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[21:00:21] ERIN BURNETT, CNN "OUT FRONT" HOST: Hop on. Next, special edition of "Out Front". The final countdown. New poll tonight showing a narrowing race between Trump and Clinton with three days to go. Plus, Donald Trump slamming Jay-Z for bad language as the Clinton campaign giving the rapper a free pass and Jeanne Moos on the funniest moments from this campaign.
Let's go "Out Front".
Good evening. I am Erin Burnett. Welcome back to special edition of "Out Front".
Final push, Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton with late-night rallies tonight, just really two days to go the way I count, because it's almost Sunday. Trump rallying supporters in Reno, Nevada. His third state today. He's not done. He will closing out the day with another rally. He still got another stop. This one in Colorado. He's turned out big crowds and taken swipes of Hillary Clinton today.
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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: On quick notice, we didn't bring any so-called stars along. We didn't need them. You know, the reason Hillary has to do that is nobody comes for her deal. She can't fill a room. We can get stars. We don't need them.
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BURNETT: Well, Clinton appearing moments ago with the big star singer Katy Perry filling a room in Philadelphia. The latest in a series of star-studded get out the vote concerts Clinton has been holding this weekend.
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HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You know, I'm very excited. There are just three days left in this most consequential election. Are you ready? Are you ready to vote on November 8th?
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BURNETT: All right, the polls show the race in a virtual dead heat. A Marist/McClatchy Poll Tonight showing Clinton with a one-point lead over Trump. That of course as well with an any margin of error. The lead overall in our Poll of Polls here at CNN, Clinton is now up by three. It was five last night. So we're now, as you can see, a three-point race. We have reporters across the country tonight with every state, almost every state that we could think of that mattered. We begin with Kyung Lah at the Trump rally in Nevada.
KYUNG LAH, CNN NATINOAL CORRESPONDENT: Erin, you'll have give me, as I try to listen here. What we're seeing here at the Trump rally is some sort of commotion. Donald Trump was speaking and he was then suddenly taken off stage. He stopped his message and what you are looking at as our camera is zooming in is something that has happened.
You can see that there's a bit of panic. There's also people trying to get pictures of whatever has happened there. I did not personally see what happened. What I could see is Donald Trump being rushed off the stage. He is fine.
Whatever is happening inside there, there is a number of security guards. It looks like local police, and it appears there are people on the ground. We did not hear anything. We did not hear anything unusual but we certainly heard that there was a loud sort of commotion. Either voices or you could hear a ripple through the crowd as everybody said something was happening.
The temperature in this room, you can feel that there is certainly a bit more anger in this crowd. Again, we don't really know what's happening but you can see the reaction of the crowd right now as they all try to also figure out what has happened.
We're trying to get some of our embedded reporters a little closer to whatever that is and hoping we are going to get a public announcement about what is happening. I can't tell you if there is anybody injured. It's a little difficult to see. Again, because I think whoever was involved in this commotion is on the ground.
Hold on one second. What is it? What is it? We're trying to get a little more information from one of our embeds. Come here. What? This is Noah Gray.
NOAH GRAY, CNN PRODUCER AT TRUMP RALLY: I couldn't quite see exactly what happened but I tried to go into the crowd just now and it appeared -- so I'm always down on the ground. Local law enforcement was holding. It looks like they're escorting someone out right now.
The crowd, it's unclear. But there was some sort of apparent threat for secret service to evacuate the candidate backstage. The crowd was not letting me film what was going on. I was pushed -- I wasn't able to see what happened. The crowd is chanting USA. I'll be getting back to you because we're going to be taken out.
LAH: And so from my vantage here. There is definitely moving whoever was involved in that commotion is being moved out of the crowd.
[21:05:05] We're not sure if Donald Trump is going to come back onto the stage or not. But -- OK. If you look back on the stage, someone is coming forward and it looks as if there might be some sort of announcement.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey. Nobody is going to stop this movement. Nobody. Your next president of the United States will be back in a couple of minutes, so hang tight. We love you Trump train. Let's go.
BURNETT: All right. That was stands to be the media director for Trump. All right, he's going to come back onstage. We're going to listen to that for a second but we do have the moment. I don't know what we're going to be able to see but we have the moment when something happened. Let's just replay that for you right now.
Again, you know, John, I know you've been at a lot of rallies. You know, you know, you see what just happened here. This was the secret service is coming and rushing Donald Trump. He obviously, it looks like did not see any kind of threat whatsoever.
JOHN AVLON, "THE DAILY BEAST" EDITOR-IN-CHIEF: Yeah. I mean this is obviously, this is breaking news, and the embed at the site is trying to decipher what occurred, but that's very telling -- you can see him appearing into the crowd and then the detail that's tasked to him onstage whisks him away. And, you know, the history of candidates being covered by secret service obviously goes back to 1968, the assassination of Bobby Kennedy, and we do -- we seemed to know if Donald Trump seems to be fine.
