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A Cop Slaps And Kicks A Young Man At A Public School In Baltimore; A Legislator Arrested For Allegedly Trying To Lure A 14-Year-Old Girl Into Sex; Sportscasters, Who Was Exposed Online, Through A Peeping Tom, Is Exposed Yet again, But This Time Outside Of The Courtroom; A Witness Who Testified On Monday, Was Spotted Viewing The Infamous Peephole Video Of Erin Andrews In The Nude Over Dinner With His Friends; A Criminal Investigation After The Release Of This Disturbing Cell Phone Video, Captured On A Baltimore High School Campus; New Hampshire Representative Was Arrested For Allegedly Trying To Lure A 14-Year-Old Girl Into Having Sex
Aired March 03, 2016 - 21:00 ET
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[21:00:15] ROLONDA WATTS, HLN CO-HOST OF "DR. DREW" PROGRAM (voice-over): A cop slaps and kicks a young man at a public school in Baltimore. Is
there any defense, well, for what appears to be a crime here? Take a look at that. Plus, a legislator arrested for allegedly trying to lure a 14-
year-old girl into sex. Police say he texted her or sexted her during a government meeting. "Dr. Drew" starts right now.
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WATTS (on camera): Hello, everybody. I am Rolonda Watts and I am sitting in for Dr. Drew tonight and I am going to be completely transparent with
you. There are three things in this world that I detest. That is peeping toms, pedophiles, and police, who slap around children.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
I have a great audience here, an incredible panel, and we are going to tackle those topics today. Starting off with a shocking twist. You have
heard about Erin Andrews, that big trial that is going on. She is the sportscasters, who was exposed online, through a peeping tom. Well, she is
exposed yet again. This time, outside of the courtroom. Take a look at this.
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ERIN ANDREWS, FOX SPORTSCASTER: I was just screaming that I was naked all over the internet and I did not know what it was.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE LAWYER: Why did you post the video of Ms. Andrews?
MICHAEL DAVID BARRETT, ANDREWS STALKER WHO VIDEOTAPED HER NAKED IN HER HOTEL ROOM: That is a great question. I really do not know why I did.
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ANDREWS: Probably for like three months, everybody thought it was a publicity stunt.
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BARRETT: Because I knew what I was doing was wrong. I knew it was horrible thing. For her sake, for my sake, I knew that soon enough, I
would be in huge trouble.
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ANDREWS: My naked body was on the front page of the "New York Post" like they had put bars over my body parts.
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DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST OF "DR. DREW" PROGRAM: In spite of it not being her fault, it triggers shame. And, shame is a very toxic emotion. That is
all the shame that is evoked by having been the object of an intrusion.
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WATTS: Intrusion, indeed. And, even more bombshell information. A witness who testified on Monday, get this, was spotted viewing the infamous
peephole video of Erin Andrews in the nude over dinner with his friends. A waiter told local media that she saw Neal Peskind showing this video to his
friends on a phone. You can only imagine the conversation around that table, right?
The waiter refused to go on camera, and she has deleted a series of tweets that she posted about the incident. Talk exposure! In response, the
witness, Mr. Peskind said this. "I was at a private dinner meeting with friends. They brought up the allegations and they started viewing the
video. I asked them to stop, and while they did so, it was not as quickly as I had hoped."
Oh, come on! Really?! You should have never showed them the tape in the beginning, to start with. Leann Tweeden, radio talk show host, L.A. Today
AM 570 is joining me. She is also a sportscaster. I am sure she has a lot to say about this.
AnneElise Goetz, boy, she is a great attorney, and she is also the host of the podcast, "Your Life And The Law." Karamo Brown, T.V. Host and Sara
Azari, Attorney. And, we also have, joining us, Spirit, Psychotherapist.
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Welcome, everybody. This is a great panel. We also have our guest audience here, as well. Great panel. Let us get right to it. I mean, did
this guy hurt or help Andrews` case here?
LEEANN TWEEDEN, SPORTSCASTER: For me, personally, I think her career -- she had a great career before. She was well respected. We worked in the
same circles. We both did the same things, I was a sideline reporter as well and I worked at Fox Sports for years and ESPN at the beginning of my
career.
I hate to say it, when they say that her career took off after this case, it did. She got "Dancing with the Stars." She got multi-million dollar
contract. Things did happen because people knew her. It reminded me, not in the same situation, because this is a completely different situation.
But remember when Jessica Simpson was caught saying, "Is that chicken or fish for the tuna can?"
WATTS: Right.
TWEEDEN: And, all of a sudden, for like a few months, everybody was like, "God, that is the dumbest girl in the world." And, then, suddenly she and
her husband have reality show. She has a billion-dollar business with her clothing line -- everybody wanted to be her because everybody knew her.
WATTS: I say if you can get all that and $75 million too, everybody wants their own peeping tom.
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KARAMO BROWN, T.V. HOST: Well, no. Not at all. I have to disagree.
