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Erin Burnett Outfront
Sources: Pelosi Working Furiously to Flip Dems to "Yes" on Infrastructure; Top Progressive to Members: "Stick to the Plan"; Rep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) Discusses About the Certainty of Passing the Infrastructure Bill in the House; Vaccine Mandates Working; Vaccinations Up Among CA Hospital Workers, NY Nursing Home Workers, United Airlines; Poll: 34 Percent of Parents Will Get Kids Vaccinated "Right Away"; New Bodycam Video Reveals What Gabby Petito Told Police; Virginia GOP Governor Nominee Echoes Trump While Trying to Keep Distance. Aired 7-7:30p ET
Aired September 30, 2021 - 19:00 ET
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WOLF BLITZER, CNN HOST: Erin Burnett OUTFRONT starts right now.
ERIN BURNETT, CNN HOST: ... with a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill tonight as progressives in her own party revolt and threaten to vote it down. Is the vote in the President's agenda headed for failure?
Plus, a hospital dealing with violent COVID-related attacks is now giving each healthcare worker a panic button. How in the world did it come to this?
And more breaking news, new body cam video of an officer talking to Gabby Petito after Petito and her fiance, Brian Laundrie, were reportedly fighting in their van. A whole lot of what she said happened now on tape as the FBI tonight returns to the Laundrie family home. Let's go OUTFRONT.
And good evening. I'm Erin Burnett.
OUTFRONT tonight the breaking news, Nancy Pelosi's Hail Mary. The House Speaker said to be furiously working the phones, twisting arms, trying to whip up support for Biden's bipartisan infrastructure plan. A vote on that plan, according to Pelosi, is still on for tonight.
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REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA): As I said earlier, that's the path. That's the one we're on.
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BURNETT: Now, the big question is does she have the votes? Sources tell CNN Pelosi is changing some no votes to yes in these final hours, which is a testament to her power as Speaker. But it is still leaving Pelosi with a historic decision to make, pull the vote or bring it to the floor and likely watch it fail. Fail, if it does fail, it will be because members of the President's
own party voted against it, against the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill. Can't say it enough, a bipartisan infrastructure bill. Progressives have vowed to torpedo the bill because they still do not have a framework for their much bigger wish list currently at $3.5 trillion spending bill that would touch on everything. You can see it, maternity leave, climate crisis, community college, childcare, universal pre-K, those child tax credits, $556 billion cost just over a couple of years.
It is a bill that will remake the role of government in American life and the price tag is a no-go for moderates in the Senate and Sen. Joe Manchin today revealing publicly that the most he wants that bill to cost is $1.5 trillion. Now, that's $2 trillion dollars less than where progressives are right now.
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SEN. JOE MANCHIN (D-WV): I've never been a liberal in any way shape or form. I'm willing to come from zero to one-five.
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BURNETT: Okay. Progressives had originally had six-five, so they consider this whole three-five to be a huge compromise. Now he says one-five or take a hike and they are seething.
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REP. CORI BUSH (D-MO): This is absolutely absurd. It is unconscionable that he can stand puffed up and hold the line on something that hurts people now and to say that I'll toss you some crumbs right now and then hopefully you can say you ate. It's not good enough and I won't stand for it.
REP. PRAMILA JAYAPAL (D-WA): My number is 3.5, our numbers 3.5, if somebody has a different offer then they can put it on the table. You don't negotiate against yourself.
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BURNETT: So right there, of course, was the Progressive Caucus Chairwoman Pramila Jayapal clearly saying, well, 3.5 is the number and that she had not been informed of Manchin's $1.5 trillion number. But it's a little bit more complicated than that, because Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, he has known about Manchin's $1.5 trillion demand since July 28th.
In what's called 'agreement' first reported by Politico, Manchin states top line $1.5 trillion. It goes on to say Sen. Manchin does not guarantee that he will vote for the final reconciliation legislation if it exceeds the conditions outlined in this agreement. Now, you see the signatures, Joe Manchin III and Charles Schumer.
Now, Charles Schumer's office said today he never agreed to the conditions, but the letter, of course, is signed by him. It was signed by him and so obviously he knew Manchin would only support $1.5 trillion. And in fact, so did the progressive Democrats if they just listened.
I mean, maybe they weren't listening or maybe they just did not want to hear, but the reality of it is Manchin has come out and said this $1.5 trillion ceiling publicly. He said into our own Dana Bash on STATE OF THE UNION on September 12th.
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DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Then how do you know that it's not 3.5?
