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Donald Trump, Did He Help Or Hurt Himself At The Debate?; Was This The Billionaire`s Last Stand?; Is His Inexperience Taking A Toll?; Who Told The Truth And Who Need Some Facts Checking, A Closer Look At The Candidates` Body Language; Donald Trump Refusing To Apologize To Jeb Bush`s Wife; Trump`s Biggest Supporter, Diamond And Silk Take On Trump`s Debate; Dr. Drew`s Own Secret Service Name
Aired September 17, 2015 - 21:00 ET
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[21:00:13] DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST: Tonight, Donald Trump, did he help or hurt himself at the debate. Was this the billionaire`s last stand?
Is his inexperience taking a toll? Plus my own secret service name and the Twitterer`s -- the Twitter`s hot debate guy. There he is.
And, it all starts right now with the "Top of the Feed." Donald Trump dominated the debate with 20 minutes of talk time. His first salvo on Rand
Paul was a non-answer to a question about trust and the nuclear code. Have a look.
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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: First of all, Rand Paul should not even be on this stage. He is number 11.
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RAND PAUL, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There is a sophomoric quality that is entertaining about Trump is visceral response to attack people on
their appearance, short, tall, fat, ugly.
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TRUMP: I never attached him on his look, and believe me there is plenty of subject matter right there.
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TRUMP: Governor Pataki, who by the way, was a failed governor in New York, a very seriously failed. He would not be elected dog catcher right
now. I was a businessman, I got along with plenty -- I got along with everybody. That was my job to get along with people --
JEB BUSH, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: But, the simple fact is --
TRUMP: Excuse me. One second --
BUSH: No. The simple fact is, Donald, you do not take --
TRUMP: Yes. OK. More energy tonight, I like that.
BUSH: When he asked Florida to have casino gaming. We said, "No."
TRUMP: Wrong.
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JAKE TAPPER, CNN CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Trump said the following about you, quote, "Look at that face, would anyone vote for that.
Mr. Trump later said, he was talking about your persona, not your appearance. Feel free to respond what you think about his persona.
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CARLY FIORINA, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr. Trump said.
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TRUMP: I think she got a beautiful face and I think she is a beautiful woman.
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PINSKY: Joining us, Gina Loudon, host of "American Trends" on YouToo America; Areva Martin, Attorney and legal commentator; Dondre Whitfield,
actor, spokesman for the Student African-American Brotherhood and Lisa Bloom, Civil rights lawyer at the Bloom Firm and legal analyst for
Avoo.com.
We also have Andy Dean, ConnectPal.com and former "Apprentice" contestant, who worked for Donald Trump. Gina, I am going to you first,
tell me about the winners and losers in the debate. Did Trump do himself any favors?
GINA LOUDON, HOST OF "AMERICAN TRENDS" ON YOUTOO AMERICA: I think Trump was Trump, and I think that is always doings himself a favors. I
think he drew audience. I wonder how many people here. They probably did watch the debate last night, would not have watched if Trump was not there.
So, I think --
PINSKY: Show hands. Show of hands.
LOUDON: Yes.
PINSKY: Myself included. We are so -- if he did nothing else -- Areva, you are smiling already, my dear.
(LAUGHING)
AREVA MARTIN, ATTORNEY AND LEGAL COMMENTATOR: I am rolling my eyes.
PINSKY: I know -- Without rolling them. But if he has done nothing else, he has gotten us all involved in this process. I have never been
interested in a primary before, let alone primary debates.
LOUDON: Yes.
PINSKY: I mean that is pretty good.
MARTIN: Yes. You got to give Trump credit for being Trump, for being this media guy, that knows how to control the media.
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Now, that is where it starts and that is where it ends. What we saw last night was Trump unable to engage in conversation on the substance of
questions that came up from the panelists. He got very quiet. He almost shrunk from the stage when they got the tough questions about foreign
policy, about immigration. He was not there.
PINSKY: Or, Andy was that a strategy? Because it seems like he got a strategy just about everything. A strategy, not to have specifics at this
stage of the game, so he cannot be attacked on specifics.
ANDY DEAN, CONNECTPAL.COM AND FORMER "APPRENTICE" CONTESTANT AND WORKED FOR DONALD TRUMP: Well, I would say, actually, the idea that he
shrunk on the stage is mathematically is untrue. If you look at the talk time during the debate, he talked the most out of any of the candidates.
So, he did not shrunk away from that. And, he gives specifics, I mean it is just people -- when he gives specifics, they say, "Oh, it is not
enough specifics." You know, the haters are always going to hate like this lady here.
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MARTIN: Well, we are not haters. We are telling the facts as they are. Yes, he had the most talk time, most of it was insulting people,
which is what he is so good at doing.
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DEAN: He answers very good.
MARTIN: He is not talking facts. He is not talking politics.
PINSKY: Lisa, I am going to back to you with winner and losers. A lot hae talked about Fiorina winning last night, really establishing
herself. I thought, if anything, the Republican Party should feel good about having such a wonderful woman representing their party, no?
LISA BLOOM, CIVIL RIGHTS LAWYER AT THE BLOOM FIRM AND LEGAL ANALYST FOR AVOO.COM: Yes. I mean I disagree with her on content, basically
everything, but she is a fantastic debater. She is very intelligent. She not only have the facts at her fingertips, but she has the emotions. She
was brave enough to talk about having a child who died from drug abuse.
She was brave enough to take on Donald Trump and I think very effectively. Donald Trump, really, I think had nothing to say when she
says what she said on that clip about his comment about her face. Although, I would like her to come out even more stronger about that.