WATTS: Come on, $75 million! "Dancing with the Stars," excuse me.
ANNEELISE GOETZ, ATTORNEY: No. No.
WATTS: AnneElise.
GOETZ: She is not getting $75 million. There is no way that she gets that. If the jury loses their mind and gives her $75 million, it is going
to be turned over --
WATTS: But, then, AnneElise, what is she going to get? Cannot she get something?
GOETZ: Yes. I think she will get something. I think Marriott had a very, very strong case and unfortunately maybe have not played their hand as well
as they should have. We saw two days ago with one of their main witnesses, watching the video. They are not handling it well.
[21:05:06] And, frankly to have a conversation of, did she benefit from what is going here, you should not be attacking her. The jury is going to
love her. America loves her, and she is a victim. And, there is no other way to say it. She is a victim. You should not be attacking her.
WATTS: But also this, viewing -- sitting around a table, showing nude pictures. You can only imagine the conversation that was going on around
that table. "Hey, look at this," talking about her body, the whole bit there. It almost goes and proves exactly what she is saying. I am being
exposed all over the place.
TWEEDEN: Again and again.
WATTS: But what you are saying is, "Yes, but you are benefitting from that exposure." Let me tell you something else that was a real bombshell today.
This thing got me. Today in court, the jury heard from Jesse Palmer.
Now, he is one of the finest men on T.V., ESPN Football Analyst and all of that, but is also Erin`s former coworker. And, get this, this man is
Erin`s college friend. And, let me see if you think this is very damaging. He claims that Erin Andrews was emotional way before this video was even
leaked. Take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: When you say that she was -- that she is an emotional person, what do you mean by that?
JESSE PALMER, ESPN COLLEGE FOOTBALL ANALYST: She can get angry. She can cry. She got a spectrum. It does not take a lot. She can get -- she is -
- she is definitely very outgoing. She has a great personality, but she is -- like, what I consider to be -- she is emotional.
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WATTS: Come on! That is a college friend. With friends like that, who knows enemies, right?
BROWN: Exactly!
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WATTS: I mean, is this helping? Come on! Karamo, this is ridiculous. Let me tell you what, if any of my college friends are -- and a coworker,
at that.
BROWN: Yes.
WATTS: Anybody at HLN, Dr. Drew, turned me in, you are in trouble. I just got to say that. What do you think, Karamo?
BROWN: I think it is despicable, because it is sexist. I mean to go and talk about the fact that she was emotional has nothing to do with that she
was victimized. She was a victim in this case, and that is why we really need to make sure that we stay very clear.
All these things, talking about that she was benefitting with a career afterwards, that does not take away. How would you feel if your mother,
your sister, your daughter was being peeped on? I do not care if she got a contract or what happened to her career. This woman was violated and that
is disgusting.
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WATTS: Absolutely. Absolutely. What do you think?
SARA AZARI, ATTORNEY: You know what? Not to undermine that she suffered emotional damages, OK? She absolutely did. But, the question then
becomes, how far was she damaged and injured?
And, that is the issue here, the damage that she is seeking, $75 million, like AnneElise said, is absolutely obscene. It is actually offensive. In
a world today, where minority kids are being killed by cops and their families are suing -- wrongful death lawsuits, and --
WATTS: Wait a minute! When you talk about cops, I am going to tell you about a Baltimore cop in a school that slapped around a kid. You are going
to be so upset about this. The cop slapping and kicking a 16-year-old. And, yes, the video has, what? Gone viral. We will be right back, right
after this.
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ERIN ANDREWS: The stuff I hear and I try very hard to block out, "I have seen your this, I have seen your that. Hey, I see what you do here." It
happens all the time. Every single game.
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PALMER: To be honest, she gets a lot of attention for the way she looks. So, I am not sure what guys would say, but I am sure -- I know for a fact,
even before, there were people that were giving explicit sexual comments to her that are not appropriate; but, again, because of how she looks, I think
it is -- I hate to say expected, but I think in that job, it kind of is.
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WATTS: Wow, and that is a friend. Hello, I am Rolonda Watts. Thanks for joining us. Sitting in for Dr. Drew tonight, I am. And, I am also back
with Leeann, and AnneElise, and Sara, Karamo and Spirit. Spirit, we are going to come to you out there in just a bit, because I want to know what
the psychological effects might be on this shameful scandal.
You just heard Sports Analyst Jesse Palmer saying that sexually explicit heckling is something that is supposed to be expected in Erin Andrews`
life, especially in her line of work. And, Leeann, you are in that line of work, do you get heckled?
TWEEDEN: Yes.
WATTS: Yes.
TWEEDEN: I mean it is a fact of life. It sucks, because I am out there doing a job. I mean I remember being at a USC-UCLA game for Fox and it was
-- you get more positive stuff than you do that, but you get those guys. You get people that try to grab your butt when you are in a crowd, and they
try to run away and they think it is funny.
