tour group of 47 people.

We tried to talk just before the break and had a technical issue. So just get us up to speed, if you will, on what you understand to have happened to

this group and your co-workers sounds if he's dropped out again. Can you hear me, Sagar?

PANDEY: Yes. I can hear you.

ANDERSON: Yeah, great. OK. I'm going to -- but perhaps if we keep you out of vision and I continue to show some of these videos, that may help you.

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PANDEY: Yeah.

ANDERSON: Help us provide a little bit more stability for you. So, what do you understand to be the current status of those in your tour group, sir?

Do you know anything about them at this point?

PANDEY: No, that's still -- No contact, no phone, nothing. So, their families and friends are calling, and loved ones calling. You know, since

yesterday morning. So that's no clue. That's myself, I've been on the affected area yesterday with a chopper to spot out their location and where

they stayed in that night and in the morning.

ANDERSON: Yeah.

PANDEY: So, since you know 8o'clock, the last time I spoke with them. Since then, they are totally disconnected. Even my staff and all the clients.

ANDERSON: So, where were your tour group from? Where were most of the people from? Where are the co-workers from? And where were they very

specifically when this flooding happened?

PANDEY: So that's there were pretty mix and like 10 Nepalese people, you know, 15 Australian, 8 Americans, and Canadians, 2 Singaporean peoples. So,

11 people were traveling from the place called Syabrubesi all the way towards the Nepal-China border called Rasuwagadhi, and 36 people they

stayed in Rasuwagadhi at the hotel named Hotel Kailas.

So, they're having the breakfast when the you know flood happening.

ANDERSON: And what are you hearing you know about what's going on the ground very specifically. I know you're not in contact with your group. Are

you in contact with authorities? What can they tell you at this point?

PANDEY: Well, that's because so far, what I know, that's you know every human-built thing has been swept away, and nothing is left over. So only

that's 100, 150 people are stand up in the top of the hills who can ran away and who notice earlier that the flood is coming.

So only survival we have seen that, and then we have been talking with the authorities closely. And still we don't have the total missing people

number and the date bodies and you know evacuated persons, but so far, some numbers have been released, and that is not accurate in my observations.

Plus, you know, over 7000 people must be missing. You know, in my -- you know guess.

ANDERSON: So, the official numbers that we've got at present are very likely to rise, and we've been saying that. I mean, we have to report the

official numbers, of course, and we will continue to do that until we get further detail from authorities.

PANDEY: Yeah.

ANDERSON: But you know, as you describe what you understand to have happened on the ground, so we have to expect that these numbers are going

to go higher.

PANDEY: Yeah.

ANDERSON: I mean, just how risky is the area, to your mind? You know, on an average day. I mean, it's monsoon season at present area that has seen this

sort of flooding in the past a number of times in the past. You know, an area that's not unfamiliar to flooding, but not this sort of catastrophic

event that we've seen.

Just fill us in a little bit more about what you understand.

PANDEY: Yeah. You know, last year flood also just like once month before, like this time of the years, so that we were expecting same sorts of flood,

not this catastrophic peak flood at all, and because it's I can imagine that is 20 more stronger than the last year floods, and because above the

road, you know, over 100 feet of the slope has been cut off by the flood.

So that is -- there is rarely possibilities to survive the people, even they ran away from the -- in a road up to the hills. So, it is -- we cannot

believe this.

ANDERSON: Yeah, it's a very desperate situation, isn't it? Nepali authorities are warning residents of the potential for another flood surge.

I mean, what's the current state of survivors, as you understand it, those who were displaced by this disaster? I mean, what's your sense if this were

to be repeated and any stay soon?

PANDEY: I think further years, people cannot leave over there. I think this valley going to be on man forever because you cannot establish the human

settlement there because if there's things happening and it is true this case nobody going to go there and live for the life there because that's

going to be happening in the future.

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ANDERSON: All right. Well, look, I'm going to let you go. We have to hope for the best for those who were traveling with your tour group, and of

course your co-workers who were there on the ground. So, we wish you the very best. Thank you very much indeed for joining us.