She has a great ad that she put together about, "Look at my face." And, woman of different races and ages and saying, "Look at my face," as if
to say, "How dare you insult me for being a woman." I was like even more strength than her.
MARTIN: Lisa, I got to disagree with you very strongly --
PINSKY: Really.
MARTIN: -- about what Carly did last night.
PINSKY: What?
MARTIN: She was not accurate about almost everything she said. When she talked about that baby that was a part of the Planned Parenthood video,
when they did fact checks, that was just flat out wrong.
[21:05:05] PINSKY: Yes.
There was never any video of a baby lying there, you know struggling to live as they were talking about selling the body parts of that baby.
So, many of things that she said when they did the fact check, Lisa, she was wrong.
BLOOM: Well, I said I disagree with the content --
MARTIN: She was wrong on the contents.
LOUDON: She was not wrong about the baby.
MARTIN: I think she is going to be held --
LOUDON: No. That is absolutely true. That was a no --
MARTIN: No. There is no video.
LOUDON: Did you watch all the videos?
MARTIN: There is no video that show --
LOUDON: Did you watched the videos?
MARTIN: I have seen the video. You can watch the fact check.
LOUDON: There is many of them. Did you watch all of them?
MARTIN: There is no video that shows a baby died in the way that she described it.
LOUDON: There are videos of the whole baby fare.
MARTIN: The fact checks are clear.
LOUDON: It happens every day.
MARTIN: That is not accurate. She was wrong about that. She was wrong about that.
PINSKY: I am going to interrupt you , guys. It is not the republican debate here, just - Dondre, how about other winners ? You feel that -- I
thought Christie look pretty good. I thought Rubio did make some good points up there.
DONDRE WHITFIELD, ACTOR, SPOKESMAN FOR THE STUDENT AFRICAN-AMERICAN BRODTHERHOOD: I thought they all made some good points, but I do have to
say that the only person that I thought really felt like a president was Carly Fiorina. I mean despite the fact that through fact checks, certain
things I felt were inaccurate, she just -- she spoke with clarity. She spoke with authenticity.
And, she said something that was really interesting. She said, "Leaders unlock the potential in other people." And, based on that -- and
I thought that was a great point. Based on that, does that make Donald Trump our guy?
PINSKY: Well, you know, interestingly, because Gina and I have talked a lot about this, is what is this -- you hear me asked so many times on the
show, "What has Trump tapped into?" And, you made a point to me once, and it is very similar to when you shut the door in a therapeutic center --
LOUDON: Yes.
PINSKY: You have a history of doing therapy with people. And, you touched something real about them that they have been keeping down and what
happens.
LOUDON: Well, you just reflect what they are saying. You say, "If I am hearing you say this." And, the moment that, that person feels heard,
it is like a volcano erupted, and they start talking. And, everybody who has done therapy knows this. And, so, that is what Donald Trump has done.
He sat down in the therapy session with the American people and he became that voice. So, I think, Dr. Drew, that instead of hearing him like
they hear the normal packaged politician, I think they experienced him.
And, when someone insults him, I think they feel that insult more personally than they would if it were insulting Carly Fiorina or insulting
Jeb Bush or insulting any of the rest of them --
PINSKY: Andy, you want to say something?
DEAN: I will tell you this. When he left the debate, I walked him to his car last night. I think that we are very confused about Carly Fiorina,
because this is a woman who destroyed a public company. Hewlett Packard was down 47 percent under her tenure. She fired 30,000 people.
She took $100 million out of the company. She forced the board to buy her a gulfstream for her private jet when the predecessor used to fly
coach. She is a nightmare. She lost her senate seat to Barbara Boxer. What qualifies her to the presidency? Maybe because she can debate well.
PINSKY: Lisa, as an attorney -- who is an M.B.A. Attorney, Ivy League trained, white woman --
BLOOM: Listen, I am not a fan of anybody on that stage, OK, to be the president. I hope it is none of the above. But, you know, compare her to
say Donald Trump, who also has no political experience except giving money to everybody in every party --
PINSKY: But, he has had business in success as what Andy say.
DEAN: Right.
PINSKY: Create a job --
MARTIN: I am talking about the bankruptcy.
BLOOM: Or look at Dr. Carson, also no background at all except he is a neurosurgeon, which I do not know how that has any relevance to running
the government. Now, Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina as CEOs, it is all about growing the company.
It is all about growth for the shareholders and that is fantastic. But, what does it have to do with helping people who need jobs, who do not
have the skills and qualifications.
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PINSKY: She eliminated, Dondre, so that is the problem.
MARTIN: We got to talk about Donald Trump`s bankruptcy. So, when you talk about him being a successful businessman, Carly called him out of
that.
PINSKY: Hey! Hey, Areva, I would be careful with that because this country is practically bankrupt and he has been able to bring things out of
bankruptcy. And, people can --
DEAN: Thank you.
MARTIN: You cannot deny that, Dr. Drew, four bankruptcies for his companies. Casinos, but --
PINSKY: Next.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: The only thing I can say about Donald Trump is, the man knows how to make money, that is the truth that no
one cannot deny. He knows how to make money and maybe he can lead us in that direction.
BLOOM: But he knows how to make money for himself.
PINSKY: Again, I --
LOUDON: I think that is a great point. And, I think that you speaking for the base, honestly. Because, a lot of people in the room that
are all like, "Oh, Carly was so great." They are not probably going to vote in the GOP primary. Carly was right, identity politics does not
necessarily resonate with the base. I think you are speaking for the base.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, you are right, because I think that people are resonating with Carly because Americans are fuming a
little bit for a female president.
