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Donald Trump Speaks Out Against the Media; A Tasteless Twitter Post Make George Zimmerman A Trending Topic; The President Poking Fun At Donald Trump At The White House Correspondents Dinner; Another Brawl Caught On Tape On Walmart; 11 Sets Of Twins In One Incoming Kindergarten Class. Aired 9-10p ET
Aired September 28, 2015 - 21:00 ET
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[21:00:14] DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST: Tonight, Donald Trump speaks out about why he hates the media. And, his plan to round up illegal immigrants
in a very nice way. Plus, George Zimmerman re-tweets a picture of Trayvon Martin`s dead body. One of his defenders is here.
It all starts right now at the top the feed. Donald Trump is forced to answer tough questions about hot-button issues. He lashes out at the media
while on "60 Minutes." Have a look at this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We are going to build a wall and we are going to create a border. It is going to be a great wall, and it is
not going to be very expensive. It will be a real wall. It will be a wall that works. It will actually be a wall that will look good -- believe it
or not, because what they have now is a joke.
SCOTT PELLEY, CBS HOSTOF "60 MINUTES" PROGRAM: You are rounding them all up?
TRUMP: We are rounding them up in a very humane way and a very nice way, and they are going to be happy because they want to be legalized. Russia
wants to get rid of ISIS. We want to get rid of ISIS. Maybe let Russia do it, let them get rid of ISIS. What the hell do we care. ObamaCare is
going to be repealed and replaced.
PELLEY: Why so thin-skinned?
TRUMP: I do not like lies. Some of the media is among the worst people I have ever met. And, I mean a pretty good percentage is really a terrible
group of people. They write lies. They write false stories.
PELLEY: You love hearing about yourself.
TRUMP: I do. Look, I am on a lot of covers. I think maybe more than almost any supermodel. I think more than any supermodel, but in a way that
is a sign of respect.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: Joining me Sam Schacher, "Pop Trigger" on Hulu.com. Vanessa Barnett, hiphollywood.com. Michael Catherwood, my "Love Line" and KABC
radio co-host at 790 A.M. on Monday through Friday, noon to 3:00; Areva Martin, Attorney and Legal Consultant; Amarosa, former contestant on
Trump`s "The Apprentice."
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
Vanessa, he has been criticized for not giving up specifics on policy. Now, he has rolled out a tax policy. Happy now?
VANESSA BARNETT, HIPHOLLYWOOD.COM: I am not going to say, I am happy. Because some of it was just kind of out there, but I was surprised. I was
surprised that he had some specific answers, because I have been one of the many people saying, "Give me something." I do not want to hate you for no
reason. I do not hate you, but I need more from you. And, he actually tried to give me something.
PINSKY: Omarosa?
AMAROSA MANIGAULT, FORMER CONTESTANT ON TRUMP`S "THE APPRENTICE": I have to say, I want an apology from Sam and Areva right now, today. They
declared that Donald Trump was politically over. His career in politics was done. I believe that was about a month and a half ago. Areva, do you
want to apologize to me right now on live T.V.?
AREVA MARTIN, ATTORNEY AND LEGAL CONSULTANT: Do you me first, Sam to tackle her or do you want to tackle her?
MANIGAULT: Sam --
SAM SCHACHER, "POP TRIGGER" ON HULU.COM: -- Girl, just tap me in.
MANIGAULT: It was not about the summer. He is still on top. People want Trump. And, they want America to be great again.
MARTIN: Facts, Omarosa. Facts.
MANIGAULT: Apologize.
MARTIN: Deal with the facts.
MANIGAULT: Areva, apologize.
MARTIN: We never said what you just stated.
MICHAEL CATHERWOOD, "LOVE LINE" AND KABC RADIO CO-HOST AT 790 A.M: Yes.
MARTIN: You always said is that Trump is the --
MANIGAULT: He was going to be a flash in the pan.
MARTIN: What we said is that he is divisive. That language, I want to gather them all --
MANIGAULT: And, he is still on top.
MANIGAULT: He did not sound like he was talking about cattle to anyone.
BARNETT: Yes. I am going to round them up.
MARTIN: He did not sound like he was talking about --
BARNETT: Let us round them all on top.
SCHACHER: OK --
MARTIN: He did not sound like he was talking people in a humane way that you want your president to talk.
MANIGAULT: It does not sound like you are giving an apology.
SCHACHER: It is hard to give you an apology when you put words into our mouth, Omarosa.
MANIGAULT: Sam --
SCHACHER: None of us ever said that he was a flash in the pan. We have always said that he is media savvy.
BARNETT: Yes.
SCHACHER: We have always been very intrigued why he was at the top of the polls. We have said that he is divisive and that is something we want in
our future world leader, hopefully not.
MANIGAULT: You also said he was not going to last very long, Sam. I believe you said that specifically. Apologize.
PINSKY: There is --
MARTIN: That is not what Sam said.
BARNETT: I think it is too early to tell. I do not think this is very early --
PINSKY: It is early in the game. It is three --
BARNETT: I mean very long time.
PINSKY: We got two innings into a nine in a game.
MANIGAULT: And, he is still on top.
PINSKY: But, there is a lot of mud being slung throughout the GOP. He spoke to Erin Burnett, Trump did -- just now. She asked him about some of
the name-calling, take a look at this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST OF "OUTFRONT" PROGRAM: So, when people say the temperament question -- before we go, people say the temperament question.
They say, "Look, this is a guy, who call someone a loser." He will say something and -- they say that, that is childish.
TRUMP: But, this is a campaign.
BURNETT: But, they say that, that is childish. They will say that is not the temperament of a president.
TRUMP: Probably, it is a little childish. But, you know what? This is a campaign. And, usually -- and, I think you know this better than anybody,
I am responding to them. I am a counter puncher. I think at every single instance, I have hit.
