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The Billionaire`s Latest Outrage: Trump Delivered A Speech Last Night in Dallas; Hot Car Dad About to Stand Trial for Having Murdered His Son; Nicole Arbour Lost A Big Job Because of Her Fat Shaming Video; #SuperFan is Trending; Viral Video of a Woman`s In-Flight Freak-Out. Aired 9-10p ET
Aired September 15, 2015 - 21:00 ET
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[21:00:13] DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST: Tonight, the big debate, less than 24 hours away, and Donald Trump cannot stop talking. We have the
billionaire`s latest outrage. Plus, hot car dad about to stand trial for having murdered his son, who cooked in a hot car.
It all starts right now with the "Top of the Feed." The Donald delivered a speech last night in Dallas, once again filled with Trumpisms. The crowd
was about 17,000. Take a look at this.
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You are the best around! Nothing is going to ever keep you down. You are the best around! Nothing is going to ever keep you down.
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DONAL TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDAE: Wow. Look at all these guys, paparazzi. Ayayay!
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Look at this. We got everybody here. For what I see these seats full up the top. Can you can people see me up there? I said do not fill up the
upper ring, because it is not fair. But they are filled up -- you are great. Thank you all.
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TRUMP: So -- the debate. I hear they are all going after me. Whatever. Whatever.
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TRUMP: By the way, can you see in the back. They have the best view. Can you see it is really my hair?
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TRUMP: Look at all those cameras back there. Take a look, everybody.
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TRUMP: Now, if you like the media, give them a big hand. And, if you do not, give them a big boo.
AUDIENCE: Boo.
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PINSKY: Joining us, Sam Schacher, host of "Pop Trigger" on Hulu.com. Lauren Lake back with us, Judge on "Paternity Court" season 3, premiers
Sunday -- Monday, excuse me, September 21. Pat Bullard, T.V. host. He is also a writer of hit shows like "Roseanne" and "Reba."
Loni Cooms, former prosecutor, author of "You`re Perfect and Other Lies Parents Tell" and Ryan Sorba, head of the "Young Conservatives of
California." All right, Lauren, this is -- we missed you. You have not been around in a while.
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LAUREN LAKE, JUDGE ON "PATERNITY COURT": Yes. Glad to be back.
PINSKY: But, I have not heard from you about Donald Trump. What do you got?
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LAKE: You know -- look, what I loved is today in "The Washington Post," they transcribed that speech. I mean everybody is talking about that
speech. What they transcribed it. He is talking about a whole bunch of nothing. It is like verbal gymnastics.
SAMANTHA SCHACHER, HOST OF "POP TRIGGER" ON HULU.COM: Right.
LAKE: I do not understand -- Look, ain`t nobody getting fit, either. OK? Because, he is doing a whole bunch of gymnastics. Ultimately, he is a
performer. And, he is rallying everyone. He makes everybody feel good. He makes people laugh. He is in your face. He is like reality T.V., a
whole lot of pop, but not a lot of purpose.
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SCHACHER: Yes. Yes.
PINSKY: People usually say it is politics as usual. Is it possible that this is the new face of politics, that it is more entertainment, that it is
more social media, it is more something that is -- what did you call it? More pop than --
LAKE: A lot of pop and not a lot of purpose.
PAT BULLARD, T.V. HOST AND WRITER: There is, of course, there is a lot of pop, but the problem for me is that it is almost dangerous pop. The things
that he says are so dangerous and so flippant, and that is fine. If you are watching "The Apprentice" or if you are sitting around Donald`s
apartment, that is fine.
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PINSKY: As is your custom.
BULLARD: Yes, but it is dangerous.
PINSKY: Yes.
BULLARD: It is dangerous to say the things he says. He will not take responsibility. He will say something that is so flippant and so damaging
and then the next day, buy it back. That is my problem.
SCHACHER: Yes.
BULLARD: He is trying to buy things back the next day when people say --
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People say, "Do not say that." To me -- Honestly, to me, he is like a toddler. He is running around and he is saying all these bad words and bad
things. And, you have to sit him down and say, "Donald, we do not say those words."
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SCHACHER: But, what can --
PINSKY: I am going to get Ryan here. To maintain the toddler model, you always forgive the toddler. You go, "That is all right. He is just a
little kid" --
RYAN SORBA, HEAD OF THE "YOUNG CONSERVATIVES OF CALIFORNIA": Yes.
PINSKY: -- or whatever. He seems to be able to get by with just about everything. We were talking off the air -- will let you comment to this.
But, you and I were talking about some of things he said about women.
SCHACHER: Right.
PINSKY: And, you are not ready to forgive him, but a lot of people do.
SCHACHER: But, that is what concerns me, though -- really quickly, Dr. Drew, is the fact that people are celebrating his name calling, demeaning
women, marginalizing groups of people.
And, they justify it by saying, "OK, he is being unfiltered. He is calling people out." "Newsflash: You can be unfiltered and call people out
without hurling insults," because is that what we want from our president?
BULLARD: Yes.
LAKE: Right.
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PINSKY: People are gathering behind him with those very comments, Ryan.
SORBA: I mean, I just think that there is a double standard. I mean, you got leftists all over the country calling conservatives bigots, racists,
every other words. Look, these people are not bigots. They are not racist. They have rational disagreements.
Donald Trump`s speech was full of substance. He talked about the fact that we are getting ripped off by the Mexican government on Trade deals. China
is manipulating their currency.