BURNETT: Yeah.
AVLON: We don't know what sort of threat occurred but there is a reason secret services tasked with candidates let alone nominees. This was a significant moment in the campaign, very scary.
BURNETT: A very scary moment. Jacky then this is just a couple of days before election day. We do -- we did see somebody taken out by local law enforcement of the room. I mean taken out, I, you know, removed from the room. We do understand Donald Trump is going to come back. So we'll say what he'll say in just a moment but very significant and also very significant that the crowd maintained its calm. There was a lot of, you know, hype going on Jackie ...
JACKIE KUCINICH, "THE BEAST" WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF: Right.
BURNETT: ... but the crowd maintained its calm.
KUCINICH: Which is significant because that always hasn't been the case ...
BURNETT: Right.
KUCINICH: ... and usually with protesters. And particularly, you know, in this campaign where emotions have been so high, and it has been -- it has been so heated in so many ways. So, you know, we'll have to wait and see what happened there. But, you know, in a crowd situation, it can always be worse if there's a distraction or something like that.
PATRICK HEALY, "NEW YORK TIMES" POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yeah. No, it's unsettling. I mean it's also a reminder that you know, these events, these rallies is going to be so staged then there's such a similarity of them over and over again. Then when something happens, it becomes, you know, unusual. It will be interesting to see what Mr. Trump says when he comes back. How he even sort of measure the reassuring he is or if he either tries to rift, maybe a little bit too much about the person. It will be interesting.
BURNETT: Well, I mean Paris, because there is. Now there is now -- now there is a lot on him for how he will handle this.
PARIS DENNARD, TRUMP NATIONAL DIVERSITY COALITION MEMBER: Right.
BURNETT: Because you heard Dan Scavino, his media director, social media director say he's going to be coming out in just a couple minutes. So we have been told he is going to come in. He's going to address this.
DENNARD: Look, I -- you know, I work for the White House of President Bush. You took a lot of heat about how he reacted after finding out the news about that September love the tax. In his reaction, he said he was trying to be presidential and keep calm and not alarm the children. This will be a test for Mr. Trump, see how he reacts and comes back and addresses the crowd.
BURNETT: All right. And Donald Trump is walking back out so let's see what happens here.
TRUMP: Thank you very much. Thank you. Nobody said it was going to be easy for us. But we will never be stopped, never ever be stopped.
I want to thank the secret service. These guys are fantastic. They don't get enough credit. They don't get enough credit. They are amazing people. So let's get back to repealing the defense sequester. Right now, it doesn't sound that exciting but it's very important because we're going to rebuild our badly depleted military. That means brand-new modeled aircraft, for a miracle air station, and you know what I am talking.
[21:10:06] Fallon? Who is Fallon? Any? Not far from here, the naval air station.
We have aircraft that's 18 and 20 years old. We have aircraft much older than that. We can't even buy parts to some of our aircraft. They're so old they don't make the parts anymore.
I am honored to have the endorsement of more than 200 top admirals and generals and 22 Medal of Honor recipients. Did you see those Medal of Honor recipients, when they saw that scene over there, they would have brushed off the secret service and they would have jumped in. They're incredible people, incredible. We have now many, many more coming also to endorse the whole campaign. It's been a beautiful campaign.
Hillary Clinton brought death -- I love you, too -- and disaster. And I want to thank all of these people, wow. You are amazing. Thank you fellows. I saw what you were doing. It's a tough group of people right here. Thank you. Thank you it's really great, I saw that. That was pretty amazing. Nobody messes with our people, right? Nobody.
She brought death and disaster to Iraq and Syria and Libya, and she empowered Iran and she unleashed ISIS across the world. She created a vacuum and ISIS was formed. Now she is saying she is going to get rid of it. She has no chance of getting rid of ISIS. We are going to get that -- we get rid of it fast. When we go in to do something, we don't announce it four months before we do it like Mosul. We don't announce it. We're going into Mosul to get the leaders who leave about two minutes after they hear that first announcement.
Now, we're going to do things right, folks. Hillary and our failed establishment has spend $6 trillion are ...
BURNETT: All right. Donald Trump is speaking in Reno, Nevada. He is just speaking and his speech was interrupted and you saw he was rushed off the stage by secret service. There was a threat. Someone has been removed from the room. We don't know who. We don't know the motive. We don't know what they -- we don't know anything except for what happened at that moment. Let me play that again.