I mean, really -- I mean it is really awful. But -- not that I am saying that -- it is a part of life, I do not like it, but it is going to happen.
And, for him to say, like, she is concerned with -- we are all concerned with how we look. That is part of our job.
WATTS: Absolutely.
TWEEDEN: He is concerned! Jesse, I know you. He is concerned with having the right tie and the nice shoes. Look how great Karamo is --
BROWN: You can tell by the way his hair is croft --
TWEEDEN: Thank you.
BROWN: Like this man spends a lot of time in the mirror. But, I like the point you brought up. It is horrible that this goes on. And, it just
shows another point, which we will talk about, I guess another thing, but we should be raising our boys better.
WATTS: Uh-huh.
BROWN: You know, it is a priority of mine with my son, about how I am raising him and how I am approaching it. Just because you are in a male-
dominated field, does not mean you should be degrading the women at all. It is disgusting and it is deplorable. And, when men do that, they should
be fired immediately.
TWEEDEN: Thank you.
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WATTS: Jesse Palmer was also asked if Erin Andrews liked to show off her body. This is what her old college chum said.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Did you, in the time that you have known her, know her to be a provocative dresser, someone who wants to show off her
body all the time?
PALMER: I think she is very confident in how she looks, and I think she does not, you know, she is -- I have been around her, certainly, when she
is dressed. I do not know if provocative is the word, but she is not wearing a cloak.
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[21:15:07] WATTS: Wow, that is your college friend there, and your coworker, hammering the old nail. Spirit, I have got to go to you. I
mean, first of all, clothing choices, does that really matter? But I also really want to talk with you about what shame does to somebody.
I mean, one of the things she is saying is "I have not benefited from this. Yes, I have gotten a bunch of jobs, but nobody knows what I go through day
to day. The shame that I feel, a feeling that everybody in the stadium is looking at me, that people are talking about me over the dinner table."
What does that do internally to somebody?
SPIRIT, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: You know, it just absolutely tears them apart, Rolonda. And, I see this and I feel so bad for her, because in this
situation, she is not being paranoid. This is exactly what is happening, because millions of people have viewed this video; 16 million and counting.
And, you ask the question in the first segment, did that individual prove her case?
Yes, he absolutely shows that all these years later, people are still watching. They are still laughing. She is still being subjected to being
victimized. And, her "Friend," Jesse, my goodness, I just want to put him on my couch, because the misogynistic rhetoric that he is espousing --
WATTS: Absolutely.
SPIRIT: -- about how she should just deal with this, about how she should just expect it, and because she was a confident woman who chose to dress in
a confident manner, she has the right to be subjected to this and not be emotional about it, because everybody in America and around the world can
see her naked body at her choosing, he should be ashamed of himself. He should be ashamed of himself to go out there in front of millions of
people, espousing this kind of garbage to our youth.
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WATTS: That is such a betrayal, also, I believe. Total -- painful to watch. You know, you brought up that -- what some of the folks are saying,
and I am going to tell you, a lot of our tweets are saying things like what Barbara just tweeted here. She said, "You are lucky you look so nice in
the nude. If you looked like me, then you would really cry over photos."
And girlfriend, Barbara, honey, out there, I can so agree with you, girlfriend. But, look, you might get a job on "Dancing with the Stars."
But, anyway, Erin says that this scandal does continue to affect her and also affect her relationships.
Spirit, let me ask you real quick about that. How does scandal affect you when you are in a relationship? I mean, especially when your body has been
displayed all over the internet?
SPIRIT: Well, you know, it robs you of your very being, because you do not feel in control of your body and you are not. You do not know when you
meet somebody, how much they know about you. And, now, not only do they know you from your professional life, but they know your private life, the
parts of you that you may not even want to share with them.
And, let me say this really quickly to Rolonda. Because I detest that the suggestion that she is getting all of these jobs simply because this has
happened to her, we do not know her career. We do not know how hard she has worked.
And, for all of us that work in media, we know that there are years of groundwork, of blood, sweat, and tears that we put into these jobs, just
like everybody else. So, let us not disrespect her and just think because she had this naked body opportunity that everybody is making it out to be,
that somehow she has benefitted from this.
WATTS: That is right. That is right. But -- but, also -- but you know, something, Spirit, the reality is, we live in a society of Kardashian`s and
Paris Hilton`s that spread their legs and become famous. Let us be real. Let us be real.
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SPIRIT: I could care less. Not everybody chooses to have that happen. So, if that is what she chose to do, if she took that Kardashian route, if
she took that Paris Hilton route, then that is one thing.
WATTS: I know.
SPIRIT: But, we are not talking about that.
WATTS: But, I think --
SPIRIT: We are talking about a woman, who was in the privacy of her hotel room --
WATTS: You are right. Absolutely.
SPIRIT: -- who had this happen to her.