We saw the stock market tank when the Chinese -- you know, we saw our stock market be dependent upon the Chinese stock market. Donald Trump has a lot
of substance, and he is, you know, he --
PINSKY: It is in this book you got me, right?
SORBA: Right.
PINSKY: Now, Loni, you said something really -- No, Ryan brought me a book, and it was largely built on people coming in this room and saying,
"Oh, there is no substance. There is no specifics."
[21:05:08] There is a fair bit of specifics in this book. But, Loni, you said something really kind of insightful in the makeup boot to me. A lot
of this goes on behind the scenes, evidently. But, go ahead. Let us go with you.
LONI COOMBS, FORMER PROSECUTOR: What did I say? What insightful? You know, I think that, first of all, we have to get beyond being offended by
the language that he is using. So much of our society is desensitized to that. It is not a big deal, and they are not going to hold him to calling
people stupid or using labels, because that is the way a lot of our society talks now.
PINSKY: You said --
SCHACHER: But, that is not good.
LAKE: No!
PINSKY: Wait. Wait a minute. But, you said we need to take him seriously is what you told me in the makeup booth.
COOMBS: We do need to take him seriously, because there is, as Ryan said, there is substance there. And, it is not just the people who watch reality
T.V. that are relating to him. There are people looking at the issues. They are saying, "Look, he is a billionaire. He is a smart businessman."
He is the only candidate that is talking about our national deficit, our huge debt that we could be bankrupt like Greece, like all these other
countries are being soon if somebody does not do anything about it. He is the only one talking about that.
SCHACHER: Well, first of all --
PINSKY: Let me get in to the data.
SCHACHER: Wait a second.
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PINSKY: I will let you respond. Here is the data. The latest poll of the republican voters, Trump is in the lead with 27 percent. Ben Carson has
recently come in just behind at 23. Jeb Bush has slumped from 13 to 6 percent, Sam.
SCHACHER: Yes, but, then 56 percent of Americans, if you just saw in that previous --
PINSKY: Screen.
SCHACHER: -- screen, do not think he is qualified for president. And, you mentioned his attitude. I am sorry. This is the president of our country.
I do not want children looking to him as their example. I do not want him negotiating with other world leaders with that same type of character flaw.
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COOMBS: I understand --
BULLARD: And, that is dangerous.
LAKE: And, when you go to other countries, a lot of times people say, "Americans, we are arrogant. We do not have a worldview. We lack that.
We are very self-centered." And, now, we are going to have a president that represents that notion? I do not care if he is selling Slurpees on
the Serengeti. I am not buying it.
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PINSKY: Let us talk to the audience. Sir, go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Personally, I love Donald Trump. I love that he is unfiltered. I think that Americans are tired of
politicians and all their lies, and we want to hear the truth.
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PINSKY: Wait, wait, wait.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We want to hear it unfiltered.
PINSKY: Wait, wait, wait, everybody.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We do not want anymore PC.
PINSKY: OK. Now, here is what is cracking me up, because everyone goes, "Oh, no, no. The only people voting for Donald Trump are white men."
SCHACHER: Yes.
PINSKY: Are you white?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: No.
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PINSKY: No. No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I think Donald Trump loves black people.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
PINSKY: Well, he said that. He has said it. And, what is it -- why do not you hear what they are hearing, which is sort of, you know, sort of
marginalizing and scapegoating? You hear something you want to step behind.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Well, I think Donald Trump is real. He is a real American. He is a real businessman.
SCHACHER: I think --
BULLARD: I say, give him a week and you will change your opinion.
SCHACHER: I cannot wait.
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PINSKY: People have been saying that for months in here.
LAKE: No, Dr. Drew. I cannot wait until he loses and then he starts talking about his supporters like he talks about women. My supporters
suck. Their signs suck.
SCHACHER: Yes.
LAKE: They did not do anything right.
BULLARD: Stupid. Everybody is stupid.
LAKE: Everybody is stupid.
PINSKY: Go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I do not know if he is going to be a good president. I do not even know if he is going to win as president, but
he is good for Washington.
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PINSKY: OK.
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BULLARD: I do not know that for like --
SCHACHER: But here is the --
BULLARD: -- for television.
SCHACHER: Here is the thing.
PINSKY: Stay right there.
SCHACHER: OK.
PINSKY: Go ahead.
SCHACHER: Here is the thing. You are buying his whole marketing campaign. He is a brilliant, brilliant savvy PR guy. OK? And, I think what he is
putting out there is this unfiltered. "I am not politically correct."
A lot of people are craving that, nowadays. I get it. It is refreshing. But, it does not mean that he is telling the truth. Here he is saying that
we should not deal with China yet. He gets his ties made in China.
PINSKY: The one thing that -- Oh, no, no. Bert, no, no. I want to him to stay there. The one thing that everyone --
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BULLARD: Dr. Drew loves black people.
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LAKE: That was funny. That was funny. That was funny.
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PINSKY: The one thing that people that have -- who know him -- I have met him. I have no -- I have horse in the race myself, but --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We love you too, Dr. Drew.
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PINSKY: Thank you. Thank you. But, everyone says he is very -- like object me, "Honest." That is what people -- a lot of people -- nobody has
accused him of lying.
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BULLARD: Yes, but people, I think, is misinterpreting sort of --
SCHACHER: I think it is all part of his scheme.
BULLARD: -- sloppiness and dangerous speak as being honest.
SCHACHER: Yes.
LAKE: Exactly.
BULLARD: It is not honest. It is dangerous.