For instance, Walker was very nice to me. All of a sudden, he hit me and I hit him back. All of these guys. Rubio was very nice to me, I could not
have been nicer. All of a sudden a week ago, he started hitting me --
BURNETT: So, you are saying, you are not going to talk about Vladimir Putin --
TRUMP: No.
BURNETT: -- calling him a loser or something like that as a president?
TRUMP: I actually say the opposite.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: Is he saying that it is just because it is a campaign he is talking like this and he would not do so as a statesman?
CATHERWOOD: It sounds like it. I sounds like, you know -- and he went on in that interview to say that some of his rhetoric up to this point is in
fact childish. He used that word himself. I think that it speaks volumes to the fact that he is at least cognizant of him being, you know --
speaking in a way that is unorthodox for a politician.
PINSKY: I would love to hear from our audience both on what drives them crazy about Mr. Trump and also why they support him. So, go ahead, where
are you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It does not matter if it is a campaign or not, you are supposed to be an adult.
[21:05:02] SCHACHER: Yes.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Acting like a child does not make you qualified.
PINSKY: She mentioned childish in her interview, does she not? But, listen, I am always trying to figure out, you know, why we respond to them
and who these people really are. Some very interesting pieces of Donald Trump`s history.
People seem to forget, he had a brother that was a severe alcoholic died of his addiction at a young age and affected Mr. Trump very profoundly. And,
I would argue that has had a lot to do with who he is. He opened up about this brother, who passed away at a very early age. It really must have
been traumatic, take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PELLEY: What personal hardship has defined your character?
TRUMP: Well, I think I have had some, but I had a brother who was a fantastic guy, Fred. And, he was a young man and he passed away at a
fairly young age. And, he was an alcoholic. He would tell me constantly, do not drink. And, I have never had a drink.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: Of course, that is "60 minutes," but Sam, you want to react.
SCHACHER: I like when he is personal. I like when he is vulnerable. I wish we would see more of that. I think if he is relatable and galvanizes
people, he would get a lot more people behind him, even more so than where he is today.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
MANIGAULT: Omarosa, send that message to him. Yes, ma`am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I think Trump is the best thing that could happen to this country. I think the presidency --
PINSKY: Why?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: -- should become a reality show. Bring the cameras everywhere. Getting people involved. Let us vote like
"America`s Got Talent" and at the end, he could say "You are fired," after we put people up for elimination. That is how you get people involved.
CATHERWOOD: Whoa!
PINSKY: OK. Wait a minute. OK. Stay right there. Do not move.
SCHACHER: Sounds like the Rome Coliseum, no thank you.
PINSKY: No. But, hold on. So, there is -- we are all laughing, but there is something that is real about what she is saying, right? Is this the way
modern politics is going? Is this how statesmanship will be done in the future?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I think that is how it should be done. Let us vote like "America`s Got Talent" or "American Idol," and put
people up for elimination.
PINSKY: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Let us be involved in what is going on.
CATHERWOOD: Wait. So, what you are saying is that --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: That is how we should do from now on.
CATHERWOOD: What you are saying is that -- we can already vote, but we should make it, so that we can vote from our home.
(LAUGHING)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Right.
CATHERWOOD: Because going to a booth is far too much of a commitment.
PINSKY: No. No --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: But that was your idea, unless you have an account in Twitter --
PINSKY: No. What I heard they say is that any of the text, hash tag, whatever. Areva, help me.
MARTIN: You know, I think, unfortunately, the comment from the audience is why so many people like Sam and I are concerned about Donald Trump.
Because he has trivialized the United States presidency. He is made it into a joke.
(AUDIENCE APPAUDING)
We are talking about serious issues of housing, of health care, of criminal justice. These are very serious issues that impact people`s lives. And,
no, we should not be voting like "American Idol." We should not be voting like "America`s Got Talent." These are serious issues.
MANIGAULT: Areva.
MARTIN: People are starving. People are hurting. So, we need to take the presidential election very seriously.
MANIGAULT: We lived through eight years of George W. Bush.
MARTIN: And, we need a candidate that is going to take the election very seriously. Does everyone agree? There are serious issues here.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Vanessa, you are smiling. You are just enjoying the show.
SCHACHER: I like it.
BARNETT: A little bit. A little bit.
MANIGAULT: First, George W. Bush did not even know basic geography. Are we being serious?
(CROSSTALK)
CATHERWOOD: But, the difference -- the difference is --
PINSKY: Hang on. One at a time.
MARTIN: Eight years of W and you are saying thatDonald Trump is not serious? Areva, get out of here.
(CROSSTALK)
CATHERWOOD: There is plenty to poke fun at --
MANIGAULT: He is a successful billionaire. He has built an empire --
CATHERWOOD: There is plenty to poke fun at when it came to George W. Bush`s presidency.
MANIGAULT: Can we acknowledge that at least.
PINSKY: One at a time.
CATHERWOOD: But throughout his presidency, I do not think he ever purposely did any of this to rise and to pander to what could be looked at
as scapegoats. His linguistic miscues were phenomenal.
(LAUGHING)
His misstatements of fact were plentiful, but I do think that at every moment, George W. Bush was taking the job seriously. I do think that Mr.
Trump has very shrewdly analyzed how he can cater to certain segments of this country that are fed up in a way that it does not matter if he says
things that are inflammatory, practically dangerous.
PINSKY: He is campaigning.
CATHERWOOD: It is all that matters to him is that he is getting the attention.
MANIGAULT: Same people.
PINSKY: Yes, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. My thing is I have been sitting here and listening to the arguments. And, it pretty much seems like we are
arguing over somebody who cares about humans and somebody who does not. Now, as a president I feel like I want somebody, who I feel like I can see
myself in just like why I feel Obama was president. So, as Donald Trump, I do not know him as personally, but what does make me lean toward the
president is someone I see humility in.