PANDEY: Thanks for having me. Thank you.

ANDERSON: -- Thank you. Well, let's get you up to speed on some of the other stories that are on our radar right now. And Qatar's Prime Minister

in Tehran today, he is set to meet with the Iranian officials there that they are negotiating with as a key mediator in Qatar hopes to de-escalate

tensions as the U.S.-Iran conflict nears, of course, its six months.

The U.S. and Iran have paused attacks, but there's yet to be a breakthrough in peace talks. In the next hour, online influencers Andrew Tate and

Tristan Tate are set to appear in court. A judge will consider if the brothers should stay in federal custody in Miami, in Florida, while they

challenge their extradition to the United Kingdom, the pair are facing a combined 59 sex crime charges in the UK.

And they have previously denied the allegations. Well closing arguments this hour in the Lindsay Clancy triple murder trial, set to about now.

Clancy has pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity to first degree murder charges. The jury must decide if she acted with knowledge of what she was

doing when she strangled her three children, or if she was suffering postpartum psychosis. This report from CNN.

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JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The final witness for the prosecution in their rebuttal case was from the FBI. He is a forensic psychiatrist in the

behavioral analysis unit. His focus was on that day, January 24th of 2023. Take a listen.

DR. GREGORY SAATHOFF, FORENSIC PSYCHIATRIST: The activities that she engaged in that day, spending time with her children with Play-Doh, taking

them outside to build a snowman, sending photographs of the children to her mother to her husband on Instagram, fixing lunch and also fixing dinner for

the children.

So, the activities of that day were controlled.

CASAREZ: Kevin Reddington, Defense Attorney, has zealously defended his client. Here's what he said right after court yesterday afternoon.

KEVIN REDDINGTON, ATTORNEY FOR LINDSAY CLANCY: I hope to convey that I truly, you know, care and love. I love her. She's just such a marvelous,

sweet, innocent person. She's just amazing and so strong, and just trying so hard to get up from.

She's just been beat down for 3.5 years, and she feels that she's had a fair trial with the judge, and the jury's been very attentive, and all we

can do is hope for the best.

CASAREZ: There are quite a few charges going to the jury, first degree premeditated murder, second degree intent to kill murder, manslaughter, and

not guilty by a lack of criminal responsibility or mental insanity.

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ANDERSON: That report, from Jean Casarez reporting from -- Massachusetts. Still to come on the show, U.S. stock markets kick off a new day in a few

minutes, and the talk is of Nvidia's blockbuster earnings and what they tell us about the AI boom. More on that is coming up.

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ANDERSON: Welcome back. You're watching "Connect the World". I'm Becky Anderson in Abu Dhabi. Let's get you the headlines and our top story this

hour. International scientists believe a glacier avalanche may have triggered the flash floods that killed at least 356 people, left more than

one 300 missing Wednesday along the Nepal-China border, and those numbers are expected to go higher.

CNN has obtained satellite images and videos that show how the deadly flash flooding unfolded. Investigative Reporter Yahya Abou-Ghazala has this story

for you.

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YAHYA ABOU-GHAZALA, CNN INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER (voice-over): Catastrophic flash flooding has devastated parts of Nepal and China, with the death toll

still rapidly increasing and hundreds more, still missing. Here's what we know about how the flood began and where it spread.

At 08:37 a.m. local time in this area, a massive landslide of ice and rocks caused intense shaking. Take a look at this satellite image captured after

the landslide and reviewed by CNN, though covered largely by clouds, you can see where scientists believe a chunk of a glacier sheared off the

mountain.

The falling rock and ice carved a 3,000-foot-wide, four-mile-long gash into the slope below it, all the way down to the river the flood would run

along.

UMESH HARITASHYA, DIRECTOR OF SUSTAINABILITY PROGRAM AT THE UNIVERSITY OF DAYTON: This is massive. This is something that we have not seen quite

often. Just the flood wave, the amount of water that was gushing through these valleys, is going to have a major impact for significant amount of

the time down the road.