WATTS: Absolutely. But, we are dealing with a society that has a certain preset mentality that deals with exploitation, particularly, of women. Let
us go to our audience member.
SPIRIT: Well, then it is time to change it.
WATTS: Absolutely. Absolutely, Spirit. From the audience?
PAULINE VIOLET, AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, hi.
WATTS: Hi.
VIOLET: My name is Pauline Violet. And, I want to say, I feel that she should be rewarded the money. I do disagree with you, not in a
disrespectful way. This is going to teach Marriott. There is a privacy oath.
When you check in to a facility, you want to come in there, shower, take care of your corporate business or your vacation, and you do not want to
have the risk of being spied on. So, I do feel she has had some emotional baggage from this.
Not only that, like you said, it is up on the internet. You know, you do not know if it is attached to any type of pornographic sites. And, I feel
she should be rewarded, because somebody is making a buck on it.
WATTS: Let me ask you something.
AZARI: But, she will be awarded, but the issue is, $75 million, when people die and they bring wrongful death suits --
VIOLET: You would not want $75 million if someone had a nudity picture is floating around in the internet of your professional career --
AZARI: But that is not reasonable.
VIOLET: -- and media?
AZARI: That is unreasonable.
VIOLET: It is not unreasonable, because we are talking about a woman`s livelihood -- children, and family.
(CROSSTALKS)
WATTS: But, let me ask you this. Hold on. Let me ask you this.
GOETZ: Hear this --
WATTS: AnneElise, I will get to you. Let me ask you this.
VIOLET: Yes.
WATTS: You go to a hotel room.
VIOLET: Yes.
[21:20:00] WATTS: Are you suddenly, as a woman thinking, oh, my God, maybe somebody --
VIOLET: Yes.
WATTS: Do you feel a little intruded upon as a woman listening to this.
VIOLET: Yes. Yes. It makes a warning sign come up like, "OK. So, there is really no privacy anywhere."
WATTS: And, I bet your business is all over this country --
GOETZ: But, here is the thing.
WATTS: AnneElise, talk to me.
GOETZ: Here is the thing. Here is the difference. There was a crime committed here, and it was by a serial stalker. When you look at what
Marriott has done, Marriott had just passed security procedures three months beforehand.
This criminal went into Marriott and tried to end around all of those procedures so that he could violate Erin Andrews. Now, that does not, in
my opinion, make Marriott left footing the bill.
WATTS: Exactly. And, how responsible are they?
AZARI: And, you know what? The $75 million is primarily punitive damages. For Marriott to be liable for punitive damages, they have to show that
there was some malice, there was some intent to breach her privacy. And, there is no such thing here. It is negligence.
WATTS: Speaking of malice and intent, coming up next, can anything justify this? A police officer kicking and slapping a little kid in a public
school. We are going to find out about this Baltimore cop in a school, slapping children right after this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: A criminal investigation after the release of this disturbing cell phone video, captured on a Baltimore high school
campus. In the five-second clip, you can see a school officer yelling profanities while slapping a young man three times and kicking him as he
walked away.
One slap striking him so hard, you can hear it. The attorney for the teenage youth says he is a tenth grader enrolled at the public high school.
He was just trying to attend class. The acting school police chief has a different story.
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AKIL HAMM, SCHOOL POLICE CHIEF: Our officers were called because of an intruder.
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WATTS: You should hear the audience in here going, "My goodness, those were some serious slaps there." I am Rolonda Watts, filling in for Dr.
Drew today. And, that dramatic, it was only five seconds of a video, but did not it hit you in your gut when you saw that?
Once again, here we are with a video that has gone viral, secretly filmed by the kid`s friend. Now, the officer, who happens to work for the
Baltimore City school, is under criminal investigation for that assault. We are back right now with a dynamite panel.
We have got Leeann, AnneElise, Sara, Karamo, and Spirit joining us from Atlanta. Was this -- I mean, how do you justify -- I mean I am going to be
honest with you. I got a couple of kids in my life, I would love to slap around.
BROWN: Uh-huh.
WATTS: But I cannot do that. We cannot do that to children.
BROWN: Children.
AZARI: It is against the law. It is corporal punishment, which is against the law in most states. And, in this case, in Baltimore, where there is
this tremendous tension between the community and law enforcement, between racist cops beating up minority kids and minority adults, even, this is
serious conduct.
It is criminal conduct. I think that even though we do not know what led up to this incident, what the kid may have done, if he was a student, if he
was an intruder, nothing justifies this type of kicking and slapping. I do not care if it is --
BROWN: Well, the reporter said that he was a student.
AZARI: Yes.
BROWN: So, he was supposed to be there.
AZARI: So, even worse.
BROWN: So, it is even worse.
AZARI: Yes.
BROWN: He is where he is supposed to be.
AZARI: And, to me, who cares if he is school police. City police, county police, you are a police officer. You are not to do this. This is
unreasonable force. It is police brutality.