PINSKY: OK. But, here is the one thing this gentleman is saying, that is why I made him keep the mic, is that you are tired of politicians -- you
are tired of gridlock. You are tired of people being beholden to special interests. You are tired of all that, right?
SCHACHER: I get that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Sometimes being honest is very dangerous.
PINSKY: Yes, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is.
PINSKY: And, here is the deal though. This, I think, is what this election is all about, what he is articulating that people are sick and
tired of politics as usual.
SCHACHER: Yes.
PINSKY: And, the wheel has turned. Something new is going on.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It does.
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PINSKY: I got to break. I got to break here. We will keep this going. Later on, I am going to get to hot car dad. He is about to stand trial for
leaving a 2-year-old to die in what amounts to an oven. We are back after this.
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TRUMP: That is all they do is debate. They debate all over the place and nothing happens. I am not a debater. I get things done.
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LYNETTE "DIAMOND" HARDAWAY, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER (via Skype): We do not need no so soft-spoken president. We need somebody where their voice
resonates. When they speak, you are going to stand up and listen.
ROCHELLE "SILK" RICHARDSON, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER (via Skype): That is right.
DIAMOND: That is why we look at Donald Trump and that is why we syump for Trump.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He did not just come in as a snowflake, he came in like an avalanche.
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TRUMP: I have tremendous energy, tremendous, to a point where it is almost ridiculous when you think about it.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Please tell me a candidate that has outlined his policy more so than Donald Trump.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He is going to make America great again regardless of the color of your skin.
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TRUMP: Nobody is going to be able to do the job that I am going to do. Nobody. They will not.
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[21:15:00] PINSKY: And, behind those words, support is growing. They are loud. They are passionate. We see them here regularly. I am back with
Sam, Lauren, Pat, Loni and Ryan. And, Lauren, apparently, I am becoming a Trump expert because I hear on the radio and both on my KABC program and
here every night people are standing up and they are telling me why they are following him. What they feel about it. And, it is not -- well, Sam
is bristling already. But, do not you -- you are learning something, too, right?
SCHACHER: I just --
PINSKY: I mean it is not what we expect.
SCHACHER: No. I get it. They are really excited that somebody is honest, but you can also be thoughtful when you are honest. Sorry --
LAKE: No. No. No. I completely agree. When I see him sometimes, of course, he is charismatic. I mean we have watched him on television for
years. He has been a successful entertainer. I see it ultimately -- what I see, I see the same qualities I would see in a bully.
SCHACHER: Yes.
LAKE: You know, a bully is very charismatic. People follow bullies. You know, they fear them.
BULLARD: And, bullies have --
LAKE: They think this person can protect me because I feel fear, but that does not mean they are right.
BULLARD: And, when bullies have an encounter in the schoolyard, they call you stupid. They call you dumb. It is so childish and the attacks on
women are the part that really shocked me the most.
SCHACHER: Yes.
BULLARD: For him to say -- when he kept saying last week, "Look at that face. Look at that face."
LAKE: Stop.
PINSKY: Carly Fiorina.
BULLARD: Do not pretend for a second that you were not saying what you is saying.
SCHACHER: But he is honest.
BULLARD: And, the next day, he says, "Oh, no, I was talking about her charisma. She has no charisma. That is why I said look at her face."
SCHACHER: Yes. Yes.
PINSKY: Loni, you have an opinion about that? -- No, Loni first.
COOMBS: I do. And, I have to say, two months ago, I was sitting here saying the exact same thing. This is not the way I want my president to
be. This is not the representative I want going out into the world. But, I tell you, after watching the show last night --
PINSKY: Our special. That is our special.
COOMBS: Yes. Yes. And, kind of a being objective observer, there has been a switch. There has been a change. It is no longer politics as
usual. It is a new game, and the new game is all that stuff is outdated. It is old.
It is, who is going to be there? How are they going to stand up and be tough and be forceful and stick up for me and make me and this country
successful and wealthy?
SCHACHER: Wow.
COOMBS: And, people are really buying into this.
PINSKY: I have an audience member. Do you agree with that?
SCHACHER: Yikes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I think the Trump is honest. He is honestly riding on a cloud of his own ego. I think that you people who are
not millionaires, where is he leading you, exactly? Because, what you are talking about is putting this man in charge of your retirement, your
healthcare, your taxes, your future, and he is not speaking to that. So, I do not know where you are going with him.
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PINSKY: Well, OK. All right.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I would like to know.
PINSKY: Ryan, you say it is all -- I have not read the book, yet.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Nobody votes for a president off the table of contents. We are talking about -- what is he representing? We do
not know.
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PINSKY: I know. Let me give Ryan a chance.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We do not know.
PINSKY: I want to see Ryan -- See if Ryan has something more. Ryan.
SORBA: Donald Trump is surging in the polls. More people than ever before are standing behind Donald Trump. And, it is because he is talking about
the problems that most Americans feel like that they -- that America have.
Honestly, openly, he is letting everybody know exactly what is going on. Look, we need a wall on the Mexican border. We got so many people coming
in here. According to ICE, one in five of these illegal aliens has committed a crime.
SCHACHER: Illegal aliens --
SORBA: It is going to be the golden wall of Donald Trump. It is going to cause $5 billion --
SCHACHER: Even calling them illegal aliens dehumanizes them. --
LAKE: Oh my God!
SORBA: It is a drop in a bucket the amount of money we are going to save when he renegotiates our deals with Mexico, when he renegotiates our deals
with China. And, that is going to bring jobs back to the united states of America. And, that is going to be a good thing for everybody. You are
going to see --
PINSKY: And --
SORBA: He will continue to rise in the polls.