PINSKY: You are right.
LOUDON: Sure.
PINSKY: Are you republican?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: No. I am not republican, but my stepfather is. But, again, Donald Trump knows how to make money.
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PINSKY: All right, let me take a break. We will check out the candidates` body -- thank you. We will check out the candidates` body
language next with our human lie detector.
And, later, the biggest winner from last night might be the Twitter debate hot guy. That is him back there. We will tell you who he is after
this.
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TRUMP: This is a country where we speak English not Spanish.
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TRUMP: I want to build a wall. A wall that works.
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FIORINA: When you challenge the status quo, you make enemies. I made a few. Steve Jobs told me that when he called me, the day I was fired to
say, "Hey, I have been there, done that, twice."
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CHRISTIE: I got to tell you the truth, they could care less about your careers, they care about theirs.
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TRUMP: I am in favor of vaccines. I think you are going to see a big impact on autism.
TAPPER: Dr. Carson, you just heard his medical take.
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BEN CARSON, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He is on OK doctor.
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BUSH: You wanted casino gambling in Florida.
TRUMP: I did not.
BUSH: Yes, you did.
TRUMP: Totally false.
BUSH: You wanted it and you did not even get it.
TRUMP: I would not get it.
BUSH: And, the guy was oppose to casino gambling before, during and after --
TRUMP: I promise I would not have gotten it.
BUSH: And, that is not -- I am not going to be bought by any of this.
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TRUMP: I promise, if I wanted it, I would have got it.
BUSH: No way then.
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PINSKY: Who told the truth, who need some facts checking. Let us take a closer look at the candidates` body language. I am back with Gina,
Areva, Dondre, Lisa and Andy. And, joining us now Janine Driver, our human lie detector, author of "You Cannot Lie To Me." All right, Janine, you
spotted this from Jeb Bush. Watch everybody.
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BUSH: They served in my dad`s administration and my brother`s administration, of course that is the case; but, I am my own man. I am
going to create a strategy that is based on the simple fact that the United States needs to lead the world.
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PINSKY: Janine, what did you see there?
[21:15:00] JANINE DRIVER, CNN`S HUMAN LIE DETECTOR: I think we all see, Dr. Drew, that left shoulder goes up and uncertainty shrug right
there. He has to know this message. Now, the problem is, we do not know what -- but the bottom line is, most people will see that uncertainty and
they will think it cancels out everything else he says.
PINSKY: Keep a close eye on Donald Trump here. I am going to show you a reaction during a question about his own temperament. Take a look at
this now.
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TAPPER: Mr. Donald Trump --
TRUMP: Yes.
TAPPER: -- would be dangerous as president. He said, he would not want, quote, such a hot head with his finger on the nuclear codes." You as
well, have raised concerns about Mr. Trump`s temper temperament.
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PINSKY: I am not sure Janine, that is body language, so much as facial mugging. But, go ahead, what do you see.
(LAUGHING)
DRIVER: Listen, I have watched that clip over and over and over. It is going to make my classes in body language -- It was not -- It was not
specific emotion, other than we see disgust here. So, we have a little bit of disgust, but we do not see the seven universal emotions we all have,
happiness, sad, fear, surprise, anger, contempt, Disgust. Well, what we have here is a funny thing. This is a guy that he faces because he thinks
what he is hearing is ridiculous. It is like a kid, like if asked my son to do something, he goes, " Yes, that is not asking."
PINSKY: So, it is mugging. It is facial mugging. That is what I thought it was. Now, Carly Fiorina, you feel that her body language did
not match for some reason also. And -- well, tell me what you mean first. What do you think?
DRIVER: Well, what I am looking for, Dr. Drew, is I am looking for integrated movements. I am looking for the upper part of the body to look
like it is resonating down to the lower part of the body.
When we see that integrated movement, it indicates that someone is being authentic. They are being real in the moment. We are seeing them,
they are casual. They are not faking. We can fake body language gestures. We can fake posture, but we cannot fake these integrated movements.
And, I just was not seeing them. Look at her body, she is so stiff. This is going to hurt her like ability factor. I have had many people
writes to me, and literally say, listen Donald Trump is the "House." You know that T.V. show "House." He is that sneaky "House" guy --
PINSKY: You are talking about the drug addicted doctor, the sociopath? That who is Dr. House was. OK. He was a likable guy, though.
Yes, I get it.
DRIVER: I suppose.
PINSKY: Yes. But, Lisa, why do people feel that Carly Fiorina has to be softer. Why cannot a woman be as energetic and as militant as any male
and be respected for that seeing a human being like that --
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BLOOM: Thank you. Thank you.
PINSKY: And, they apply the B word if they have seemed a little tough, why?
BLOOM: You know, I had a debate viewing party at my house last night. We had about 30 people. And, most people said, "You know, I like her, but
why does not she smile more?" And, why do not they say that about the male candidates.
PINSKY: Yes. Exactly.
BLOOM: Strong women always get that. Why do not you be a little softer? Why do not you smile? When you or talking about Iran and Israel
and your kid dying of, you know, a drug addiction, I do not think it is not appropriate to smile.
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PINSKY: I agree with you. A comment from the audience. Yes, ma`am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Well, what I would like to say is Donald Trump does provide a solid comic relief, but in these day where
there is so much war and conflict in all these other countries, I would hate to think that that our president would go to another country and be
discussing something important and being going -- I mean is that what he is going to be doing when he is discussing foreign policy?