SCHACHER: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Now, you do not want to conquer the world as a person, who is going to go out and feel like everyone is
defeated. Because, even when you defeat people, you still want them to learn a lesson.
PINSKY: So, who are you --
MANIGAULT: Yes, who is he supporting?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I am supporting the best candidate possible.
PINSKY: Is this Trump somebody you are intrigued by?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, Trump is somebody I am intrigued by, but he does not earn my vote.
PINSKY: I see.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Because of his strategic tactics.
PINSKY: So, what if we have some of his policies ending up things that you think could protect you and your family, then he would have it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, of course.
PINSKY: OK. Yes, as a personality you are worried now?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, well --
PINSKY: Got it.
CATHERWOOD: A lot of times, though, the best human does not always make the best president.
PINSKY: That is for sure.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes.
PINSKY: All right, we are going to keep this going. Thank you, sir.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
[21:10:00] Later on, George Zimmerman is big trouble again. This time for re-tweeting a photo of Trayvon Martin`s dead body. We have a supporter of
Zimmerman in here. We are back after this.
(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
(MUSIC PLAYING)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
PRES. BARACK OBAMA, CURRENT U.S. PRESIDENT: No one is happier. No one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the Donald. And,
that is because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter. Like, did we fake the moon landing?
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
What really happened in Roswell? And, where are Biggie and Tupac? Say what you will about Mr. Trump. He certainly would bring some change to the
White House.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[21:15:01] PINSKY: The president poking fun at Donald Trump at the White House Correspondents dinner way back in 2011. Back with Sam, Vanessa,
Mike, Areva, and Omarosa. Marco Rubio went after Trump in an NPR interview over the weekend. We are going to listen to that right now.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)
MARCO RUBIO, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am not interested in the back and forth, to be a member or part of a freak show. I would just say this:
He is a very sensitive person. He does not like to be criticized. He respond to criticism very poorly.
He had a speech in South Carolina to an empty crowd. He got booed on Friday at the Value Voters Summit. His poll numbers have taken a beating,
and he was embarrassed on national television in a debate by Carly Fiorina, and others.
(END AUDIO CLIP)
PINSKY: Omarosa, I am imagining --
(LAUGHING)
MANIGAULT: And the others? Was he a part of the others?
PINSKY: Stand by. But, he is sensitive, yes? He is sensitive --
MANIGAULT: He is not sensitive --
PINSKY: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You cannot deny it --
MANIGAULT: No, he is not, Dr. Drew.
PINSKY: He counter punches viciously when he has been crossed.
MANIGAULT: He does. Absolutely.
PINSKY: It is got to be dicier territory now. It is getting very, you know, a lot of back and forth, a lot of mudslinging. Is he troubled by
that or is he getting deeper into the fight? Is he activated by it?
MANIGAULT: Donald Trump was built for this. He is ready to go full length of this campaign, and he is not sensitive. People are perpetuating that to
show that he does not have this temperament, but the man has tough skin.
He has been in New York. He has been successful. He is a successful billionaire, who does not care what other people think. But, if you come
at him, he is going to return fire. If you cannot take the heat, get out of the kitchen and that is what I would say to Rubio.
PINSKY: And, Mike, back to that issue of him rounding up the immigrants --
CATHERWOOD: Yes.
PINSKY: -- undocumented immigrants, in a very nice way.
CATHERWOOD: Yes.
PINSKY: In a very nice way. I mean it sounds like --
(LAUGHING)
BARNETT: Round them up!
PINSKY: -- like the SS, you know, walking through towns.
CATHERWOOD: They were saying it sounds like cattle. That is the first thing I thought of.
BARNETT: Yes, absolutely.
CATHERWOOD: I said, "Where is Heinrich Himmler when you need him?" You know.
PINSKY: Yes.
MANIGAULT: Illegal. Illegal.
CATHERWOOD: That is --
PINSKY: I mean it is the same, but it seems a little --
CATHERWOOD: It totally does. And, listen, here is the thing is that he was addressing a very important problem in the United States, one that I
think a lot of people on both sides of the political scale would like to see him address. It is the way he words things.
Even when he gives compliments, it sounds gross. Do not you remember the other day he is like, "I love the Muslims. I love the beautiful people."
You are like, "Well, that does not sound good. It does not even sound nice." To say you love someone is the nicest thing you can possibly say.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: To our audience. Yes, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Donald Trump is making an inadvertent mockery of American politics to the point that when Kanye West announced
that he was going to run, people did not know whether to take him serious not.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING AND APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: But, Sam, he may be but he may not be. I mean, if you really look at through history, it is so easy to look back at history and think that
things were old fashioned. Everything is old fashioned to us, but there are people, if you were in that time looking forward, who did things that
looked like they were making a mockery -- Andrew Jackson keeps coming to mind for me. He is somebody -- Even Teddy Roosevelt did things that he did
--
CATHERWOOD: Sure.
SCHACHER: OK, but --
PINSKY: He did that no one had ever done. He encouraged newspapermen into his office. That was scandalous. That was crazy.
(CROSSTALK)
SCHACHER: I think he definitely changed his gamed.
PINSKY: And, people thought he was making a mockery of the office by bringing journalists into the office. The question is, is this a more
modern politics or is it a mockery?
SCHACHER: Listen. I hope it is not more modern politics because I actually like Donald Trump`s tax plan. I like Donald Trump`s Universal
Health Care ideas. However --
PINSKY: Wait a minute, Sam --
SCHACHER: It is his --
PINSKY: You also like Bernie Sanders --
SCHACHER: I love Bernie Sanders. And, he has very similar --
PINSKY: He got tax break like what Bernie Sanders wants to do.
SCHACHER: It is actually very similar. But, my point is --
PINSKY: What?
SCHACHER: But, my point, Dr. Drew, is that it is Donald Trump`s delivery, number one.
PINSKY: Yes.