MANCHIN: And if that's going to be at 1.5, if it's going to be 1, 1.5, we don't know where it's going to be.
BASH: So you think ballpark 1, 1.5?
MANCHIN: It's not going to be at 3.5, I can assure you.
BASH: So, 1 - you just said 1.5. It sounds like $1.5 trillion is your number?
MANCHIN: I'm just saying that basically - well, I have looked at numbers. If we have a competitive tax code from a noncompetitive, it doesn't help the working person that was done in 2017, that's in the 1, 1.5 range, OK?
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BURNETT: One, one and a half. Looks, such that there's legislative crisis tonight, it is inflicted by Democrats on Democrats self- inflicted agony. And Manu Raju is OUTFRONT live on Capitol Hill. And Manu, look the question tonight is whether Pelosi will bring the vote to the floor.
It is incredible by the way to be in this situation where we don't know she's never brought a bill to the floor before that's failed and still here at 7:05 Eastern Time, it's an unknown what will happen. What do you think?
MANU RAJU, CNN CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It's unclear right now behind the scenes what is going on is an effort to try to get a deal between some of the key constituencies here, the White House, Democratic leaders, Joe Manchin, Kyrsten Sinema as well as to get some sign up from folks on the left, influential people on the left. People like Sen. Bernie Sanders, get them to agree to a potential framework of what that larger bill, that larger expansion in social safety net would look like dealing with health care, education, the climate change issue and what that overall price tag would be.
Now, they have been so far apart on this issue for weeks and weeks and weeks. It's hard to see how that could ultimately come together tonight. But the belief among the top Democrats who are trying to get this vote to the House tonight is that if they can get some sort of agreement on paper for these key members, perhaps that could be enough to assuage those progressives, the same ones referring to tank this infrastructure bill tonight, because they believe that this larger bill needs to go through first.
Now that is the key point here. The progressives have said that that larger bill, the social safety net expansion needs to pass Congress first before they will agree to vote yes on the infrastructure plan. So the question is will any of them change their mind because clearly, it is not going to pass first before tonight.
So at the moment, Nancy Pelosi is still moving aggressively behind the scenes to try to get her caucus in line, try to get some sort of agreement and then ultimately nothing is going to happen, Erin, before 9 pm tonight. That's when the House comes back into session. At that point, we will see if they can get a deal. If not, they'll have to punt it and raising more questions about whether this can get done.
BURNETT: All right. Manu, thank you. And so now let's go to the White House, Phil Mattingly is there. So what are they thinking? I mean, this is an incredible moment that President Biden, obviously, did not think would happen and here we are where if the President's own bipartisan bill fails, it will be because his own party voted it down.
PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Yes. Erin, the White House officials I've spoken to are keenly aware of the dynamics right now and the very high hurdle they're facing at this moment. And they make clear that no matter what happens tonight or tomorrow, the negotiations will continue, they just don't have the option of giving up at this point in time.
However, what we have seen and Manu alluded to it there is a very urgent, very real behind the scenes effort from President Biden's top policy and legislative affairs officials to try and get to some agreement on that framework. The President at Speaker Pelosi's request, once she made clear she was going to make a very real push today, the President dispatched his top policy team to Capitol Hill to try and see with Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer's top aides whether or not they could figure out some way to thread the needle here.
It's a level of urgency. These officials have always been involved in these talks, but it is very, very acute at this moment, particularly given how aware everybody is of the dynamics. There is some sense that if they can just put something together, some kind of framework, gets signed off by the right people that there is a way to unlock this and at least move it forward. It seems very long odds at this point in time based on people I'm talking to, but the effort is real, the urgency is real and it's clear that the White House understands what Pelosi is doing and understands they need to play a very important very integral role as she pushes forward tonight, Erin.
BURNETT: All right. Phil, thank you very much.
And now let's go to Democratic Congressman John Yarmuth. He is the chair of the House Budget Committee. His committee has already passed its initial version of the $3.5 trillion spending bill. So Chairman, I appreciate your time.
Moderate democratic congressman Josh Gottheimer just was on CNN moments ago and I know you've got a lot going on. You may not saw what he had to say. Okay. So I'll just tell you what he said was he's 1,000 percent certain that the bipartisan infrastructure bill will pass the House tonight, are you?
REP. JOHN YARMUTH (D-KY): Nope, I can't say that I agree with Josh. I think it's pretty much a long shot to pass it tonight. If it comes for a vote, I'll vote for it. I think it's a good piece of legislation and I take every piece of legislation individually and I will support it even though I'm a progressive and I'm strongly committed to making sure that the Build Back Better Act is enacted into law, so we'll see.