PINSKY: By calling him stupid.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I mean seriously?
PINSKY: Were there somebody that made you feel more comfortably yesterday? Anybody win in your mind in the debate yesterday?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: To be honest, I did not watch the debate.
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PINSKY: You did not watch. OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Because I do not believe in the republicans.
PINSKY: OK, fair enough.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I want him to make it all the way, so that we can get somebody real in there.
PINSKY: I have heard that.
DEAN: That is amazing.
PINSKY: Andy.
DEAN: She just gave her reaction to the debate and she did not even watch the debate.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I just watched on --
PINSKY: She saw it. She saw it.
DEAN: You watched eight seconds.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I just watched everything I needed to see.
DEAN: You watched 8 seconds.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes.
DEAN: Nice work.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Because I usually do not lie to watch --
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DEAN: That is OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Let me tell you something. I do not watch Donald Trump because I do not like to watch anybody say, "Send
him all back." That is racist. He wants to --
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DEAN: How do you know? -- you talked about specifically. You talked specifically about foreign policy and his reactions --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Exactly.
DEAN: And, you did not watch the debate.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: No. No. I did --
DEAN: So you lost the argument.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: OK. Let me --
DEAN: Do your home work.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Let me tell you something. I just watched his reaction. He was disrespectful to all those candidates.
DEAN: In the nine-second clip you watched? Watch the whole debate.
BLOOM: Everybody watched the show.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I do not need to watch somebody being disrespectful for an hour. I do not need to watch it. I have better
things to do with my time.
DEAN: No, you should watch the debate.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I hope Donald --
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PINSKY: OK. Hold on. Hold on. Hey, guys.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I am not a republican. I do not need to listen to anymore of his vile --
DEAN: Then do not give judgments then.
PINSKY: Do not give judgment --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I can give a judgment. This is my country too.
(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Everybody, hold it. Hold it. I love you. Well done. Well said. Yes, Dondre.
[21:20:00] WHITFIELD: Let me just pick this up, what we are getting from my sister here is --
(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: This is my country too.
WHITFIELD: Yes, ma`am. And, let me explain to the country right now what is going on. And, this is where republicans fail time and time again.
In the wake of the Black Lives Matter Movement, not one word was uttered with what is going on --
LOUDON: That was not the question.
WHITFIELD: Excuse me.
LOUDON: The question is --
WHIFIELD: OK. Hold on. Hold on. We talked about a meditative as we talked about stupid walls. We talked about Vladimir Putin. We talked
about ISIS. We talked about it all. We did not talk about the huge disconnect between African-American, particularly males in this country.
In 1979, we had African-American males that dropped out of high school, 13 percent wound up in prisons. As of 2013, 69 percent who dropped
out of high school wound up in prison.
BLOOM: Yes.
WHITFIELD: If we do not begin -- and Dr. Drew, you know this as a clinician.
PINSKY: Yes.
WHIFIELD: If you do not deal, you do not heal. So, if you do not begin to deal with what is really going on with our African-American males,
we are going to have a huge problem ahead, republicans.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: I want to let you continue. Dondre, I think your point is well taken. We could learn a moral lesson from you, man, frankly.
LOUDON: Two things. There was a black candidate on stage last night. He is doing very well in the republican polls right now.
PINSKY: But, African-American --
LOUDON: I do not feel black candidate in the other party --
PINSKY: You are right. But, I know a lot of African-Americans complain. I will not speak on your behalf --
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: What was the point that --
LOUDON: But, the min breakdown of the family is what has caused so many problems. And, I heard almost every single candidate on that stable
last night mentioned the breakdown of the family. And, that is what is caused poverty in this country in the first place.
(CROSSTALK)
WHITFIELD: Let me just --
LOUDON: And, those are available to the policy, by the way.
WHITFIELD: Hold on. Let me speak to this. I think the African- American community is a little tired of people who are not qualified to speak to that. You got to stop that.
(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Wait. No, Dondre. Dondre.
WHITFIELD: You are not qualified to speak to that.
PINSKY: Wait. Wait, Dondre. She is a therapist. She is qualified.
WHITFIELD: I get that.
PINSKY: She is qualified.
WHITFIELD: You are still not -- listen, let me tell you something.
PINSKY: We deal with this all the time. And, that is what we do --
LOUDON: And, I am qualified to talk about break down of families --
WHITFIELD: Unless you have lived. You cannot write this down on a piece of paper.
BLOOM: Can I say something.
WHITFIELD: You cannot Google this.
PINSKY: But, Dondre --
WHITFIELD: You got to live this.
LOUDON: So, you are saying, you wanted them to address it, but they are not allowed to talk about it if they are white.
WHITFIELD: No. No. No. No, that is not what I said. You got to hear me. OK. So, our exchanges and this is exactly what is going on in
our country.
PINSKY: Go ahead.
WHITFIELD: People are having these exchanges but some of the folks are not hearing u.
PINSKY: So, let us try it.
WHITFIELD: So, there is a break down in a portion of our families. But, I have heard people say, "Well, we just got to have parents that
care." Let me tell you something. Black mothers and pull them in here, care about their children.
PINSKY: Yes.
BLOOM: Yes, but they cut down --
WHITFIELD: But there is something that is happening when they go to school, that I felt a huge disconnect in school as an African-American
male. When you come into a community that you are truly not invested in.