WATTS: Well, let me tell you this. I found it very interesting that the police officers in the schools, these resource officers, are trained in the
same police academy that the Baltimore police are trained in. Now, some might say that there is systemic racism in the police department --
AZARI: And there is.
WATTS: So, does that follow and trickle down into the schools as well?
AZARI: Absolutely!
BROWN: I think it shows that we really need to evaluate the police force altogether. I never want to like say that all police are bad, because that
is not the truth. But in this case, we really have to see. I mean when they say the revolution is being televised, it is being televised because
of these cell phone videos.
And, we are seeing that something needs to change with police officers. And, in this case as a parent, I want to go down there and I want to knock
that man out personally. He deserves to be knocked out. So, sorry, that you just hit a child several times.
WATTS: Come on!
BROWN: Look at the size difference. Get out of here with that.
WATTS: Spirit. I want to go to Spirit. Spirit, I understand you have a lot of children.
(LAUGHING)
SPIRIT: Oh, yes. I have six and I agree with Karamo 100 percent. Had this been my child? Rolonda, I would have lost my professional license, my
personal freedom, and my invitation into heaven, OK?
(LAUGHING)
Because he would be a dead man. He would be -- my reaction when I saw this was so visceral. This is not about race. This is about a violation of
somebody`s person, OK? And, the idea that he has been violated in this way is absolutely deplorable.
This man needs to be locked up, because this is an abuse of power. I do not care what the race of he was. I do not care what the race of the
victim was. This, plain and simple, is assault.
GOETZ: Spirit.
SPIRIT: And, he needs to be prosecuted.
WATTS: Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPIRIT: As well as the officer that sat in the back and watched him.
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WATTS: And both of them are paying for this, dearly, today, including that officer, who was a woman who sat back there --
SPIRIT: They should be locked up, but they are still at home. They are still at home. They should be behind bars for assault. And, I hope his
parents press charges.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING AND CHEERING)
GOETZ: Spirit, there is a criminal investigation going on. Not only is there an internal investigation going on for their jobs, but there is a
criminal investigation going on, as well, for the assault, the conduct that we are seeing in this video. Obviously, we are going to need more
witnesses, because it is an investigation. We are seeing four seconds. And, there is a lot that led up --
[21:30:00] SPIRIT: That is enough --
GOETZ: And, I agree with you, but you know when we are looking at a video, there is more than what those four seconds that we are seeing. Under no
circumstances --
SPIRIT: If I called 911 right now and said that someone assaulted me and my friend had a video of that person putting their hands on me, they would
leave in a cop car.
BROWN: That is right.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
SPIRIT: That is exactly where those officers should have left, in a cop car.
(CROSSTALKS)
WATTS: Let me tell you about the lawyer for the victim says. The lawyer told CNN that the kid has injuries to his ribs, to his face. He is 16
years old. He attends that school. My question, also, would be, if that video, which has obviously gone viral -- I mean what does that do for the
shame of that kid? How does that affect him as well?
BROWN: Yes.
WATTS: And, not to mention the other children who are in that school.
BROWN: Well, you know, to bring up other children, you know, I worked in social services before I began to do the television hosting. And, the
biggest thing when I saw this video, I hope that CPS is opening up a case to investigate him.
Because if he has any children in his life, I wonder how he is dealing with them. Because if you will deal with a stranger`s child like this, how are
you going to deal with your own children? I worry about the safety of the other children that are around him.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
WATTS: I also wonder when people will stand up and say, "That is wrong."
BROWN: Yes.
WATTS: I mean, that officer who was standing there behind watching is in as much trouble as the officer who actually slapped that kid three times.
And, there is some accountability on that, too.
GOETZ: When are we going to stop seeing officers in the schools, too? Because what we are really doing is criminalizing teenagers.
BROWN: Yes.
GOETZ: It is kids growing up -- when I was in school, people got in fights, right, and it was not like officers were running in and arresting
you and putting you in handcuffs. It should be the first line of defense of our educational system to discipline and we should not have officers
coming in and disciplining our children.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
WATTS: I will tell you the honest to God truth. While I agree with that, there are a lot of people across America who are saying, these young people
are out of their minds. They do not respect anybody. They do not have home training anymore. They need to be whooped every once in a while.
TWEEDEN: Well, sometimes, I think that is the problem. A lot of times, young kids in schools -- and I see it, I am a parent, too, but like younger
kids, these teenagers and young adults nowadays have no respect for a lot of things, authorities, their elders. I see them back talk their
grandparents. If I backtalk my grandmother when I was growing up, I would get a backhand from my father.
BROWN: That is right.
TWEEDEN: OK. And, that is how I was raised. OK? I was raised in the south and we had --
WATTS: Girl, I know! Take you to the shed!
(LAUGHING)
TWEEDEN: Exactly. So, the issue that AnneElise said, is the same thing that I thought too. There is more to it, because I hate when you see four
or five seconds. That guy did not even look like he was slapping. That second one looked like a punch to me. I would punch him, too, if that was
my child. But there is more to the story. I do not know if that kid -- whatever.