ABOU-GHAZALA (voice-over): Researchers are still investigating exactly how the landslide triggered such a large current, as the flooding tore through

several locations. This security camera footage at the Nepal-China border captured floodwaters overrunning the crossing, including a five-story

building.

And further downstream, you can see people running to higher ground as they try to escape. The heavy floodwaters also ran right through residential

areas along the riverbed, and in other locations, it completely destroyed infrastructure, like this video that shows the water breaking apart an

entire bridge and sweeping it into the current.

HARITASHYA: We can't pinpoint to one incident and say that climate change caused this particular incident, but it would be foolish to ignore the role

of climate change in any of these events. The climate change role has been clear in terms of warming the slopes and melting the glaciers in that

region.

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ANDERSON: And more, of course, as we get it. Well, turning now to the latest business headlines out of the United States. And we're just moments

away from the opening bell on Wall Street, with traders digesting the latest snapshot of the U.S. jobs market. The numbers have been released

ahead of the markets in the last hour.

Jobless claims fell to 203,000 last week. That's down 4,000 from the prior week, and significantly below the 210,000 predicted. Well, investors will

be keeping an eye on those and also looking at what is going on with Big Tech as Wall Street, it seems, is still betting big on the AI boom.

But tech pioneer Bill Gates warns AI needs to be subject to significant limits, or else he says, the harm it may do will outweigh any potential

good. Here's what he told my colleague Anderson Cooper.

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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Bill, you said that there's no plan to ease the entry into the AI era, and that we underestimate the impact of AI. In

what way?

BILL GATES, CO-FOUNDER OF MICROSOFT: Well, over the last year, these AIs have gotten dramatically more powerful, even faster than I expected. And

they're now capable of causing cyber-attack risk, bioterrorism risk, psychosocial risk.

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And I have to say I'm kind of shocked that the exact criteria that we review these models with, and the actions we take to minimize the harms,

are really completely missing. And the broad dialog we get all of society talking about the trade-offs here, that's just not taking place.

And so, you know, we've got to minimize these harms through careful review and criteria. And we have to accelerate the good stuff, or else I know we

could have a complete backlash that AI would suffer from.

COOPER: One of the things you write, you said this is either going to be the greatest equalizer ever invented, or the worst source of injustice.

Which one do you think it is right now if you had to guess, which one is going to be?

GATES: I still think it's within our grasp to shape this in a net positive way. You know, when I think about having a virtual doctor for someone in

Africa who would never meet a doctor, or already I'm seeing for the farming case that the Gates Foundation is driving, we're getting really great

advice about weather and seeds down to these individual farmers in their native language.

COOPER: Yeah.

GATES: And so, you know this is it -- you know, it's like when nuclear came along. Is it nuclear weapons or is its nuclear energy? This is 1000 times

bigger and has both that the negative aspect and the positive coexisting in the same technology.

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ANDERSON: That's Bill Gates speaking to my colleague Anderson Cooper. So, while there are plenty of questions about where AI is headed, it does

appear Wall Street is still all in. The latest numbers from Nvidia, considered, of course, a bellwether for the sector, just blew past

expectations with 96 billion dollars in quarterly revenue.

That's more than double what it made a year ago. Well, the opening bell has just rung on Wall Street about a minute and a half into the trading day,

and the three big indices are doing this, the DOW off just a little bit, the S&P and the NASDAQ both trading slightly higher.

Well, my next guest says this about Nvidia's blockbuster earnings, quote, the crazy thing about it is the actual numbers themselves almost don't

matter anymore. Saying that the revenue growth its reporting was already foreseeable because of Nvidia's long-running contracts.

Bob O'Donnell, joining us now, is President and Chief Analyst at TECHnalysis Research. So, you say the numbers are almost sort of beside the

point at this stage. So, did the earnings actually really tell us anything important, anything that we didn't already know? What do you take as the

big takeaways?

BOB O'DONNELL, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF ANALYST AT TECHNALYSIS RESEARCH: Well, first of all, Becky, thank you for having me. Look, you know, I said what I

said because the bottom line is it didn't really tell us a whole lot more.