I have plenty of Kentucky bourbon around so I can fortify myself for the evening, but this deadline tonight and I know everybody wants to make this a dramatic threshold, but it really doesn't mean much. We have plenty of time to do both of these bills. We could pass them next week. We could pass them in November. We could pass them in December. We could pass them in January.
And I know the conventional wisdom is that the longer you go the more difficult it gets, but I think one of the things that we have made a mistake at is we've kind of lost the narrative focusing on dollar amounts instead of exactly what the initiatives in these programs would mean for the American people.
We need to do a better job of that.
BURNETT: All right. Well, and I hear you on that, first of all. Secondly, I think it's important just to emphasize here that you say you would be a yes, because you look at everything individually. Obviously, there's some in your caucus who - are categorical that they don't see it this way and I know that's why you're not sure it will pass.
But here's the thing, your committee did recently pass your own version, the $3.5 trillion spending plan.
BURNETT: I don't want to make it all about the numbers, but some in your caucus are. I mean, you heard the Chairman of the Caucus, Pramila Jayapal, saying well I said $3.5 trillion and that's what it is and I'm not going to negotiate against myself.
But Joe Manchin is making it clear, one to one and a half and that's it. Knowing that he's saying that, are you okay with that?
YARMUTH: Well, what I'm okay with is taking advantage of the opportunity we have to do something incredibly important for the American people and we're not going to have this opportunity very often. So the number itself is meaningless. I mean, I read Joe Manchin statement, I've listened to him, he has no understanding of how the federal government monetary system works when he when he compared it yesterday to his household income, that has no relevance to what we can do.
It's not a question of what we can afford. The federal government can afford anything that it feels it needs to do and right now that's what we ought to be focused on. So that's kind of the position I took in the budget committee, that's the position I will take going forward.
YARMUTH: The shame is that we have an opposition party, the Republican Party, who doesn't think the federal government has any obligation to do anything about providing childcare, early childhood education, paid family and medical leave, any of the things that are in the Build Back Better Act.
If they're not going to recognize that these are national responsibilities, then we have to act alone and it puts us in this very, very convoluted process called reconciliation that has basically opened itself up to all this brinkmanship.
BURNETT: So there's a couple other things I want to ask you. First, I want to ask you, Chuck Schumer, obviously, the Politico obtained the document that shows that on July 28th Sen. Schumer signed off on Sen. Manchin's parameters for a $1.5 trillion spending bill. It was signed by both of them.
Manchin signed it, Schumer signed it and it mentions things like need base testing means testing, for example, for the child tax credit. It lists no additional handouts or transfer payments and it does raise the ordinary income rate, corporate tax rate that puts up to 25. But I guess the question here that I have is that Schumer said he never agreed to the conditions, but his signature is there, okay, he did not read it and just sign it. How do you feel about this? This is July 28th.
YARMUTH: Well, first of all, I don't think Chuck Schumer can sign away policy for 49 other members of the Democratic caucus in the Senate. I suspect all he thought he was signing was acknowledging that this is what Joe Manchin's position was. But again, he can't bind the 95 percent of the Democrats in the Senate to that that position. And so to me, that's kind of one of these documents that is meaningless.
BURNETT: And just one final thing I got to ask you, you said the federal government can do whatever it wants to do. I mean, it can so long as people are willing to lend to the United States money at low rates. And, okay, you will be right that they have done that a lot longer than a lot of people thought that they would do. But it does raise the question, I mean, putting aside a taxation questions, you just can't get the taxes that you have in this bill, on your own number the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget looking at the Ways and Means Committee's numbers here on the $3.5 trillion dollar bill.
They say you're going to borrow 1.4 trillion. They also say that the real cost of the bills since things like the child tax credit are not going to go away in three years, they're going to become permanent, that's your goal, I know, would be five and a half trillion. So then that's $3.4 trillion that you're borrowing. That is a lot of money. Are you really comfortable with that?
YARMUTH: It is, it's $3.4 trillion over 10 years. We're going to spend twice as much during that time on defense. If you take the entire add up, all of the things we're proposing to do, it would be essentially about 5 percent more than we were will spend otherwise. We're going to spend $61 trillion over the next 10 years. So to add another $3.4 trillion or $5 trillion to it is very - I think it's pretty inconsequential when you consider all the benefits to the American people.
YARMUTH: And these are benefits that will last for decades.
BURNETT: Right. No, I hear you. It's an interesting conversation. I'd love to continue talking about it, because I hear what you're saying and I also hear there's a little three here and there's a little three there and pretty soon you're talking real money.