And, you want to come in and grab a check and go home. That is a huge difference than an educator who lives in that community who educates those
children.
PINSKY: All right. Hold on. We are going to -- Gina, I am going to stop you. I got to take a break. Dondre, we are going to keep this going.
I have also got our fiends the Trump Sisters, Diamond and Silk are back. I got out panel still here with us. We are back after this.
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[21:27:26] DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Governor Bush, Mr. Trump has suggested that your views on immigration or influence
by your Mexican born wife.
BUSH: To subject my wife into the middle of ruckus political conversation was completely inappropriate. I hope you apologized for that,
Donald.
TRUMP: Well, I have to tell you, I hear phenomenal things. I hear your wife is a lovely woman.
BUSH: She is. She is fantastic.
TRUMP: I do not know her, and this --
BUSH: She is the love of my life and she is right here.
TRUMP: Good. Good.
BUSH: I would like for you to apologize to her right now.
TRUMP: No. I will not do that, because I said nothing wrong.
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PINSKY: That is Donald Trump refusing to apologize to Jeb Bush`s wife. I am back with Gina, Areva, Dondre, Lisa and joining us Alex Swoyer,
Political reporter for Breitbart News Network. Alex, welcome to the conversation and we are going to keep what Dondre tapped into before the
commercial break going. Yes, ma`am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Hello. I am talking -- it is like a reoccurring joke about like the white person with the black friend -
- with that comments, that reminds me when we were talking about Black Lives Matter, it was like, "Oh, well, we have a black candidate."
So, that makes putting black guys in jail for no reason or you know, police brutality on black people OK, because we got a black president that
is running, or we have a black person that is republican that is running, so that seems like it makes everything OK. Well, we have a black person
running, "So, you know, police brutality on us -- Oh sorry. Police brutality --
PINSKY: No. It is working.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I am sorry. Mic check. Mic check.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
PINSKY: No, but I got what you are saying.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes.
PINSKY: And, Dondre, you hear what she is saying.
WHITFIELD: Yes.
PINSKY: Which is just by putting tokens tokens in place does not change experience.
WHIFIELD: For sure. And, what it feels like to me is that because we are about to move an African-American president out of office. Now, we
actually move African-Americans along. Now, you guys have had it. We have dealt with you, that is good. Did you have fun? You are done now. That
is what it feels.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, also -- I have one more. One more. And, also, like he was saying they were not talking about, you
know, Black Lives Matter in any of their debates.
PINSKY: Right. I get it. I get it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, also --
PINSKY: No. No. No, also. No, also.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: This is a big issue. We have riots.
PINSKY: I know. I know.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We have riots after riots that happened. Why would you no talk about that? This is a big issue that is
going on in America, but we are turning our heads. Nothing is happening but there are people fighting in the streets. There is all kinds of stuff
going on, but nobody is saying in a political debate and that is wrong.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: This is a big issue.
[21:30:02] PINSKY: Well, that is what Dondre was saying.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is wrong.
PINSKY: That was Dondre was saying.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: But, you do not believe there is riot. You do not believe there is a debate between the police and
minorities particularly black minorities that are going on? Somebody needs to address the riots in everything that is going on.
WHITFIELD: We got you. No. We got you.
MARTIN: I think you made a statement Gina that Dondre and I were concerned about, and that was a statement that there was an African-
American on the stage --
PINSKY: On the panel. Yes.
MARTIN: On the panel. And, just because there is an African-American there, that does not relieve the other candidates from their responsibility
to talk about these importance issues. This is a universal issue.
LOUDON: And, I think they did. I think they did.
MARTIN: It is not a black issue. How did they do that?
LOUDON: I think because they all talked about --
MARTIN: They did not talk about the criminal justice system.
LOUDON: They talked about abortion. Most babies that are aborted are black babies.
MARTIN: But, wait a minute, Gina. We are talking about criminal justice. Gina.
LOUDON: There are all different representation --
(CROSSTALK)
PINSKY: Areva, let me stop this.
MARTIN: OK.
PINSKY: Alex was there at the debate. You were in there with Fiorina`s camp.
ALEX SWOYER, POLITICAL REPORTER FOR BREITBART NEWS NETWORK: Right.
PINSKY: Do you hear what is going on here?
SWOYER: I do.
PINSKY: Was that material something that somebody was willing to raise? Were they avoiding it? What was going on? Why did not we hear
more about say what seem to matter to the people?
SWOYER: Well, I think that the focus of yesterday`s debate was with Hugh Hewitt, who is known to be foreign policy. I am sure Black Lives
Matter will come in to the picture.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Commenting on her seat)
PINSKY: No. No. Security. Clear her seat.
WHITFIELD: Hold on. hold on.
SWOYER: And, I think it is also very important to remember that the whole Black Lives Matter movement started on --
WHITFIELD: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hey, sis, sis, sis. Hold on. Hold on.
PINSKY: Alex, go on.
SWOYER: I think that it is also important to remember that whole Black Lives Matter Movement started in Ferguson, Missouri, which now we
know was not true. There was not a --
MARTIN: That is not accurate. That is not true.
PINSKY: OK.
(CROSSTALK)
SWOYER: So, I mean I think that is something else to remember.
PINSKY: So, the bottom line is --
MARTIN: That is not accurate statement.
(CROSSTALK)
PINSKY: Listen. Hey, everybody. I am going to shut down this T.V. show and go to a test pattern, unless people behave themselves and behave
civilly.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Commenting on her seat) That is fine
PINSKY: I am not kidding. I am not kidding.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Continues to talk on her seat)
WHITFIELD: Listen. We are talking about it.
