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Fifth Anniversary Show For Dr. Drew; Charlie Sheen, Tan Mom And Honey Boo Boo Interviews That Went Viral; 76-Year-Old Cougar Who Prefers Lovers In Their Twenties; Twitching Teens And Breast-Milk Baby Doll; Dr. Drew`s Live Audience; Casey Anthony, George Zimmerman And Jodi Arias Trial. Aired 7-8p ET
Aired April 04, 2016 - 19:00 ET
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[19:00:15] DR. DREW PINSKY, HLN HOST OF "DR. DREW" SHOW: Welcome. This is our fifth anniversary show for HLN.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING AND CHEERING)
And, we brought you, surprisingly, more than 1,000 shows. I cannot believe it. And, we have assembled today in our studio some of our favorite
guests. They are here with us to celebrate. But, first, I want to show you a little taste of what we have been through over the last five years.
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PINSKY: It is Monday, April 4, 2011 and welcome to the very first Dr. Drew show.
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PINSKY: I am a physician, an MD. And, I will have an opinion. I will express it. You can expect that.
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PINSKY: Mark, how do you get in the psych ward without a psychiatric problem? Damn it!
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PINSKY: That is a kind of a death that is not brain death.
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PINSKY: Let us stop it. Stop it. Let us stop with the cold medicine. Let us stop with, "I am just wild." Let us talk about what is real here.
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PINSKY: Can an atomic wedgie kill?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: It is a probable care and now you got to thank her.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE SPEAKER: Come on, Dr. Drew. Harder, stronger, Dr. Drew!
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PINSKY: Is it difficult to be on T.V.? She is sleeping.
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PINSKY: Welcome, welcome. This is the new Dr. Drew. And, this is our very first show.
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We have a new studio audience, live studio audience. This is very exciting.
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PINSKY: Where?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: He fell from a --
PINSKY: Where was the injury?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: Hold on a second. We are not in a courtroom.
PINSKY: Well, tell me. I need the anatomy.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: He fell from --
PINSKY: What is the anatomy?
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ZOEY TUR, TRANSGENDER REPORTER: You cut that out now or you will go home in an ambulance.
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PINSKY: What about making an agreement here? You do not use stupid. You do not say douche bag.
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR OF "AC 360" SHOW: I did not know you can say douche bag here.
(LAUGHING)
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PINSKY: Angry grandpa was a little upset there over the verdict. And, I want to say --
CHARLES MARVIN "CHARLIE" GREEN JR., KNOWN AS ANGRY GRANDPA: You (EXPLETIVE WORD) of it.
PINSKY: Please calm down.
CHARLIE, ANGRY GRANDPA: (EXPLETIVE WORD) you! Calm down! Dr. Drew, what is your (EXPLETIVE WORD) problem?
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PINSKY: Oh, how I have missed angry grandpa. Joining me, Sam Schacher, Rolonda Watts, Anahita Sedaghatfar and Mike Catherwood. Mike, do you have
any sense of who the first guest was on this show back on that April of 2011?
MICHAEL CATHERWOOD, DR. DREW`S CO-HOST ON "LOVE LINE": Who is the first guest?
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PINSKY: Yes. You know --
CATHERWOOD: Tan mom.
PINSKY: You were the first guest.
CATHERWOOD: Was I, really?
PINSKY: Yes. You were just fresh --
CATHERWOOD: What a letdown.
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PINSKY: -- fresh off of -- you were the new heartthrob fresh off "Dancing With The Stars." And, strangely, you and I were talking about something
that we are still talking about --
CATHERWOOD: Squirting?
PINSKY: What?
CATHERWOOD: Squirting?
PINSKY: Oh my God.
CATHERWOOD: But, we are still talking about it.
PINSKY: It was a high profile celebrity whose bizarre behavior was really in the headlines.
CATHERWOOD: Charlie Sheen?
PINSKY: Yes. Take a look.
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CHARLIE SHEEN, ACTOR: Now, that I have your lazy (EXPLETIVE WORD) attention, world. Sit back and rejoice.
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SHEEN: Its soul is inhabited by the ghost of betty and now it will murder people and it will eat trolls with its razor fangs.
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SHEEN: I am on a drug. It is called Charlie Sheen.
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SHEEN: Every -- Body -- Wins!
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PINSKY: A lot going on there. HIV, bipolar, substance.
CATHERWOOD: Honestly, it hurts my heart to watch that. As a guy who used to do a lot of cocaine --
PINSKY: Yes.
CATHERWOOD: -- my heart is actually missing beats, just watching him --
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PINSKY: Right. Did you remember all of it back then? Can you imagine, it has been four years now. It is all coming clear. He is HIV. He is --
SAMANTHA SCHACHER, HOST OF "POP TRIGGER" ON HULU.COM: Yes, because in the beginning everybody celebrated it, right? People were like wearing shirts
says like "Winning" and "Tiger Blood." It was like a pop culture phenomenon when he is sick.
PINSKY: He was manic as hell there. Why are you smiling like that?
CATHERWOOD: It is true. It is kind of like, if you wait long enough, the reality kind of comes to fruition.
PINSKY: There it is.
CATHERWOOD: You know.
PINSKY: All right, now, in 2012, a housewife generated quite a bit of press when she, amongst other things was accused of having taken her six-
year-old into a tanning booth or a salon. But, that was not what really got everyone`s attention. It was her skin that really caught the
headlines. Take a look.
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PINSKY: This is you back when everyone was calling you tan mom.
PATRICIA KRENTCIL, KNOWN AS TAN MOM: I am shocked.
PINSKY: What goes through your mind now when you look at those pictures.
KRENTCIL: I definitely was dark, but oh my God. Wow!
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KRENTCIL: I do have to emphasize that those certain pictures were tainted -- I got to call you back.