PINSKY: OK. But, the thing that makes us all shake our head is, again, the rhetoric. You know, the kinds of things he says.
SCHACHER: The rhetoric.
PINSKY: But those that come after him, that take him on --
BULLARD: But --
PINSKY: Like if somebody -- Like one of his opponents goes after him, they fall in the polls. You know what I am saying?
SORBA: Yes.
PINSKY: And, so I am wondering who is going to take him on the debate.
BULLARD: But just because it is a new kind of delivery, just because it is a person saying words like people are stupid and women blah, blah, blah,
the things they say. It does not mean it is new. It does not mean it is refreshing and the truth. It is just loud.
SCHACHER: Yes.
BULLARD: It is loud.
PINSKY: Well, it feels different. Go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It may be loud, but when MS-13 gang Graffiti is all over your neighborhood and you have no control over it, you
got people that are taking the places of our kids, African-American kids from this -- in our little Los Angeles, UCLA takes all kinds of people from
out of town, that is a public university.
And, then dream actors come in front of our kids? You have to think about what is happening for America. If the gross national product is not
staying in the United States, we are done. And, if the money keeps flowing out to China, to --
PINSKY: Hold on. Is it American exceptionalism that we miss and we want that back? Is that what you are saying, that you want to be just
considered first and not be a global community member? You want to be a winner the way he wants us to win?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I think we need to take care of at home first before we become a global member anywhere. NAFTA AND CAFTA did
not help this country. And, by the way, a democratic brought us those.
PINSKY: OK. All right.
SCHACHER: I am a little offended that every time we talk about undocumented workers or in your words illegal aliens or immigration, that
somehow that is painted with a broad stroke that they are criminals, that they are gang members. That is so far from the truth.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER (no mic): INAUDIBLE
PINSKY: Yes, ma`am.
SCHACHER: That is so far from the truth.
PINSKY: But for her it is a truth, because living amongst it.
SCHACHER: So, what about all the hard working people out there, Dr. Drew? Are you kidding me?
LAKE: Right.
PINSKY: I know. How about the moms and dads of the people --
SCHACHER: Unbelievable.
PINSKY: Go ahead.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: OK. Let us face it. I understand that we need a president that tells the truth and all that other stuff.
But, I do not want Donald Trump as my president.
PINSKY: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He has no tact, no cue.
SCHACHER: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Do you want somebody, who is going to lead us to World War III because they do not know how to talk to somebody?
(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
SCHACHER: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: What have you done for us? All his casinos in Atlantic City are bankrupt, but he is talking about he is going
to help turn this around. You go to the polls. You do not debate. You have said nothing that anybody can get behind except for --
PINSKY: All right. Let me have Ryan. Let us have Ryan speak to it.
SORBA: Look -- Look, in Donald Trump`s book, "Get Tough America" --
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I do not want to read a book. I want him to get up there and tell us.
SORBA: No. Listen. In Donald Trump`s book, "Get Tough America," he says that he passionately loves America. When you are passionately --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: OK. So, why cannot he passionately - -
SORBA: Listen. When you passionately love something, you defend it passionately.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Absolutely.
SORBA: And, you do so with vigor and with energy and Donald Trump people have felt loves America. And, Dr. Drew tapped into it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: OK, so --
SORBA: Dr. Drew tapped into it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: OK. Let me answer the question.
SORBA: People feel shut down. Listen. You will not even let me talk. People feel shut down.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: You will not let me finish.
SORBA: People feel shut down by the PC police.
PINSKY: OK.
SORBA: By the speech Nazis. And, they are done and they are ready to rise up and take this country back.
PINSKY: I think Ryan is on to something.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Everybody is referring to read the book. Read the book. Why is not he up here saying on the news, what his
stance in like everybody else is?
PINSKY: Well, I would argue that, that is because this is the time in the evolution of a campaign where you are supposed to be vague, right?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Right.
PINSKY: Is not that what they always -- Because if you get too specific, he s going to get attacked on the debate -- on the debate platform. Where
if he is vague --
LAKE: Also, is he being PC? I thought PC was outdated?
PINSKY: I think he is being strategic in a way.
LAKE: Indecency --
PINSKY: But, Lauren, do not you think he is on to something about people being tired about the thought police and the language police?
LAKE: But, what I am getting at is that then be consistent about that. OK. So, if everyone else is being vague right now because that is the
politically correct thing to do and the way campaigns are run, get in there and give us some specifics.
SCHACHER: Yes.
LAKE: Stop getting up there talking about nonsense for 2 minutes.
PINSKY: I am with you, but what about what Ryan said about people being fatigued by the thought police and the language police. I think that is
where this all started.
LAKE: OK. And, you know what? I do not -- you know, quite frankly, some parts of what he is saying and Loni, I do not disagree with. People are
tired of the status quo.
PINSKY: Yes.
LAKE: However, how we rectify that --
PINSKY: Yes.
LAKE: -- is important. And just getting out there and being irresponsible with our speech, insulting people --
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SCHACHER: Yes.
LAKE: Just because it is not politically correct does not mean we should just buy into that.
SCHACHER: Right.
PINSKY: Yes, ma`am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Hi, good afternoon. Thank you for having me here. One thing that I am really sick and tired of is everyone
calling people my color, Mexicans.
LAKE: Thank you.
SCHACHER: Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We have people from Peru, from Chile --
PINSKY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: -- from Nicaragua.