There is no right he should put his hands on him. He is a cop, he can take authority over it. I am disappointed that he hit the kid. He should never
hit that child. He always has the authority, he can do something, but there is always more to the story. Something happened.
WATTS: Yes. Well, what is more to the story also is that he was trained by the same police department in Baltimore that has some issues in itself.
AZARI: And, you know, that is where they are trained to --
WATTS: Whoop some head.
AZARI: To whoop some head. That is where they are trained to enforce the law in a sort of racist matter. And, it is even worse when it is
intraracial, when it is black on black or Hispanic on Hispanic. Sometimes we tend to think, it is black on white, and that is not the case.
Sometimes the worst instances of police brutality are within the same race.
WATTS: Listen, honey, sometimes black folks can be more racist to black folks than white folks call ever do to us.
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AZARI: Exactly.
WATTS: I am here to tell you. Next, we are going to keep this conversation going and we want to get the audience involve. I see some
hands raising. We are going to get up there just a second.
Also a little later, a New Hampshire representative gets arrested. Now, this story just really got to me. I cannot stand pedophiles or the
allegations of such. This guy was arrested for allegedly trying to lure a 14-year-old girl into having sex. And, where did he find her? On the
internet. We will be right back after this.
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ROBIN MEADE, HLN HOST OF "MORNING EXPRESS WITH ROBIN MEADE" PROGRAM (on camera): Three school police officers are on paid leave after a video
surfaced showing one of them slapping and kicking a teen.
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MEADE (voice-over): Oh man! The force of those slaps. This is At Reach Partnership High School in Baltimore. An attorney for one of the officers
said he was responding to a call about an intruder on the grounds of the school and that the young man allegedly became belligerent. The officer is
now under investigation.
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WATTS: I am Rolonda Watts in for Dr. Drew. And we are debating the use of force by that officer in Baltimore in a high school, slapping around a 16-
year-old. And, does not it just bring back so many memories of so many videos that we have seen.
We are not saying that all the cops are bad, but in a time when we are trying to build trust with communities and young students, even, this is
not the time to see this video. The officer`s attorney still insists that the teen in question was not a student, even though there are rumors that
he was, we are not really clear about this. But listen to what they had to say.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: When you first saw the video, what was your reaction?
AKIL HAMM, SCHOOL POLICE CHIEF: Being a father of two teenage sons, it was very troubling for me to see.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE REPORTER: According to police rules, how did the officer behave in your view?
HAMM: Excessive.
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WATTS: We are back now with Leeann, and AnneElise, and Sara, Karamo, and Spirit as we discuss this. This is something. AnneElise, what are you
thinking?
GOETZ: Here is the thing. When they come out of the gate and the chief of police, I think that is what his title was --
WATTS: Yes.
GOETZ: -- is saying it is excessive, it is not good for this guy.
WATTS: Not good!
GOETZ: All right. And, it is good when you have videos like this and you see a police department agree with the public, get ahead of the story, and
say, this was not appropriate conduct and we are taking action. Because that is what helps to restore the faith again.
[21:40:03] WATTS: Absolutely. Absolutely.
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And, do not you guys want to see more people, citizens, and other police officers who step up and say, "Hey, man, this is wrong. We do not need to
go all the way like that." This is a 16-year-old. Because that officer, that woman is in as much trouble as the officer, who actually slapped the
kid around.
TWEEDEN: Well, she stood by and let it happen. And, to me, granted, we do not know what happened before if he went belligerent, but he was one kid
standing there, I did not see another kid, other than the kid videotaping. So, I do not think he was a threat right there.
It is surprising that -- I mean if you want to take the kid out of the school and make him walk out and interrogate him or talk to him or whatever
and find out the situation, why could not he just, you know, walk him out, or put him in handcuffs, walk him out, find out if he is a student. I mean
even if he was trespassing, really, you have to punch the kid?
WATTS: Right. And, if he is a student, he had every right to be there.
BROWN: Well, that brings to me -- this is the thing that we need to -- we really have to focus on. It is a lack of training with the police
department. It is a lack of training with teachers. We are at a place right now where teachers -- I have been to my kid`s school, they are scared
to approach the children, because they do not know if they are going to be reprimanded for talking to a child a certain way. We have not given our
teachers enough power to do what happened when I was in school, when many of you were in school.
TWEEDEN: Paddle.
BROWN: Yes. You know --
TWEEDEN: I got paddled.
BROWN: My teachers --
TWEEDEN: You are not allowed to get paddled --
BROWN: Yes, I did not have a cop in my school, because my teacher gave me a look, and I knew this was the end of the road right here. And, so, to go
back to the training, we have to start focusing on that until we start putting some investigating committees into the police departments, into
schools and into all these areas, we are going to keep seeing this happen over and over and over again.