ANDERSON: Yeah.

O'DONNELL: Most people knew that this was going to happen. The situation with Nvidia and where we are with this whole idea of AI infrastructure,

it's an era of growth in a technology that we've never seen or witnessed before, so no one's really quite sure how to react to it.

It's become very much of an emotional issue. It's driven by, you know, how many people think this is going to move forward versus not the confidence

that these long-term contracts are giving people. It's a fascinating thing to watch.

ANDERSON: And Nvidia stock up about 6 or nearly 7 percent just over 7 percent actually today. It was slightly lower, you know, when the numbers

were originally released after the market closed yesterday, but once the investor call was made and you know the big funds had heard some really

bullish thoughts from its management about where its future growth may lead, the shares rising, and we have seen those rise again.

So, you know, as we paint a picture further out, and as you say, you know, it's very difficult to know what's going on with this market because it's

so new. What are we learning from Nvidia?

O'DONNELL: I mean, what we're learning is the fact that you know the reason the stock moved as much as it did. I believe is because they said we're

going to actually predict next year's growth, the entire year, and we think it's going to be up 70 percent, which was significantly higher than the

Wall Street folks were thinking.

So that one element, that one single number, provided the confidence that I think the market was looking for, because again, everybody keeps thinking

there's no way this can continue. There's just this momentum isn't possible. We've never seen this before. We don't know how to react to it,

and yet it continues, and it continues strongly.

ANDERSON: Yeah.

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O'DONNELL: And the fascinating thing about Nvidia, as you said, they are a bellwether for the entire industry, but they are now investing much beyond

chips. They're providing financial backstops for companies, of course, who are buying their chips. That's raising the issue of circular financing.

But they're also investing in power companies, in companies with land. They're trying to put together companies who want to build data centers

that, of course, would purchase their chips with the finances they need because their credit is beyond the value of gold.

ANDERSON: Yeah.

O'DONNELL: I was going to say it's like gold, but it's past gold, and so they're leveraging that to try and provide the financial backing that its

customers are going to need, and that in turn is driving an even bigger picture story.

ANDERSON: And that's what's really important here, isn't it? I mean, they're investing effectively across the whole kind of infrastructure, and

assuming with those growth projections for 2028 that, that spend by others on you know GPUs, the core product from Nvidia, will continue.

I guess you know the growth forecast suggests that spend does continue going forward. We are though facing midterms at this point, and data

centers squarely in the crosshairs for so many lawmakers in areas where these big data centers are expected to be established.

How do you think the politics might play into any sort of future growth forecasts at this point?

O'DONNELL: Well, that is a great question, Becky. And indeed, especially in the U.S. of course, we've seen a lot of pushbacks around data centers. And

if all the data center growth that people are expecting gets stopped because of regulation, obviously that's going to be a huge factor and a

huge concern.

What's interesting with Nvidia is, of course, they're pushing that. That's where most of their business goes, but along the way, they have also been

pushing this idea of individual companies who already have existing data centers purchasing some of their own AI infrastructure.

So, the you know Coca Colas of the world and the Fords and all these standard businesses are purchasing some of this AI infrastructure to run

some of this on their own within their existing environments. Now again, much smaller piece of the puzzle, but still, something that they're helping

to drive in a longer-term vision.

They're doing the same thing. They just made an announcement with a little company called Perplexity yesterday, which provides software that lets you

run some of this on your own computer. If you have a powerful enough computer, you can do some of this stuff, they're working with companies who

are building the models that run on these chips as well.

So again, they are absolutely looking across that entire ecosystem. They're looking at all the markets. Not going to deny. Look, if the data center

thing becomes a huge political issue, which it clearly has become, that could be a big problem. But even -- they are even looking beyond that as

well.

ANDERSON: Got it. It's always good to have you, mate. Thank you very much indeed.

O'DONNELL: Thanks Becky.

ANDERSON: And we've just got some breaking news coming into CNN. So, I do want -- Leader of the Bosnian Serb Army, and infamously known as the

Butcher of Bosnia has died at the age of 84. Mladic was serving a life sentence for genocide and crimes against humanity.