PINSKY: I am not kidding. It is a live television.
WHITFIELD: Let us not talk over.
PINSKY: It is a live television show and I will go to a test pattern if I have to. I would like to hear --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Continues to talk on her seat) You need to write about what is going on in your country because now --
PINSKY: OK. Yes, ma`am, go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Continues to talk on her seat) I do not care about the truth.
MARTIN: Take her out please.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Continues to talk on her seat)
MARTIN: She got her own topic.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Continues to talk on her seat) Since I am living the life of those people that is here.
MARTIN: You got your purse?
PINSKY: Yes, ma`am, go ahead.
MARTIN: You got your purse because you are not coming back?
(LAUGHING)
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Yes, ma`am, go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER (1): OK, now. I just want to speak to the facts that, "Yes, there are a lot of things that we use as a
cover-up to the issues that are taking place in this country. Yes, we all agree with that. But, I just want to touch on what he said about in the
education in school. How he did not have a connection --
PINSKY: What Dondre said?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): Absolutely.
PINSKY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): He did not have a connection when it came to his teachers and understanding you, is that what
it was? Because I am an educator, and I have co-workers that come from other areas like Beverly Hills or Simi Valley, or -- not even, you know,
just other areas. And, they come down to the community, the --
PINSKY: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): -- African-American community and Latino community and --
PINSKY: And, kids cannot connect to them?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): They cannot connect. They have no idea what is happening in their families. They do not know what
happened the night before, if their mom was there. She might have to work late.
PINSKY: Right.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): She may not have been able to help him with his home work.
PINSKY: Right.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): So, therefore, you cannot judge --
PINSKY: So, you are the perfect person to be talking about solutions. What are the solutions?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): Well, the solutions that I take in my classroom -- when I have children that I know that do not have
people at home to help them. I give them my extra time to help them. I stay after --
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Well, let us say it is a republican debate --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): And we need more teachings like that.
PINSKY: What should they have been talking about that would help you do your job or would help those kids? What should those debaters have been
talking about?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): Well, I have not heard anything too much about education and how we are going to build that. If
you do not build education, you do not have a future.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Alex, what is your take on all of these. Again, you were there at the debate, I am wondering why we did not hear more of this, and
would they have been open to this kind of discussion?
SWOYER: I absolutely think they would and thank you for what you do. My mom is a school teacher and staying after is so important. And, this is
what we need to have a productive conversation. We need someone like this to stand up and speak to what the children need, because that is the way to
change the future.
WHITFIELD: Absolutely.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): I do not hear anyone talking about that.
WHITFIELD: It feels like our country is -- the way they are dealing with this is we are pushing everybody down.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): Absolutely.
WHITFIELD: And, again, I talked about this as a clinician, if you do not deal with it, you are looking for a huge eruption.
PINSKY: Yes.
WHIFIELD: So, what we are doing is --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): And that is what we are doing with our kids.
WHITFIELD: We are not stressing education for jobs.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): Yes.
[21:35:00] WHITFIELD: We are stressing jails and incarceration.
BLOOM: So, there was one candidate who talked about this last night.
PINSKY: Right.
BLOOM: There was one man on that stage, who had the guts to talk about mass incarceration in America and that was Rand Paul --
PINSKY: Rand Paul.
BLOOM: And, he call for an end for the war on drugs. And, he said the war on drugs was one of the primary reasons why so many African-
Americans and Latinos are in jail today.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: (1): Right. Absolutely.
BLOOM: I have been a civil rights lawyer for 30 years. He is absolutely right about that. And, nobody else on that stage had the guts
to call that out.
AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
MARTIN: Obviously.
PINSKY: All right. We got to take a break. I do not have to go to test pattern, but I do have to go to commercial. And, later, the man who
was trending big on Twitter. We will look at that and we have many more things to talk about. Back after this.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(MUSIC PLAYING)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: And, your brother`s administration gave us Barack Obama, because it was such a disaster those last three months that Abraham Lincoln
could not have been elected.
BUSH: You know what? As it relates to my brother, there is one thing I know for sure. He kept us safe.
TRUMP: I do not know. You feel safe right now? I do not feel so safe.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: The crazy thing is if you read your history, Abraham Lincoln could barely get elected. He had real trouble both times getting elected
in reality. Back with Gina, Areva, Dondre, Lisa and Alex.
I also have, who have been standing by, two of biggest -- Trump`s biggest supporter, Diamond and Silk. I want to get their input after the
debate. Diamond, how did your man do last night?
LYNETTE "DIAMOND" HARDAWAT, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER (via skype): I think he did phenomenal.
ROCHELLE "SILK" RICHARDSON, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER (via skype): Yes.
DIAMOND: You know, he spoke well. And, he did not upstage everybody. He gave the American people a chance to see how the other politicians were
just telling us baloney. They are all talking no actions and the American people got to see that.
SILK: That is right.
DIAMOND: We do not want people just speaking great wars to us. We need you to the put some things into action, and as far as the Black Lives
Matter Movement. Can I just say this one thing about the Black Lives Matter Movement.
PINSKY: Yes, ma`am. Please.
DIAMOND: OK.
PINSKY: We got to hear about that.
DIAMOND: Here is the deal, we are all upset about the candidates not talking about the Black Lives Matter. But, we have an African-American
president that should have put things in place for African-American people.
SILK: That is right.
DIAMOND: He should have put the justices -- our people first in this country.