PINSKY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Costa Rica. We have people from Canada. We have people from all over the world.
PINSKY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, I want to clarify some things.
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MS-13 is not a trucha. Those are Salvadorans not Mexicans.
PINSKY: All right.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: OK? Another thing that I want to say -- Salvadorans not Mexicans. Another thing that I want to say is that --
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: But -- Please --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: -- if you go to Europe, you call people from Europe, Europeans. If you go to Africa, you call people from
Africa, Africans. So, people from North America, South America, Central America are all Americans. I am an American, not Mexican --
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Where do you fit on the Trump spectrum? I am just curious. Are you sort of behind some of things he is saying? Are you very objected of
the stuff --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I am very objected to everyone calling people my color, Mexicans.
PINSKY: I get that. I have spoken about that a number of times, because that is a very naive way to think about things to think about Hispanics as
Mexicans --
SCHACHER: But Trump is giving license to people to think that way.
PINSKY: No, because --
SORBA: Yes -- No, but the issue is the Mexican border --
PINSKY: But, I want to know what your -- so you have all these issues, who are you going to vote for? Do not know?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I will keep it to myself.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: OK. Can you can relate to what he is saying. Does it do anything for you? Does it inspire you in any way? Does it make you interested in
the process?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It does not really inspire me.
PINSKY: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It actually makes me angry.
PINSKY: OK. Good. I just -- I am just curious about the whole phenomenon right now, where we are in this process? What Trump clearly is tapped into
something. You cannot say he did not. And, he got us all looking at the political process 18 months sooner --
SCHACHER: 12.
PINSKY: Well, certainly, 12 months sooner than we probably normally would have. This audience is still lining up to participate. Should I go to
break? All right. Go more. OK. Go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. I also wanted to speak to -- you know, you mentioned the dream act. And, my spouse recently applied for
deferred action. And, it is really hard program to get into. You have to pass criminal background check. They have to make sure you have no gang
affiliations. And, again, Trump just -- his rhetoric makes it so people get violent and hateful towards Hispanics and --
[21:25:14] PINSKY: Is that true. Then he should have no Hispanics behind him then. None. But he has a lot.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. He should have none.
PINSKY: How many Hispanics here in the room? Let us just quickly -- we got one, two, three, four, five. Any of you behind Mr. Trump? So, about -
- None? Almost half.
SCHACHER: One.
PINSKY: Like two-third. No, those two, and there was five. And, so, you know, there were not a lot of Hispanics in the room, right now. But,
again, I doing a quick count. Listen, are we leaving this topic? Are we doing another block?
All right. I am going -- soon -- I am not sure what we are going to do the next block. But, soon I will be talking about hot car dad. He is getting
close to trial. Did he leave that little boy in the SUV to die on purpose with premeditated malice or is it a horrible, horrible accident? Back
after this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: Justin Ross Harris is charged with three counts of murder, including malice murder. Harris told police he forgot to
take 22-month-old cooper to day care, instead leaving him strapped in his car seat in Atlanta area office parking lot for nearly seven hours.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[21:30:02] UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Opened the back door. Pulled this child out. Laid him on the concrete. Tried to resuscitate him.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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MADDOX KILGORE, ROSS HARRIS ATTORNEY: Cooper`s death was a horrible gut wrenching accident.
He told police he forgot to take 22-month-old cooper to day care, leaving him in his car seat in an office parking lot for nearly seven hours.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: Investigators said they had evidence this father and husband yearned to be single, leading a sexually charge double
life with multiple women on the internet. Sexting even the day his son was dying.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE PROSECUTOR: Were photos being sent back and forth between these women and the defendant during this day while the child was
out in the car?
DETECTIVE PHIL STODDARD, COBB COUNTY POLICE: Yes. There are photos of his exposed penis, erect penis being sent.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: Justin Ross Harris also known as the hot car dad was in court today. He is accused of intentionally leaving his 2-year-old son in a hot
car for seven hours until the child literally cooked to death. Back with Sam, Lauren, Pat, Loni.
Pat, is it possible -- I mean, when I look at this, it is a tragedy. And, now, we are hearing about this dude sexting and carrying on, being
distracted. But, you know, putting aside our moral indignation, is it possible that this was just some sort of horrible tragedy, an accident?
BULLARD: Well, I suppose it is possible. It is so horrific this story, and it is so hard as a parent just to even hear those words of leaving a
child in a car for seven hours. It makes you tremble inside. It could have been an accident. I hope to God it was an accident, and if it was
not, I hope he burns in hell.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: He is in his own hell I am sure, losing his child, losing his wife. But, Loni, if you were going to murder a child, you would not leave
it in the back of a car and "Go, oops, I guess it was an accident." That is not premeditated. That is like some kind of weird foolishness if you
were actually intending it.
COOMBS: Yes. And, believe me, these hot car deaths happen a lot more than we know of.
PINSKY: Yes.
COOMBS: That we talk about. And, all kinds of parents do it for different reasons. They get distracted. They forget. I mean there is a lot of
different reasons. And a lot of times, they will catch them within a few minutes and go back and so it is not a death, but it happens more often
than we think by accident.
PINSKY: Well, Lauren, though, in this case --
SCHACHER: Not in this case.
PINSKY: You got this guy sexting multiple women. One of them apparently underage. And, so, I feel like -- it does not mean he is a murderer, but I
feel like, he did with the Ashley Madison things, which was "Yes, these dudes hacked in." That was illegal but damn, they got those guys.