Nic Robertson joins me now. Nic, you spent the last what 30 or 30 or 40 years, as it were, reporting on this guy. What do we know at this point,

about what happened?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yeah, look about what happened. We don't have any details yet about his death and what happened

in jail. Look, he'd been in jail there following his conviction in 2017, but he'd been in the jail since 2011.

So that's almost 15 years or so that has been in jail, an old man. He'd been on the run prior to that for about 16 years after the end of the

Bosnian War. And of course, that's where he developed that reputation, the Butcher of Bosnia, that Balkan war from 1992 to 1995, where he commanded

the Bosnian Serb forces.

They had Sarajevo surrounded below them. Mladic was filmed on the hillside there, telling the Serb forces to shell the city, shell the civilians.

Look, we were there. We witnessed it. I was there when Mladic was caught. Saw him arrive for trial in The Hague. Watched him sit in the trial at The

Hague.

And there were parents and family members of victims there in that court room as he was giving testimony. There they were sitting just a few feet

away on the other side of thick glass.

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And Mladic was still defiant, gesturing like this, the throat cutting motion to these family members of people who he'd been responsible for

killing, tens upon tens of thousands of Bosnians killed. Srebrenica stands out in everyone's mind. More than 7000 Bosnian men and boys, women as well,

who've been hiding out in this U.N. protected enclave for over three years in Bosnia.

That was the sort of epitome and the moment where the world, following the discovery of the mass grave, began to realize what was happening and

actually take some action, which brought about an end to the war. But Mladic, his -- for his surviving family members of victims, they're never

going to forget that man.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't be afraid. No one will do anything to you.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): This is how the world will remember Ratko Mladic, calming crowds of civilians ahead of the biggest mass murder in Europe

since World War II, a genocide he engineered, and would go on the run for a decade and a half before being captured and brought to trial.

It was July 1995, in the Bosnian town of Srebrenica. The country's bloody civil war was in its third year. Mladic commanded the Bosnian Serb army.

His forces brutally slaughtered more than 7,000 Muslim men and boys from Srebrenica. Mladic's central and blood-soaked role in the breakup of the

former Yugoslavia began years earlier.

A frontline commander in 1991 spearheading Serb forces against Croatia. Over the previous three decades, he'd risen rapidly through the ranks of

the Yugoslav army, but it was Bosnia's battlefields that made him hero to many Serbs, defender of their dwindling fortunes.

He was born in 1943 during the Nazis' World War II occupation, close to the crucible of much of his later killing, Bosnia's capital Sarajevo. He grew

up imbued with Serbian ideology of Orthodox Christian faith and defense of ethnic kin. He got his chance in May 1992.

Bosnia's Serbian political leaders picked him to head their forces. Bosnia's Muslim leaders wanted independence for Serbs to remain part of

Yugoslavia. Mladic laid siege to Sarajevo. Shelling and sniping its poorly prepared civilian population. More than a quarter million people died in

the course of the three-year war, leading to charges of war crimes, genocide, and crimes against humanity against Mladic.

When peace came in 1995, Mladic went on the run. In the early 2000s, he was still drawing an army pension in Belgrade. There were reports of sightings,

rumors of arrest, a stroke, even suicide. But eventually, in the summer of 2011, he was captured living on a Serbian farm with a cousin.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am General Ratko Mladic.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): At last, he was brought into the dock in the tribunal in The Hague. His right arm appeared limp, almost useless. During

the hearings that followed, he would complain of fatigue and illness, citing past heart problems. But Mladic remained combative and

uncooperative.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Mladic, if you --

ROBERTSON (voice-over): He was removed from court during his sentencing, shouting it was all, lies. In November 2017, he was convicted, handed life

in prison for genocide and crimes against humanity. His death ends one of the darkest chapters in Europe's recent history.

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ANDERSON: And that was Nic Robertson reporting. "World Sports" with Andy Scholes is up after this. I'm back with more "Connect the World" in 15

minutes.

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