YARMUTH: Talk about real money.
BURNETT: Right. All right. Well, I appreciate your time. Chairman, thank you so much.
YARMUTH: You bet. My pleasure.
BURNETT: All right. And next from California to New York to private sector companies like United, undeniable evidence that vaccine mandates are working.
Plus, breaking news, new body cam video tonight of an officer talking to Gabby Petito during a traffic stop just weeks before she was reported missing.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We want to know the truth that he actually hit you. Where did he hit you? Don't worry just be honest.
GABBY PETITO: Well, he grabbed my face.
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BURNETT: And Trump has weighed in on Virginia's closely watched the governor's race, but the Republican candidate does not seem to be taking his advice.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is what it's all about.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But the former president says you need to embrace him more and embrace the MAGA movement more.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, he knows exactly where I stand.
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BURNETT: Tonight, vaccine mandates are working and causing a jump in vaccinations for healthcare workers and others. The New York Times reports that one California hospitals saw a 97 percent compliance rate with as many as 800 workers getting their shot due to a mandate.
New York State's governor saying 92 percent of the state's nursing home workers have received at least one shot, 92 percent.
That number was 71 percent just over a month ago, then came the mandate. And the only major U.S. airline with a mandate, United, says 99.5 percent of its employees have complied.
OUTFRONT now Dr. Scott Gottlieb, former FDA Commissioner and author of the new book Uncontrolled Spread: Why COVID-19 Crushed Us and How We Can Defeat the Next Pandemic.
So Dr. Gottlieb, I mean, sure some people have been fired for not complying, I understand that. But these numbers are - they're factual. These are the numbers. The mandates have increased the vaccinations. They just simply have. So do you think we should see more of them?
DR. SCOTT GOTTLIEB, FMR. FDA COMMISSIONER: Well, look, there's no question that they're working to increase the vaccination rates. First of all, we should just take a step back and look at what we've achieved, 78 percent of adults have had at least one dose of vaccine. Most of them will complete the series. That's a remarkable achievement for an adult vaccine that's been largely voluntary.
And that owes to the good work of the administration and if we were dealing with one of the old variants right now, the Wuhan variant or even B117, if we had 78 percent of the public vaccinated, that probably would be enough to provide a wall of immunity. The only reason we're trying to reach higher and we really need to retire from a public health standpoint is we're dealing with the Delta variant, which is a far more contagious variant.
Look, I think the federal government is well within their prerogative to mandate vaccination among the federal workforce. That's an issue of federal readiness. I think that we should be mandating vaccination among other groups like the elderly, I think we should try to work with Medicare programs to try to get Medicare providers and health plans to get higher vaccination rates in the older population. That's where we can make a real difference.
I think mandating vaccine among healthcare workers also makes a lot of sense, because it's a function of protecting the people that they're caring for. I think where this gets touchy is when you mandate vaccination for private businesses, down to the level of a hundred employees. That's where you're going to get resistance, you're going to get lawsuits and you're going to turn this into more of a political issue. And I think that there's public health consequences for that, that we need to weigh very carefully.
So you think employee number counts? I'm not asking you to have a hard and fast number, but you're basically saying kind of the mass employers, whether you be United or Target or Wal-Mart or the DOE in New York, you could do it but small business, no.
GOTTLIEB: I think that that's right. A lot of larger employers are going to fall within the federal mandate, because remember they've mandated not just the federal workforce but also people who contract with the federal government. So that's going to scope in a lot of businesses and I think they did that because they felt they had more authority to impose mandates on businesses through that, rather than going through the Labor Department regulations and mandating down to small businesses through that mechanism.
So I think that they're going to capture a lot of people that way. This is going to get more political when you start to impose it on smaller businesses. The bottom line is that the decision to get vaccinate as much as we talked about is an individual choice, it's also a collective choice because our decision to get vaccinated it protects our community. If we're not vaccinated, we can bring the virus into a work setting, into a school.
So there is a collective element to this. But to the extent that there is a collective element, I think the best place for the decision making is at the local level, leaving it to businesses, leaving it to local communities. Now, we know not everyone was making the decision to require vaccination, that's why the federal government stepped in. But if we could use incentives rather than mandates to try to get more businesses to implement mandates at a local level that could really help.
BURNETT: All right. To the numbers you need to get at, all-in, you're going to need more people vaccinated just more broadly, and those are people who currently can't get vaccinated, those are people 12 and under, okay. And a new poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation shows only about one-third of parents who have children aged five to 11 say they'll vaccinate their kid as soon as it's available, one-third. Fifty-six percent are wait and see or definitely won't. Okay.