This comes out but you see right before secret service came out, Donald Trump put his hand over his eyes looking out as if perhaps he did see some sort of a disturbance. Noah Gray is our embedded reporter with the Trump campaign. He was in the room. Noah, what more are you learning about what exactly happened? Who was responsible? What do you know?
GRAY: This is unconfirmed but what a local law enforcement official shouted on the ground. Someone shouted out that there was a report of a man with a gun in the crowd. Again, this is not confirmed we will the service to get more information on this. But the traveling set for was taken back stage.
Once Trump was taken backstage by secret service we were slowly escorted out to go back to the motorcade, as if we were leaving. At that time I saw a white male in his 30s or 40s being detained by the Reno local SWAT team, and he is being held at some point in this venue here where presumably he's being investigated by secret service and local law enforcement.
Again, these are unconfirmed reports at this time but according to local law enforcement telling people on the crowd. There was a report of a man with a gun in the front. He was currently being investigated at some location at the venue right now, and obviously not near Donald Trump. And Donald Trump has taken the stage again and Trump has reveal here.
BURNETT: All right. Noah, thank you. As you get more, let us know. Jamie Gangel, I mean what we're -- you know, you saw what happened here. Secret service took it very seriously. They do something unless they do see something. So there was concern. Unconfirmed reports but you heard Noah gray saying reports of a man with a gun and he says they're questioning now a white male in his 30s or 40s that they have detained.
JAMIE GANGEL, CNN SPECIAL CORRESPONDENT: Right. BURNETT: Un-clarified is the man but that that's what he has at that time.
GANGEL: And you can see as we watch the tape again, there was some kind of commotion that Donald Trump heard because he stops. He put his hand up to his head to try and look out past the lights.
[21:15:03] Look, the secret service, it's a high bar, as you said, John, for them to go out and do that. Someone got two shoes off on Former President George Bush and the secret service did not clear him from the room. So they clearly felt, we don't know what happened, but there was a threat. And the other thing you see is they say to him, I'm assuming, duck, because as they're running him off the stage, you see him go down.
BURNETT: Work it down.
AVLON: And they covered his body. They tried to shield his body with theirs, which is what they are trained to do, and get him back stage as soon as possible. And then in that clip you see what presumably as an agent -- a secret service agent jumping into the well, jumping into the crowd, presumably to subdue what the suspect is.
BURNETT: And what do you make, Angela, of his response? Donald Trump, you know, you heard what Noah said. The press core was brought out as if they were going to the motorcade and this was over. He was going to be done.
ANGELA RYE, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTER: Right.
BURNETT: Donald Trump has some several rallies already today. He's going to Colorado after this. He took a minute-and-a-half or two minutes. How ever long we we're out of here and he is back onstage, back on his rally speech.
RYE: I actually thought it was a great impromptu moment for him. He said nobody said it was going to be easy for us, and he went right back into his speech, not all of it on prompter there. He also unfortunately right after started talking about the sequestration process making it clear he's not all the way up to speed on what exactly that is. Of course there's military spending that got hit and the suspending. And Republicans has held that, has that process, has instances that budget deal, but I will give the him credit as being he absolutely responded to the way he should, as this someone running for commander in chief, I think he acted appropriately. He didn't scared. He didn't seemed shook and got ready to get back ...
BURNETT: Now, you got to say, he didn't seem scared.
HEALY: No, he didn't seem scared.
BURNETT: He did what he was supposed to do and came back out and didn't miss a beat.
HEALY: And he also got not to be cute about it, but he got a good piece of video that is going to be in terms of his response, it's going to be shown, you know, going into tomorrow ...
BURNETT: Yeah.
HEALY: ... going into the eve of at this. I was just texting with Kellyanne Conway, Trump's campaign manager who ...
BURNETT: You're just texting her now?
HEALY: ... reiterated -- just texting with her now. She reiterated Noah Gray's reporting that there may have been a gun. They don't know what it was. There's someone saying excuse me. Someone saying gun but they don't know yet, but that would -- true to this to what John was saying. I mean the level of coverage by the secret service, you know, on the Republican nominee.
But I just think in terms of the comment that Mr. Trump made, you know, not only just saying, you know, no one said this was going to be easy, but also we are never going to be stopped. You know, we are never going to be stopped. I mean it goes to the sort of the movement idea that he has tried to put forward that there is, that there all these people who were against us, you know, the Trump supporters. Never trying to keep us down and he is the guy who's going to come back out and stand strong and defend him. It's a powerful optic.
BURNETT: And Paris, I will say, you know, while the video was up and you heard him come back, I saw your face and maybe there was a little trepidation there of what's he going to do, is he going to go back to the speech?
DENNARD: Yeah.
BURNETT: Is he going to completely freelance? And he responded to it and then he went right back on ...