SCHACHER: Number two, he is making a lot of promises. Huge, lofty promises that he cannot keep.
MANIGAULT: Well, that is politics.
SCHACHER: He forgets he is not the end all, be all decision maker. There is congress. There is the Supreme Court. So, he is just hoping that he
can say whatever that the people want to hear, so he can get their vote.
PINSKY: Maybe.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
BARNETT: You can be progressive.
MANIGAULT: No.
BARNETT: You can be progressive without being borderline offensive and a borderline racist.
MANIGAULT: Sam, Vanessa.
BARNETT: He can be progressive. I believe Obama is very progressive.
PINSKY: Yes.
BARNETT: We can never see the lies of him, but he is not going around insulting people and being offensive.
PINSKY: No.
MANIGAULT: When it comes to political correctness, ladies get over it. He is not going to be politically correct.
BARNETT: I do not need him to be politically correct.
(CROSSTALK)
MANIGAULT: Right --
BARNETT: -- But you do not want someone at office who was saying, "I like the Muslims."
MANIGAULT: You cannot see him very nice. He is going to get rid of the illegal immigrants --
(CROSSTALK)
PINSKY: One at a time
BARNETT: You do not want someone in our office, whose organization had been sued for racial bias, like that is not the person I want in office,
someone who did not even written - to a black person. I cannot put my vote down for him.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUIND)
PINSKY: Let me hear from the audience. Yes, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. You have to remember, Donald Trump is not a politician.
MANIGAULT Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, first of all --
PINSKY: Is that a compliment or a liability?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is a compliment.
MANIGAULT: It is a compliment.
PINSKY: It is a compliment.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is not a liability. I think --
PINSKY: Is not it interesting that almost everything we bring up about him, we go, "Is that a good thing or a bad thing?"
SCHACHER: Yes.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: It is very difficult. Very interesting.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We have had almost 300 years of history of different presidents. Our world is changing. People are speaking out
for one of the first times in the past ten years.
CATHERWOOD: Yes. Yes. Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: That people want something different. They do not want the same rhetoric, same puppets in D.C.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
BARNETT: But, we have seen that with the Pope.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Nothing gets done.
BARNETT: We have seen that with the Pope. He is something different.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes.
BARNETT: He is something fresh.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Right.
BARNETT: And, people are on board. They love him. And, they love how progressive he is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: They want it.
PINSKY: They are hungry for it.
[21:20:00] BARNETT: There is a problem when Donald Trump cannot be progressive without being offensive.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
CATEHRWOOD: I do not know if that matters to me anymore.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: We need somebody like maybe an Oprah Winfrey as a Vice President to offset him, maybe, to get him some leverage.
(LAUGHING)
CATHERWOOD: Dr. Drew --
PINSKY: Give him some ideas.
CATHERWOOD: We constantly go, "Is this is a good thing or a bad thing?" And, it does not matter anymore, in politics or in entertainment. You
know, Donald Trump did the --
PINSKY: Wait. Wait. Unpack what you mean by that. You are saying, as long as you get attention --
CATHERWOOD: As long as I get attention, it does not really matter about the content. He did the other day -- he did the #AskTrump, right?
SCHACHER: And, it back fired.
CATHERWOOD: And, it totally back fired. It was a disaster for him. But, in 15 seconds, he became the overwhelming top trending thing on Twitter.
MANIGAULT: Brilliant.
CATHERWOOD: I mean in 15 seconds --
MANIGAULT: Brilliant.
CATHERWOOD: -- Hillary Clinton could not put up a beaver shot and do that. Donald Trump -- I am serious. No one can come close to that.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING AND APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Mike, the executive producer is going to have you pulled off with a cane.
(LAUGHING)
MANIGAULT: Mike!
CATHERWOOD: They are beautiful animals.
MANIGAULT: Mike!
CATHERWOOD: They are nice beavers.
PINSKY: Hey, everybody -- Everybody, I want to hear -- I want to hear from my audience. Yes, ma`am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I just want to say, Omarosa, of course you support Trump.
MANIGAULT: Yes, of course.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Because he created all of these.
MANIGAULT: All of these --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He created you.
MANIGAULT: No. God created me.
(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He made you the media personality --
MANIGAULT: God created me. Do not get it twisted. God created me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, for him to say that he hates journalists? They made him too.
SCHACHER: Wow.
PINSKY: But -- But, listen --
MANIGAULT: For now, I want to know who made the blond wig that she has.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING AND APPLAUDING)
(CROSSTALK)
PINSKY: Oh come on, Omarosa.
SCHACHER: It is not fair.
MANIGAULT: Come on.
SCHACHER: You insulted her.
MANIGAULT: It is all fun.
SCHACHER: She did not physically insult you.
MANIGAULT: It is all fun.
SCHACHER: It is not all fun. I do not like that.
PINSKY: Hang on.
BARNETT: Low blow.
SCHACHER: Low blow. Just like Donald Trump, low blow.
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: It is not a wig.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: But there are a lot of people -- what is the matter, Mike?
MANIGAULT: Do not be sensitive.
CATHERWOOD: Huh?
PINSKY: Are you all right?
CATHERWOOD: This is awesome.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: There are a lot of --
SCHACHER: Are you drinking that tea? Are you drinking that tea?
PINSKY: There are a lot of people that are not particularly happy with journalists. Not just journalists. I think what Trump was aiming at and
tilting towards is how journalism is done today, where somebody can tweet something, and then a blogger picks it up, and then it becomes fact --
CATHERWOOD: Well, yes --
PINSKY: And, the journalists report it. That is crazy.
(CORSSTALK)
CATHERWOOD: And, the lines are pretty --
BARNETT: That is not journalism. That not a journalist.
PINSKY: But, that is how it is done today.
BARNETT: But, we are just throwing that word around like it does not mean anything. To me journalism is when you go and you do your research and you
do your facts. So, do not compare bloggers to journalists, because it is totally different.