The data show it's safe, but this is, again, even if it gets approval, it's going to be in EUA right at first. And generally we are talking about the lowest risk group, right? We are talking about children. So where do you fall on this, Dr. Gottlieb? Do you think it should be mandated for children as soon as it's approved or not?
GOTTLIEB: Look, vaccination among kids who are eligible right now is about 50 percent. So we're not seeing the uptake among kids. I think pediatricians are going to have to work hard with families to try to encourage them to get children vaccinated. We're not going to see childhood vaccinations mandated until these vaccines are fully approved and there's multiple vaccines in the market, so it might not be something that happens really until the sort of fall 2021, 2022 School season.
CDC is going to have to take this up, make a recommendation to put this in the childhood immunization schedule. Some states have to pass separate laws to enable that. I think eventually it ends up there, but I think this is a longer term plan. I think the thing that we could do most immediately in terms of trying to get more people vaccinated who are at high risk is require health care providers Medicare advantage plans and others to have to vaccinate their constituents, have to vaccinate the Medicare population.
GOTTLIEB: That could have a big effect on getting the most vulnerable people vaccinated at higher rates.
BURNETT: So our affiliate KTUU is reporting four people were arrested at a heated meeting over whether to enact a mask mandate in Anchorage, Alaska. Some people wore makeshift badges with a Star of David that said, "Do not comply on it." They were comparing mask wearing to actions taken during the Holocaust. Are you surprised at how this just continues to get uglier and uglier?
GOTTLIEB: I'm surprised at how divisive these things have become and that's why I worry about the mandates as well. We're literally going to have governors running for president potentially on a platform of opposing vaccination. And so if vaccines become another political issue that we divide ourselves on as a society, that's going to have impacts not just on the COVID vaccination rates, but vaccines across the board.
That's why I think we need to tread very carefully here and make sure that the incremental benefit that we're getting in terms of additional people vaccinate is going to have enough public health payoff that is worth the policies that we're enacting. Right now I think we'll get to 80 percent just based on our current policies and the good work of the administration, I don't think we're going to get above 85 percent and a lot of the people who remain unvaccinated probably had COVID, so they have some immunity.
So we really need to look at from a public health standpoint what the marginal gains are from the increments of people that were getting vaccinated for the policies that we're implementing. I'm not saying that they're bad policies, but they need to be judged very carefully against the longer term implications.
BURNETT: Right. So it isn't just punitive. All right. Thank you so much, Dr. Gottlieb. I appreciate your time.
GOTTLIEB: Thanks a lot.
BURNETT: All right. And next the breaking news, we do have new body cam video that has just come out of an officer speaking to Gabby Petito alone. It's a whole lot of long conversation. It provides a lot more insight into that reported fights that Petito had with her fiancee, Brian Laundrie.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he slap your face or what?
PETITO: Well, like he grabbed me like with his nail and I guess that's why it looks - definitely I was cut right here because I can feel it.
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BURNETT: Plus, panic buttons for doctors and nurses as violence against healthcare workers is getting worse since the start of the pandemic.
BURNETT: Breaking news, we have obtained new body camera footage that reveals more of what's Gabby Petito told Utah police during a traffic stop with her fiancee Brian Laundrie. It is a long conversation, there is a lot more information here tonight.
And it comes that the FBI visited the Laundrie family home again today, to collect items, to help in their search for Brian. Apparently, he has been missing for 16 days.
Leyla Santiago is OUTFRONT covering this as she has been every day.
So, Leyla, this body cam footage is quite significant, because it is quite extensive I understand.
LEYLA SANTIAGO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right, it is just under an hour, and this new body cam footage that we just obtained shows Gabby's conversation with another officer that does provide insight into what happened that day, because remember, up until now, we have only seen the body cam footage of one of 4 officers and involved that day.
And in this footage, we hear Gabby talk about how bickering earlier in the day led to the fight, the fight that led police to the couple.
SANTIAGO (voice-over): Tonight, as a search for Brian Laundrie extends into week 2, new body camera footage released from Moab, Utah police, from the August 12 traffic stop of Laundrie and Gabby Petito.
OFFICER: Did he hit you though? I mean, it's okay if you're saying you hit him. I understand if he hit you, but we want to know the truth if he actually hit you.
GABBY PETITO, YOUTUBER: I, I guess, yeah, but I hit him first. OFFICER: Where did he hit you? Don't, don't worry. Just be honest.