DENNARD: Right.
BURNETT: ... to what he plans to say.
DENNARD: Right.
BURNETT: That's something that seemed to make you feel very good and very calm. He didn't lose his cool.
DENNARD: Right.
BURNETT: And he didn't use this as an opportunity to say, I'm going to go off a prompter.
DENNARD: So the narrative out there about Mr. Trump is that he's -- doesn't have the temperament to be president. That he doesn't know how to be a commander-in-chief. In this moment and in many presidential moments they are untested, you don't know what's going to happen and you have to react and a lot is about judgment. His judgment was spot on tonight. He responded appropriately and he went back to his speech. He did not waiver off of and that was the important thing to do. And the last thing I would say is this, there's an old gospel song that's about James Steven. It says I don't feel no ways tired. I've come too far from where I started from. Nobody told me the road would be easy, I don't believe he brought me this far to leave me. That' almost exactly what Donald Trump said today. So I don't know if he's been listening to these black churches, or this thing or but I am telling you ...
ALVON: You are going too far.
DENNARD: I am just saying it's a good moment and it's going to resonate with those black African-Americans who understand.
RYE: And way too far.
DENNARD: No, I'm serious. There's nothing -- and that was a good moment for him.
HEALY: That's another room Paris but it is striking that he didn't come out like he did during the primaries and say, get that guy out of here. Can you believe that? Oh you know, it's a plan. Back in the good old days we would have -- and that was ...
BURNETT: And I just want to know Patrick why you're just over in this. This is the video of the man, the perpetrator here being escorted as we replay it. You'll see it. So I just want to know what they're looking a here as we're playing this. I'm sorry. Go ahead in that point.
HEALY: No I just -- I think you're just seeing sort of a level of a frank a sort of message discipline in knowing in how to react in a moment as opposed to the -- sort of the going half caulked which, you know, he used to do and still sometimes does. But that can become the story instead it's with this ...
BURNETT: And you know, John, what's interesting here is it was Trump handling it that way, as Patrick points out but also his crowd.
[21:20:04] ALVON: Yeah.
BURNETT: You know, he was criticized and rightly so, you know, encouraging people on the crowds pick on the protesters to encouraging violence. Not only did that not happen here, everyone in the crowd, they started chanting USA. There was no one sort of as that person was being taken down by secret service and taken out. There was no one who seen to at least from we see tried to cease that moment.
ALVON: That's right. That certainly seems to be the case. And there has been a history at earlier rallies where both the candidate and the crowd might not have behaved that way. But we're seeing a more disciplined crowd. I think rising to a moment that is deeply unsettling, you know, where the secret service takes you off and there appears to be enough credible threat for the secret service to take action. And for that immediate crowd up front to not try to take the law into their own hands but to clear the way, and to keep their cool within that context. That's a testament to everybody involved. That's the best in the political process which we haven't seen enough here. KUCINICH: And this is just a reminder of how dangerous this undertaking can be for these both presidential contenders. They're putting themselves out there in crowds, every single day, and it's just this -- and, you know, also a reminder of how much the secret service puts themselves out there.
ALVON: Absolutely.
BURNETT: And so and that ...
KUCINICH: When you see ...
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KUCINICH: It really is amazing what they do. Yes.
BURNETT: They're putting themselves in front of somebody as everybody knows they are trained to do but it's one thing to be trained then it's another to imagine actually doing that putting your own life at risk. Jamie but you can see you have some sort of a SWAT force, your local law enforcement, all taking this man out of this.
We understand he has not been detained for question but we don't know who he was. We don't know his motive. We know really nothing about him at this point. Other than that, he has been detained and is being questioned as I say actually in the same facility where Donald Trump is right now.
GANGEL: The other thing I would just mention is there are a lot of threats out there. And one of our concerns throughout this campaign has frankly been I mean, we're all thrilled nothing happen there and it was all handled very well and he handled it very well when he came back, but let's go back to the past year and how he has riled up the crowds, how he said thing about reporters, how he said things about Hillary Clinton. There were a lot of threats in this presidential campaign.
DENNARD: But we should remember, we should never question the sacrifice that both of these candidates make. Mr. Trump is a father, he's a husband, he's a grandfather. This is a tremendous sacrifice for him and for Secretary Clinton. And so, when you see moments like this when somebody might have had a gun or tried to threatened their lives, we have to pause and say these are great Americans doing a good thing for the country, and that one of them will be president of the United States in a few days, and we should appreciate the sacrifices they are making and that their families are making to serve the country.
RYE: I will just -- I agree with you, absolutely. I also think when you take a step back and realize how divided we have been because of the differences in policies, because of the differences in presentation. Frankly the many ways in which Donald Trump has riled me up this year, and upset me, upset people that I care about. Upset my pierce. This is one of those moments you never want to see.