PINSKY: Yes, you got to call her back, my dear. We got it in television. Sorry to interrupt the phone call.
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DONNA, CALLER FROM PENNSYLVANIA: Hi, Dr. Drew. I am appalled. She looks like she is on some type of narcotic or something.
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KRENTCIL: I would like to tell this woman -- and forgive me, you need to like be quiet because that really ticks me off.
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KRENTCIL: Again, I go to bed at 8:39. I have five kids. I do not drink.
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PINSKY: Tan mom has continued to, what, entertain and bring joy to the Howard Stern audience. And, she sent me an update video, which I have not
really seen yet, just a message. Let us take a look.
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[19:05:00] KRENTCIL: Hi, Dr. Drew. It is Patricia, AKA Tan Mom. Anyways, I just want to say congratulations. I think you are one of the
best people out there. You cared about me and a lot of people just disregard that.
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PINSKY: I actually appreciate that. That makes me a little bit, believe it or not, emotional. Because I have been -- Rolonda has sort of
championing her because she is a product of two major traumatic brain injuries. And, so, a lot of this stuff -- now, there is some substances
maybe involved too, but it is really brain injury.
ROLONDA WATTS, HOST OF "ROLONDA ON DEMAND" PODCAST: But, you know something, that is what your show has always done, Dr. Drew. You have
taken the major headlines. You have taken the public opinion and you have made us a bit more compassionate based upon brains, the way we think, the
way we work, the way we operate.
SCHACHER: Grab your brain.
WATTS: Grab your brain.
PINSKY: Grab your brain at least once during the show. But, be that as it may, I appreciate it. This is why I brought Mike here. He is not going to
let you get away with that maudlin stuff. He is going to bring you back to reality.
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All right, Anahita, I got one for you. This is from 2012. It is an interview with the at that time 7-year-old -- we found her on toddlers and
tiaras. You may know her as Honey Boo Boo. Here is why my interview went viral with her.
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PINSKY: Let me ask you some questions, Honey. Is it difficult to be on T.V.? -- She is sleeping.
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PINSKY: Not a normal behavior for a 7-year-old by the way.
ANAHITA SEDAGHATFAR, DEFENSE LAWYER: Was that narcolepsy or were you just boring her?
PINSKY: No.
SEDAGHATFAR: What is the explanation for that, Dr. Drew?
PINSKY: That was her saying very clearly I was too boring.
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SEDAGHATFAR: Yes, you are. I can kind of relate to her, Dr. Drew
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: Thank you. Thank you.
CATHERWOOD: Why is she her Honey Boo Boo expert?
SEDAGHATFAR: Why do you think?
PINSKY: So, what, you want to say something?
CATHERWOOD: No, no. I just -- I have often --
PINSKY: Yes.
CATHERWOOD: -- you know, been this close to falling asleep while you talk to me, but I never have --
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PINSKY: See, Rolonda, that is why I brought him in there. Thank you, Mike, just keeping it real. Now, I asked Mama June, the mom, about the
show`s impact on the family. Take a look at here.
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MAMA JUNE SHANNON, HONEY BOO BOO`S MOM: But, now, the show is about the whole family, not just about me --
PINSKY: I see. I see.
MAMA JUNE: -- not just about Alana.
PINSKY: Got it.
MAMA JUNE: It is about the whole family as a whole.
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PINSKY: Think about it could have hurt you. I mean I think about every reality family I have seen like John and Kate. Their relationships start
to fall apart.
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MAMA JUNE: This is not going to last for 20 or 30 years, period. Nothing lasts forever.
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PINSKY: Now, of course, they cancelled the show. And, some allegations surfaced regarding Mama June and an alleged child molester. And, Rolonda,
there was even more. Remember, we were talking to the other daughter?
WATTS: Yes. There were some allegations and very strong allegations about some sexual abuse in there as well.
PINSKY: Yes.
CATHERWOOD: That is not a stable household? Come on.
PINSKY: But, you know what. I tell you what. One thing I always appreciate about what Mama June was saying there. You did see the whole
interview, but she said, "Look, I am putting money aside for the kids. This should get them a college fund going. I know this is a short lived
thing."
CATHERWOOD: Yes.
PINSKY: I think, inevitably, where people get way too caught up in reality T.V.
CATHERWOOD: She ate that fund.
PINSKY: What do you thinking, Sam?
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WATTS: The worst thing you can do is believe your own PR.
PINSKY: What are you thinking?
SCHACHER: I was hooked on the fact that they had a pig in a crib. Stuff like I would still hooked on, but --
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PINSKY: So, back to the animals for Sam.
SCHACHER: Yes.
PINSKY: It is all good. All right we have got a lot more to show you guys. Of course, we got to get into the trials. We got to get into
filling our audiences with certain like Trump followers and -- a lot of interesting stuff coming. We are back after this.
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ROBIN MEADE, HLN HOST OF "MORNING EXPRESS WITH ROBIN MEADE" SHOW: Dr. Drew, do you remember that one time when we did a special together to
introduce you to the HLN viewers and you sang opera? Well, Happy Anniversary. Happy Anniversary, Dr. Drew! Dr. Drew! Dr. Drew, ho, ho,
ho.
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DR. MEHMET OZ, HOST OF "THE DR. OZ SHOW": Hey, Drew. As one of your brethren, I appreciate how hard it is to do what you do. Congratulations
for five years of changing lives for the better, for your wonderful insights, your staging advice, for always being there for people in need.
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PINSKY: These internet bullies, what was it like to have them calling you names like that?
LIZZIE VELASQUEZ, RARE CONGENITAL DISEASE WHICH PREVENTS HER FROM GAINING WEIGHT: It felt like somebody was putting their hands through the computer
and physically punching me.
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ALANA THOMPSON, AKA HONEY BOO BOO, MAMA JUNE`S DAUGHTER: I am totally angry.