SILK: That is right.
DIAMOND: And that is why I am voting republican.
SILK: Yes.
DIAMOND: I will never vote democrat again because of that.
PINSKY: OK. Hold on. Dondre, I want to give you a chance --
WHITFIELD: Please.
PINSKY: Because, you been feeling passionately about this issue.
WHITFIELD: Please.
PINSKY: So, please go ahead.
WHITFIELD: You know, with regard to -- I feel your passion. I feel your frustration. I just finished saying to Gina over the break. When you
experienced a person, who is angry, you are not experiencing a person, who has gone through profound hurts.
PINSKY: Yes.
WHITFIELD: And, these two sisters have gone through profound hurts. They feel betrayed by an otherwise African-American president that did not
address their issues.
PINSKY: OK.
WHITFIELD: But, they do not understand is that
DIAMOND: Well --
WHITFIELD: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Which you do not understand --
DIAMOND: The Democratic Party --
WHITFIELD: Hold on. Hey, Trumpets -- Trumpets, I need you to relax.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING AND APPLAUDING)
Relax, relax. What you need to understand is that he could not -- there are certain things that a president just cannot do on his own. You
know, the president has to go through proper channels. You all think that Trump is going to run this country like he ran "Celebrity Apprentice." He
cannot.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Diamond -- real quick and then I got to go back to my audience. But, go ahead, Diamond.
DIAMOND: Listen, I am not expecting for the first African-American to be God, but if you are an African-American, please look out for African-
American people.
WHITFIELD: That is right.
DIAMOND: That is all I have to say.
WHITFIELD: I think he has.
MARTIN: And, he has done that.
LOUDON: Are we more --
WHITFIELD: He has done that.
MARTIN: He has done that.
PINSKY: Hang on. One at a time. One at a time.
LOUDON: Are we more united or more divided after his presidency.
PINSKY: One at a time. Let me --
DIAMOND: People are unemployed.
PINSKY: OK.
WHITFIELD: That does not mean that he has not addressed specific issues related as it pertains to the African-American community.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: But, what I am hearing like you said, we are trying to hear what is really being said --
WHIFIELD: You guys --
PINSKY: Hang on, Dondre. What I am hearing is not just her but I am also hearing that -- was it during Clinton`s campaign, "It is the economy,
stupid." Many people want to really refocus on jobs, and growth, and economy. I am hearing that, right. Areva --
MARTIN: Can I give a little civics lesson, Dr. Drew. The president is the executive branch of the government. There is something called the
congress and the senate. They are run by republicans. They block everything the president tries to do.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: You got to understand the system of government. You cannot blame Obama for everything that is wrong in this country. You think one
candidate, Donald Trump is going to make this world better by waiving a magic wand.
(CROSSTALK)
PINSKY: I am going to go to the audience. Audience, please. Yes, ma`am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Well -- I am not sure you hear me. Basically, I am a doing a documentary on this very topic of education
and the achievement gap, specifically as it exist between African-American students and the rest of the students. OK?
PINSKY: What are you finding? What are you finding?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Well, most of African students - - African-American students actually perform lesser than non-English speaking students.
PINSKY: Why?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Which is the big question, right? Now, there used to be money that went to on a national level in the
education system that would basically try to --
PINSKY: Does that work? That the money -- throwing money at it. Just throwing at it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: -- what I am saying is that it was cancelled. They used to actually support that.
PINSKY: Did it work?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Some systems worked. Some did not. My documentary happens to be in a private organization, which I do
actually support us helping ourselves as well. This is a group that works in education -- the public education system has had amazing success.
PINSKY: Within the education system, the groups that had great success academically, what is different about them? Why do not we just
look at what they are doing and reproduce that?
[21:45:00] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: No. Because the program they are putting in place -- the devils deep into healing and all
these issues that you are talking about; social injustices, all these things they happened within the African-American community.
PINSKY: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, these urban centers, they are suffering so much because of this huge gap that keep gap that keeps
growing economically.
PINSKY: Economic, yes. Alex, let me ask this. With all this Obama bashing that is going on that I hard last night at the debates, are the
republicans incurring a liability by doing that, too much?
SWOYER: No. I actually do not think so. I think that each party should go after the other rather than, again, each other, right?
PINSKY: Why will not they go after the candidates? Why will not they go after the candidates and why will not after the sitting president who is
very popular? They are not going to be inclusive in there with their party.
SWOYER: Well, I think that the two guests that you just had on made a good point. I also would like to point out. You know, we have Bernie
Sanders, who is running from Black Lives Matter. We also had -- we saw --
MARTIN: What do you mean he is running from them?
SWOYER: He has absolutely been very combative with them.
BLOOM: No. It is not true.
WHITFIELD: No. No. That is not true.
MARTIN: You are making a lot of false statements. That is not accurate.
SWOYER: I know he is.
MARTIN: Tell them to speak --
SWOYER: You have eyes. I saw that --
MARTIN: I have eyes --
WHITFIELD: You have ears too.
MARTIN: And I have ears and I have a brain.
SWOYER: I saw that --
MARTIN: So, let us clear about that. You allowed them to speak --
SWOYER: Would you let me speak, please. You are interrupting me.
MARTIN: You allowed them to speak --
PINSKY: Go ahead. Alex, finish. Alex, first. Please.
SWOYER: I believe that it has been seen multiple times when Black Lives Matter has tried to take to over the stage. And, there has been
security that actually taken Bernie Sanders away. Dr. Ben Carson, has invited them to meet with them. He said he is willing to sit down.