And I think it's very important, as we go into the last stretch of the election knowing that it is supposed to be the moment where we're rising high that we remember at our core, at our very basis at the foundation of who we are. We are still human beings and we have to remember to respect each other at the most common basic level.
BURNETT: All right, eloquently said from a Trump and a Clinton supporter here.
All right, thanks to all for staying with me. We're going to take a brief break. We'll be back. We're going to be -- it is talking to Brianna Keilar who's up at Katy Perry concert now. And more on our breaking news of course of Donald Trump as we lean more about exactly what happened there in Reno. We'll be right back.
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[21:27:34] BURNETT: Breaking news, moments ago Donald Trump rushed off the stage by secret service during a rally in Reno, Nevada. He returned moments later. Finished his speech as you can see exactly what happened.
Here's what we know now. A suspect is in custody. We don't know what the motive is. We are getting more information on this really every moment. And as we get more definitive we will bring it to you in just a few moments. In the meantime Hillary Clinton just wrapped up in Philadelphia. Katy Perry followed her on stage up performing. Brianna Keilar is there. And Brianna, this was a very big night for Hillary Clinton appearing with Katy Perry. All out effort to get turn out among millennials.
BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, that's exactly right. And we saw that today when she had a conference call with Bernie Sanders and her millennial volunteer. She needs those young people, that was a key part of President Obama's coalition back in 2012 and in 2008. But she needs to do better with them.
But also here in Philadelphia, what we saw was a lot of suburban moms. They were bringing very young voter, I would say many who were too young to vote. There were of course some millennials here. But this is so important for Hillary Clinton id she tries to shore up support in Philadelphia. That's key to her support in Pennsylvania and that is key to her pathway to the White House.
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KEILAR: Hillary Clinton campaigning in Florida today.
CLINTON: It's a big state. I have a lot of ground to cover.
KEILAR: The fourth time she's been in the state this week, thanking the crowd for braving the rain to see her.
CLINTON: My friends, you are hearty bunch and out here in the rain. I don't think I need to tell you all of the wrong things about Donald Trump, but here's what I want you to remember. I want to be the president for everybody, everybody who agrees with me, people that don't agree with me, and people who do not vote for me. KEILAR: Recent polls put Florida at a statistical tie and with 29 electoral votes at stake, Clinton's campaign cease the sunshine state as one way to block Donald Trump's path to the white house and they're encouraged by high Hispanic voter turnout among those voting early.
CLINTON: Everyday in this campaign is exciting and being here with all of you. The last Saturday before election day really get me geared up. We are seeing tremendous momentum, large numbers of people turning out, breaking records.
KEILAR: Clinton and her long ventured surrogates are standing out across battle ground states in these final hours before election day.
[21:30:07] TIM KAINE, (D) VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm Tim Kaine.
KEILAR: Her running mate, Tim Kaine also campaigning in Florida and Vice President Joe Biden in his home state of Pennsylvania slamming Donald Trump.
JOE BIDEN, U.S. VICE PRESIDENT: A guy who wants to be president getting up at 3:30 in the morning and tweeting vitriol. No, I mean it tweeting vitriol about a woman's body, and her weight and calling women pigs. I mean imagine -- I get the back of my father's hand quicker than -- no, I'm really. No, I really mean it. You do, you know what I'm talking. Can you imagine at your dinner table your father or mother allowing you to speak that way.
KEILAR: Clinton is also tapping star power. The campaign is out with the new add in toss up states featuring Katy Perry.
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KEILAR: And of course Katy Perry performing here in Philadelphia for Hillary Clinton tonight. But Erin, if you look at where Hillary Clinton is going here the next couple of days, it gives you a sense of what she's prioritizing. She's going to be back in Ohio campaigning with Lebron James tomorrow night and then making this mad dash through battle ground states on Monday, her last chance to encourage people to vote.
She'll be in Michigan. She'll also be back here in Philadelphia and she'll be Raleigh, North Carolina. She is concerned about the African-American vote, another key part of President Obama's coalition that has not come around to her and obviously supporting her much more than Donald Trump but not as much as they did for President Obama in the past two elections.
BURNETT: Brianna Keilar, thank you so much in Philadelphia tonight. I want to go to Jeremy Diamond now on our breaking story. Donald Trump rushed off the stage by secret service. And Jeremy Diamond was at that Trump rally when this moment happened. And I know Jeremy, you were able to get video even so. We're going to play that as you describe for me exactly what you were able to tell us what you saw.
JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN POLITICS REPORTER: Yes. So, essentially Donald Trump was rushed off the stage very suddenly in the middle of his speech. He was -- then we saw some commotion at the forward -- the front of the stage. Suddenly a lot of the crowd started surging backward away from the stage and toward the press stand. And that's when you saw people with some frightened looks on their faces. It was really unclear what exactly happened.
I was able to get over the press barricade and into the crowd to film what exactly happened and that's where I found a man detained on the floor. He was lying face-down surrounded by a dozen police officers and secret service agents as well. As additional unit of SWAT team, police officers from Reno, Nevada here who were carrying assault rifles as well.
That man was on the ground for a period of time in a period that police were perhaps patting him down, searching him, as be standard practice when somebody is detained. That man was then brought to a separate room where we believe that he was in the bathroom of a separate room there where we believe that he may have been interrogated by secret service and local police.
But certainly a frightening incident and a lot frightened, but Donald Trump reemerged several minutes after he was detained saying that, you know, thanking the secret service saying that they did a fantastic job and thing that he is not going to be or certainly his movement not going to be taken down that easily.
Now, it's still unclear exactly what happened. What this man was doing. Some of the supporters who I spoke to in the immediate aftermath said that there was a man who appeared to be a protester, perhaps raising a sign, and it's unclear exactly what happened at this moment. We are still waiting on more information and details from the secret service and the Trump campaign, but that's where it stands right now.
BURNETT: And you know, John, what I think very interesting here at the moment it happened nobody knew, and we still don't know who it was and what their motive was. What sort of weapon, if any ...
ALVON: Yeah.
BURNETT: ... this person may have had. But obviously at that moment, they thought that it could have been a gun or something like that. Even if they had turned out that there was nothing like that even there. That's what Donald Trump and the secret service agents tell him that stage could have thought.
ALVON: Absolutely. And at that moment when the secret service took Donald Trump off stage, that is a moment where they -- are their training kicks in, they thought a credible threat -- it was credible enough that they needed to take action, unusual action to remove him from danger.
But as we said form the beginning. This is breaking news, this is thug of war. We do not have details. We do not know what sort of threat if any, whether there was a gun. We're getting those initial reports. But what we do know is that whatever was occurring in the crowd was serious enough for secret service to take action. BURNETT: And Patrick, I think what's interesting here is you're starting to see, you know, Jeremy Diamond had a video other reporters and embedded has little snippets of video of what was happening from all these different angles. And right there you could see the man being restrained.
[21:35:04] HEALY: Right. And it's important to remember that we may see video where we hear people, civilians say things about what they think that they are seeing, you know, scared, you know, instant, you know, adrenaline reaction. But until the secret service and law enforcement comes up and confirms any details, these are unconfirmed reactions. It's breaking news.
BURNETT: Right. Which is important to say, just because people might say, oh, he has a gun or something. It doesn't mean he did. It doesn't mean anything like that.
KUCINICH: Well, it's important for people to know if you haven't been in a political rally where there is secret service involved. You have to go through metal detectors. They do a sweep with the sweep of dogs before hand to make sure there's nothing in the -- before you let anyone in. Before something in the arena.
BURNETT: Right.
KUCINICH: Reporters if you are night of a pool, if you are part of part of a press contingent. You are swept. You go through metal detecters and they wand you. So this is a very usually secure environment. So if, in fact, this person was able to get a gun there, the big question will be how. Because you really do have to go through several layers of security no matter who you are to get into the venue.
BURNETT: Right. And if not, Jamie, obviously they -- that they thought that the threat was credible enough they thought it may have been. That's why they reacted the way that they did.
GANGEL: And what's very impressive whether this was just a protester and someone said something that got the crowd nervous or heard something. Look how quickly the police, the secret service, the SWAT team got in there. When you re-roll the tape and watch it, they are all over him. You see the secret service jump from the stage. You see the crowd go back. They really, kudos to them. They just handled whatever happened, whether it was just a protester or something more dangerous, they handled it very quickly, and obviously very professionally.
BURNETT: All right. Well, our breaking news coverage continues. We will be right back in a moment.
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[21:40:56] BURNETT: We are following the breaking news. Moments ago Tim Kaine's press bus in an accident near Saint Petersburg, Florida. The motorcade was heading to the airport, a car hit the bus. A witness describe seeing a highway patrol. SUV swerved just before the bus was hit. Details are sketchy, but we do not know of any injuries at this time. All right, we believe we'll be able to get some video in momentarily. As we get the information, we're going to bring that to you.
This comes, of course, with the other breaking news, Donald Trump rushed off the stage by secret service agents in Reno, Nevada just a few moments ago. We know officials detained Trump was in the middle of his speech, rushed off the stage by secret service. Several people at the rally say they saw a Trump supporter raise up a sign and a scuffle ensued.