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PINSKY: You never know what would come out in the mouth of Honey Boo Boo and Mama June.
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PINSKY: The principal of your school calls you Honey Boo Boo?
MAMA JUNE: No, they call her Alana.
HONEY BOO BOO: Yes, they do.
MAMA JUNE: HBBC.
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PINSKY: Tan mom, two words that grabbed headline this is year and a face that shocked the country.
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KRENTCIL: Those certain pictures were tainted. This is what you thin. I do not care what you think. Do not think. Think about yourself.
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PINSKY: Nadya Suleman, also known as Octomom, in the last month, her house has been foreclosed. She has gotten a much younger new boyfriend and she
has entered the world of pornography.
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NADYA DENISE DOUD-SULEMAN, KNOWN AS OCTOMOM IN THE MEDIA: There is nothing I will not do to take care of my family.
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PINSKY: Welcome back to our fifth anniversary special. I cannot believe it. Now, in 2009, Nadya Suleman gave birth to octuplets, thus Octomom.
Three years later, there she is starring in an x-rated video to protect her family. Take a look at this.
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PINSKY: Your food bill is $1,000 a month?
SULEMAN: No. It is actually $3,000 or $4,000.
PINSKY: $3,000 or $4,000 a month.
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SULEMAN: There is nothing I will not do to take care of my family.
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PINSKY: So, you are alone with this. You are not with the male.
SULEMAN: No.
PINSKY: So, it is different than --
SULEMAN: Right.
PINSKY: All right -- than what people might think of as a pornography.
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SIMONE BIENNE, DR. DREW`S CO-HOST, "LOVELINE": I think you are a bigger, better woman than this, and I think you are being exploited.
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SULEMAN: I do not believe I was exploited. I believe I had full control and power over my choice. I take full accountability and I am proud of it.
I have always feared and ran away from my own sexuality.
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PINSKY: Is it stripping dance? Does it prostitution?
SULEMAN: No. No, listen.
PINSKY: Bank robbing?
SULEMAN: No.
PINSKY: How far do you go, Nadya? I am just saying.
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PINSKY: We tried to contact Nadya, but we have not yet heard back. I am joined by what is effectively our behavior bureau. Judy Ho, Cheryl Arutt,
Wendy Walsh, and Jena Kravitz. It is because of these women that we invented the term behavior bureau. Do you guys remember that?
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JUDY HO, PH.D., CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Yes.
[19:15:00] PINSKY: Yes. You were all around when we discuss -- How did we come up with that term, but we were all in windows then. I could not
see all your lovely faces. We are all just in these boxes together. And, now, it was back in the days of Jodi Arias, I think.
HO: Yes.
WENDY WALSH, PH.D., CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Oh yes. We are all obsessed with human behavior.
PINSKY: We are. We are interested in this thing. The interesting story - - I did not expect to talk about this, but you actually got stopped by a cop coming in to Jodi Arias one day? What happened?
HO: Yes.
PINSKY: What happened?
HO: I was running a little late and I got pulled over by a cop. And, they stopped me and said, "Why are you in such a rush." I said, "Listen, I am
very sorry, but I have to do a live show. It starts right at 6:00 pm and it is Dr. Drew." And, the guy stopped me and said, "Wait a minute. You
are on Dr. Drew? My wife and I watch Dr. Drew every night." He said, "Call him, I said hi. Please go ahead. Take care"
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PINSKY: Wait a minute. I thought he said --
HO: Thank you, Dr. Drew. Thank you.
PINSKY: Wait a minute. I thought he said, you are in a behavior bureau.
HO: He did say that. But, it was really about you. I mean really. Who am I? Whatever.
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PINSKY: All right. We are going to switch gears to another bizarre story. This is Lacey Wildd, the mom of six. Her goal became to be one of the
biggest breast models in the world. Take a look.
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PINSKY: You want to go from an L to an M, I understand. I do not know what that means even.
LACEY WILDD, HAS SIZE "L" BREASTS: Well it is letters to you but in the big breast community, it is a lot more than that. I am not done yet. I am
going to finish it and do it right. And, I am going to become one of the biggest in the world.
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PINSKY: How much will each of those weigh?
WILDD: I think they weigh like 20 pounds.
PINSKY: 20 pounds each?
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WILDD: I have problems sleeping and I have problems getting clothes and stuff, but I have been carrying big breasts for my entire life.
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PINSKY: If I put this on my chest and tried to lie down, I could not sleep. Really, just leaning back like this, I have trouble taking a deep
breath.
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PINSKY: That was our point, which is that this is sort of body dysmorphia. T his is a fetish thing. And, the actual weight would cause -- Mike, stop
it. The weight would cause a sleep apnea syndrome that could be actually damaging to her heart and her lungs. She is now upgraded to a Q.
Obviously has a huge impact on her. Current measurements 54, 24, 41. Wendy, body dysmophia?
WALSH: Yes, that is body dismorphic disorder.
PINSKY: Right.
WALSH: When she looks in the mirror, she actually does not see the watermelons that we see.
CHERYL ARUTT, PSY.D., CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Or her feet.
WALSH: Or her feet:
ARUTT: She cannot see her feet either.
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PINSKY: Now, Nathaniel was a man who loved his car. This is another interesting story. I mean he liked his car. Like liked it. The car`s
name was Chase. Take a look.
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NATHANIEL, SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO HIS CAR: There is many different positions that Chase likes. One being lying under him like there. That is
one of our more wild positions as I call it. Our favorite, though, is I lean over his driver`s side fender over his hood and kiss him along the
crease in his hood and rub up against his fender at the same time. Other things include sitting just inside of him making love like with the
steering wheel.
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NATHANIEL: Does that feel good? You are a handsome man. Mmm. Love you, baby.