PINSKY: I am with you on that.
BARNETT: Each one has his own place.
CATHERWOOD: I would love to be able to delineate between the "New York Times" and Radar.Com, but unfortunately the line between professional
journalism and tabloid has been utterly blurred, to the point there is no recognition.
PINSKY: And, to that, I think he is -- I would love -- we got to do a segment on that, because I think that is what he is tilting --
BARNETT: But, he has used it to his advantage.
PINSKY: Yes, he is. No doubt about it. Let us leave it. George Zimmerman. That is what we are going to pick up next. Back in the news
tonight because he re-tweeted a picture -- I am going to choke on this. He re-tweeted a picture of trayvon martin is dead body. We have a surprising
defender here to talk about this and more after this.
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[21:23:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[21:26:46] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: A tasteless Twitter post make George Zimmerman a trending topic. A fan sent him a photo of Trayvon
Martin`s dead body with the caption "Z-man is a one-man army." Zimmerman re-tweeted that image to his 12,000 followers. Twitter removed the post,
but Zimmerman`s account remains active.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SCHACHER: That is his profile picture.
PINSKY: Wow! -- Yes, it is unbelievable. The Twitter mob has a new target. How can we not be outraged by this? George Zimmerman -- of
course, I am back with Sam, Vanessa, Mike, Areva. Mike, this guy is coming into focus now, is not he?
CATHERWOODL: Yes.
PINSKY: We argued back and forth, "Is this guy good? Was he good? Is he bad? Is he just the wrong guy in the wrong place? Now, look what we got.
Was that his confederate flag?
SCHACHER: Yes. That is his avvie.
PINSKY: Yes.
SCHACHER: That is his Twitter avvie. For everybody who is going to his Twitter and you will see so many tweets that demonstrate his character.
PINSKY: So, here we go.
CATHERWOOD: Of course, you know, in the overall -- in the end of all these activities, of course the murder of Trayvon Martin is, you know, the worst
thing possible. But, somehow, morally, I see re-tweeting a picture of his dead body as actually being ethically worse, like it is so unbelievably
gross.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
I cannot -- All these stories we always get up here -- we always talk about -- I mean you have to really analyze that from a -- take a step back and
think about that, that if someone is a supposed fan of yours because you are George Zimmerman, whatever that means, and you get this picture, for
you not to immediately block that person. Even from a PR standpoint, just how divorced from human feelings is this man to then re-tweet that?
SCHACHER: Right.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: And, Areva, he has had multiple issues now, domestic violence, possessing firearms, fighting with the cops. He paints pictures of the
confederate flag, sold them for $100,000.
SCHACHER: God. Yes.
PINSKY: It seems to be insolent. What you said, his latest picture was himself sitting on the beach? Was that you told me this?
CATHERWOOD: No. No.
SCHACHER: Yes, working on his tan. I saw that one.
PINSKY: Yes, Areva.
MARTIN: Yes, working on his tan. I think, unfortunately, Mike, what we are seeing in George Zimmerman is what we have always seen in George
Zimmerman. People just wanted to deny it. They were not willing to accept --
PINSKY: Well, you know what? I was one of those people that --
MARTIN: -- the cold calculated murderer that he is.
PINSKY: Listen, I was one of those people who sort of sat on the fence, though, I was not really sure what I was seeing. I was willing to sort of
get the facts in. Well, here they are. They are just coming in.
MARTIN: What else do you need?
PINSKY: But, let me bring in someone who says he supports Mr. Zimmerman. He is David Duke. He is a former Louisiana State Representative, one-time
leader of the Ku Klux Klan.
SCHACHER: Wow.
PINSKY: He calls himself a European-American human rights activist. Mr. Duke, explain -- maybe you can react to our reaction.
DAVID DUKE, FORMER GRAND WIZARD, KU KLUX KLAN: Well, obviously, first off, I do not support his posting a picture of anybody that is dead that he
shot. That is not good for the family. It is not good for anybody. But, I do understand how the man is getting kind of frustrated. He has been
shot at. They have tried to kill him. He has been found innocent in a court of law.
And, certainly, the whole thing to me is nothing more what is going on right now in this country. What went on with the Trayvon Martin case is a
perfect example of the racism in the mass media against European-Americans. The only reason this was a huge case in the United States of America,
because it was a person called a white man, who shot a black man.
[21:30:06] There are blacks shot every day by blacks across the United States of America, and the truth is, according to the national crime
statistics by the justice department by Eric Holder who is an appointee of Obama, black people -- and you can look at the statistics. Black people
are 27 times more likely to physically attack a white person than a black person. But, you do not read about that in the press --
PINSKY: OK. All right. Hold on -- Hold on --
DUKE: There is no racism talked about. Here is the example --
PINSKY: I am going to get comment from my audience. Yes, ma`am. Go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I think George Zimmerman needs to be in jail.
PINSKY: Why?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, I think the fact that --
PINSKY: Why?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: -- he is re-tweeting this information --
PINSKY: But, what would he go to jail for?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Well, I mean he is not right in the mind and I think he is just empowering other people who share these beliefs
to be bolder.
PINSKY: OK.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He has gotten away with murder.
MARTIN: Yes. I think -- I was going to say, I think when she says he needs to be in jail, that the jurors should have found him guilty rather
than acquitting him for the murder -- of shooting Trayvon Martin.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: But, Mr. Duke brought up an interesting point. I do not want to validate what he was saying except to say that, "Listen, let us be
explicit." Sometimes, the behavior in the present echoes things that we have been struggling with this country for a long time and to even pretend
that is not so is a big mistake, I think. Let us just call it all out for what it is, you know what I mean? Am I making myself clear?