Officials are now questioning that man. As we have seen throughout this presidential campaign. People have not only targeted the candidates but also their supporters. I'm joined again by Van Jones and Scotty Hughes. And Van, you know, we're in the final couple days here, and when you see things like this happening, it's scary and I thought Paris and Angela Rye though spoke very eloquently to the fact that they thought Donald Trump handle himself very well tonight. And they and -- you don't want ever want to see any things like this happening.
But the tone and tenure in this country has been so nasty ...
VAN JONES, HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTER: Yeah.
BURNETT: ... for the past well over a year, and you Van, did something really unusual. You went out there and you went into one- on-one after a Trump rally into the home, not just outside the rally, but into the home of a Trump supporter.
JONES: Yup.
BURNETT: And you obviously, as somebody that worked in Obama's White House and a Clinton supporter ...
JONES: Yeah.
BURNETT: ... and you had a one-on-one conversation as you described with, you know, pictures of their family around ...
JONES: Yeah, truly.
BURNETT: ... and let me play a little clip of what happened.
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JONES: What I'm trying to figure out is how did it get to the point where when you disagree with somebody you have to be their enemy. That's how you get to the civil war?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That just happened to me this past week, and one of my friends blast me on social media. How can a mother who professes to so love her children support Trump, who's said blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. How did my mothering come into play with who I am supporting for president? Like how dare you put me out there to be this evil individual. It broke my heart.
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BURNETT: S he was crying there.
JONES: Yeah, you know, and this is what's happening all across America right now, and people are losing friends. Somebody at defriended her on facebook who she loved and cared about. This is happening all across the country.
And hopefully tonight, you know, maybe we all get a little more sobered because of what we just saw. We call it the message -- we got a bunch of kids with video cameras. We went into the homes of Trump voter. We sat there and I got to tell you something, the courage it takes as if you're conservative to bring a liberal like me into your house with video cameras and speak from your heart has to be really honored. So it's on my facebook page. There's no corporate sponsors, just volunteers.
BURNETT: More than 1 million people have watched.
JONES: More than 1 million view so far. It's just -- and we have this relationship. You don't have to agree with somebody. In the Democracy you don't have to agree. Dictatorship, you have to agree. Democracy, the whole point is we don't have to agree, do, but you don't have to hate each other. We don't.
BURNETT: Right. But it is pretty stunning that you were able to have a moment like that because I think so much of what this campaign has become about is hitting the other side.
JONES: Yeah.
BURNETT: And when she said peopler questioning my mother skills.
JONES: It hurt her deeply.
BURNETT: But that is -- there is people saying that. I mean people are just I will. You know, if you're supporting Donald Trump as a woman, how can you do that? I mean we are seeing a lot of that Scottie.
SCOTTIE NELL HUGHES, DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTER: It's become extremely personal probably on both sides.
BURNETT: Yup.
HUGHES: Buy I think people want to talk. I've always said that we as a country need to have a conversation. As long as we're talking then we have solutions. It's always scares me when we go silent and when we are not interacting. And when they see on television, the super incantation just clawing each other's eyes out and fighting, no wonder why some of them might have a same reaction. They're just reflecting what they're seeing. They divide that we sometimes even have here on our panels. But the truth with is we've got to start healing as Americans. There's a lot of things that we have in common and so much has begin to start that foundation which is what his conversation did when you watched the video?
[21:45:03] BURNETT: Yeah.
HUGHES: And start that over, that conversation. It brings healing.
BURNETT: What then else it took for you a lot of courage and an open mind to go and want to hear and to want to listen to what somebody was saying who comes from the other side of where you sit.
JONES: But isn't that what we're supposed to be doing? The great thing about CNN is that I've got a chance to make friends with people who I don't agree with. You know, Jefrey Lord, we fight on the air but we care about each other. He ask me about my mom I ask him about his mom.
Listen, these are real differences. But you don't want the inflammation to be so great that the surging can't even figure out where to cut. I mean that there's ...
BURNETT: Yeah. That there's no humanity left.
JONES: That there's no humanity left. And so that the reason that we did this thing, we can deal wit hall the message through. It's on my facebook page. No place else. You got to go in my facebook page to see it. You see these videos and we're talking to people and we get deep and if it's tough, but you know what? At the end of it, that that respect is there because at the end of the day we are all Americans and we're all human beings.
HUGHES: And I think what's amazing, they have the conversation and neither side sacrifices where they stand. You see them merge, you get the both of them hold strong.
BURNETT: Right.
HUGHES: But in the end they still leave that ...
BURNETT: Right. But not everybody agreeing.
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HUGHES: That's not the point here.
BURNETT: That's not the point of what it's about.