PINSKY: OK. Stop. Stop. Areva. Areva, go ahead.
SWOYER: So, I think that is important to know this.
MARTIN: I am not even sure what your point is. I cannot even follow it. But, the point is --
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
SWOYER: My point is Black Lives Matter --
(CROSSTALK)
PINSKY: Hold it. Hold it.
MARTIN: Now, you asked me to let you finish --
PINSKY: Go ahead. Areva, go ahead.
MARTIN: Now, allow me too, please.
PINSKY: Areva, please, go ahead.
MARTIN: The point is Black Lives Matter have disrupted the way this country think about policing. And, all we are saying is that it is an
important topic. You cannot spend a year talking about African-Americans being shot by the police.
The need for transparency and community policing and constitutional policing and have a debate with the 11 candidates and that topic not even
come up. Not one time. All we are saying is that make the issue a constitutional policing and issue for all of the candidates. Not just --
PINSKY: Fair enough. We got to stop here. We got to stop. We got to go to break. Be right back. We got more after this.
(MUSIC PLAYING)
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
[21:47:33] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[21:51:41] BUSH: So, 40 years ago, I smoked marijuana and I admit it. I am sure that other people might have done it. May not want to say
it in front of 25 million people. My mom is not happy that I just did.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PAUL: In Florida, Governor Bush campaigned against medical marijuana. That means that a small child like Morgan Hintz that has 500 seizures a day
is failing on nontraditional medications is not allowed to use cannabis oil. And, then if they attempt to do that in Florida, they will take the
child away. They will put the parents in jail.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: We get to an hour in just this topic alone. Let me just say that the idea of a good drug and a bad drug is flawed. It is not like
alcohol is a good drug. That is bizarre. Jeb Bush admitted his smoking weed in high school. After the debate, he sent out a tweet that said,
"Sorry mom."
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
Back with Gina, Areva, Dondre, Lisa, Alex. I guess I should apologize to my mom too. Sorry mom.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
But, Alex, you want to finish your comment there. Go ahead.
SWOYER: Well, I was just going to say, I think that what Black Lives Matters is the message is important. I think that there has been times
that they have come across combative, like we have seen protests that were chanting violence against police.
We also saw them take over Bernie Sanders when he was trying to speak. I think that if they did it in their tone -- remember how Jeb Bush and
Donald Trump are going back and forth about tone, I think if their tone was different, it would definitely resonate.
PINSKY: OK.
MARTIN: You know --
PINSKY: Areva, for a second.
MARTIN: I just want to say quickly. It is not for you or me or anyone to define how people should protest. Protest is a part of our
country. It is the part of the national debate. People are allowed to protest in whichever way they choose.
SWOYER: But, you cannot advocate violence. That is against the law.
WHITFIELD: We are not.
MARTIN: We are not talking about violence. We are talking about protests.
PINSKY: Hang on. Hang on.
MARTIN: And, you are trying to define how the people should protest.
BLOOM: I have actually attended and spoken at numerous Black Lives Matter protests because I am civil rights lawyer. I have never seen a call
for violence, then maybe one here or there. We all decry that. That is wrong.
PINSKY: OK. OK.
BLOOM: But the central message is --
PINSKY: We all agree on that. We all agree on that.
MARTIN: Of course.
BLOOM: What people do not realize is that a thousand people a year in this country die from police, disproportionately unarmed African-American.
And to ignored that at a debate in presidency is shameful.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
WHITFIELD: Shameful.
PINSKY: Guys, I am tired.
WHITFIELD: I am like Jeb Bush right now, I am Ever Ready. Let us get it.
(LAUGHING)
MARTIN: I am tired.
PINSKY: Hang on. Gina want to say something. Go ahead.
LOUDON: Well, I just think that you look at the policies of the administration over the last eight years and no matter what your identity
politics is, are we more united or divided? That is my first question.
And, do you think that people rise up when they are united or divided? So, are we looking for a president who will speak about identity politics
about win and about whatever? Or are we looking for a president, who is going to find a way to unite us because this president clearly has not?
SWOYER: Amen. Amen.
MARTIN: And, you suggests that Trump is going to unite us, when he talks about Latinos, African-Americans --
WHITFIELD: Wow!
LOUDON: But, Trump is pulling the highest Latinos, with blacks and with women.
PINSKY: I can see -- I know what has to happen here. I have to take a break, there is no way I am going to slow these guys down. They will
keep the debate going after this. I will be back after this.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(MUSIC PLAYING)
[21:55:05] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: All right. We are going to lighten this up a little bit. And, we are going to keep this conversation going on this until we find a
common ground. I can see what is coming as the presidential campaign moves along.
It is going to be interesting. Now, my produce has been coming up with secret service names just like they have asked the candidates on the
podium there. My producer changed my name like Gray Goose, Silver Fox, Dr. Strange Love. Do you guys have any secret service names for me?
MARTIN: Mine for you is Tiger. Do you know who Tiger is? It is a rapper out of Wisconsin. He is very flamboyant. I think of you as a very
conservative doctor. So, no one would know.
PINSKY: I adopt that one. Thank you.
BLOOM: Dr. Strange love.
PINSKY: All right. Dr. Strange Love. Five seconds, go ahead.
WHITFIELD: Smiling Assassin.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: What is wrong with you, Dondre.
WHITFIELD: You penetrated.
[22:00:00] PINSKY: I am out. See you next time.
(LAUGHING)
. (AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
(MUSIC PLAYING)
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