MARTIN: Well, I am not certain that I can agree with anything you are suggesting --
PINSKY: No. No. But, he was saying, "Oh, it does not happen that frequently." I do not care if it happens frequently or not. It is an
echo. It is a reminder of something that keeps -- know what I am saying? You can connect the dots. I know you had trouble the other night
connecting the dots to a lynching because it was divorced from what we were looking at.
CATHERWOOD: Right. Right.
PINSKY: It is not that I am saying --
CATHERWOOD: It is in fact, insulting to compare police taking someone to jail on a stretcher to a lynching.
PINSKY: But there is history to connect.
CATHERWOOD: Well, that was my argument against it. Peoplesay --
MARTIN: But, what is the connection, Dr. Drew? I am confused by your question, because you are trying to connect some legitimacy he is giving --
PINSKY: No, no, no.
MARTIN: -- to the shooting death of Trayvon Martin?
PINSKY: No, no, no, no, no, no.
CATHERWOOD: No. I think what Dr. Drew is trying to say is that to say -- well, you know -- for Mr. Duke to say European-Americans are constantly
discriminated against in the media, things like that, is to ignore the fact that the African-American has had a brutal and horrific, almost tragic-like
experience in America whereas European-Americans by and large, I mean excluding, you know, for a short time Irishmen and things like this, by and
large, have not.
MARTIN: But, Mike --
CATHERWOOD: They have avoided --
SCHACHER: Hold on.
MARTIN: What if the information that he is talking about against European- Americans, that is a ridiculous statement to say European-Americans, white Americans, who he is talking about have been discriminated against by whom?
SCHACHER: Yes, can we talk about -- can we call it what it is. What is a European-American activism? Is that a fancy word for a white supremacist?
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
MARTIN: And, who are these people that have been mistreated? Who are you talking about?
DUKE: Let me answer you. Look, if you wanted to invite me on the program, I would appreciate an opportunity to respond to some of the comments. No,
I am not a white supremacist. I do not believe in any sort of supremacism.
I believe every people have the right to live and preserve themselves. But, I do believe the media in this country has massive hate against
European-Americans. Let me give you an example. George Zimmerman was really lynched by the media.
I will give you example. Here is the picture that was shown primarily by the press around America, and around the world of the victim, of Trayvon
Martin. It was a picture taken years ago when he was 13 years old. Here is the picture of the real Trayvon Martin close to the time of the death.
I mean he was a gangster --
BARNETT: He is still a child. He was a child. I do not care if he is 11 or 14 years old. This young man was a child. And, you are trying to show
this picture as if some kind of justification to why he is dead? I cannot even --
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
And, you have had your time to speak. So, I do not know why you are trying to play victim here. You spoke, no one interrupted you. You spoke again,
no one interrupted. We are just saying it is hurtful and you are supremacist. Let us call it what it is.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: OK. We are having -- Mr. Duke, we have all kinds of technical issues with the Skype, so I am going to ask the control room to please deal
with that. You understand what I am saying? Yes, ma`am.
DUKE: I understand --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: First of all, that man was the grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, then he decided to run for political office.
So, anything he has to say about race is totally biased. Second of all, George Zimmerman has been displaying behavior that is very violent. He
tweeted not too long ago that you see what happened to the last guy that got in my way? So, this is something that has been building with him.
PINSKY: All right. This is not a -- we are not having a constructive argument. None of us are being constructive.
SCHACHER: Well, I just feel --
PINSKY: No, listen. Now, listen. He was not constructive -- it is nobody`s fault. It is just, I cannot stand when we all start spitting out
and splintering over a guy like Zimmerman.
CATHERWOOD: Here is the truth is that -- when all these cases we argue over, for months, you know, whether Kim Davis or you know octomom, it does
not matter. For years, you have these hot-button topics. You can, at least somehow, in the end find some sympathy for the people at the center
of it. And, George Zimmerman is one of those people that you cannot.
[21:35:01] PINSKY: That is right.
CATHERWOOD: He is truly hatable person and that is a terrible word.
BARNETT: And, we are supposed to be constructive? We have all agreed. Even he agreed that he should never have tweeted --
PINSKY: Who?
BARNETT: David Duke.
PINSKY: Yes. Yes.
BARNETT: He never should have tweeted that picture, so at what point --
PINSKY: But, as soon as you say -- everybody, we are all -- everyone here today is in the media, OK?
CATHERWOOD: Yes.
PINSKY: Do you all feel biased against European whites?
CATHERWOOD: No.
SCHACHER: No.
PINSKY: Do you hate European whites?
SCHACHER: No.
PINSKY: No. Anybody hate European whites? OK. I just want to make that straight. So, as soon as you make a statement like that, now we go all
over the place. I just want to -- Let us set that record straight.
We were just trying to look at Zimmerman`s behavior and understand him. We are not trying to make any statement about biases one way or the other. We
certainly -- no one has told me that European whites are somebody I should be -- Areva, you are a civil rights defense --
MARTIN: That is how we understand his argument, Dr. Drew --
PINSKY: Let us all start from a reasonable place and not that you are being unreasonable. I appreciate your comment --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He has been saying on his Twitter account, talking about his continued hate and violence.
SCHACHER: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: He has not learned anything I think from what happened to him. If anything, I think the situation has been
exacerbated because people do continue to give him that energy and tell him that he did the right thing in taking the innocent person`s life.
PINSKY: Yes, ma`am. That is where I want to pick -- that is right. Hold on. Hold on.
SCHACHER: Yes. Yes.
PINSKY: That is where I want to pick this up, because that is what I am interested in is how he as lightning rod for people to gather around. And,
what is it about this guy? We will keep this going.
Later on, attention shoppers. Another brawl caught on tape, of course, Walmart. Good times. Back after this.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
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(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
[21:40:40] UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: George Zimmerman is battling what he calls Twitter trolls over an outrageous image posted on his
account. A fan sent him a photo of Trayvon Martin`s dead body, and Zimmerman re-tweeted that image to his 12,000 followers. Twitter removed
the photo, but Zimmerman is still posting. He wants to know when Twitter will remove the picture of him with a $10,000 bounty on his head.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: That is not OK either. George Zimmerman making headlines again for re-tweeting that picture of Trayvon Martin. I am back with Sam,
Vanessa, Mike, Areva.