WATTS: That is right. That is right. And, let me tell you this, 43 percent of our schools across the nation have these type of resource
officers in the schools. Listen to what the school official had to say about what he saw on this video.
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KARL PERRY, REACH PARTNERSHIP HIGH SCHOOL OFFICIAL: I am a parent. And, I am totally appalled at what I saw in that video. No matter what the
circumstances are, I am totally appalled.
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WATTS: Let me also tell you what the mayor had to say. Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake in Baltimore. She described the scene, we keep hearing this
word again and again and again, appalling. She said the officer`s actions could further harm the relationship between the community and police. She
says, quote, "Anytime, there is a law enforcement officer with that level of authority that seems to be abusing that authority, it impacts all of us
across this country."
BROWN: Yes.
WATTS: I think those were some strong statements coming from the mayor of Baltimore. I think it takes a lot of guts to stand up and say that,
particularly about the police officers in her own town. We are not saying all the police officers in Baltimore or anywhere else are bad. I know some
great police officers, trust me.
But, every once in a while, our nation is riveted and rocked by the abuse of power. And, we keep seeing it again and again and again. And, it is
like, when is it going to stop? When are we going to have accountability for our co-partners, our partners out there fighting crime? You cannot let
your partner get in trouble like this. None of us can.
BROWN: I am really glad for this other student, you know, who recorded it. And, you know, this is the one moment when I am really happy when kids are
on their phone. Because, normally, I am like, get off your phone. But, these are the moments where I am like encouraging any kid out there, get on
your phone. If you see an injustice happening, make sure you record it.
Do not put yourself in danger, because we do not want kids to be in danger. But, this is what starts the conversation and this is when we start seeing
change. Because it is really going to be up to these millennials and these young kids who are going to create the change that is going to stop this.
WATTS: That is right.
BROWN: And, I want to keep on empowering them. Record this, put it out there. Let it go viral, because you are going to create the change.
WATTS: That is right, Karamo, because I will tell you what, I believe that for the millennial group, that this is your civil rights movement.
BROWN: Yes, it is.
WATTS: Get that phone out. Get that phone out.
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BROWN: Yes, it is.
WATTS: Coming up next, the politician with a checkered past is in trouble again. This just makes my blood boil, I cannot stand this story, but I am
going to tell it, because it might save a kid. This time it involves a 14- year-old girl and we will give you the details of this representative allegedly luring this girl for sex, right after this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: "Girls like you can get me in trouble." That is what this 30-year-old New Hampshire politician allegedly told a 14-
year-old girl after a chance encounter. Now, he has been arrested for trying to lure her to a secluded beach for a sexual rendezvous. Police say
a subsequent search of his home yielded pot brownies, hallucinogenic mushrooms and other drugs.
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WATTS: Such a disturbing story. I am Rolonda Watts sitting in for Dr. Drew tonight. And, Representative Kyle Tasker is his name. He allegedly
sent a 14-year-old girl a friend request after meeting her at a breakfast. And, police say that he then sent her some graphic images, even a video
depicting oral sex. 14 years old!
We are back with Leeann, AnneElise, Sara, Karamo, and Spirit. And, this guy has actually rejected resigning. He refuses to resign. He is a
representative in New Hampshire and he is -- well, listen. You are innocent until proven guilty, but he says, "I am not resigning." Is that
appropriate?
TWEEDEN: No, of course not! I mean, first of all, I know the guy allegedly had done all of this, but in my book he is guilty, if that was my
child, and I do have a little girl now, he would be castrated by now. But, OK, arrest him, put him through court, make sure he is registered as a sex
offender, but castrate that man.
WATTS: That is right.
TWEEDEN: Because what is he doing? First of all, he is -- what are the people of his district doing? This is his third term. Nobody knows this
guy is a drug dealer and likes underage girls?
[21:50:00] BROWN: Yes.
GOETZ: Thank you.
TWEEDEN: I mean what is going on in that town?
WATTS: They said that he had all these drugs -- the police say that he had all these drugs ready to sell, packaged. He had some cookies. He had some
hallucinogenic mushrooms, apparently. I mean, you know, and then luring this little girl, allegedly, to a beach, just for sex. Go on, AnneElise.
GOETZ: I mean the drug distribution is seriously just icing on the case for the prosecutors, right? Well, I look at this and it is all about, he
is targeting children, allegedly targeting children.
WATTS: Yes.
GOETZ: And, he makes the comment, it is girls like you that get guys like me in trouble. That -- this guy is a jackass, first of all. Statements
like that --
WATTS: Either that or a soothsayer because he predicted his own future right there.
GOETZ: And, do not tell me this is the first time this happened.
TWEEDEN: Thank you.
GOETZ : Do not tell me this is the first time this happened.
AZARI: Of course not. And --
WATTS: We do not know that, though. We do not know that.