LAKE: Well, I just struggle with the time frame. I do. As a mother, you know, I think about how often do I think of my child during the day? I
love you, Dr. Drew. I love this show. I love being here. I have thought about my child just sitting in this chair probably 10, 20 times. Did he
eat? Is he in his pajamas? What is he doing right now? Just as a parent. I do not know how you get gone for seven hours --
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
SCHACHER: Yes.
LAKE: -- out to lunch and you do not think to yourself, where is my baby? What is my baby doing?
SCHACHER: And, I read all the documents. And, let me tell you, there is so much evidence stacked up on this guy as opposed to him just having --
PINSKY: Sam, let me offer you a little more.
SCHACHER: OK.
PINSKY: Let me get this for Sam. Here are some of the internet searches just prior to the some you were talking about --
SCHACHER: There is much more, but this is part of it.
PINSKY: All right. So, here they are.
SCHACHER: Part of it.
PINSKY: Children`s deaths inside vehicles. Dangers of leaving someone in a hot car. Child free. How to survive prison. Age of consent. People
dying.
SCHACHER: Yes, those --
PINSKY: Weirdly, weirdly crazy --
SCHACHER: That is what he was Googling. And, then when he finally discovered that his child was dead in the back of his car -- oh, after
driving 20 minutes, he did not call 911.
He called three different people. One of those phone calls lasting six minutes. Then he gets out of his car. He starts screaming in a public
parking lot, "Oh, my God. I forgot that my kid was in the car." Then the police come. He yells at the police because they tell him to get off his
phone.
LAKE: Right.
SCHACHER: There is so many incidents that have taken place since then, even the conversations between him and his wife in the police station, two
life insurance policies on this child. The circumstantial evidence is through the roof.
PINSKY: And, is this -- is what we are looking at there, control room, is that -- yes, we have a new interrogation tape. It is a piece of the tape
showing Justin Harris in the interrogation. We just got this. It is him in the interrogation room. OK. It is from the day his son was killed. I
have not seen this. You are going to see this as we see it. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JUSTIN ROSS HARRIS, FATHER WHO LEFT HIS 22-MONTH-OLD INSIDE HIS CAR FOR SEVEN HOURS: I worked for Tuscaloosa Police for five years. I was not a
police officer.
STODDARD: What do you do for Home Depot?
HARRIS: Web Developer. I quit the police department to go back to school.
STODDARD: Web Developer? How did that go?
HARRIS: It is great. I like the job.
STODDARD: Are you a guitarist?
HARRIS: I am. I am the lead guitar at Stonebridge Church.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: So, it seems like, Loni, he is just trying to establish a rapport there before he really goes in for the guy. Yes, sir?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: As a father, I am totaled appalled. This man needs to be dropped off in the Sahara desert with no water.
PINSKY: That is what he did to his kid.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I mean this guy right here is ridiculous.
PINSKY: That is what he did.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: nobody wants to outlive their children, first of all.
PINSKY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, second of all, any responsible, loving parent would never ever let that occur.
PINSKY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: You are always thinking about your child. It is always number one.
PINSKY: I agree.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: That was premeditated. And, I feel in my opinion, it was premeditated and the guy is a sicko. He is a wacko.
The evidence is coming all out of the walls. He needs to be locked up and the key thrown away, for sure.
[21:35:06] PINSKY: And, certainly, again, that would feel good. Lauren, you adjudicate, you have defended people -- does that make them a murderer?
LAKE: Well, as a former criminal defense attorney, Loni is right. However, as I review these facts, I mean that Sam so eloquently laid out.
SCHACHER: Thank you.
LAKE: This is difficult from a defense perspective. And, I know Loni, you agree. She is nodding. This is very difficult because of the
circumstances surrounding the death. The searches, the length of time, even in the tape you just -- it gave me chills to watch that.
BULLARD: Yes.
LAKE: When your child is dead and it is a tragic accident and you cannot believe that happened, I need more inconsolable, frantic. I need
something. I do not want to hear about your church friend and the fact that you like your job. I do not care what questions they are asking.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: The audience is lining up here. Hang on, we will get you across the break. OK? We will keep the conversation going. Later, I got a video
of an in-flight freak-out. It is going viral. Back with that more after this.
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(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[21:41:18] KILGORE: Embarrassing things about his private life have been aired in the public, an attempt to make him look like a bad guy.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
STODDARD: He was having up to six different conversations with different women. The most common term would be sexting.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE PROSECUTOR: Did she send him a picture?
STODDARD: She did.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE PROSECUTOR: Of what?
STODDARD: She sent picture of her exposed breasts.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE PROSECUTOR: And did he send any pictures to her?
STODDARD: He did. He sent a picture of his exposed erect penis.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: What is being discussed there is Justin Ross Harris. He was apparently sexting with several women including that one, while his 2-year
old son slowly died. He was dying of hyperthermia in a hot car whose has been left for seven hours by his father. He says he forgot his son was in
the car.
Back with Sam, Lauren, Pat, Loni. His wife told police they were having intimacy issues. No kidding? And, according to text, she seemed to know
that he had been cheating. Lauren, is this just adding fuel to the fire?
LAKE: Look, I mean, as we think about a motive. Why would a person do this?
PINSKY: I cannot imagine.
LAKE: I do not understand. If you want a divorce, get a divorce.
PINSKY: Exactly.
LAKE: I mean what does this innocent child have to do with your marital situation?