JONES: Listen, empathy does not require agreement, it just requires understanding. If she says something that strikes me the wrong way, I can go right and just cut her off and say mean things or I can say why did you say that?
BURNETT: And I want now -- the other -- the breaking news tonight with Donald Trump at that rally, to go back to Kyung Lah quickly. Kung, you do have some more information for us on what exactly happened and the perpetrator.
LAH: Well, we want to go back and actually just talk about what we exactly saw. And then we went into the crowd and talked to people who were standing right there as this man or maybe a couple of different people who were tackled. We know that our -- on of our inbeds was able to capture some very good video of one man being taken into custody.
Well, I can tell you from the people I've spoken to. I've looked at their video. Some of their cell phone videos. There does not appear on video to be any sort of weapon. We want to remind everybody before you can enter an event like this, you have to go through a magnetometer. It would be difficult and try to smuggle one of those things in here.
So it appears right now that from the people we spoke to off the record, who were very close to the -- to this actual event, some of the witnesses who were there and showed me their video, no one actually saw a gun. They heard a lot of people in the crowd saying that there may be a gun, and then you can understand ho there is this ensuing panic to the crowd. But no one actually had eyes on a gun, that it may have been somebody carrying a piece of paper in his pocket.
So at this point we have nothing to confirm that this was someone who was armed. We want to remind everyone, again, you go through a magnetometer before you come in here Erin. It would be extremely difficult for something like this to happen.
BURNETT: And a quick word to you Van here, in a sense that it's good that there wasn't.
JONES: That's right.
BURNETT: It would have been horrible if there was. But in terms of the secret service response and Donald Trump's response, it's almost -- it's irrelevant whether there was a gun or not. The perception was ...
JONES: And I want people to be very clear.
BURNETT: Yes.
JONES: Nothing is perfect. You can have a magnetometer and do whatever you want. All it takes is one moment of inadvertence and something can happen. And so that's why we got to keep the temperature down. That's why we've got to start listening and talking again.
Americans can either turn to each other or on each other after Tuesday. And I tell you what, that could have been something negative given where we are. We got to bring the temperature down. That's the answer.
BURNETT: All right. Thanks to both. And up front next, Jeanne Moos on a much lighter note to go back and look at some of the funniest moments in this unpredictable year in politics.
This is a special edition of "Out Front". (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
[21:52:41] Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have been on the trail for more than 500 days, and there have been some laughs along the way. Here is Jeanne Moos.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: From the moment Donald Trump took an escalator to announce his candidacy. Campaign 2016 has escalated and he laughs from awkward air kissing to sniffing to coughing.
CLINTON: Every time I think about Trump I get allergic.
MOOS: The Donald is not allergic to kids. He actually signed one but threatened to reassign a crying baby.
TRUMP: Don't worry about that baby. I love babies.
MOOS: A minute later.
TRUMP: Actually, I was only kidding, you can get the baby out of here.
MOOS: And then there was mini Trump.
TRUMP: Do you want to go back to them or do you want to stay wit Donald Trump.
NATE: Trump.
MOOS: A crowd pleasing answer to realize many Trump parents, the last word he hears.
TRUMP: What is your name?
NATE: Nate.
MOOS: And then there was the child-like delight in balloons. Hill and Bill batted and kicked them.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It seemed like he had seen balloons for the first time in his life. Look at how delighted he is.
MOOS: The Donald seemed delighted with his own pronunciation.
TRUMP: Nevada. Nobody says it the other way. It has to be Nevada.
MOOS: Actually, Donald, wrong. This is right.
TRUMP: Nevada.
MOOS: At one rally ...
TRUMP: Hey, get this thing out of here, will you? MOOS: ... Trump attacked his teleprompter. He publicly humiliated ...
TRUMP: Like the stupid mic.
MOOS: ... his microphone.
TRUMP: Stupid mic keeps popping.
MOOS: Remember when Hillary barked into her mic?
HILLARY: Arf, arf, arf, arf.
MOOS: And then this happened at a Trump rally. This is something you should do -- what was that? Was that a dog?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hillary.
TRUMP: Uh-oh. It's Hillary.
MOOS: When it comes to the insect though, the Donald attracts mosquitos.
TRUMP: Oh, there was a mosquito. I don't want mosquitos around me.
MOOS: And Hillary appeals to flies.
CLINTON: Anyway he chooses.
MOOS: If only time would fly so we can get relief from the constant buzzing of the candidates.
TRUMP: I don't like mosquitos.
MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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BURNETT: You know, tough campaign, nice to know that there were some moments everybody laughed. Thanks so much for joining us. We'll be back Monday night at 7:00 Eastern for another edition about fun on election eve. CNN continues next.
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