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PINSKY: Jenna --
HO: Wow!
PINSKY: -- you are a neuropsychologist, and yet you sat there horrified at this one. Come on now. You know this some sort of --
JENA KRAVITZ, PSY.D., NEUROPSYCHOLOGIST: Listen. Different strokes for different folks, all right? I have made some really poor choices, but I
have never made out with my car.
HO: Hey, these people -- it is like a sexual orientation, though. This is objectophilia.
PINSKY: Yes.
WALSH: It is.
HO: And, they are really are attracted to these objects.
PINSKY: Yes.
HO: And, they really impose all kinds of human-like qualities on these objects. He is having a real relationship with the car. He is getting
something from it.
PINSKY: Judy. Judy --
WALSH: He is not riding the car.
ARUTT: I actually agree with everything Judy says, but I think this is taking hotrodding to a whole different level.
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HO: Hey, he is not bothering anybody else and the car is not reporting molestation.
PINSKY: This is not, Cheryl, which you call a reciprocal relationship.
WALSH: No.
ARUTT: He thinks it is.
PINSKY: It is built on fantasy.
WALSH: The question is, do we think that everybody needs to have one primary adult romantic relationship with a human?
PINSKY: Yes.
WALSH: Or can we be whole people --
PINSKY: No.
WALSH: -- and have relationships with different things?
PINSKY: The Eifel Tower?
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WALSH: Right.
PINSKY: Here is someone that fuelled some of our very most memorable moments. I will let you figure out who it is. It began with an audience
member trying to figure out how long President Obama has been in office. Just have a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: Obama has been --
ANDY DEAN, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER: We got to get a smarter audience here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: He has been in this country for almost, what is it? 16 years. Wait a minute. Four --
PINSKY: Eight years.
DEAN: Here we go.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: Eight years.
(LAUGHING)
SCHACHER: Welcome to the show, Anderson.
PINSKY: Hold on. We got to go to a break. We got to go to a break. -- Good.
COOPER: What the hell did I wander into?
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
PINSKY: I know. Well done. It is all good. We love each other here. Relax.
COOPER: Have people been drinking?
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PINSKY: So, again, one of the proudest moments of our five years was when Anderson Cooper asked us if everyone here was drunk, and he was wondering
what in fact what he had wandered into here. So, just to prove to Anderson that you guys have not been drinking, although you asked me to open the
champagne --
WALSH: Not yet.
PINSKY: As Anahita did. Right?
SEDAGHATFAR: You would not let me open it.
PINSKY: See. Anybody else been drinking here besides, Anahita? No. All right. We got -- Listen, you guys, thank you. You guys -- I have got to
tell you something, and is sort of personally, which is having you guys there to bounce ideas off of was really important for me. You have no
idea.
[19:20:10] And, I do not think, there is anything quite like that anywhere else in television where professionals get together find ways of looking at
stories that are out there that are commonly discussed but dissecting them in a way that is digestible for people but also clinically relevant and
accurate, so I thank you for all that.
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All right, we got a lot more to go. It is amazing we have been through in this last five years. Do not go away.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Dr. Drew Pinsky, has it been five years already? I think you are like merely 5-years-old. Congratulations. Happy
anniversary.
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HARVEY LEVIN, TMZ: Hey, Dr. Drew, it is Harvey Levin over TMZ. I wanted to congratulate you on five years of cranial examinations on headline news.
It is awesome. Congratulations to you and here is to five years more.
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[21:25:00] PINSKY: Tanyalee, you were married, though, to a six foot tall man.
TANYALEE DAVIS, BORN WITH DIASTROPHIC DWARFISM: I was.
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DAVIS: We actually met over the internet. I was actually a seven foot blond.
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HATTIE WIENER, 76-YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO PREFERS LOVERS IN THEIR TWENTIES: There are a lot of people who use the word "Cougar."
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PINSKY: This 76-year-old woman wants men in their 20s and loves sex on the first date.
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WIENER: Maybe I do not get an orgasm as quickly as I used to, but I get them.
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PINSKY: If the snake starts to tighten up around your child, do you have some mechanism or device that will stop the snake?
JAMIE GUARINO, FILMED BABY WITH PYTHON (via phone): No. There is no tools used to stop that.
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PINSKY: Pauline Potter weighs about 700 pounds give or take a few.
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PAULINE POTTER, 2012 GUINNESS RECORD HOLDER, ALMOST 700 POUNDS: I do not want to have to sit in the back seat of my own car, you know? I want to
get in the front seat and drive.
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SHEILLA SHEA, A MOTHER WHO KILLED HER OWN SON: And if somebody had told me, you know, Sheilla, you are going to go insane and you are going to kill
one of your kids, I would have told them they did not know what they were talking about.
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PINSKY: This is our five-year anniversary. We debuted five years ago today. And, man, we have covered territory as you see there. In our first
year, we looked at a medical mystery. This was a really interesting story we followed carefully. You guys will remember it. Twelve girls of the
same Upstate New York High School suffering spontaneous tics, twitches and then this happened.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: Uncontrollable twitches and ticks developed overnight and no one knows why.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JASON CARROLL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Lydia Parker.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
LYDIA PARKER, SUFFERS FROM UNEXPLAINED TICS AND TWITCHES: The last time I went to the neurologist, they said that they are not sure and that they
will keep looking into it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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PINSKY: Thera Sanchez and her mother, Melisa, Melisa Philips. We also have Lydia Parker. She is a friend of Thera and also suffers from this
condition as well. Thank you all for being here, first of all.
THERA SANCHEZ, SUFFERS FROM TICS AND TWITCHES: I am not good, not today. It has not been for a while. My tics got worse.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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DR. JOHN SHARP, PSYCHIATRIST, HARVARD MEDICAL SCHOOL: Biofeedback is good, EEG biofeedback.