PETITO: He like grabbed my face, like, like I guess. He didn't like hit me in the face. He didn't like punch me in the face.
OFFICER: Did he slap your face or what?
PETITO: Well, he like grabbed me, like, with his nail, and I guess that's why it hurts. I definitely have a cut. Like, I can feel it.
SANTIAGO: FBI agents were seen visiting the Laundrie's home this day, and during the house with 2 bags leaving with one. Agents were also seen entering the driveway. The Laundrie's attorney telling CNN the FBI is at the Laundrie home today to collect some personal items belonging to Brian that will assist the canines in their search for Brian. There was nothing more to this.
The family attorney confirms Laundrie went on a camping trip with his family at Fort De Soto Park, 75 miles away, just days after returning home without Petito from his trip out west. We are also learning tonight that North Port police said to calls came in on September, 10th and 11th from Gabby Petito 's father in New York, who is trying to report her missing at the Laundrie family address in Florida.
On September 11th, North Port authorities went to the Laundrie home to speak with Brian and his family. They were, quote, essentially handed the information for their attorney, according to a spokesperson for the North Port police. For 3 days after Petito was reported missing, there was no information coming from the Laundrie family about Gabby or Brian, only a statement from the family attorney saying, quote, on behalf of the Laundrie family, it is our hope that the search for Miss Petito is successful, and that Miss Petito is reunited with her family.
Six days after Gabby was reported missing, the Laundries told police Brian was going missing, after saying he was headed to a nearby nature reserve three days prior. The mystery only deepening after new facts trickle out, with no clue yet as to Brian Laundrie's whereabouts.
SANTIAGO (on camera): Erin, in this body cam footage, we also see officers note that both Brian and Gabby both had scratches on them, because remember, you did hear Gabby say when officers asked if he had her, she said well yes he did, but I hit him first. In this footage, you hear the police officer called the witness back on his cell phone. He to calls the witness and asks if he saw Brian hit Gabby.
The witness says he never saw him punch her, but he saw him push, or shove her.
BURNETT: All right. Leyla, thank you very much. And for more on this new reporting I want to bring in our correspondent Jean Casarez who has been closely following all the developments in this horrific story.
So, Jean, look, this is very interesting, what Leyla is reporting, this conversation with Moab officers and Gabby Petito was nearly 15 minutes. There is different angles, a nearly 15 minute conversation.
This is a chance to see her, talk and how she was portraying this, and how she was responding. When you watch, it what do you take away?
JEAN CASAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, this is, as you said, brand new body cam. We have had one body cam for several weeks now, and it is an hour and 17 minutes long. I really watch that.
And in that body cam one of the 4 officers, we are not sure who was speaking to her, because it is his body cam, right, but the one that has appeared was talking to Brian and he said to him, you are the victim of domestic abuse. Here is what you can do, you can get a no contact order, and he goes into great detail about what he can do so that Gabby cannot contact him. He says, if there is a problem, you live in Florida, and finally Brian says, I do not want her to go to jail, I love her.
He said, well we are going to fine -- he said I do not want to cite her either. At the end, the officer goes up to Gabby and says I have a very important question to ask you. Did you intend to hurt Brian? Legally, that is important, that is an important question. She said no, I didn't, I never would.
So, that did not, but it was determined that there was a mental health crisis, and maybe for Gabby's welfare, it is better about it was determined that way, because she could have possibly landed in jail that night.
BURNETT: Well, I mean, I guess we will never know, who knows?
The FBI did return to the Laundrie home, today to collect items, to help in their search. Now on day 13 of the manhunt, still no trace of Brian that we are aware of. Yet, you have them searching the nature preserve, you have them looking for all this time. What's stands out to you about the FBI going back to the house to search again?
CASAREZ: This is according to the attorney for the Laundries, he said that they took some for the small effects for help them with send dogs, not to me is the headline from that because, dogs are routinely used in searches, you have several types of dogs, but to get something that had Brian's scent on it would be a search dog, ascent dog, that is trying to find Brian alive.
So, they have not discounted that Brian is alive. A cadaver dog is one that goes for the scent of the composition.
In cases that I have covered throughout the years, this evidence routinely comes into a courtroom. It is the forensic dog evidence. There is great explainers on all of the training these dogs get, it is highly important and investigations. So, I find it very interesting, maybe they are not focused on the Carlton Preserve anymore because there is a very few there, but they obviously want to search somewhere. Those dogs will be useful.
BURNETT: All right, thank you very much for explaining all of that. Next, the nation's most watched governor's race heats up, the Democratic candidate is doing everything he can to tie his opponent to Trump. But, the Republican is keeping his distance.