SCHACHER: His fans -- this is unbelievable to me. You are famous for murdering an unarmed teenager? What type of country do we live in? Where
people celebrate that?
(AUDIENCE APLAUDING)
BARNETT: I would not be surprised if he actually sent it to himself. He strikes me as the type of person to have several accounts that trolls, that
says negative things. I would not be surprised, if he is in fact 11,000 of his own followers.
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
SCHACHER: Wow.
PINSKY: Yes, ma`am.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE: At the end of the day, it is getting -- it is disgusting. It is not a race issue. This grown man shot a child and is
reposting a picture of his dead body. He has displayed violent tendencies since he has been acquitted.
As somebody who has been acquitted of murder, you do not go around doing violence and bringing attention to yourself. He needs to just sit down and
stay out of the limelight.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: I agree. I mean even Casey Anthony dropped out of the picture, right?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: Right? Where has she been?
CATHERWOOD: It took O.J. like 20 years to get busted for something again, you know?
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
MARTIN: I just think that he has figured out a way to get all of this media attention, and it is becoming a part of his brand. This bad boy
violence, domestic violence, relationship issues, re-tweeting Trayvon Martin.
He knew that was going to provoke such a violent response amongst millions of and millions of Americans. And he did it because he just loves the
attention and we keep giving it to him, so we should expect more from this guy. He is a psychopath in my opinion.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Yes, ma`am. Yes, go ahead.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: I was just going to say, off of what you said, I do not think the country has changed much at all. I think what
happened is the internet has been brought into play.
And I feel like, you know, before the internet there could be one crazy person in the town and they are all alone. But, what has happened is now
everyone has connected. All the crazies can get together. He can have 20,000 followers.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
SCHACHER: Yes.
PINSKY: Yes.
SCHACHER: Smart.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: But nothing has changed. The only thing that has gotten smaller is the way that we communicate with each
other. So --
PINSKY: Let me bring on --
SCHACHER: That is profound, very profound.
PINSKY: I think she is right. I got Andy Hallinan. He is a friend of Zimmerman and owner of a Florida gun supply shop. Now, you say the media
has made the villain of George Zimmerman.
And, yet, it just seems to me that we are just reporting what he is doing. I understand that it does not look good, but what do you mean, that the
media has made a villain of the guy?
ANDY HALLINAN, FRIEND OF ZIMMERMAN AND OWNER OF A FLORIDA GUN SUPPLY SHOP: Yes, you know, I appreciate you guys having me on for the second point of
view. Look, the bottom line is, you know, for the first 40 days after this tragedy happened with George and Trayvon, you know, he was not even charged
with the crime until the biased media stepped in, edited his 911 call to make him sound like racist, and then turned around and had, you know,
President Obama and Eric Holder of the Justice Department bring charges about.
I mean he never should have seen the inside of a courtroom, you know, basically a fact. Now, you guys constantly mentioned in the media, is that
he murdered an unarmed child. Well, look. You know, Ted Nugent says it best.
If you attacked a guy with a gun, whether you are 17 years old or 7, and you make that guy believe that he is going to die, chances are pretty good
that you are going to get shot no matter what age you are, you know? So, it is just kind of a -- you know, a biased thing where, you know, if a man
sneezes, the media says that he is guilty, right? --
CATHERWOOD: Mr. Hallinan.
BARNETT: I would not --
PINSKY: Hang on. Vanessa.
BARNETT: I would not stalk a child through a neighborhood because he had on a hoodie. I would not hunt somebody down when the police specifically
told me not to.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
There are a lot of things that George Zimmerman did that I would never do in my life. So, do not try to compare apples and oranges here. The
problem is your friend is a pretty messed-up person. And not because --
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
[21:45:00] Not only because of his murdering tactics, but also because he is going around parading the body of the person that he murdered. You
cannot, in good conscience, be a good friend and say, "You know what, buddy? That is a good re-tweet right there." That is just not smart. So
check your friend. Check your friend.
PINSKY: Areva.
MARTIN: It is curious to me that both of the supporters of George Zimmerman are somehow blaming the media for his own actions? What about
his own personal accountability? The media did not cause him to re-tweet that picture. The media did not cause him to strike those women. The
media does not have anything to do with his conduct.
PINSKY: To be fair, I think they mean the sort of mob mentality that has people giving death threats to Zimmerman, which is not right either.
CATHERWOOD: No.
BARNETT: No, not at all.
MARTIN: He is feeding into that mentality when he goes on Twitter, social media, re-tweets a picture. He is inviting that kind of attention, that
negative attention, because he wants it. He loves it.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Real quick.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: And, I think when you talk about PC, where is the moral compass? And, that is why I think people like Trump --
that is why this argument is happening, because people are not saying, "No more. I am with you." The internet is bringing out. Now, it is no longer
hidden. No more underneath the bushes.
PINSKY: But, you know what I like? Congratulations to everybody in the room for pulling it back together again. It could easily -- we can fly all
apart in everything. We need to get together.
Whenever there is acrimony bring all the players in, let us talk. I believe in Americans. I believe we can get stuff done if we just -- Areva,
you are smiling. Come on now. Come on, now.
(LAUGHING)
MARTIN: I am agreeing with you.
PINSKY: All right. Thank you.
MARTIN: I would agree.
PINSKY: All right. I got to go.
Next up, a $7 T-shirt and an alleged theft spark a fight at a Walmart, of course. Back after this.
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(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[21:50:53] PINSKY: Time for "Click Fix," where the guests tell me what is trending on their Twitter, Facebook and Instagram feeds, and it is Sam
first.