PINSKY: OK.
SHARP: Physical therapy is good.
PINSKY: Oops. Thera is having a little bit of a reaction there. Thera, are you all right? Mom, what is going on there?
MELISA PHILIPS, THERA SANCHEZ`S MOTHER: She is not. She is having a seizure.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: So, as dramatic as that was, seizure disorder, Tourette`s, Lyme Disease, post-strep PANDAS, all ruled out, this was allegedly now
conversion disorder, which is what Dr. Sharp was summarizing right there in that studio at that time. Conversion disorder.
Sam and Mike are still with me. I am joined by Lisa Bloom and Loni Coombs. And, you guys -- Loni, back then we brought in Erin Brockovich. And, there
was this intrigue about what might have been going on. And, the neurologist there, locally, said, "Well, this is conversion. We ruled
everything else out. Still does not mean there were not some bad things happening.
LONI COOMBS, FORMER PROSECUTOR: Right. That is right. Then, what is so interesting about this show is you look at these potentially legal issues
but you also see this other side to it. And you open up the possibilities of how to handle these things, how to treat them, perhaps in the best way
possible rather than just reverting to, you know, just lawsuits and things like that.
PINSKY: And, you guys, Lisa, have been a critical piece of our legal squad here, you two. Mike, you are giving me the strangest look. What are you
thinking?
CATHERWOOD: What is that? Come on.
PINSKY: I am trying to read your mind.
CATHERWOOD: I am enjoying this nice anniversary show.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: OK. Good. I am afraid of --
CATHERWOOD: Not only beautiful but professional and intelligent ladies like this.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: That is right. That is exactly right.
CATHERWOOD: I am enjoying the moment.
LISA BLOOM, ATTORNEY: I do not think that is what was in his mind.
PINSKY: No. well, that is where the story is actually going as I am afraid if I went there, God knows where he would take us. So, I am just
saying. You, guys, have been --
COOMBS: Pull it back.
PINSKY: But, think how -- I mean we have just had stuff that I did not know anything about. Without you guys I would have been a fish out of
water. I really again appreciate you making it digestible for our audience.
Now, in October, Lamar Odom apparently overdosed on cocaine and prescription medication. He was still fighting for his life. And, Mike
had a reaction to it. Take a look at this.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CATHERWOOD: He is not putting a gun in his mouth and committing suicide but when you get to that level of addiction, I know it very well.
PINSKY: Is it hard for you to talk about that?
CATHERWOOD: Yes. It is really, really difficult. One thing I do know, as much as I know this guy, that he was suffering very badly.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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CATHERWOOD: The unfortunate aspect of the disease of addiction, it does not matter if you are a streetwalker, or if you are, you know, Robin
Williams or Lamar Odom, the pain is very similar. It is very universal.
PINSKY: Yes. Yes.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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SCHACHER: Thank god we have people like you, people like you who can educate the masses about how this really is a disease.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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PINSKY: It is just this incredible cycle that people get in.
SCHACHER: Painful. Can I give you a hug?
CATHERWOOD: Yes.
SCHACHER: Yes. It breaks my heart.
CATHERWOOD: Can you take your top off?
(LAUGHING)
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
PINSKY: Can we recreate that hug a little more -- you forgot that?
(LAUGHING)
SCHACHER: I remember saying, "Can I give you a hug." I do not remember the take your top off part. Now, I do. I do.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: Before we heard that one little last tape, I am going to as Lisa, now you feel that. See, Mike is a sensitive guy.
BLOOM: He is underneath it all.
PINSKY: Oh, yes. He is sensitive. And, of course, Lamar is now out and he has been seen out and about, although recently he was seen in a bar.
[21:30:00] CATHERWOOD: Yes. If you are going try to blend in, and you do not want people to know you are drinking again, do not be a seven-foot
black guy at an Irish bar.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: Yes. On Sunday morning or something, right, allegedly?
CATHERWOOD: Yes.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: All right. Now, our story was on a breast milk baby doll. It was controversial. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: Look at this video from the BreastMilkBaby.Com. Pretty much shows you all you need to know and whatever you do not get from this commercial.
Lisa is going to demonstrate in just a second.
BLOOM: I think breastfeeding is a wonderful thing. I breastfed my children. And, you know what? Little girls like to emulate what they see
their mother is doing.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BLOOM: So, you put the little bib on.
PINSKY: No, I did not say make a big deal --
BLOOM: No. You put the little bib on. You put the doll not to the little child`s breast and it makes a little suckling noise.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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PINSKY: Joanie in Nevada, you want to say something here?
JOANIE, NEVADA: I have 12 grandchildren.
PINSKY: Congratulations.
JOANIE: I am astonished. Is the next thing going to be pretend period? And, it is going to give you a calendar.
(LAUGHING)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: So, Lisa, obviously, an enthusiast and an apologist for this product, but Loni not so much.
COOMBS: No, no. I agree with the call or I just do not think there are little girl need to reenacting that thing so early on.
BLOOM: This is the natural function of the female body actually. And, you know, when it comes to the news I like to stay abreast.
(LAUGHING)
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: I did not hear a lecture on that one. There should have been an enthusiastically behind you.
BLOOM: No. Look, why not? I mean she sees her mom breastfeeding. She wants to do it.
PINSKY: A breastfeeding? Lisa, from the old south here.
CATHERWOOD: I do declare.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: We got to get out. We got, again, I have got to get to the trials. I have got to get, you know, more of our guests to join us here.
You are going to see all of our best and greatest hits after this.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ISHA SESAY, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR AND CORRESPONDENT: Congratulations, Dr. Drew, on notching up five glorious years with the show. Wishing you
many, many more.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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MARK EIGLARSH, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Drew, my brother, just wanted to co congratulate you and your spectacular staff for five amazing years on
HLN. It has been a lot of fun. Love you, man. Congrats.