PINSKY: Let me go to the audience. Yes, ma`am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I do not know this man, but I do know that a mother`s love is completely different than a father`s love. Because
if that was not true, we would not have so many single mothers. A lot of men can go on with their day without thinking about their child 24/7.
PINSKY: You are right. I have a panel with a man here. They can -- we can be not thinking about the child quite the way mom does. But we are not
--
BULLARD: Perhaps not quite the way but certainly as often. I could not imagine ever parking my car with my child in the back --
PINSKY: I get it.
BULLARD: I am saying is that it is so unthinkable. And, what you are saying is right. That is not something someone would do. So, they may use
that as a defense. Who would do this reprehensible crime?
PINSKY: Yes, ma`am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I just want to say that I have ADHD and I forget a lot of things, but I have never forgotten my keys in the car
let alone a human being.
SCHACHER: Right.
PINSKY: Right.
COOMBS: There you go.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: So, wait, wait. So, you are saying your point is, this would have to -- you are thinking this is volitional, like he intended this to happen?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Absolutely.
PINSKY: OK.
SCHACHER: Dr. Drew, he was searching numbers of times how to have a child- free life.
PINSKY: Yes.
SCHACHER: The benefits of having a child-free life. And, there was also a time where he was backing up, and this is captured on camera. The day that
poor Cooper was in the back seat.
He had to back into his work parking lot. And, they showed that Cooper was taller than the child seat in the back. So, for him to -- he had to look
back because he did not have a camera to back up.
LAKE: Exactly.
SCHACHER: So, he had to look back and look in the rearview mirror. Cooper`s head, they put a mannequin in there. Cooper`s head was over the
child seat. Come on, you, guys, like do the math.
LAKE: Right.
PINSKY: Yes, ma`am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. The lady just said that the mother`s love is different than a father`s love, and I do not believe that
for a second. Because my daughter has more love for me and her dad than she could possibly have, and for anyone in the world we love her more than
anything.
We never left her anywhere. She is 16 now. And, I would be afraid when I went to get gas -- I take my daughter with me out of the baby car seat and
bring her back. That is how terrified I am to leave her alone. And, that guy should just burn.
PINSKY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He should burn like the baby did. He should burn.
PINSKY: She was like -- my executive producer and me, we are anxious parents. Loni, I see your wheels turning. What are you thinking.
COOMBS: Well, I think the answer to Laren, why he did not just get a divorce. He want a child-free life.
SCHACHER: Yes.
COOMBS: He did not want his child. And, the most telling thing, which just came out, which will come into trial is when they said, "Hey, we are
charging you with murder." His first response was, "Well, there was no malicious intent."
PINSKY: Wow!
COOMBS: That is a legal defense right there.
LAKE: And, then you can do something called sign over your rights if you do not want to be responsible for your child. So, let us be clear. You do
not have to kill the baby.
PINSKY: There is a little more defense. He was deaf in one ear. Maybe he did not hear the baby crying.
[21:45:00] LAKE: Oh!
PINSKY: Yes sir, go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I think the guy is guilty as hell. Whenever there is something that comes out, all these things that come out
of the woodwork, he had two life insurance policies on the son.
PINSKY: The sexting kind of thing --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Who the hell puts a life insurance -- two on their son or their 2-year-old?
SCHACHER: Yes. That is insane.
PINSKY: That is a really good question.
SCHACHER: Right.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: So, when all these things come out of the -- all these different things, sexting, all this stuff. I am like you
are guilty. Right away, if somebody tells you the thing, you are just like, "I am not really sure.
But then once you start hearing more and more about it, come on. And, if something happened to me, even a dog, I would be dead. I would be on the
ground crying for days and weeks.
PINSKY: Yes.
SCHACHER: Yes.
PINSKY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: You cannot just come back from that.
PINSKY: Thank you. Nice comment.
LAKE: Right.
PINSKY: Good testimony. Right, Lauren?
LAKE: Well, exactly.
PINSKY: Yes. And, I will just say that there is something up with this guy. All of us feel it. Whether or not he is guilty of murder, whether he
premeditated this, I do not know.
BULLARD: Yes. Make no mistake, he is despicable.
PINSKY: I cannot get my head around. I cannot force myself to think about it being premeditated, even if he were a psychopath. And, again, we would
see evidence of that. And, he would have been more diabolical on how he pulled it off.
But, the fact that he is sexting. The fact that he seems to have no real grief. We would all be banging our head against the wall and tearing our
hair out. Something is not right here, and we all feel it.
SCHACHER: Yes.
PINSKY: Coming up. A woman goes berserk on an in-flight. Speaking of not right. I will talk about that. I will show you the video. It is going
viral. We are back after this.
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(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
PINSKY: Time for the "Click Fix," where my guests tell me what is trending on their Twitter, Facebook and Instagram feeds. And, Sam is first.
SCHACHER: OK. So, I have an update from the "Click Fix" that I shared last week about the YouTube comedian. Remember, she had that viral video.
The rant -- the fat shaming rant.
PINSKY: Yes.
SCHACHER: Watch.
PINSKY: Yes.
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NICOLE ARBOUR, YOUTUBE STAR: Dear fat people. Ahhhh, some people are really mad at this video. What are you going to do fat people? What are
you going to do? What? Are you going to chase me? I can get away from you by walking at a reasonable pace.
Fat shaming is not a thing. Fat people made that up. That is a race car with no race. "Yes, but I could not fit into a store. That is
discrimination." Nope. That means you are too fat and you should stop eating. Fat people parking spots should be at the back of the mall parking
lot. Walk to the doors and burn some calories.