SCHACHER: OK. This story has been all over my Facebook feed. And, a back to school record for a school in Long Island, New York. 11 -- 11 sets of
twins in one incoming kindergarten class.
PINSKY: Wow.
CATHERWOOD: Come on.
BARNETT: What?
SCHACHER: At the Lynbrook Kindergarten Center. Watch.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: How, in fact, are you going to keep them straight?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE TEACHER: I have a list. I made a chart.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Jillian and Jolie Bay, the Brendan twins Logan and Lucas.
JILLIAN BAY, ONE OF THE 11 SETS OF TWINS STUDYING AT LYNBROOKE KINDERGARTEN CENTER: Hi.
JOLIE BAY, ONE OF THE 11 SETS OF TWINS STUDYING AT LYNBROOKE KINDERGARTEN CENTER: Hi.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Are you identical twins or fraternal twins?
JILLIAN: Fraternal.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: Riley and Leila Perez, still 4 years old.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
RILEY PEREZ, ONE OF THE 11 SETS OF TWINS STUDYING AT LYNBROOKE KINDERGARTEN CENTER: Good.
LEILA PEREZ, ONE OF THE 11 SETS OF TWINS STUDYING AT LYNBROOKE KINDERGARTEN CENTER: Good.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: What do you like best?
RILEY: Reading books.
LEILA: Reading.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SCHACHER: Crazy. Now, right down the street at a high school in Plainview, ten sets of twins.
CATHERWOOD: Come on!
SCHACHER: All who started together in 2002, just graduated.
PINSKY: I am just saying --
(LAUGHING)
SCHACHER: What the heck? What is in the water over there?
PINSKY: Not only that, having raised triplets, I am just saying these poor parents.
CATHERWOOD: Yes.
SCHACHER: And, their teachers, their teachers.
PINSKY: The parents. The parents. Vanessa.
BARNETT: My story is totally different. All over Twitter, this wife is amazing. So, a guy driving to work in Sheffield, England. Yes, this is a
sign. You will see it in a second. Busiest road. He got an eyeful because his wife puts on a billboard, "To my cheating husband Paul. You
deserve each other. When you get home I will not be there. Enjoy your drive to work, Lisa."
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Oh!
BARNETT: Calling out her cheating hubby. So, according to the guy from the billboard company, Lisa chose a digital billboard which cost her about
$611. Money well spent. So, she could time it for precisely to coincide with her husband`s compute. And, Twitter has mixed reactions, though.
Someone tweeted, Nicoli, said, "This is idiotic. What do we know if he was actually cheating or she was just mad" -- Such a dude tweet -- or she was
just mad. I am thinking the second. I am thinking he probably cheats on his girl and is hoping the same does not happen to him.
PINSKY: Yes, there you go.
CATHERWOOD: That was such a British message. It was so polite. You know, if that was an American woman? She would be like, "You are a dick and I am
going to kill you and you are car is destroyed. I am going to kill that bitch too!"
So, I saw this on Twitter. A guy goes to fill his tank. OK? And, he notices a spider on his gas tank. Apparently, he is very afraid of
spiders. So afraid of spiders that he does not even think that he has a lighter in his hand. I am going to kill the spider with a lighter while I
fill up my gas tank!
SCHACHER: That is so mean.
PINSKY: It is so mean.
SCHACHER: It is.
CATHERWOOD: I know.
SCHACHER: Who lights a spider on fire?
CATHERWOOD: Luckily, a quick-thinking employee turned off like the regulator switch for the gasoline. But what? I mean what -- That is
insane.
PINSKY: Mike.
CATHERWOOD: Look at that.
PINSKY: Mike, did you hear Sam`s reaction to this?
SCHACHER: Dr. Drew.
(LAUGHING)
CATHERWOOD: The poor spider. The poor spider, no one should put fire to a spider! That is --
(LAUGHING)
SCHACHER: Is that how I talk?
CATHERWOOD: That guy almost blew up the gas station! It was a massive explosion!
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: I mean it would have been a fireball, 800 feet in the air.
SCHACHER: OK.
PINSKY: Next up, another Walmart brawl. You will see that after this.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
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(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: Time for my "Click Fix." It is another Walmart brawl. Take a look at this.
(LAUGHING)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Get out of here, man! Cut it out. Cut it out! Somebody call the police, please!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: According to Walmart, the brawl started when a security guard saw a guy attempting to shoplift. The guard then tried to get this alleged
thief to talk. But the guard was then attacked by several other people.
Backup arrived. This was a second guard. That guy was attacked. Apparently, the entire incident was over a $7 T-shirt. A 14-year-old was
arrested in this matter. And, a 16-year-old, his sixth arrest this year.
BARNETT: Wow.
PINSKY: That dude is in some trouble.
SCHACHER: Do you realize we can do like a mashup now of Walmart brawls? That is a problem. We could easily create a mashup with all the ones we
have showcased on this show.
PINSKY: But, that is us, guys.
SCHACHER: I know.
PINSKY: That is something about us, not Walmart. I am just saying.
(LAUGHING)
BARNETT: It says something about Walmart. Everyone brawls at Walmart? It says something about Walmart too.
CATHERWOOD: Well, Drew, that $7 shirt, was that Tom Ford? A Dior?
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: Well, that is why it was $7. That is why they wanted it so badly.
CATHERWOOD: I am just curious.
PINSKY: A reminder, everybody, we are on SnapChat. You can join us there @DrDrewHLN. We also do an after show on Facebook. Please do check us out
there, which we do later. What do you want topics? You want Zimmerman? You want Trump? Zimmerman probably, right?
SCHACHER: Zimmerman. Thank you.
PINSKY: All right. Zimmerman, we will probably do that. So, please, check us out on Facebook. Audience, thank you so much for a being here
participating. Panels great job. We will see you next time.
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