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PINSKY: A live look at race in America. All of our panelists and audience members are black and free to express themselves.
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CRYSTAL WRIGHT, CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR: This is all about cops going out hunting down black kids. That is not true. These are isolated incidents.
PINSKY: All right.
WRIGHT: And, we can talk about it -- If we really want to get -- if you really --
PINSKY: Let me hear from the audience, right here.
WRIGHT: Come on!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE AUDIENCE MEMBER: This is a deep seeded hate. It is like the world has taken a nightmare pill.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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PINSKY: Our studio audience here by invitation is entirely transgender and I welcome all of you.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
UNIDENTIFIED TRANSGENDER WOMAN AUDIENCE MEMBER: I have lived 25 years like this. It is none of your business if I am walking down the street and you
want to know what I am or whatever.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
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PINSKY: We have invited an audience of Muslim Americans.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: When I tell people that I am a Muslim, they always immediately think, "Oh, she is a terrorist. Oh, she is
going to bomb us."
PINSKY: What do you do when somebody says that to you?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: I just tell them to be quiet.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: We have every single member in our audience tonight, a Trump supporter. I am not kidding. They are for real.
(AUDIENCE CHEERING AND APPLAUDING)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: I believe Donald Trump is going to make America great again.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: You know what? Girls, women, let us get our big girl panties on and let us deal with the issues, OK?
SCHACHER: Wow.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
PINSKY: That was the beginning of the Trump movement and we were sort of surprised with what we saw there. But we were there at the beginning and
it is grown and grown. So, we had a transgender audience, our all black audience, a Muslim audience, a pro-Trump audience.
And, they all brought heat directed at me and/or our guests. I am back with Rolonda, Judy, Areva Martin, who also joins us. And, of course, Mike
is still with us. Let us talk about the Trump show. I was Trump -- I was struck -- what is the matter, Areva?
AREVA MARTIN, ATTORNEY AND LEGAL ANALYST: Trump.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: Yes. Areva, you were already locked and loaded.
MARTIN: I was at the Trump show. And, Sam and I were sitting here holding onto our seats because it was quite a ride.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: But, if you remember, there was a lot of black and Mexican and diverse people in the audience. I was surprised about it. I actually
asked a supporter what Trump has tapped into. Take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: He has told the truth.
SCHACHER: He has not told the truth.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes, he has.
PINSKY: Hold on. Hold on.
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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: The media claimed, "Oh, people are not being murdered in the U.S." He started parading those families in
front of the media and they shut up.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: When people think about Trump Supporters, I am not sure they think about you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes.
PINSKY: What is he tapping into? Help me understand this. Just in a word or in a sentence.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: Truth.
PINSKY: Truth?
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
SCHACHER: That is not true.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: And, we are still about four or five months after we did that and I still do not understand. But, Areva, you took issues about one in
particular.
MARTIN: Yes. That audience, they were very enthusiastic.
PINSKY: Yes.
MARTIN: I do not think a lot of what they said was true, but as we see now, Trump is still the front runner for the GOP. So, they obviously
tapped into something that he has tapped into.
HO: I think they are tapped into emotion. I mean just like Areva, their fired up audience with that passion, and Trump knows how to get that
passion out of you. Even if he is a polarizing person, he gets the emotion out of you.
PINSKY: And, Rolonda knows Mr. Trump.
WATTS: Yes. I have covered him from the early `80s, all of his transitions. And, I am shocked he has gotten this far. I am little upset
with his divisiveness, but you know he has totally gotten us more interested in politics.
PINSKY: And, then transgender. That has been a hot topic these days. We put together transgender audience and things got very heated. One of the
panelists asked one of the people up here asked how she should -- she was really just curious how to refer to somebody who is transgender. Take a
look.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: When people constantly say it is way over my head, that is a big excuse. OK, we are all human being --
VANESSA BARNETT, SOCIAL COMMENTATOR: No. That is not what I meant --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: No, wait, wait. I am talking, miss.
BARNETT: Please continue. Please continue.
BARNETT: This is my choice. It is none of your business if I am walking down the street and you want to know what I am or whatever. And, it is not
my business to say --
[21:40:00] BARNETT: Exactly, and that is my point.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: "Do you wear a weave?"
BARNETT: That is my point.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: My whole point is it is none of our business. Let us just all treat people with respect.
BARNETT: And, then you have the next person saying open up to me and ask me questions. No, I do not think it is the same because I was born black
and you feel like you were born a certain way. I do not feel --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: Well, I do not feel like I know I was.
BARNETT: Exactly, that is your truth.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE STUDIO AUDIENCE MEMBER: No. It is not.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: Mike, that started to -- you were right there, right?
CATHERWOOD: I sure was.
PINSKY: That started to innocently. Poor Vanessa was like I really want to know how to address people because I get a little confused --
CATHERWOOD: Right.
PINSKY: -- and then boom.
CATHERWOOD: Yes. I mean I certainly -- but I definitely feel the transcommunity has been so radically oppressed for so long. Now, that they
have a voice to really speak in the mainstream that there is almost an overwhelming level of bitterness towards a world that has been wildly cruel
to them for so long.
PINSKY: It has been an interesting year. Areva.
MARTIN: We have a transgender pilot. She was a very interesting guest.
PINSKY: Jessica.
MARTIN: She is so professional.
PINSKY: She was just here last week.
MARTIN: Yes. She is a great representative of that community.
PINSKY: Absolutely. She was addressing what is going on down in the south with these new -- what are they --
WATTS: Not letting people in the bathroom. North Carolina, my state.