AZARI: OK, Rolonda, a guy like him, this big of a creep, this is not the only girl -- I mean, it is not like he is going to start and stop with one
isolated innocent, one girl.
WATTS: Well, they do not do that. Pedophiles -- if he is a pedophile, they do not stop with one. You are caught with the one you get caught
with, but there are hundreds, sometimes --
AZARI: And, I think we would be extremely lucky in this case if the complaint is limited to what he has been charged with, because they took
his computers. They took his devices. They are going to go through that with a fine toothed comb.
WATTS: You got to believe it.
AZARI: And, they are going to find more girls, and they are going to find child pornography. They are going to find victims of child molestation
that he has actually had sex with.
WATTS: Because that is the truth. A pedophile, and this is reported, that it is not just one. Like, they get caught for that one, but there are so
many others.
TWEEDEN: "To Catch a Predator," when they are in the house and they bring booze and got condoms and he sits down and he is like, "Oh, my God, it is
the first time I have ever done this." And, then they go through and find the rap sheet and the guy --
WATTS: I got to hear from Spirit in Atlanta. Spirit, what do you say about this? Mother of six.
SPIRIT: And, as a therapist, who has worked with convicted sex offenders and also as a facilitator for child abuse prevention and sexual abuse
prevention with the darkness to light campaign, I will tell you that you guys are absolutely right on the money with this.
When he says, "Girls like you get guys like me in trouble," that is the strongest indicator that this is not the first time. Had they not caught
him, this would not be the last time. And those drugs were not just for sale.
I would be willing to bet that he uses those in his encounters with these children. Kudos to the parents for checking in. Kudos for the child for
having the open relationship to communicate with her parents.
WATTS: We got to go, but some people called the mother who found out about this a hero, some say she is accountable for a lot of this. We got to talk
about that right after this. Wrapping it up, right after this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE REPORTER: This 30-year-old New Hampshire politician is behind bars tonight. Police say he sent a 14-year-old girl an x-rated
video and other adult images, then tried to lure her to a secluded beach for a sexual encounter. He faces prison and life on the sex offender
registry.
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WATTS: And, let me tell you something else that may disturb you even more. Kyle Tasker actually serve on a committee, where he was to protect children
and families. A lot of these -- well, he is an alleged pedophile, but a lot of pedophiles do find themselves leading boy scout troops, working with
children. You have to be so careful.
He has rejected calls for his resignation as a state representative, but he has been removed from that committee. He is also in jail on $250,000 cash
bail. And, police say that they got wind of this when the girl`s mom called police and said that her daughter was being sexually harassed by
some creep on Facebook and his name happened to be Tasker, a state representative. Is the mom a hero or is the mom accountable?
AZARI: You know what, Spirit, I love you, but kudos to the parents. The mom woke up after two months and found out what is going on with the
Facebook of her daughter. I mean, come on, this mom should have nipped it in the bud. She should have been on that Facebook. She should have had
the password. She should have monitored the friend requests, monitored --
BROWN: No, I have to disagree with you. Because as a parent, it is very hard -- parents, we try our best. We do our best every single day to try
to keep up with your kid `s social media, keep up with what they are doing at school, keep up with their friends they are hanging out with. It gets
very hard. So, we cannot blame this mother. When she found out, she did her job. And, the main focus should be --
AZARI: Two months. Two months.
BROWN: Two months, she could have save -- Her daughter could have been potentially been raped and killed. So, we are lucky that the mom did
something and stepped up. And, the focus should, actually, be if you ask me on the mental health of this little girl, who is going to be severely
damaged for the rest of her life, because this man has taken away a piece of her innocence.
WATTS: That is right.
BROWN: And, when we talk about her mental state, how she is going to relate to other men? How she is going to relate to boys in her school, her
teachers? That is the sad part of the situation. I do not want to focus on a mom, who did what she needed to do and got her help. It is about this
little girl and about getting this man in jail.
WATTS: I would hate -- I am not a parent, but I would hate to have to be accountable for every single thing my kid did.
BROWN: Yes.
WATTS: But, I am telling you -- parents, you all better get up in that cyberspace and learn those passwords and get in there and check them out.
GOETZ: But, here is the thing. Here is the thing. Not only did I think she got ahead of the game, went to the cops, but it says something about
the kind of relationship that she has created with her daughter, that her daughter came to her.
TWEEDEN: Right.
GOETZ: And, said, this is what is going on. Because when you are 14, you do not always have that relationship with your mom. And, this -- I say,
kudos to this mom, because she has created an excellent communication with her daughter.
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AZARI: And, I am not saying she is a bad mom, OK? But, when you -- in this day and age, with social media, you have got to get ahead of it. You
got to have the password.
WATTS: You got to get ahead of it. And, with all the information we have in this show today, you have enough to think about and do something about
to make your life better. Thanks to Dr. Drew so much for letting me sit in his chair tonight. He will be back, Monday. Good night, everybody.
Thanks for watching.
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