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GLENN YOUNGKIN (R), VIRGINIA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: I am a Virginia first candidate. I am on the ballot.
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BURNETT: And a hospital will be giving its staff planted bucket buttons, its attacks against health care workers are on the rise.
BURNETT: Tonight, the Trump tightrope. The Trump-backed candidate to be the next governor of Virginia is gaining momentum, as he walks a very fine line, echoing Trump on some, or trying to keep his distance. This is a new Fox News polls shows the 4 percentage points behind Terry McAuliffe. Keep in mind, that significant, because Trump lost Virginia by 10 points.
Jeff Zeleny is OUTFRONT.
YOUNGKIN: All right. Who is running for a new governor?
JEFF ZELENY, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL AFFAIRS COIRRESPONDENT (voice-over): Youngkin is auditioning to be a new face of the Republican Party.
YOUNGKIN: We are about to, absolutely, send a shock wave around the country.
ZELENY: That shockwave would be a victory this fall in Virginia, where the GOP has not won statewide, in a dozen years.
He's locked in a tight race for governor with Terry McAuliffe, who is hoping to keep the Democratic streak alive, by trying to paint his rival as a clone of Donald Trump.
TERRY MCAULIFFE (D), VIRGINIA GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE: He's a wannabe Donald Trump.
ZELENY: Youngkin is testing how big the Republican parties tent can be.
YOUNGKIN: Forever Trumpers, never Trumpers, single issue voters, and libertarians, and tea party folks. It's about bringing people together.
ZELENY: Yet, he rarely mentions the former president by name. A point that Trump has noticed.
DONALD TRUMP, FORMER PRESIDENT: The only guys that win are the guys that embrace the MAGA movement. Does that make sense?
ZELENY: But the former president says you need to embrace him more, and embrace the MAGA movement.
YOUNGKIN: Well, he knows where I stand.
ZELENY: You didn't say his name today.
YOUNGKIN: I am a Virginia first candidate. I am on the ballot. It's Glenn Youngkin, running in Virginia.
ZELENY: He makes clear, Republicans, here, must chart a new course.
YOUNGKIN: The Republican Party has figured out one thing over the last 12 years, and it is how to lose.
ZELENY: The former private equity executive is investing millions of his own money in the campaign. Introducing himself, there TV ads, as a former college basketball player, a father of 4, and an outsider.
YOUNGKIN: I'm Glenn Youngkin. I'm not a politician.
ZELENY: But his positions are coming under closer scrutiny, like his support for requiring vaccinations for measles, mumps, and rubella. But, opposing mandates for the COVID-19 vaccine.
YOUNGKIN: I do believe the COVID vaccine is one should everyone should get, but we shouldn't mandate it.
ZELENY: Is that the politics, or the science, that is different about COVID, in the other, shots that you do support mandates for?
YOUNGKIN: Yeah, nothing about politics here for me. Should be mandated for young children? I think we need to step back, and recognize, the best way to do this is to encourage everybody to get the vaccine.
ZELENY: And, his calls for election integrity which he, repeatedly, raised during his primary race, to solidify his standing with the far- right base. Despite saying, now, there is no evidence of fraud, as Trump, and many of his followers, insist.
You believe, all along, since election last year, that President Biden won?
YOUNGKIN: That's -- I have been quite clear, there is not extensive fraud in Virginia.
ZELENY: With early voting underway, Youngkin is hoping to capitalize on any dissatisfaction with President Biden, and the Democratic policies in Washington.
YOUNGKIN: Go vote. Who voted early already?
ZELENY: In a November contest, in which both candidates portrayed the other is extreme, in a race, offering an early glimpse into the nation's mood, going into the 2020 midterms.
YOUNGKIN: All eyes are on Virginia. America wants us to win. Why? They need hope.
ZELENY (on camera): Now, Youngkin does face a careful balancing act, trying to fire up the Trump base, without, also, uniting Democrats in opposition to Trump.
But, as for Terry McAuliffe, he is keeping his eye, closely, on the action, or inaction, on Capitol Hill. He believes that Democrats must prove they can govern, which they have not done, so in his view, so far, this year. This race is far tighter than Democrats hoped it would be, and that is what's giving them quite a bit of heartburn here, in Virginia.
BURNETT: Jeff, thank you so much. Fascinating.
And next, doctors, and nurses, a quick with panic button, says the number of COVID related -- listen to me here, attacks against health care workers. Gross.
And Monica Lewinsky, revealing a low point in our mental state, at the height of the Clinton scandal.