(LAUGHING)
PINSKY: Right. So, during the African-American show, this was really something where I was schooled, and I came way convinced. I do not know if
this tape is going to bring the way I experienced it. But, we talked in sort of unblanched detail about the use of the N-word. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DEMON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: If the president of the united states says the word, then I think as a journalist I should be able to say it as well.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SEGUN ODUOLOWU, JOURNALIST: As a journalist, it is appropriate to say the word if you are quoting it accurately.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WRIGHT: It is OK for black people to use the word. It is prolific in rap music.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BARNETT: But, I am not going to sit on the stage and lie. I have said it to friends and do not mean it in a negative way.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: Rolonda, at the end I was convinced, me, not OK.
WATTS: Not OK.
PINSKY: Not OK.
WATTS: No OK.
PINSKY: Not OK under any circumstances. It is just not OK.
WATTS: It is just not OK.
PINSKY: Whatever else is going on, I was schooled that, no.
WATTS: And, there are a lot of black people who are saying to black people. Do not say that to me. Do not call me that, as we used to do in
the most endearing of terms, but the stakes are too high. We do not have the luxury of that anymore.
PINSKY: And, before we had this conversation, I kind of thought it could be a term of endearment. I am convinced that it is not. It is too packed
with history and hate. And, it is got to go for the time being at least. Right, Areva?
MARTIN: I absolutely agree with you.
PINSKY: OK. We got a lot more. We got to get to the trials. We are getting to trials right away. Back after this.
(LAUGHING)
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
KEVIN TIMOTHY FRAZIER, CO-HOST OF "ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT": Drew, sorry we cannot be there. I am on vacation right now, but congratulations. And,
here is to you, right?
UNIDENTIFIED BOY SPEAKER: Yeah!
FRAZIER: That is a virgin. That is Shirley Temple. Come on now.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
EVY POMPOURAS, SECURITY AND INVESTIGATIVE ANALYST: Dr. Drew and to the Dr. Drew crew, you guys are the most amazing group of people I have ever worked
with. I want to say, happy fifth anniversary. I wish you all the best and many more. And, Dr. Drew, do me a favor. Change your passwords. We still
need to talk. Happy anniversary, guys. Love.
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[19:45:00] (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: Casey Anthony, Jody Arias and George Zimmerman, we could not look away. Prosecutors say Casey killed her own 2-
year-old because she was a party girl who did not want to be tied down.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CINDY ANTHONY, CASEY ANTHONY`S MOTHER: Someone just said that Caylee was dead this morning, that she drowned in the pool. That is the newest story
out there.
CASEY ANTHONY, ACCUSED OF KILLING HIS OWN DAUGHTER: Surprise, surprise.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: She might have ended up on death row, but the jury set her free.
Jody Arias was found guilty in the brutal revengeful slaughter of an ex- boyfriend. She spent 18 days on the stand trying to lie her way out of a lifetime in prison.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE LAWYER: And, they are not true?
JODI ARIAS, CONVICTED OF MURDERING HER EX-BOYFRIEND: It is all the same things, just different versions. Could not keep my lies straight.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE SPEAKER: George Zimmerman shot and killed African- American teen Trayvon Martin. His trial outraged America, which took side on the debate of a race and justice.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SHAHRAZAD ALI, SOCIAL COMMENTATOR: If white people in America think that this case is not about race of a person who looks white killing a black
person, then give me a case that is about race.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(END VIDEOTAPE)
PINSKY: Welcome back to our fifth anniversary show. Ms. Ali, best to you. Zimmerman got off but could not stay out of trouble. He now says he is
homeless, battling post-traumatic stress disorder and wears a bulletproof vest. Back with Lisa, Anahita, Areva and Loni. And, Areva, that was a
very intense time.
MARTIN: Yes. And, you know, after these intense trials what we see now is all of this interest by the public in these trials, "Making a Murderer."
The O.J. Simpson case that is on FX. So, there is this intense interest by all of Americans and what happens inside courtrooms. And, people are
learning now that it is not what it seems to be often on T.V., where the case have interests --
PINSKY: Right. The system as you guys all school me, Anahita.
SEDAGHATFAR: Yes.
PINSKY: As the defense attorney, everyone is entitled to a defense, even people that murder people.
SEDAGHATFAR: Right. Exactly. And, I am sure we are going to see a lot of that when we play the Jodi Arias clips. But, absolutely, I think this
televised trials really gave the public an insight as to what goes on in a courtroom. And, I think it has been a learning experience for a lot of
people.
PINSKY: Well, DL Hughley, he tackled with me -- he talked to me about how the Trayvon Martin killing affected him. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DL HUGHLEY, ACTOR AND COMEDIAN: I think all parents reasonably have some amount of fear for their children.
PINSKY: Of course.
HUGHLEY: But they generally fear something will happen to them, but not that somebody fears their children so much to the extent that they will
hurt them.
PINSKY: I got to stop, because again, a chill goes down my spine when you say that. So, you as a dad, when your sons go out, your fear is them,
because they are black, are going to scare somebody and then that person is going to hurt them merely because of the color of their skin.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
[19:50:00] PINSKY: That is how pathetic I am that, that was a new idea for me at that time, though. I think we have all gotten used to as
something that black young men deal with on a daily basis. .
I think we have come to understand that. So, that is how much we have all changed. I do not know about you, but I have been schooled because of all
these experiences we have all shared here on the show.
Let us get to Casey Anthony. Her trial had the defense using some crazy -- not crazy, interesting techniques. Her lawyers claimed that her father --
her own fathers had sexually abused her. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JOSE BAEZ, CASEY ANTHONY`S DEFENSE ATTORNEY: It all began when Casey was 8 years old and her father came into her room and began to touch her
inappropriately. This child at 8 years old learned to lie immediately.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: Jane, I want to go to you. What do you make of those accusations? Were you surprised?
JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, JOURNALIST AND AUTHOR: I have to say, Dr. Drew that I think that this defense could backfire in a big way.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: And, Lisa, it did not. It did in the public school public opinion -- in the court of public opinion but in the courtroom she got off.
BLOOM: Right. But most people think that she did kill her child and that she tried to drag her own family down with her. And, that is what so
reprehensible.
PINSKY: And, that was that. Loni, you are nodding your head.
COOMBS: Yes. Absolutely. It is interesting, the defense really took the focus off the dead child and put it on is she a victim, look at her family
and was upsetting to people saying, wait a minute, we have a dead child here. We need justice for this dead child.
PINSKY: We all ended up feeling pretty bad for her parents. But I still blame them a little bit. Casey Anthony had evidence of problems long
before all of this real trouble began and why they did not get her to help the mom or some nurse or get her some care.
Now, speaking of trouble, Jodi Arias, all right, here we go. She claimed she was mentally and physically abused by Travis Alexander. Here is what
she said on the stand.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ARIAS: He got angry and cross the room and he started shaking me and he said "(EXPLETIVE WORD) sick of you." And, he was spitting -- and some of
his spit got on my face. I mean he was not spitting on me, but as he was talking and my body slammed me on the floor and he called me a (EXPLETIVE
WORD) and kicked me in the ribs.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
PINSKY: Now, Jodi is serving a life sentence. She also said she is planning to kill herself. Anahita, there it is.
SEDAGHATFAR: She is not going to kill herself. And, I have to say, if we say O.J. Simpson was the trial of the century, this is the second trial of
the century, because everyone was captivated by this.
I could not go anywhere without people saying, "What do you think of Jodi Arias?" "What do you think of that case?" And, that was the first trial I
covered really on a daily basis.
PINSKY: I was at a Laker game and a player came up to me --
SEDAGHATFAR: Kobe. Kobe Bryant.
PINSKY: Shhhh.
SEDAGHATFAR: Sorry.
PINSKY: Whomever. It was one of the players. It was interesting.
(LAUGHING)
MARTIN: She exactly made herself one of the most hated people in America. I think people were just so outraged at her. She was such a diva. She
wanted makeup and hair and gel while she did these interviews. And, people are like, again, this poor man has been brutally murdered by you and all
you care about is whether you have the right color of lipstick when you do an interview.
BLOOM: And, all the lies she made up about him, you know, that then got out there into the public and I am sure it exactly what she intended -- she
too tried to bring somebody down with her.
PINSKY: So, audience, you feel the energy coming out of this team. This is the illegal team, much the way we had the behavior bureau, this is the
legal squad. These are the guys that bring it and really pull me out of the confusion, because I do not know anything about the legal system and it
looks disturbing to me.
BLOOM: But the trials are the best stories. I do not know why you cover anything else.
PINSKY: They are great stories.
(LAUGHING)
You did not want to here from Honey Boo Boo or any other of those great stories of all. Listen --
(CROSSTALK)
MARTIN: All of the stories have a legal twist.
PINSKY: They do, and I just want to tell you how much I appreciate you, guys and being part of the show over the last few years. I really do
appreciate your input and I hope you stay with us for another five years.
MARTIN: Yes!
BLOOM: Yes.
SEDAGHATFAR: Yes.
COOMBS: Yes!
PINSKY: We got to go, we will be right back with a little bit more.
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SPIRIT, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: Wow, so I hear Dr. Drew is having a five-year anniversary. Five years. May this be only the beginning, my friend.
Happy anniversary.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JOHN CARDILLO, FORMER NYPD OFFICER: Hey, Dr. Drew congratulations on five awesome years of your HLN television show. Thanks so much for letting me
be a part and here is to many, many more.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JENNY HUTT, RADIO HOST: Hey, Dr. Drew, congratulations on five years of the show. From you, I have learned a lot about whacky criminal, awful
human behavior and also maybe how to commit the perfect crime.
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SUSAN PINSKY, DR. DREW`S WIFE: Congratulations on your fifth anniversary. Love you.
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DOUGLAS PINSKY, DR. DREW`S SON: Hey, dad, congrats on five years at HLN. I know that we all as a family could not be prouder of you, so cheers to
your success and to a bright future.
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PAULINA PINSKY, DR. DREW`S DAUGHTER: Hi, dad. I cannot believe it has been five years. That is incredible. Congratulations. I am proud of you
and I am proud to be your kid.
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JORDAN PINSKY, DR. DREW`S SON: Hey, dad, congratulations on reaching your fifth year at HLN. We knew you could do it. I send my love from Colorado.
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PINSKY: That is incredible. Thank you for doing that. Thank you very much for doing that.
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SCHACHER: And, Dr. Drew --
PINSKY: Yes, Sam.
SCHACHER: Another very important person has a message for you, recorded earlier.
PINSKY: Uh-oh. Uh-oh.
SCHACHER: Yes. Take a look.
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HELENE STANTON, DR. DREW`S MOTHER: Hi, Drew. This is your mother. I just wanted to call and congratulate you on your five-year anniversary on HLN.
I think you are show is wonderful. I think because you are unique and because you offer multiple views on many subjects as they come up for the
day. Your father and I have always been very proud of your work.
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PINSKY: Very sweet. Very sweet. You guys are just trying to get -- listen, we could not have made it without all of you viewers, without the
audience and without you incredible contributors. I thank you so much, my staff, my production staff, in the control room, Dave and Jason, let us see
those guys. There you are. Thank you.
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Thank you to Rhoda, if you want to take a bow, for our cameras back here. And, finally, Jeff Zucker, the president of CNN, Albie Hecht (ph) the head
of HLN. Keith Brown, the Senior Vice President of programming here at HLN. Thank you to all of you. Burt Dubrow, happy birthday, our executive
producer. And, we will see you tomorrow for the beginning of our next five years. We will see you then. Nancy Grace is next.
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