And, they smell like sausages. And, I do not even think they ate some sausages. That is just their aroma. They are so fat that they are that
standing sweat fat. Crisco was coming out of their pores like a [EXPLETIVE WORD] Play-Do Fun factory.
Fat shaming, who came up with that? That is [EXPLETIVE WORD] brilliant. Yes, shame people who have bad habit [EXPLETIVE WORD]. Fat shaming.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SCHACHER: OK. So, what goes around comes around, because she lost a big job. Apparently, she was hired to be a choreographer on a new film. Now,
the film`s director, who has also been bullied, I guess when he was a child when he was gay. He says this. He said that he saw the fat shaming video
and he said, quote, "Never want to see her again."
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Good.
LAKE:
BULLARD: Good for him.
PINSKY: Pat, you are next.
BULLARD: All right. I love my thing. I love my thing.
PINSKY: I beg your pardon you are saying?
(LAUGHING)
BULLARD: It is high time this came out.
SCHACHER: Too much information.
BULLARD: Yes. Watch this video. We had horribly humid weather last week. That is big news in L.A. A reporter went out talking to people on the
street. Watch this.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
JIMMY KIMMEL, LATE NIGHT TALK SHOW HOST: It is so humid. Last night our local Fox 11 News team walked around talking to people about how hot it is.
This is what we do here in L.A. And, happened upon this colorful gentleman.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I think people are too much into air conditioning. I think we need to allow our body to adjust. You know, if
you go back 20, 40 years, not so many people had air conditioning. It is more a new thing. But think about like 100 years ago, who turns on the air
conditioning then?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Yes, but they were so sweaty. They probably did not look pretty 100 years ago, you know. I like to be refrigerated.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: I like to smell your sweat.
(LAUGHING)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: I did not see that coming.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(END VIDEOTAPE)
(LAUGHING)
SCHACHER: What?
BULLARD: Come on. That is a great pickup line if ever there was one.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(LAUGHING)
SCHACHER: That is good.
PINSKY: Lauren, I love you, but I do not want to smell your sweat.
LAKE: Oh no! OK. I do not want you to. All right, I got this. Now, that we are less than 24 hours from the next republican debate, #SuperFan
is trending, if you care. And, also, CNN had a brief encounter with two Trump Super Fans. You got to see this. Watch this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BARBARA TOMASINA, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER: I am wearing Trump. I have my Trump purse. You cannot show up at a Donald Trump rally and not make a
statement.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED 10-YEAR-OLD BOY TRUMP SUPPORTER: He is going to fix everything. I swear. The feeling of meeting your idol, you cannot just
replace it. You cannot go around it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: That kid is huge.
(LAUGHING)
LAKE: And then, wait. Look.
PINSKY: There is another one. Uh-oh.
LAKE: And, then there is this Jeb Bush super fan who alleges the Jeb for pres tattoo on his neck is real. I mean Dr. Drew, that has to hurt.
PINSKY: Yes.
LAKE: How would he get that right in that spot?
PINSKY: Neck tattoos are the worst.
BULLARD: Yes. He will be laughing when Jeb wins the whole thing, baby.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: All right. Next up, viral video of a woman`s in-flight freak-out. I will talk to you about it after this.
(MUSIC PLAYING)
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
PINSKY: Video of an in-flight freak-out is going viral. It is an in- flight freak-out. And, Pat, you were just saying, we seem to be seeing more of this these days.
BULLARD: I guess we are seeing more bad things because of cell phones.
PINSKY: I think so. And, like anything else, people have substance- related experiences on planes. They have mental health issues. And, in this case, a woman reportedly punched a man, sitting in front of her. Then
she grabbed and kiss a flight attendant and then punched her in the face.
SCHACHER: What?
LAKE: What?
PINSKY: She was then restrained by a fellow passenger, who described her as disoriented and sweating. I mean listen people are using Flakka now,
and that will make you do stuff like this. Bath salts could make you stuff like this, just being manic. Listen to her. Being manic, hypomanic --
Lauren you look horrified.
LAKE: I fly a lot. So, I am saying to myself, if I saw this woman on the plane having this moment, I mean that would really make me uneasy. And, I
am a pretty good flier. But, that is not what you want to see when you are about to go up in the air.
PINSKY: It is not. Then the captains, of course, will take the plane right down and land them and get these people off the plane.
LAKE: Oh, my goodness.
BULLARD: Like so many of these, the passengers are getting involved and tackling her.
PINSKY: Which I kind of love. I love the passengers are advocating being their own advocates. But, this woman, clearly, had a major serious mental
health issue.
SCHACHER: But, did you see the big slip of kissing to punching? What does that say to you?
LAKE: Yes, what is that?
PINSKY: It is disorientation psychosis.
SCHACHER: Yes.
PINSKY: You know, when people are psychotic, do not try to make sense of it. I always warn people.
SCHACHER: I always try to make sense of it.
PINSKY: Just think of it as their brain is seizing. They are doing things that are nonsensical. The woman was arrested for battery, recklessness,
other charges. But, I think you are going to see a mental health defense in this one. A reminder, we are on SnapChat. You can join us there. It
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DVR us, then you can please watch us any time. We would appreciate that. We do an after show on our Facebook page. The four of us will gather
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[22:00:00] I will decide at the last minute what we are going to talk about, but you can join us there. And, you can get involved on our
Facebook page. Thank you for watching. Thank you, audience. You guys were great today. Thank you, panel. I will see you next time.
(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
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