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MONICA LEWINSKY, FORMER WHITE HOUSE INTERN: I had asked the OIC lawyers about what happens if I die, you know?
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BURNETT: Tonight, panic buttons for health care workers. A hospital, in Missouri, getting panic buttons for 400 nurses, and doctors, and it comes as COVID related attacks against health care workers are on the rise, across the country. The hospital is Cox Medical, in Branson, Missouri. And it has seen assault against employees double, and, injuries, and assaults triple, and health care workers up 358 percent, all in one year. That's pretty stunning.
Lynne Yaggy is OUTFRONT. She is the vice president of clinical services, and chief nursing officer at the hospital.
So, Lynne, I really appreciate your time. Can you describe what you and your of coworkers are actually seeing in terms of these violent incidents?
LYNNE YAGGY, VP CLINICAL SERVICES & CHIEF NURSING OFFICER, COXHEALTH BRANSON: Sure, thanks for having me, Erin.
Health care violence, and nurses being put in situations that are harmful, is not new. And, we have seen that rise over decades. But what I am seeing different, is that nurses, now, making decisions about where they're going to, work based on their safety. And so, we are looking at whatever tools that we can find, to make sure that we can prevent harm to them, for their most valuable resource. All of their health care workers are. So what we've seen, over this year is peoples escalation, and frustrations.
We've implemented, like every other hospital in the country, restrictions on visiting. So, everyone has escalated. And, the frontline staff are the ones who take the brunt of that.
BURNETT: I mean, it's just awful. Some part of me, I understand what you are saying, but part of me, is deeply shocked by this. It's horrible. Horrible, what you are talking about.
And I know you have seen the violence against health care workers that have started to rise before the pandemic, and now the pandemic has made it much, much worse. And so, when we talk about violence, what sorts of things are you seeing? You have to have a panic button, and your talk about physical things here.
YAGGY: So, what we have done, implementing reporting systems, in the last 10 years and health care, and they are more robust. So, what we have to do is report things, it happened to you, that work. That way, we start having a record, and a baseline, for what is happening. That could range anywhere from verbal assault, to someone screaming, yelling, and cussing at you, threatening you. That could lead to slapping, punching, spitting, those things.
So, that is just the nature of health care work. Now, some patients don't have an intent of harming you, but I think that is the hardest transition for health care workers. They don't want to report someone who isn't intentionally trying to hurt them.
BURNETT: In Texas, Methodist health care system, the chief nursing executive there, your colleague there, said that your staff have been cursed at, scream, debt and even had knives pulled on them. It is escalating.
In your opinion, Lynne, how much of the politicization of COVID, how much of this was a part of it?
YAGGY: I am not sure, that I think it is the political piece of it, and more of the restrictions. When people are sick, coming into health care now, it is accelerated their anxiety is what I would say. I think they have been isolated for a while, they want to mediate care, and there are mental health issues related to the lack of resources, particularly, in rural America.
And so, our goal is the advice you can see it, it's our button here, I push that, so I can have an immediate response from a security team. So, we have many things in place for security.
You know, we have staff. We have de-escalation training, and all of those things. But, the quicker that I can get a response to that staff member, the better off they're going to be.
BURNETT: Wow. I'm so glad you're able to do it. I'm glad you're doing it. I am horrified, and so deeply sad that it's necessary.
Lynne, thank you so much for your time.
YAGGY: Thank you.
BURNETT: All right. And next, Monica Lewinsky, detailing the mental health struggle she endured during the Clinton scandal.
BURNETT: Monica Lewinsky says she thought about killing herself at the height of the Clinton scandal, and its aftermath. More than two decades have passed since her affair with the then president, it was a salacious story that dominated every news cycle at the, time and completely transformed her life. It led to Clinton's impeachment.
Lewinsky was relentlessly vilified, and now she is revealing more about her struggles with CNN's David Axelrod, specifically the incredible toll that it all took on her mental health.
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LEWINSKY: I just could not see a way out. And, I thought, maybe that was the solution. I had even asked, you know this is also an interesting point, I had asked OIC lawyers about what happens if I die? You know?
DAVID AXELROD, HOST: Oh my goodness.
LEWINSKY: Yeah, as more of an adult now, I think how is there not a protocol, like that is a point where you are supposed to bring a psychologist in? Or, how is that not a breaking point?
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BURNETT: Lewinsky has fought for years to reclaim the narrative, and not lead the scandal forever define her. She talks about that. You have to hear more from her, on David's podcast "The Axe Files".
And thanks for joining me.
Anderson starts now.